Evolution is a fact

Da fuq u talking about faggot? There's tons of transitional fossils. Never been to a museum?

Dont ask me, ask the famous evolutionary biologist in picrel retard. Undisputed transitional forms between major groups (reptiles to birds, fish to amphibians, apes to humans) are still absent asshole.

Daily reminder that no science has ever established the existence of a single transitional fossil. Evolutionists just eyeball what seems good to their theory and discard the rest, and will invent whatever insanity based on a skeleton (which will always have tons of missing information since no soft tissues) and sometimes on purely nothing.

Man originated from the region where the Mediterranean Sea is now, and modern Europeans are the direct continuation.

The region was a food basket that spurred human evolution and intelligence via low elevation atmospheric concentration. In the Mediterranean Sea, there ruins buried in mud that should not be there unless ancient societies were building underwater temples.

I don't know who is more retarded... evolutionary biologists or cosmologists. Ask one of them about abiogenesis, genetic entropy, consciousness, etc. To hell with all those losers.

Don't care, didn't ask, plus you're Black.

And I told you to shut up about evolution, but you dont listen

going with as /thread

Ask one of them about abiogenesis,

Kek, I've done that a lot, they often pretend it has "nothing to do with evolution" or that I made the term up. What baffles me (well I know it's for the jewish anti-Aryan wewuzniggers agenda but still) is how everyone is fine with not having an answer with why the universe exists, but somehow life MUST have a materialistic and meaningless reason. There is no one more unscientific than the one who can't simply say "I do not know" when he does not know. "Science is taking the best possible explanation!" No, science is empirical, it's picking the best credible, empirical explanation. Sometimes science doesn't have answers, and that's fine.

Metaphysics needs to be reunited with modern "science" for it to regain any bit of credibility.

And a really insightful point you made too. I have never come across a group of people more susceptible to confirmation bias than biologists and cosmologists. I remember confronting this literal faggot microbiology professor about intelligent design during my undergraduate studies ... mainly just to get a rise out of him. His reply was a quick "those people are just afraid of death." As if his own profession isn't a cope to "overcome" the fear everyone has of the unknown by overexplaining everything and at the same time reducing it to meaninglessness.

Then why are there civilizations in the Mediterranean, and even Europe, that predate anything in Africa? If anything humans are devolving into monkeys, not the other way around.

I indeed love the "You say that because it's in your book!" when they only say what they say because it opposes what's in the book, not because it's been scientifically proven/observed/discovered. It's fantastic how someone like Kent Hovind, who completely believes in christcuckery, is infinitely more scientific and objective on the topic than evolutionists.

Micro Evolution is an observable fact. It's provable and repeatable.

Macro Evolution is a house of cards built on inference and assertions with no credible science to back it up. It is not provable or repeatable that a species can evolve into a completely different species. For example, no amount of mutations to a fruit fly has ever produced something that is no longer a fruit fly, the most you get is variations of fruit flies you started with. Inferring it can happen over the course of 100,000 years is simply not science, by definition.

Watch Jurassic Park...it explains it all

Sure Chud, but now it's time for science, so let's begin: "IMAGINE that..."

because modern science is now a religion. Most modern scientists, while smart, are crowd followers and people pleasers. Given their propensity to anti-theism, they would do better becoming theologists or metaphysicists, but those occupations don't pay as well--- amd don't come with quite the same ego-inflation factor.

by finding historical writings

LOL, NO!

cambridge.org/core/books/medieval-historical-writing/forgery-as-historiography/39B194ABCBD887FC0036F65AD2FA8A97

Because we are basically a different species from what lives in africa. They evolved first, we evolved from them. We can build civilisations, they can't. So civilisation first appeared in the areas where we lived, despite them being around longer.

evolution

Niggers still live the same way in africa as they did 7 million years ago.

Science used to be okay with not knowing or having to speak authoratatively. That's why, logically speaking, Aquinas laid out a better proof for a creator than any intelligent designist... but as for the physical realm, how could anyone argue against something like irreducible complexity? Anything else is faith in randomness dressed up as science. They avoid logic because it forces them to acknowledge something beyond materialism.

kike thread

The world isn't that long, the world is actually 5785 years old and second of all humans are from the modern day Iraqi, Garden of eden

It's amazing that the same cynics who defend entropy and "we're all fucked, everything is destined to go to shit" thinks that the complexity of life came from a literal puddle with just a few chemicals in it, that the same genetic code by itself became a blueberry, a whale, a cat and a human. Their only answer to irreducible complexity is "imagine" with scenarios that would literally require an extinction event every single generation, as in "how did we become taller? Well imagine that one day a mutation made someone 1.31 meters instead of the normal 1.30, well that was such a big advantage it spread its genes when the entire rest of the species. Now imagine this extinction event happening for every gained centimeter. Or imagine that you could perceive some tint of red 2% better than your friend, then you'd obviously survive better and so you would reproduce and everyone else would instantly drop dead.

It's all such retarded bullshit when you stop swallowing it like a fairytale and think about the wider implications.

Undisputed

There's your key word there. Nothing in science is "undisputed" so you can infinitely shift the goalposts whenever you're shown a transitional form.
There's "transitional" species alive today.

When is the horseshoe crab going to transition?

Dunno. It seems to be doing fine as is given its symbiotic relationship with humans.
One of the best survival strategies in the modern world is to be useful to us in a sustainable manner.

symbiotic

I don't think it needs humans to survive. An according to evolution theory it would take millions of years for a horseshoe crab to change its biology ... so you have more chance of a catastrophic asteroid land on your head than see evolution.

I don't think it needs humans to survive

I didn't say it did. Just that it's a mutually beneficial relationship.

according to evolution theory it would take millions of years for a horseshoe crab to change its biology

Not necessarily. Depends on a lot of things.

there was more archaic human diversity in eurasia
80% of our evolution over the last 2 million years occurred in eurasia
this is a simpler interpretation of the data

evolution is a fact

evolution is a theory which has withstood scrutiny for 150 years
genetic algorithms inspired by natural selection are used in practice to solve black box optimisation problems
the theory of evolution will probably need a few amendments in the coming century
evolution is not a fact

It's quintessentially the opposite of symbitoic.... neither need each other at all. How do you or any human benefit from horseshoe crabs? Who on earth is lacking horseshoe crab in their diet?

Macro evolution (large-scale evolutionary changes) is unfalsifiable as by definition it requires millions of years.

we don't eat them;
we use them to make vaccines and drugs

How do you or any human benefit from horseshoe crabs?

Their blood is highly valuable in the medical industry.
Tens of thousand of dollars per liter.

Macro evolution

Is a poorly defined term. New organ structures formed in lizards when they were transported to a new island within a matter of decades.
Speciation in some animals could happen tomorrow if we just killed off a few populations of ring species. There simply isn't the distinction you think there is.

How does the horseshoe crab benefit?

It's made-up.

No, we didn't. Faggot.

The problem is the definition of Evolution is what one wants it to be. One could say the Chikuwas are an example of evolution.

They won't go extinct as long as they remain useful to us.
It's exactly the same relationship we have with chickens and cows.

the definition of Evolution is what one wants it to be

The definition of evolution is persistent changes in allele frequency over time. That's it.

From scientif textbook ... ick any ...."In biology, evolution is more broadly defined as the change in the heritable characteristics (traits or genetic makeup) of a population over successive generations. These changes can be small (microevolution), such as shifts in gene frequencies within a population, or large (macroevolution), such as the formation of entirely new species (speciation)"

You think humans are what is keeping horseshoe crabs in existance?

I'm an Evolutionary Deist, Actually!

ACKTually evolution is the bones we find along the way

wrong, faggot. You a part of the cult of science, nothing else.
Stop spewing retarded viewpoint, thanks. No, don't need to apoligized, we all know you're a faggot since you assume retarded things.
Let's explain to your brainlet brain, the rate of fossilization and the likelyhood of any random excavation bringing about a ((new)) ((hidden)) species.
It happen, and others anons already point out there's evidence for primates in europe for millions of years even. My ancestors, not some nigger masturbation religon believe that YOU have.
Today evolution is dictate by genetics and not fossils found, this is very unscientific and retarded position.
Others anons already point out the molar studies that also BTFO your gay ass view point.
In tl:dr fashion, you're a faggot OP.
Niggers are a different species than human (whites) or asians (chink, nips, gooks, etc.) or abo (australia), everything else is just a mix dead-end in genetic terms.
That may shock your little gay brain, but they will cease to exist between 200 years in the future to max 6k years top.
learn more, and spew less propaganda next time.

In biology, evolution is more broadly defined as the change in the heritable characteristics (traits or genetic makeup) of a population over successive generations

Also known as "change in allele frequency over time."
The "micro"-"macro" distinction is arbitrary and not even part of the definition.

Not necessarily. But their continued usefulness to us guarantees their survival.
Cows could probably live without us, too. But the benefit they get from us is undeniable to anyone with common sense.

then why can (((White))) people as you dumb amerimutts call it
just call them europeans you fucks
oh wait is it because that implies you're not white????
WHY CAN EUROPEAN NATIVES STILL GET ALBINISM?
.....

I asked what BENEIT do horseshoe crabs get, and your answer is they won't die bas we harvest them. Thats not "Symbiotic". They would need to get a BENEFIT for it to be symbiotic. Its exploitative.

Micro and Macro are definitions made up by scientists, not me. Take up their arbitrariness with them.... the point is, like a unicorn, you will never ever see Macroevolution.

Oh great, just another 1pbtid OP.
niggers just plateau as primates in terms of intelligence, some would even say they are becoming dumber, a lot of marine life has plateau and peak millions of years ago.
Same for insects and even other organisms.
Their shape is very adaptive to their environment and don't require deformation of appearance to survive, they change more on minute ways or inside to improve their adaptation to the environment even further until they reach a plateau.

I asked what BENEIT do horseshoe crabs get, and your answer is they won't die bas we harvest them.

They are guaranteed not to go extinct because we haven't them. That's the benefit. They gain special protections from danger because we want them alive. That's the benefit.

Micro and Macro are definitions made up by scientists, not me.

And the scientists themselves understand their arbitrary nature. It's as arbitrary as archaeologists conveniently slicing up time periods into things like the Stone or Bronze Age despite them not even agreeing on where one ends or begins.

Their is no solid definition of micro or macro evolution. They're wishy washy terms that are only meaningful in context of a given discussion.

because we haven't them

*harvest* them.

Checked but why the fuck are these threads being posted 1000 times a day? No one gives a fuck about materialist scientism anymore faggot. Nothing is true.

Thank goodness humans came along though hey, those horseshoe crabs may not have made it to their 445 millionth year of existence.

Better go check those Horsehoe crab farms to make sure their breeding and keeping the numbers up (to save you a post ... they don' breed in captivity).

Macroevolution and microevolution .... all words can take multiple definitions if no one agrees on a standard, as per this conversation.

Evolution is a fact

It's a description of how things "can" change so it's unfalsifiable, but sure

And humans evolved in Africa.

Nope

Genetic evidence proves this.

Lie

Fossil evidence also proves this.

Delusion

Your religion got biology wrong.

Your religion of evolution got biology wrong

Thank goodness humans came along though hey, those horseshoe crabs may not have made it to their 445 millionth year of existence.

If you honestly think this is any form of refutation, I don't know what to tell you other than "get your head checked." My argument was in no way contingent on them being at risk of going extinct without us. The benefit is they are guaranteed to survive because of us.

Macroevolution and microevolution .... all words can take multiple definitions if no one agrees on a standard, as per this conversation.

But "evolution" does have an agreed upon definition. The definition your textbook gave was a longer-worded version of the definition I gave.

Humans:

Homo heidlebergensis

Homo florensis

Neanderthal

Homo erectus

Etc;

Wew. Niggers are mad. Not one of the listed HOMONIDS...are fucking 'Human'. They're HOMONIDS. Animals. Lol. Niggers learned the truth and are mad.

So, whatchu be sayin

Faints

Gets back up

Whatcha be saying id, we wuznt hoomans?

The first MODERN HUMAN is 'Cro Magnon'. And 'Cro Magnon' is RH Negative. Like me. RH Negative DNA has "0" archaic ancestry. No homo erectus. No denisovan. No neanderthal. Nothing. It is its own species. And that species...fucked all of your hominid ancestors....giving us....you.

They are at risk of extinction due to humans. I really don't see Horeshoe crab, with ancestors stretching back 400 million years, see humans as being a BENEFIT to them and think of it as a "symbiotic" relationship. Would you?

I don't think you are the arbiter for the definition of whole words, including Evolution. You need to give sources.

Evolution doesn't exist, because it's not mentioned in the Bible.

They are at risk of extinction due to humans

Yes. And now conservation efforts, including breeding centers that you asserted were impossible, were developed. Now we protect them.

I don't think you are the arbiter for the definition of whole words, including Evolution. You need to give sources.

Your own textbook or whatever you quoted earlier works just fine. My source is your source.