Older brother told me that incels didn't exist and average looking guys had attractive girlfriends in the 90s and 00s

Females today are the root issue. Their standards are unattainable and unrealistic. Factor in the Jew media and Jew universities telling them they don't need no man/slay queen and here we are.

The internet ruined people

People didn't have access to men/women from towns away. You had to work with who you physically interacted with from school, hobbies, bars. Now any lady can go on an app and filter until she gets only the best looking guys, and they could be like 20 miles away and would have never crossed paths even just 10 years ago.

you lucky little blood shitter you

Women have gotten a lot fatter and a lot crazier since then. I can get not wanting to deal with them now.

White guys can’t be incel

your brother was right.
internet has degraded social cohesion.. also the fact zoomers don't seem to drink or go out much in general.

every guy swipes right on everything without looking (i sure did when i used tinder) so women get WAY more matches. also women don't seem to recognize that men will fuck anyone as long as they are like 3-4 rating points from them (so an 8 would fuck a 5)

this has led 5s to think 8+ men are actually interested in them for anything more than casual sex.
also, being a woman online, while it does come with downsides, is mostly marked with upsides in that dudes are far more likely to give them all kinds of attention just based on their voice alone. because we all like to assume the best and imagine they are a cute gamer girl and not a fat 30 year old.

basically women are getting inflated perceptions of themselves and for 8+ women that is fine as long as they settle their expectations at some point. for average women they are basically doomed.

average men on the other hand are just giving up after degrading irl attempts to meet woman and limited success online.

this is probably the new normal.. though it will likely get worse

reminder that back in the 2000s, guys would see picrel on the cover of a maxim magazine and think MY GOD THAT IS THE FATTEST ASS I'VE EVER SEEN

There was a ton of things to do and town functions that everyone went to. You'd just meet people organically.

Dude birth control pills are from the late 60s.

The Mall/library & house parties

We lost the mall. Anyone could find a girlfriend at the mall. If you were a nerd, it was the library. And then “House Parties,” it was basically impossible not to hook up at one of those, but this was before banging a drunk chick=RAPE. Obviously if she was passed out that was a different story. It was very rare for someone to have graduated high school and at least not had sex with the high school whore.

Fun fact! I married the high school whore! I was a bit of a whore myself but I beat the shit out of some guys that were harassing her, and we just never broke up, and decided to get married. Every time we try to break up we end up back together. I do envy single men though. Anyway, OP just try the Boomhauer method and like go someplace where there’s a bunch of people and just start asking for numbers. You’ll get one eventually. Best wishes!

We had a lot of local band scenes, I miss those. I wish I had tried harder with the goth chicks.

It was a different time

Yeah but they weren't widely used until decades later.

women were all trapped by whatever world they were in, there was no alternate, commercialized self or persona like there is today.

So there was also little chance for embarrassment for women. No one gave a fuck how some online rando might react to your life choices. Camera’s were rare so there was only hearsay about anything that happened too.

You could pull a move on a girl at a party, and if word got around it would die out and everyone would forget. None of that revenge shit.

When I'd would look up to the older kids back in middle school, it seemed every fucking guy had a girlfriend, but now? It's a completely different world; internet and Covid fucked up everything.

reminder that back in the 2000s, guys would see picrel on the cover of a maxim magazine and think MY GOD THAT IS THE FATTEST ASS I'VE EVER SEEN

Thank god those days are over! I swear, '90s and 2000's societies wanted women to be anorexic.

The thing is, women don't give much fucks about your appearance. They value your social skills much more. Millennials just grew up in the world where they weren't drown in internet and touched the grass, that's why their social skills are better.

Try not to be a boring fuck who can only spam obscure memes, go out to talk with girls and you'll need fine.

Life today sucks. It's going to continue to suck until there is a revolution, if there ever is. Otherwise life will continue to suck and only get worse

Wow, that’s so very true. I’m afraid to look her up. But I do remember “Vida Guerra” and man talk about “here today gone tomorrow.” But yeah everyone was like “her ass is almost too big.”

Nah people see the fallout from that shit in older generations and avoid it. Just like crack, heroine, meth, ... have their 20 year run and gutter out to a few hardcore losers until people forget again. I see way more young families now than I did 10 years ago. Just people who came up in the 00s got the door slammed in their face.

In Iowa maybe.

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It was before smart-phones gave people too stupid or impatient to learn to use a computer access to the internet and helped them spread their bad ideas faster and wider than they would have in person.

So there was also little chance for embarrassment

HUGE point. Kids in the 90s/00s could fuck up, learn from their mistakes, then move on. Zoomies and Alphas will seemingly never live down even the most benign missteps, and are intensely risk-averse because of it.

Roller rink

Drive in movie theaters

Biking around the neighborhood with 10+ friends

BB guns

Stealing parents' tools to build forts

Literally partaking in society IRL

Walkie Talkies with neighborhood friends

TPing, random late night antics

My opinion is that you had to go find entertainment rather than entertainment being obtainable at your fingertips. It made every experience for more rewarding, and that inluded dating. You're far more likely to end up with a high school sweetheart when you worked your ass off to get her and didn't have thousands of other women to compare her to on the internet.

I think you're doing two mistakes. Firstly, you're overestimating this effect. Secondly and most importantly, you think for some reason that this is how it will go for years.

As I think, this so called problem is temporary. Just pay attention to this: humanity has easily accessible internet for, like, two decades? Maybe three. Just a generation. That means we just haven't adapted to the new life yet.

I miss the internet when it was just nerdy whites.

'90s and 2000's societies wanted women to be anorexic.

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That means we just haven't adapted to the new life yet.

What I fear is how that adaptation will be expressed

We had digital cameras in those days, but man, we like barely used them still. Probably because uploading them to the computer, and then loading them online was still work.

My disagreement would be how parasocial this life is. The reason we call each other "nigger" on the Internet is because we're detached from the real world effects the word has. That applies to every online scenario; dating, messaging, platforming... Our consequences are less and it's making people more opinionated and less capable of enacting anything based on those opinions. Society is fucked until people become locally engaged; e.g. volunteering locally v.s. contributing to GitHub.

I had a few gfs in the 00's
They completely broke my already broken brain. Made me mgtow before that was even a thing. Haven't even looked at a woman since. Many such cases.

smartphones created in 2007, the world was never the same after 2008

We had memes with cats shoved down the shredder, shitty flash cartoons like Masyanya that were loved by everyone cause they were light enough to watch with slow internet, and comic sites with weird shit. The feelings of a post-Soviet teenager who suddenly saw a Russian yuri manga online and suddenly found out that girls could go on girls were truly something.

American Wasteland was the peak of the series. Better than either Underground.

Social dynamics - more closed groups. There was school, there was neighborhood, and that's it. So girls chose somebody from their know circle. Of course it didn't mean that every sucker could have a girlfriend, but social skills were much more valued over looks.

For me it was the same.

heroine chic never happened

ok zoomer

It was simple, few cameras around and little surveillance meant you could get away with frisking around and be a man and not even being found at the scene. No phone cams. So if girls dodnt know you personally, “rape accusations” couldnt easily happen.

The internet and cellphones just werent at the point yet where people could actually easily connect. And zero algos. So women were mostly stuck meeting only guys who were physically nearby. In fact friends groups were like this too, and if you moved, you simply lost contact.

The internet and communicstions tech and mass surveillance have really ruined society. Seeing kids outside these days and all look much less eager and happy than they were 10 years ago. There are also fewer.

It’s crazy that a functional society will pass from living memory in my lifetime.

I also never see little middle school friend groups together, or high school boys in ratty old cars. I guess kids can't even afford cars anymore, hand me downs barely exist.

I agree that it goes this way now. The question is, wouldn't it change in a few decades. When we see the process that goes on and on it's only natural to extend it into the future to the limit, though usually the trend changes at some point. At least, we all see this problem, right? This means that at some point we will begin to solve it.

It was foids that kneecapped the internet.
All/most of these rules, regs and laws are to protect them from consequences of being stupid.

What? People will concsiously limit their use of social media? Not happening.

I'm an older millennial, and an incel, but I got exposed to a lot gen X cultural norms.
Women weren't nearly as fat and tattoo-covered back then.
Also autism was less prevalent.
Also men and women weren't as "red-pilled" about each other.

Women weren't nearly as fat and tattoo-covered back then.

And to add, men weren't nearly as fat and bald(ing) as they are now.
It was actually remarkable to be balding in your 20s or even 30s (see Seinfeld) up until around the early 2000s, and then everyone just kinda accepted it as normal.

I'm not sure its necessary. It looks like a simple and wrong solution. Personally, I can't say social media prevents me from socializing. Actually, I found everyone in my constant circle of friends on the internet.

Hi Moshe.

They won't stop, but they'll do other dumb shit because lived experience tells them continuing last generation's dumb shit is suicidal.

average looking guys had attractive girlfriends in the 90s and 00s

they still do
but only if they actually talk to the girls first
a long time ago i asked my gf "why do so many girls go after assholes when they are young in high school"
she said honey, the assholes are the only guys even bothering to ask us out, all the quiet nerds never do, so we just assume they aren't interested
life lesson for you young folks, he who has ears to hear better listen up

Social media inflates the value if looks for a lot of girls. Not only they can choose in the market where they hold the upper hand, but they also account for their peers judgement through the same social media. It's not that bad, ofc, but the OP's problem is exactly that, and it won't resolve itself. People go for the shortest path to dopamine and social acceptance.
Goyim never learn

Everyone acknowledges people used to look older in prior generations. Look at Joe Biden at 29, or Sean Connery, etc. they were Norwood 3+. Retard

Graduate highschool before 2012

Had 1-3 girlfriends, may have married her

Graduate after 2012

Never had a relationship in highschool

Even visible at the time that zero underclassmen had girlfriends

Subsidized financeable smartphone came into existence around 2010

Before that Internet was on your windows vista PC

Zoomers timed it perfect to become adolescents right at the complete collapse of conventional society and mores. Alpha and beta teens are irrevocably retarded but at least the ones you see outside seem to talk to each other, viewing zoomers as cringe cautionary tales but in comes the teachers and single mothers to make sure every young man deeply hates women and voted until there is no more voting for that le handmaids tale future

It was actually remarkable to be balding in your 20s or even 30s

No it wasn't. Guys were just driven to hide it because they wanted to look young and keep fucking, or look young to get the next lucrative gig so they could keep fucking. Now a lot of guys in their 30s know there's no lucrative gig and they're not fucking anything.

Shut the fuck up midwit. You talk to women because you have a double digit peanut brain like them. Easy for mental midget men to get along with women, they’re on your level

I bagged a 7/10 in my time. Was pretty great, I didn't deserve to bag a 7/10, but I did.

Easy to explain. We werent as delusional as you are

>Women used to crave male attention

Women were solely driven by their desire be paid attention to. Otho g was really even themselves unless someone was looking serving them. Male attention as a resource women required to feel alive.

There are always needs and desirables but women were very available to average men.

THAW was the best THPS game not including THUG PRO.

Cross spamming this dogshit on >>Anon Babble right now as well. Get to work janny.

No one is fucking niggers lol

US foids have no recent genetic memory of war/famine, so they have somewhat different preferences. Physical and social protection is much less important, so they focus on attraction fads - height or whatever

incels did exist, just not in the meme, web version people know today

They were rarer, though, statistically, and weren't as aware of the existence of other incels

This is a difficult question to phrase, can someone explain to a clueless zoomer what the social dynamics of that world was like?

There's always a meta and an anti-meta. You are where you are where you are. Nothing really changes. If anything there is more social mobility now because the gap between the classes have shrunken due to the homogenization and universal increased consumption of the internet.

They didn't attach metaphysical importance to their inability to get a girl. They were just "super awkward xD" and "forever alone ;_;"

There wasn't any pretentious melodrama about it yet.

Everything is better when it's just nerdy whites. Everyone else isn't really real.

rarer

maybe due to the lack of internet allowing people to know other people with similar ideas

weren't as aware of the existence of other incels

not quite, nerds had places with activities, and inceldom was already a thing and pretty common in those places but nobody complained about them, same way zoomers these days are constantly looking for things to complain at, they were just part of the environment. If anything, this allowed them to have a place of their own.
Anyone who wasn't made aware just weren't nerdy enough, were posers or straightup lying. Same as the late 90s internet/early 2000s, fanbases and communities were filled with less posers and less larping

t.early millenial

Man the kids today look like clones. I just saw a group of like 5 zoomers with identical haircuts like they were in a boyband kek.

You could talk to women

Possibly, after one or two generations have been completely obliterated. Like by the time Gen Alpha is geriatric, maybe they'll voice their opinion and say that all this internet stuff is from OHIO. Which means that, you in this current time period will NEVER get to enjoy the (potential) turnaround, as you will be dead by then.

Yeah essentially millenials are fucked

No you couldn't

women were crazy but not yet psychotic
men were feeling the heat but were still strong enough not to check out/disassociate from the broader society and the people around them (most commonly, their neighbors)
if men got married, there wasn't yet a widespread expectation that a divorce = life over; today, that's quite different. while i believe that most of the MGTOW crowd's criticisms of present challenges are correct, similar to how marx's critique of capitalism (broadly, as a system) is mostly correct, in both cases their suggestions are beyond absurd. it's what could be loosely referred to as a chinese fingertrap problem. bad women -> bad men. one side has to be the adult, and presently we don't have a culture which rewards the strength of spirit and goodnaturedness required to potentially take it on the chin in the interest of ..basic civilizational survival

if i could capture it in a single piece of advice, since that's what this post is really soliciting, it would be this: do your best to become the person you think your ideal partner would be happy spending the remainder of their life with, growing old with them, and sharing a common legacy with for perhaps 70 to 100 years after they're gone. kids aside, i'd say that the above is the best you can do: think about the person or kind of person you desire more than anyone else, and try to become the object of their desire. it's quite simple, and it's going to hurt--a LOT--but it's how we made it this far. if, instead, people choose to throw up their hands and complain about the unfairness of it all, then we've more or less collectively admitted that we were the weakest link in an unbroken 4 billion year-old chain of successful reproduction

even if it isn't your best move, or even a logical one, we face an anxious choice regarding the continued existence of our way of life when we weigh the merits and potential drawbacks/risk of giving a little for the survival of ourselves and those we love the most

They didn't attach metaphysical importance to their inability to get a girl

Everyone has done this forever. Think about the number of historical societies that have arranged marriage, ritual prostitution, or literal entitlements like old time arabs. The idea that it doesn't matter and we shouldn't do anything about it is a uniquely bizarre modern fabrication.

This is probably a big one. Women crave attention maybe even more than a real relationship. Now even uggos are able to get tons of male attention without even being in a relationship.

They didn't attach metaphysical importance to their inability to get a girl

What you mean is that they didn't have an identity attached to it, people like that were left to their own and viceversa, so there was no need of ackowledgement towards one another, people just lived their lives.
Unironically, by the time the internet got too mainstream, normies made things worse for everyone because they couldn't accept it and soon enough filled the internet with midwitted opinions and shitting up every place that was "reserved" for other groups. No place is made to sustain that many people in the same area without coming to a detriment of healthy socialization. This happens whether its the internet or real life

I was a proto-zoomer unfuckable buillied weirdo who was molested by men and women. I had no friends and spoke to no one except the other loser outcasts. I had my first gf at age 13 (other than being molested and raped lol), a black girl with huge fucking tits named Octavia Harris. I probably got her pregnant, she left school after 4 months.

My second girlfriend was a weasel faced beaner girl named Maria Obalak. We sucked and fucked for years, her mom put her on birth control but tut-tutted us for fucking otherwise. I'm pretty sure I could have fucked her mom and gotten both of them pregnant had I pushed.

My third and fourth girlfriend were a pair of fat and fat titted goth girls. This was senior year. I was 17, I had a car, they were 14. I was a god to them. We all had threesomes together. It was awesome.

You have no idea how good life was in the late 90s and early 2000s. This is what the jews took from you. Everyone got laid.

To add to this, look at every overpopulated urban hellscape and mainstream social media, they are not very different in that they mix as many subsets of people and forces them to "live" together. That's not normal, never was in history and will always end in conflict

There's always been classes of people that don't get pussy. It's unavoidable. Only difference is now they have free reign to bitch and moan as much as they want without getting killed for being annoying. That post WWII era with the shortage of men, that led to baby boomers, was a historic anomaly.

It's because there was no tinder and people just had sex with their friend groups.

A lot happened between 2010 and now to change things very fast. But basically.

4th Wave Feminism led to a lot of cunty women

Body positivity also came in at the same time.

Lots of fat bitches acting like they are 10s

For some reason at this same time a lot of false rape accusations

High profile cases of guys having their lives ruined by clearly false claims

A focus on teaching "consent" and respecting women happened

Lots of men now generally skittish on engaging as they don't want to be called a rapist

Dating apps take over

Fat bitches mentioned earlier now have 100 guys trying to date them all at once

Hoeflation comes into effect because of this

Fat bitches now thing they deserve an 8 guy when really a 5 would have been there cap before

Standards women start getting for guys becomes insane and most won't settle

We now have a bunch of guys who never engaged properly with dating or learning how to start a relationship with a women. Then a bunch of women who have all slept around but think the men who they froze out of the dating scene aren't worth settling for or are creepy because they haven't dated much or had sex yet.

This exact thread has been reposted across multiple boards

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opinion glows like a thousand niggers
lack of shock unimaginable

Back then it was maybe 2% of men not 50%

Did men and women get along better and align more politically?

In the 90's, women were still useless cunts, but they were not in control of EVERYTHING like they are now.

Please oldfags, tell us what it was like.

It was better than now, but still not good.
Nice guys were not going to get laid, except possibly by desperate or less than desirable women.
The only cases of men not having sex was a combination of them being too nice and not really putting too much importance on the matter.
I WAS a nice guy, until college. I watched and learned. My fraternity was among the most useless, but they did help with that.
Attitude is VERY important.
You CANNOT fail the woman's shit test. If you do, just move on. Maybe she'll get jealous later, but probably not. It's a numbers game.
You poor zoomers are playing on ultra-difficult mode.

My advice, skip the bullshit, get right with Jesus and wait for the Apocalypse.
Seriously.
It ain't long in coming.

Every single point you wrote in greentext is astroturfed normieslop narratives invented by glowniggers
The normalniggers immigrating to the internet are worse than the real niggers immigrating next door. Now every normgroid tries to larp as "le victimized incel chud". Niggers are tempered and reasonable by comparison.

Go back to kiwi farms

Perception is not reality
You can't tell me to go back to anywhere because you don't know where I'm from. I'm from like 9 different places bro

meme flag

posting radfem bs

using terminally online lingo

Three strikes, you're out.

Btw once more Kiwi Farms mods are doxed, we're going to wait to see who triumphs in the KF vs troons battle, and then finish off the winner. It will be fun doing a distributed hunt on Anon Babble to find where you cunts, live, then have a drone drop by to visit.

don't believe your lying eyes goy

Old day trader trick Herschel, if you lose 3 times in a row walk away and come back tomorrow. You perform better that way.

False. I went to high school in 90s America and never had a girlfriend. And I don't think I got laid before 2010 either, and even then, only in Poland with a prostitute.

Back in the 90s, my school already had a few barely clothed girls with sexy underwear whoring around.
Then by the 2000s, I remember going to the bar with friends and their stories with how the unfuckable women were just as much of an active slut. However, said narrative just hadn't been weaponized like the incels were closer to the 2010s and was something some people would notice here and there, but to no one's surprise, incels were vilified as much as the nerds were in the 80s/90s and 2000s, causing them to move unto the next thing or fight back aggressively.

Overall, while the good things lasted, there were better ways to cope simply because the entertainment industries were at their peak and hadn't been used for politics on either side. DEIshit or anything the normalfags got into only started to become more common towards the late 2000s, they otherwise remained like niche tourist spots.
People really underestimate how filling up places can quickly turn them into a rat race experiments for everyone.
So to answer the poor disillusioned zoomers itt that didn't get to experience that era, we aren't going back, not anytime soon if its even possible.
The problem literally is places that are no longer sustainable to bigger audiences, so you now gotta share it with people that are disgusted by you or you are disgusted by them. Enjoy

I was a proto-zoomer unfuckable buillied weirdo who was molested by men and women. I had no friends and spoke to no one except the other loser outcasts. I had my first gf at age 13 (other than being molested and raped lol), a black girl with huge fucking tits named Octavia Harris. I probably got her pregnant, she left school after 4 months.

My second girlfriend was a weasel faced beaner girl named Maria Obalak. We sucked and fucked for years, her mom put her on birth control but tut-tutted us for fucking otherwise. I'm pretty sure I could have fucked her mom and gotten both of them pregnant had I pushed.

My third and fourth girlfriend were a pair of fat and fat titted goth girls. This was senior year. I was 17, I had a car, they were 14. I was a god to them. We all had threesomes together. It was awesome.

You have no idea how good life was in the late 90s and early 2000s. This is what the jews took from you. Everyone got laid.

Quoting my own shit to give advice:
1. Get a brown gf, at least to start with. Trade up later.
2. No birth control, ever. Always creampie.
3. Go out and rape a bitch who can't report it if you can't get laid otherwise. Pick a brown chick.
4. Complain about it to a horny older woman or aunt or something, maybe she'll fuck you.

Historically men took on dangerous jobs and fought wars in which they were slaughtered. While women had to endure the dangers of pregnancy. Men still have to do those things but pregnancy is not nearly as dangerous as it once was. So at times you DID have the sex ratio skewed. Particularly after a war.

Today there are more women than men because more women survive on average. You have retarded places like China that had the brilliant idea to abort their girl babies and ended up with the most expensive pussy on the planet because of it.

Modern women abide by de facto reverse harems but they won't admit directly. Indirectly you have the emotional tampon, ATM, boytoy, and so forth. With men the only ones with harems are Chads now down to 5% and dropping instead of the historic average of 20%. You also have the super rich but they rent and don't buy and statistically they do not matter.

Historically monogamy was the norm and you typically got with a woman who was on your level or a bit lower/higher. This was considered the norm and if you failed at it(most people have shit tastes) those around you, your community, family, and friends would hook you up. This is why arranged marriages were the norm. Harems also appeared but it was heavily restrained and often led to barbarism, instability, and backwardness.

that's simply because the entertainment industry was/is still ran by pedophiles who force and normalize boyish frames on females

i fucked 7 girls by the time i graduated highschool in early 2010s

140 lb girls were fat, as long as you didn't have a deformity you could befriend one and take her out on a date to dennys, buy her a grand slam and she would suck the skin off your dick in the parking lot because she was so appreciative of the attention. Girls haven't much changed, they've always been whores, men have changed and started worshipping bottom tier whores, probably due to shitskins but White guys as a whole followed suit and started letting low tier fat whores think they're something worth more than a grand slam breakfast at dennys which shifted the whole dynamic out of regular dude's range. Again, women are whores, always were, always will be but dudes started simping for average broads, we used to only simp for the top tier whores

Chad.

If you removed follows and likes stats on tiktok and instagram, we would go back to olden ways. Women crave attention, and the internet is giving them all they need to live.

Bitch, back then we had suspiciously young "petite" models too, nobody bat an eye. Things really went dire thanks to the normalfag invasion

It’s true, obesity crises was barely a thing, few autists, few snitches. If you weren’t complete loser or had crazy strict parents you should have gfAgreed but yet they virtue signal as such. You gotta be icky and retarded as fuck to fail as a white guy
It still is

True but they don’t want the nerd
Many nerds can shut down and kicked for the week

It was before dating apps and shit. I was in school during this time and I always had a girl and I am a 5'8 skinny jewish guy. So not Chad.

Yeah the rulers didn't have the war of the sexes going hard back then. But there have been game books written forever OP. So there's always been some difficulties.

The thing to remember is it's a numbers game. Talk to girls you're attracted to and don't get tunnel vision on one in particular. Eventually you'll hit. They're pretty much all the same anyways.

This is key. People didn't need to agree on politics, women didn't judge people based on politics. It was understood as a separate entity, another layer of life not your actual identity and baseline layer. Remove social media as a filter and suddenly everyone really got along except the 10% outliers on either end of that spectrum. Now that same 20% is the class in the middle (not of ideas but of people looking past a single trait or belief) that can ignore this shit and get along personally.
Good fucking luck today. My fiance calls anyone darker than nordics "niggers" (sorry Armenians and Italians etc and she giggles incredulously when told that Mexicans hate blacks for their skin color) and she looks like a model, I realize I found the needle in the haystack. The old crew who saw the 90s and hate modern society need to lean into their beliefs, not capitulate. I met her by laughing at fags. Beautiful, based women are hiding from this freakshow era and waiting for you to bash gays and brown and blacks in their presence so she knows you are a real man that will protect her from this faggot foreign horde.
t. Millennial with boomer parents who had polar opposite US political beliefs in the golden era

That still happens and always had happened and always will happen.

Girls haven't much changed, they've always been whores, men have changed and started worshipping bottom tier whores, probably due to shitskins but White guys as a whole followed suit and started letting low tier fat whores think they're something worth more than a grand slam breakfast at dennys which shifted the whole dynamic out of regular dude's range. Again, women are whores, always were, always will be but dudes started simping for average broads, we used to only simp for the top tier whores

Those are nuances of the current meta and don't really impact anything. If being worshippy is the meta strat then there is some anti meta strat and you get what you get. Like always.

suburban hellscape era

golden era

lmao

outcast

balding

been with more girls than entire thread combined

It is a numbers game, yeah, it was easier back then. Not a big fish in the pond? Find a new pond.

So who does a jew think "the rulers" are?
Also kys

Correct. Normie women are unironically deleting themselves in mass from the gene pool. Just sucks ass to be a normal guy because they end up collateral damage through absolutely no fault of their own. I don't know what the new 'normal' will be yet for women but we will have the answer before the next century.

Back then, they were very rare and vast majority of them were either disfigured or legit monks. Back than even the uglies weren't stuck as virgins. I remember when they were still called foreveralones and how their numbers rose. They were the only ones besides the Chads who saw what was coming and tried to warn people, but nobody listened. Than they started getting called incels and everyone started to hate/ignore them even as their numbers exploded so much so it included normie men.

Being a chud is normie now. We were there first but now every normgroid is doing it and overdoing it hard. Including your whore gf.

Lots of dudes left high school virgins in the 90s. Not very many girls did. Same as it ever was. I think guys used to hook up in college with looks matched girls but now every girl thinks she's at least an 8/10 and won't date most men.

Today there are more women than men because more women survive on average

more women are born than men on average by 1-2%, but male mortality is higher. there are also widespread fluctuations in the gender ratio.
men are always a genetic risk: for every Genghis Khan, there are millions of men who don't make it and never reproduce. there's some evidence that more men are born in times of abundance while more women are born in times of famine to increase the chance of survival/reproduction in the next generation.
this is because, biologically, being a mediocre woman is always better than being a mediocre man, but winning as a man is better than winning was a woman.

Why is Hunter your argument for the numbers have theory? Trading influence is a 100% pussy guarantee.

Back then, they were very rare and vast majority of them were either disfigured or legit monks.

What is this even based off of? You think there was a mystical sex fairy back then or something?

I'm talking about my own life as a kissless virgin at 16 to over 100 notches (stopped keeping count) by 31. I liked the picture. Apps have made it easier and harder. You making excuses for others like Hunter is your first problem. Women don't give a fuck how much money or influence you have for one night of fun.

2. No birth control, ever. Always creampie.

Bad idea.

3. Go out and rape a bitch who can't report it if you can't get laid otherwise. Pick a brown chick.

I really hope this is a bot

Hunter was with total cheap skanks that even normalfags wouldn't be all that excited about. Tiger Woods was the same way. I'm not really sure what it means when a high status guy does that shit. Trump and Stormy Daniels is another example.

more women born than men

woops, more men born than women

all you had to do to get prime pussy was be tall. Those memories have lasted me a lifetime.

goofy lookin pale guy fingerblasting girls behind the 7-up store since age 14

making excuses for others like Hunter

The fuck are you even talking about boomer?

even the uglies weren't stuck as virgins

not quite lmao, the joke of becoming a wizard dates all the way back and nerds being permavirgins was already a joke even outside circles. Heck the late gen Xer boomers had the whole geek thing.
Once again, you needed to actually join those groups instead of being just a poser to notice it

foreveralones

that was later and a poser normie meme, and anyone not lying knows that

most people didn't play videogames and social media didn't exist, so after school you would go and hang out at parks or in parking lots or just generally fuck around outside with friends or go to arcades/the mall/whatever.

this inevitably led to having friends and then eventually a girlfriend.

physical proximity to other people who are willing to be social is step 1 in having a social life. try it some time.

Millennial*
If you think other people get x,y,z due to height, money, hair, etc. You will never try. It's exhausting to put in the effort to get laid. First, you put out feelers, talk to everyone, be light, non-judgemental. You find the girls that vibe with you, be fun to be around. Don't talk to them logically like we are now, you talk sarcastically, tease, do the dance. Then you wake up and get them out.

i am 27, bald, and still haven't had a first kiss yet
my issue is i've never actually tried

Let's hear more about the goth chicks

I'm not really sure what it means when a high status guy does that shit.

Rating theory is bs. The notion that you can look at a guy or girl and put their attractiveness on a scale of 1-10 is so laughably retarded only a tiktok normalnigger would ever fall for it longer than two seconds

When I was a teen I was over 6 feet tall, very greasy, with long hair, and a decent face. Girls would walk up to me, hit on me, and ask me out, play with my hair, that kind of thing.

Nowadays the women my age are all on dating apps trying to get fucked while doing nothing at work for 8 hours a day. They are actively and extremely spiteful.

Shit's just fucked now. Giving women too much freedom does this, and they'd all unironically be much happier being someone's barefoot house slave.

It's not jewish males you fucking midwit. When jewish males run shit men get laid. God why are goys so fucking stupid.

Incels exist but the average guy did much better there is no comparison to today

Means serious drug abuse and emotional issues papered over with way too much money.

In hs girls did that shit to eveyone because they were horny from hormones and we were all clueless. Now there's no need to dick around with your greasy ass when they have access to guys that actually now what the fuck they're doing

giving them any freedom leads to the next step, don't give them a single inch next time

Mystical sex fairy exists, and it lives in each mans balls. Stop watching porn for a month and see what happens

The notion that you can look at a guy or girl and put their attractiveness on a scale of 1-10

Normal brained males actually do this though. We don't even think about it. Even gaybros do it.

You're going to get a lot of bullshit answers but the gist of it, at least for up until the 90s anyway is that life was boring as fuck. Especially for teenagers, this was before the internet so people actually had to go outside and develop hobbies. To watch movies even you had to own them or go to a theater. So young women and men naturally were drawn to the drama and intimacy of relationships in the sterile world of the 90s that was just on the cusp of the information age. When women still couldn't date the whole planet at once but were just starting to have cellphone numbers of every chad etc.

This is such an unfathomably bad take, my friend. Wasteland had nowhere near the atmosphere of Underground 1, the superior of the 2 games. It lacked an interesting story and had bland missions along with an extremely gay UI and color palette. It was a boring game, and inferior in almost every respect to Underground.

suburban hellscape

Funny stuff now tell me where I grew up faggot. A town of less than 2000, cope harder about everything you don't want to wrestle with

chud is normie

My bitch wouldn't understand half your post. Either find the shut-ins as freaked out at the modern world as you are or keep dealing with those actual whores trying on new skin suits as the tides turn every cycle.
You should both get off the internet sometime but it might be too spooky what with risk of failure and all

90s was fun, it was far from ideal but it was very fun. Especially if you expanded your hobbies, because they weren't overtaken by the normalfag masses and weren't your everyday's trend

women prefer to have chad 1 day a week with a don't ask don't tell type deal for the rest of the week
most of it comes their friends who will bully them if they date a guy who isnt chad enough because its how they cope with their bruised ego of being cheated on

For you and other nostalgia fags, for most of us it was boring as fuck just like the 80s. There's a reason everyone is on their phone now wasting away online.

I cant believe i scrolled past this and missed it at first.
I laughed so hard.

not every woman was an obese pig

moat guys were in shape and had social skills

Basically it's a confluence of two trends. Women on the 90's were all in shapen and society shamed them if they weren't. Fat people were shamed, not defended. A 4 or a 5 in 1990 is a 10 now. So your pool of attractive women was much larger. The factor other is the men themselves. They had basic social skills. They could groom themselves. They could fight. They resembled actual men. Everyone was Chad back in the day.

lack of smartphone+internet access

You're right.

You wouldn't be caught dead fucking a fatty
Only the ugliest of guys would marry Pic rel

See my other replies, I am not nostalfagging my way through the thread. Hobbies were still in a much better state and hobbies in general are a way to cope(there's nothing wrong with that by the way).
Now, a great portion of them have been overtaken by normalfags following tiktok trends and the likes. They bring in what goes online to the real world and viceversa, so of course you'd have the retards living online for approval and attention seeking behavior

???
I just don't like the idea of going back.
It's not going to be possible, and if it ever happens, it's only gonna play the same old issues because normalnigs just fall that easy to the same tricks, so no amount of regulations over people are gonna fix shit. The damage is done and there's no fixing it

You are young as fuck. Your hopeful optimism (which I can tell you already are beginning to doubt) will run up against the reality of the "hamster wheel" of society sooner or later. Society moves laterally, away from center- never forward. Each lateral move is confined to it's own "hamster wheel." We are forced to run on it endlessly, until the Owners decide it is time for us to step off and onto a new one a little further down the line. Nothing is getting better, or changing in an idealistic way. I feel for you man, but you're going to get your teeth knocked out one day and it's really, really going to suck. Accepting reality is something not everyone is able to do. Some cope, like you are doing. Some cope for their entire lives. Unfortunately, you will always be wrong, and your hopes for nebulous "solutions" doused in gasoline and lit on fire. You don't know what is trying to get control of the world, do you friend?

Women don't give a fuck how much money or influence you have for one night of fun.

But they do care about the illusion of money and influence. You need to make them feel like they are fucking Chad if you want them to have that one night of fun.

basically this

This

bro just spend every waking moment

thinking of ways

to gaslight whores

into touching your penis

Everyone knows this is an option but most have the sense to know it doesn't lead anywhere good. Just spend your time figuring out how to make money and fuck strippers.

I was 20 in 1990.
Average looking. You basically bag any chick you wanted the only thing that varied was the amount of work you had to put in. Hot ones required a bit more talking, you had to stand out from all the blokes trying to get her. Unless you had a head like a smashed wombat's arse it was pretty easy.
Feel sorry for you young blokes today, it's way harder for you and your women are all fucking head cases who completely overestimate their own worth on the scale of one to smokin.
Best of young zoomer.
A little bit of advice, dunno if it's applicable to today though. If you can get talking to a chick anymore than 2 minutes you probs got a chance.

It's not what you say that matters, the delivery is the key.

ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION YOU RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT

Very interesting takes on this thread but the issue for me is NIGGERS, ALBANIANS, SPICS, etc...
Too many people of different background to get along with

so we just assume they aren't interested

Bullshit, you should beat your femoid for lying like that. They know, they obviously know, as Esther Villar wrote, girls stop developing at 12 and functionally become whores, offering themselves to men to do everything in their place. Your roastie knew good nerds who'd make a good husband, those nerds simply didn't make her pussy moist, because femoids are retarded animals who only get wet when fantasizing about violence, they are truly the nigger of sexes.

Don't ??? me you queer fucking leaf. Do you need to wax poetic about your failures like you can't be easily dismissed while shitposting? Fuck off you retard with a dozen posts alternating between """serious""" and worthless shit like we all need to read all of your posts ITT to understand your specific message. You're gay.

So you're fucking niggers? Or you prefer men? What's the conclusion of this speech?

Beat women

girls stop developing at 12 and functionally become whores

LMAO there's always a crazy story behind posters like this

It would be worse without the vaccine, but you should probably still go see a doctor about that, anon.

It's not from me, it's from Esther Villar's book "The manipulated man" which caused a lot of femoid seethe.

Every group just had guys and girls. Like the nerds hung out with nerd girls and the goths hung out with goth girls and the spergs hung out with sperg girls... People were just friends based on their interests and then hung out and dated.

you're gay

queer

nah, I denounce those too

i had lots of flirtations and would fingerbang and makeout, fuck and even just drive around and walk and have nice times with ladies.
then the smart phone era happened and i havent been bothered of the headache of narcissistic women and hadnt fucked in i think 4-5 years or so. the last lady turned into a goblin anyhow but early in the instant messenger era the girls were cute, fun, not tattooed, fit, and actually pretty likeable.
now today i see why Salem happened and agree with it

I want to have my heart broken by her and dumped like trash.

Self-hatred is nothing new, just like abject failures are nothing new. You play your part so others can succeed in your stead, you'll never see or hear it but some man out there is praising his god for your ilk's persistent existence

this is probably OP

laughed harder

normalfags really hate to see it happen, but they were warned by the way.
Ziocons really want their old world back lmao
Not gonna happen

Yes, because beauty/age always been (except the past 20ish years) a woman feature, not a man one. For men it was about strength, success, etc.
But when the society got feminized, roles were reversed, now men are being chosen based on how they look and if they are model looking or not, meanwhile women are fat and full of tattoos, women are having a poly with 3 bf and the guy is not, the root cause of any problem the west have is because women are in charge, and they got in that position because they were given the right to vote.

this

correct, giving women freedom destroys civilization and the 19th amendment was a mistake

incels were invented recently to stop you and I from having sex brother

Why do you even want to have sex with him?

The future is robotic women

checked

men being chosen on looks

Me, as a looker on a spectrum, from eastern europe, wish i had moved to north america when i still had a chance for Stacy. Retarded slavic whores and golddiggers were just not for me.
Advice to ugly western men

hi

mutts law is real

holy sanguinary.stools, batman

fag can't even walk in the woods without guard rails

Wow, did they put a retard helmet on you too for safety before letting you go on this adventure hike?

checked

Incels always existed. There was tons of media about them all throughout media history.
notes from the underground
catcher in the rye
hunger
taxi driver

There were absolutely incels in the 90's. I worked in an industry where pussy was handed out like candy and there were always forever alone guys that, afaik never had girlfriends. They were mainly Scottish.

Back then was so much more whimsical and care free. Our social circles were WAY bigger. We cross pollinated into several other social circles. At least where I grew up, security issues weren't a thing. Large parties were pretty much open door, as long you behaved. So we partied more, we drank more, we did more drugs; we just socialized more. We weren't worried about getting vaporized by nuclear war. Our lives largely happened out there in the real world because social media and the internet culture didn't exist as it does today. We intentionally put ourselves in positions to get laid by always being around the opposite sex. This was way before the politicalization between the sexes, so this was also way before young men and women were absolutely repulsed by one another, as they have been programmed to do. No one was talking about their political ideas, save for a handful of kids who discovered rage against the machine and wanted to be commie edge lords. There were people who couldn't get laid, but that % of the population was quite small, certainly not 65% of 18-24 year old or whatever that awful statistic is.

Hope these insights help. Ask more questions if you want.

be single person

date other single person

work decent job

live decent life

Life was easier and people had less brainrot.
Now most of the population is depressed and on drugs so they fuck strangers and lie to themselves that it makes them a better person.

Well, there was a social divide, so there were the popular guys and the underdogs.

i'm sorry to have disagreed with you anon, you are right

The only thing i hate more than women is whiny incels who think their genetic mediocrity is not something to be ashamed of but a gift from the gods.

Was in my late teens-early 20s in the 1990s. Almost everyone in our high school had a girlfriend, even the ugliest and most retarded dudes managed to get a girlfriend somewhat on their level. Hooked up with my first wife my sophomore year high school and she took my virginity within the first week of school just a couple days after meeting her. We got divorced in 2000 when I enrolled in college and met my current wife.

Seems to me it was right around 2009 when MySpace and Fagbook were exploding in popularity when women started ignoring guys on their own level looks wise and hooking up with "chads". My youngest brother started bitching about not being able to get laid at the time cause girls his age - early 20s- were ficking older guys with jobs / money / cars / homes and ignoring him, shit talking him when he approached them. So incels seem to be a thing dating back almost 20ish years from what I can remember.

I was born in 1980 and I was an incel. It definitely wasn't easy at all. It's just that there were few outlets where people could discuss this problem.
I only got laid by 2004 with a hooker and was ridiculed for my virginity throughout highschool and university

your brother was right

False, incels always existed. Like I said above, even I was one in 90s Poland.

And then “House Parties,” it was basically impossible not to hook up at one of those,

I went to house parties between 1995-2004 and never got laid.

The fefails were turbo whores, just as much or perhaps even more so as they were in the days of s()ycial media as they were letting literally everything with a dick have a go at them without any sort of standards.
They were still utterly worthless as women, but if you wanted a hole it was there.
The ones wanting something more than that, like say wife material knew for a fact these tardthots weren't no matter how much they pretended otherwise.