Trump's "tariff" numbers are crazy

whats a tariff?

Trump is actually retarded, lmao

trump tariffed penguins. it's over for you fools

according to Trump a trade deficit is a tariff which can be fixed with actual tariffs, lmao.

are the leftists in the room right now kikenon?

what happens if all of these countries find new markets and stop trade with the us?

maybe americans just dont want 3rd world shit flooding into their country?

or they do... who knows

trade deficits are related to tariff rates

n-no i-its just drumpfth math chuddie

fuck off with this shit already. I give it 3 days tops before this whole topic of discussion gets quietly dropped because you retards realize how retarded you are.

shells

find new markets

Bitch please.

hurr durr Trump isn't retarded because trade tariffs are related to trade deficits

He is presenting trade deficits as trade tariffs so dumb Amerimutts feel better about being taxed more and shit eating retards like you still defend him. He is either malicious or retarded, I can't tell anymore.

Why didn't they already do that?

lazy entrepreneurs. same problem canada has.

That's actually insane. Only 3 months in and we're already at a point of going to war with Iran and collapsing the economy. Incredible

Doesn't matter. Had sex.

Here’s a chart that shows how Trump and his goons are using retard math and equating total trade deficit as tariffs and using that to decide the reciprocal tariffs they place in return.

Also notice how countries we have a trade surplus with all have a flat 10% tariff placed on them.

None of this math is based on tariffs. It’s all completely misleading and made up.

Wow, it might actually be cheaper to make clothes in the US now instead of importing them from third world slave labor.

Is this the new Reddit narrative?

wow, you're retarded.

Trump promised to import 3rd world labor to make things here lol
youtu.be/BvzSWjIVRH4?t=5785

No it isn't. Employees cost too much in us, cheaper to own a sweatshop in Vietnam than paying 200% tariffs.

Holy fk conservatives deserve to hang.

heres a history lesson, Jefferson made the decision to embargo the WORLD in his presidency for a retarded reason (to try and get britain and france to stop blocking eachothers incoming trade ships) and we not only didnt suffer a depression, our domestic production went up by pure coincidence. The federalists wanted just tariffs to do that on purpose, but Jefferson didnt give a fuck. Through his blundering, extreme version of what Trump is doing, America was better off for it, and he didnt even want to make american industry stronger, he wanted an agrarian america. And people remember Jefferson as a great president. youre hysterical, and you just cannot cope with how wrong you were about Trump.

The implication is that they think any trade deficit is bad - which is utterly retarded. Let us consider some hypothetical sand niggers. Oh wait we have a real example. Oh look the sand niggers are giving the USA cheap oil and buying US made cars. Unacceptable - let's make oil more expensive and stop selling cars.

lol, lmao

he didn't even mean to do it, he was just trying to say "fuck you" to Britain and France

unquantifiably based

no more cheap shit from the 3rd world

And?

find new markets

maybe they can make Africa not shitty or something? surely all those young aspiring doctors and scientists will get their shit together.

Noooooo you can't just base tariffs off actual numbers around balancing trade deficits!

if great depression 2.0 really does happen I suspect "kill your local migatard" will be a very popular sport

The left loves projection whether they realize it or not.

It's going to happen no matter what, Trump is partucularly retarded but the USA is just finished as a state. No society can survive replacing the majority of its population with foreigners.

no u

good one mutt

People have been crying for change for years. Trump does something to change things and people are crying.

1pbtid
globalists big mad

I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you libtard
Trump knows what the fuck he's doing.

Surely the drunk childless fake black puppet would of saved us

1pbtid

Trump knows what the fuck he's doing.

Lying to your face so he can tax you more?

You can't start out using those numbers ~ Shitlibs

I thought you libs loved taxes
Make up your mind stupid fucking cunt piece of shit
Fuck you

US are, bar none, the biggest consumers in the world. Despite making up 4% of the world's population, they make up 25% of consumer spending. There are no bigger whales, figuratively an literally, than Americans. Any country or business that doesn't sell to Americans will find that a competitor has sniped up their marketshare instantly.

be mostly consumer nation

tariff everyrhing

MAZALITO MY GOYIMS. DIE FOR IRAN

Is this how it works?

t. Trump

A magic stick that you can beat other countries with to make them give you more money while strengthening your domestic industries

t. Reality

A good way to force your trading partners to trade less with you and more with your competitors

It might work but so far it looks like a big bed-shitting event. But give it a year or two to see properly

FPBP
Don't care, cry moar sweatshop billionaire lovers.

Cambodia: 97%

> US exports to Cambodia: $321.6 M

> Cambodia exports to US: 12.7 B

> Ratio: 321.6M / 12.7 B = ~3%

> Vietnam: 90%

> US exports to Vietnam: $13.1 B

> Vietnam exports to US: $136.6 B

> Ratio: 13.1B / 136.6B = ~10%

> Sri Lanka: 88%

> US exports to Sri Lanka: $368.2 M

> Sri Lanka exports to US: $3.0 B

> Ratio: ~12%

That's great, the fact that we export so much less to them than they export to us means they literally can't retaliate in any meaningful way so either they do what we say or we destroy their economies and reshore their industries. This is what I and 77 million Americans voted for

What do you think those numbers mean?
You're just calculating the trade disparity as a ratio.
What's your fucking point?
That shit has nothing whatsoever to do with tariffs.
Jesus fuck leftists are dumb.
No wonder you're all so bitter about rich people.
You're too fucking stupid to ever be good with money so you're jealous like a little bitch.
Sad.

>be mostly consumer nation

The whole point of tariffs is to provide an incentive to increase local production.

The point is to bring American industry back to America, as Trump has openly stated for a decade. If third world shitskins have to suffer for that to happen then that's a price I am willing to pay

Americans will pay more for foreign goods under these new tariffs, but Trump’s administration sees this as a strategic trade-off. The idea is that by making imports more expensive, it gives domestic producers a price advantage, encouraging companies to manufacture in the U.S. again, create jobs, and reduce reliance on countries like China. It’s not just about economics—it’s about national security, tech sovereignty, and reindustrializing America. They also believe that tariffs can be used as leverage: “you want access to the U.S. market? Drop your barriers.” That said, there are clear downsides. Prices go up for consumers, businesses face higher costs for materials, and other countries may retaliate with their own tariffs. We’ve seen this before during Trump’s first term—tariffs were slapped on Chinese steel and other goods, but the trade deficit barely changed and inflationary pressure hit hard in sectors like agriculture and electronics. So yeah, the logic is that short-term pain leads to long-term independence, but whether it works that way in practice is still debatable.

Damn you people are stupid.
You're trying to figure this thing out like its the fucking DaVinci code.
Nigger, he TOLD you.
They are reciprocal tariffs.
Whatever the other country tariffs our shit, thats what we tariff theirs.

increase local production.

Why ship it off to China in the first place? Kek. Has Trump dealt with the CCP agents in all major US industries? No? Even left/right media mostly slept on this.

We can always tell a seething leftoid because you fags can't resist ending your sentences with "lol" or "lmao" because you are so fucking arrogant you have to try to convey it through text.
You lost.

Good luck with that.
We won't be policing sea lanes anymore so have fun.

Why ship it off to China in the first place?

To increase profit for rich people. That's how the the US (and the west in general) have been geared since Reagan and Thatcher. Things are changing now.

OR

The new global tariffs announced by Trump aren’t just about trade — they’re a financial and strategic maneuver to deal with a system that’s running on fumes. The US economy is heavily inflated, debt-driven, and largely detached from real production. With over $34 trillion in national debt and rising interest payments, Washington needs real capital flows, not just printed money. By taxing all imports, the government is effectively creating a new revenue stream through consumer spending — a hidden tax to fund the state. And what’s that money for? Defense. The US is shifting its focus from Ukraine and the Middle East toward containing China, which it sees as the only real threat to long-term dominance. You can already see signs of disengagement from Europe and a rush to wrap things up in the Gulf. The tariffs are a way to force re-industrialization, rebuild the military supply chain, and break free from global trade dependencies — especially with China. The idea is simple: if the global system no longer benefits the US, then it needs to be dismantled and rebuilt on American terms. This isn’t just protectionism — it’s economic mobilization disguised as trade policy.

No shit we don't export much to countries with huge tariffs on us. Are you really this retarded?

Your source is a rando on Twitter.

You
Are
Stupid
And
A
Liar

Things are changing now.

Yes, now you have to replicate China to be competitive. Social credit system = Trumps merit based society, stargate initiative, Musks X = wannabe WeChat
theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/29/elon-musk-wechat-twitter-rebranding-everything-app-for-west

His tariffs are a good idea.

It will make us rich in the long run.

it’s trump’s own list, anon. can you justify tariffing places that have no population?

If depression 2.0 happens the city niggers will eat the city leftists.
You are a pussy and won't do shit besides die like a bitch.

...until the dollar loses its reserve status which Trump is speedrunning

less choices good

competition bad

Free market lovers, indeed.

So it hurts those countries much more than the US...

I will cut my arm off so you lose a leg

Okay buddy.

I can’t believe trump shifted the money printers into maximum overdrive

YOU (you) are paying the tariffs, Cletus

Loooks like you niggers don't understand, so lets put it simply:

guy 1 sells 1000 thingy to guy 2

guy 2 sells 100 bingy to guy 1

guy 2 doesn't like it, that guy 1 has a special fee on bingy coming from him

guy 2 puts that fee on thingy from guy 1

they will trade less now/not trade at all

guy 1 need to find others to buy his 1000 thingy and guy 2 to sell his 100

Which do you think is harder?

bring American industry back

And where is it, Cletus? You are paying the tariffs. Where is the industry?

But I’m not buying tariffed goods?

it’s economic mobilization disguised as trade policy.

Yes, but also restructuring of the whole economic order, as ENERGY will be the most important "currency". Its going to be multipolar, but fundementally all the same.

You're close, but you're missing the trick up our sleeve.
We aren't just disengaging from the global trade system, we're throwing a grenade in on our way out.
Everything you said is correct, but you failed to recognize that the entire system of global trade is dependant on American security protections on the open seas.
Ask yourself what would happen if instead of guaranteeing global shipping, we started actively disrupting it?
That would be devastating to the global economy, but if we aren't invested in it then we wouldn't really care.
And the thing is, there's nothing anyone can do to stop us.
China might be able to beat us in a straight fight off their coast, but if we decide to strangle their oil supplies by intercepting every China bound oil tanker coming out of the gulf there's not a fucking thing they can do to stop us.
The 2030s are gonna be really ugly for the world, but as you pointed out, it's really our only option given the state of our economy and China being ascendant.
We need to break them now or it's over for us.
This is why we are trying to get out of Ukraine, and letting Israel run wild in the ME.

In the concrete examples:
Cambodia exports to the US around 36 times more.
Cambodias economy is very small compared to the US.
Which will hurt more?
Same with Vietnam and Sri Lanka.
The US is so wast, it can actually do autarky, although should we even call that, when the US has everything?

There will be winners and losers for sure once this all shakes out.
Most of Europe falls into the loser camp.
The winners will seem obvious in hindsight.

I love how mad you are. If only you could see my smile.

All I’m seeing is the world got too comfortable and took US consumerism for granted while taking every waking opportunity to shit on the country they exported to

I kinda want to see entire sweatshop countries collapse for the funny.

Europe is dead, but will fuck up its nature anyway for a few shekels. And American Technate will be seeking competent settlers to Greenland. I see many eacaping there as there will be more "freedoms" there. Good place to dump Euroslaves

The obvious and desired result of all of this is that these countries will simply drop their tariffs.
Allowing American goods to compete in their local markets will be far less devastating than losing access to the American market.

MIGApedes are incomprehensibly stupid.

We live in interesting times.

All you had to do was stop going after children and video games.

You're absolutely right, and that's the part I really missed. The future is going to be tough, now I understand why China is actually training and demonstrating the ability of their civilian cargo ships to carry helicopters.

If tariffs don't work then why were these countries tariffing us in the first place?

Maybe.. just maybe because Cambodians cant afford American goods, you fucking idiot. Americans are privileged to be able to afford international goods, thats a luxury that our ancestors explicitly sought, and they knew it would cause ire. Now we have a MORON that is destroying our advantages. You are a subhuman. Kill yourself.

And that's why they invested trillions for a new Silk Road.

Bingo

No, see, you Americans are retarded, stupid even. How dare you try to stop other countries from fucking you over? You really need to stop, seriously stop. Stop? STOP?!

Yep.
What we are seeing now is the start of WW3, but it's not going to be fought with guns.
WW3 is going to be fought with tariffs and cyber attacks.
Whichever side has the most resilient trade system will win and rule the world for the next century.

Yes, but they are too stupid to see that.

destroying our advantage to piss away our wealth on useless trinkets and shit

You are retarded.

fucking you over

broad tariffs to generate revenue for their country

its actually a rich tax because the average person isnt buying american goods

Why would a persone arning $30 a day buy a $5 product when they can buy a $1 product. A 10% tariff doesnt fucking matter, those tariffs are there so that the wealthy consuming "premum" goods generates money for their government.

The US doing that is absolutely masochistic, becuase it doesnt really boost sales, it just huts the average consumer. Now we have x% less spending money, thanks.
You have a subhuman IQ, stop tlaking.

Maybe, we will see.
Europe certainly seems to taking their stupid pills but what else is new.

This question can't be answered by these paid-per-post dolts, they are merely agent provocatuers

you mean all the memeflaggots with their CNN-tier arguments didn't convince you?

You'll never be a real woman, faggot.

You don’t understand that the point of all this is to unwind the trade deficit and disarm the dollar milkshake CBDC bomb London was planting

London

ledgerinsights.com/bis-hands-over-mbridge-cbdc-payment-system-after-brics-controversy/

Its the Swiss BIS. They built the BRICS system and then bailed out to save face

Linux became 10% more expensive

Fuck bros, i might have to pirate it now.

Its not gonna happen any time soon. Look up dollar milkshake theory. There is an insane demand for dollars outside the US and no other country is currently in the position, or even has the desire, to fully replace the US dollar with their currency.

Everyone is already trade-maxxed.
There is no emergency escape route.

Before 2020, the SDG Agenda 2030 shit was supposed to involve Russia and China. You can clearly see that’s come to an end. CBDCs are still dangerous tools but the whole agenda doesn’t work if there are entire trade blocs who aren’t integrated into the AI price controls

No tarrifs on Russia? Hmm.

Calls itself the silk road

Is just a rebrand of the trans-siberian railroad + a few roads to nowhere-abad, Pakistan.

The dependency on the dollar was always the plan to lock countries into the Great Reset. We are all to structurally dependent on globalism.
The comparative advantage is amazing for GDP but it’s warping domestic society badly in an unsustainable way

Aren’t those countries producing clothing for American countries?
Do you think GAP will produce its shirts in the us, by American people?
How much will a t shirt cost then?

agenda 2030 shit was supposed to involve Russia and China.

But it does. They fund a lot of the Green energy memes in Europe. They are all founding members of the UN with VETO power.

Trumpinos still think this is some 5D underwater chess move

Your guy is just as old as Biden was when he got elected in 2020. Trump is simply demented, time waits for no one.
Sunken cost fallacy does the rest here I guess lmao

Only that the numbers are wrong. US isnt tarrifed at the rates in the list. Its not very genuine to just invent a number and then do a reciprocal tariff on the invented number.

Well, no because trumps tariffs are based on tarrifs in the target country. They're based on trade deficit. So the target countries best option is to stop exporting to America.

Not really. Its much bigger than it seems

the migabrain still believes this shit

lmao

who cares fuck you faggots not helping you anymore

Americans excited that they're going to need to open $2 an hour sweatshops in their own country to be able to afford clothes

Lmao

the penguins are mostly black, they deserve it

kys migger

Good thing they have a bunch of immigrants to fill the demand

Really should be called the silk sea-way then.

dumb fucks cant give a straight answer its basically a fucking tax on other countries for shit like oil,dildos, garbage

But those immigrants are going to be getting all the comfy tech jobs.

Its really called the Belton Road. Its also unofficially called the silk road because kikes 'were' the main silk road merchants ;)

Jesus fuck, you're all retards.

would never happen and i mean it because jews would lose their fucking mind over it

Rust belt. America has a literal Rust Belt because corporations bought politicians to shut it all down. We are now servants in a service economy. And that's pathetic. If you don't start electing smarter and better reps in Congress you are fucked and you aren't going to make it. One 48 month temp can't do it all.

Idk what the fuck is up with the Israel/Iran mess. I don't support any of that but the tariffs could work out. Good luck building a competitive market without the US. At the very least I'm willing to see where things go, if accelerationism is what's on the menu then so be it. I really don't buy consumer replaceable garbage anyway.

you lost, tranny.
keep seething.

If energy is the new currency then Europe will be part of the winners

You forgot Americas number one export bud, the dollar. Everyone wants the dollar

Lol

find new markets

They are the market on their own.
A person can afford anything they can produce. Its called Say's law. I mean, the specific laborer might not but the economy they work in can, as a whole.
All countries in the world can trade with each other and ignore the US

Sri Lanka is currently almost a failed state, they're barely holding together after going bankrupt
What is even the point of raising tariffs on such a country.
Their 'export' is probably US tourists visiting the place or buying seashells or something

Anyway, what did those penguins do to the USA?

hes jewish you dumbfuck

Everyone wants the dollar

Funny how the US has to murder anyone trying to not use the dollar

throw a grenade in a crowded area

omg the seething on those semi-alive people is unreal, what a based grenade thrower

High school reject mindset

Those numbers don't exist, they're not tariffs, tariffs are per category of product, a lot more complicated than one single unique number

That shit is circus for the retarded masses

Hm, I didn't know chinks had plans here, except the Shipyard. But, now it makes sense, as I was wondering where was government acquiring funds for the planned new, massive communication hub near Warsaw - it just happens to lie exactly on that Chinese map of investments.

Yeah, also Rail Baltic is being built for my shekels and globohomo trade

communication hub near Warsaw -

Communication?
Nigger you are communicating right now

This is the only part that really bothers me, it means whoever in Trump's cabinet that came up with the list of countries to tariff doesn't know that McDonald island penguins and Christmas island red crabs don't have a trade surplus with the USA.
It looks like real stupidity or is there some genius move that eludes me?

The green & nuclear energy revolution is unstoppable.
European world domination is inevitable once North America and Greater China annihilate themselves in the upcoming trade war

nuclear

Where do you get fuel? Your colonies you lost? Canada? Russia?

Despite making up 4% of the world's population, they make up 25% of consumer spending

This is all due the dollar you moron. You have 2% saving rates which means all the leverage consumption that you do comes from money printing. Mutts are literally retarded and think that the ability to CONSOOOOOOME is actually an intrinsic quality and not just a feature of a global trade system based in the USD

with what? Leddit and bluesky posts?

It's more like if he ran into a crowd holding the grenade himself and then pulled the pin. The US is going to get fucked by this way harder than Europe will, though it's going to be poor countries who get hit the worst.

Most of the exports from places like vietnam, cambodia, and sri lanka are clothing and assembled consumer electronics.
These are not domestically controlled goods, but large multinationals setting up shop and exporting to the US.
So yes, you're technically right that vietnam will no longer export to the US. And entire assembly plants in vietnam for canon cameras and printers will shutter.
Canon will still sell cameras in the US, but they won't be manufactured in Vietnam.
It's not 5D chess, it's a basic attempt at a supply chain reallocation.

Your salty tears are delicious, keep me posted.

What is this nonsense
How do you protect shipping in the Mediterranean, North or Black Sea?
Like effectively, tell me the 3, 5, 15 things you're doing that effectively does that.
I think you Americans are getting a bit ahead of yourselves. You don't fucking have ships protecting shit on the whole planet. Your military bases definitely do not defend shipping lanes around the Cape of Good Hope or the Canary islands.

BTC is tokenised energy

Europe has no identity. There's no mechanism for the EU to become a world leader. At best the EU reacts to the crisis of the month - there is no will or cohesive framework to evolve. The EU will just splinter the moment it has to make any plans for a future. That's why the EU started shitting its pants when the US wanted to leave NATO.

A noticer i see.

Kids looks so cool smoking. Only fags look gay smoking.

You fucking idiot mutt
Europe TRADES MOSTLY WITH ITSELF
YOU BRAIndead moron

Out of a 20 trillion (29 in PPP) economy, our exports to the US are around half a trillion, that's barely 2.5% of Europe's economy.

You need to lurk more, generally speaking

Romanian intelligence

Memeflaggot

Opinion immediately disregarded.

Even Vietnam is too expensive for them nowadays, I see that most clothing seems to come from Bangladesh here nowadays, at least the cheap to relatively cheap ones, and they're complete garbage that don't last at all.

Contributing an ounce of sanity to a pretty shit thread:
Trump's plan to bring industry back to the USA is working and has already been working long before the tariffs. I work in industrial automation, and the MOMENT it became clear that Trump was going to be the president and he wanted to make foreign manufacturing borderline unaffordable, business got really fucking good for me. Everyone and their brother is planning on either building new factories in the USA or retrofitting existing ones to handle more capacity, and they have been for months before "liberation day."

And where are they deployed?
Show me on a live map

Holy shit the delusion. China has oleoducts and they would outproduce you 300:1 if both of you went into a war economy. If the US becomes a rogue state you would just recede towards Brazil in a decade

it's liberal bullshit

both economical left or right can be against or support tariffs but for different reasons

They're deployed in your gyspy mother's massive cunt.
You'll remember how the us navy contributed to safe shipping lanes when your chinese dildos are lost at sea near somalia.

MAGAtards, your response?

The United States put perhaps its most economically illiterate citizen singularly in charge of (destroying) its economy.

Stunning and brave.

I couldn't give a shit
Our trade is mostly with continental Europe
For all I care you can cut the internet cables all around you and take all you niggers and spics stationed here

most of your trade is missing children and selling rat meat as lamb.
disgusting romanian piece of shit.

Why do we pretend its incompetency if its clearly a controlled demolition. To bring a replacement to the Bretton Woods agreement.

cruisingearth.com/ship-tracker/united-states-navy/

That is what the trump admin said, but the numbers make no sense.
How would Japan have a tariff on the US that high, Japan has the lowest import duties (tariffs) in the world.

So that got people wondering, where did these numbers come from. And yes it is that stupid.

i'm enjoying this schizo phase of america

it's pretty based. i hope we nuke romania. and rid the world of the gypsy homeland.

Britain tried that as policy for 400 years, dumped trillions into it, it isn't happening

all you have to do is export less to US and import more from US if you don't like tariffs

You know that all the machines import that you need to open a factory just got 34% or 66% more expensive out of nowhere? Amortization is also a cost you fucking dingus, a lot of manufacturing projects would be stopped as the ROI has suddenly dropped and it will just be cheaper to pay the tariff

What's stopping me from opening up a warehouse in the lowest tariff countries and simply reselling products from countries with the highest tariffs?

You faggots need to accept that you got hoodwinked because you are so nihilistically self-absorbed that you thought a lifelong con artist was going to make things better for you. You are so dementedly blackpilled that you care about nothing "OWNING THE LIBS" like a retarded homofaggot boomer. You and faggots like you are beyond useless and you better not weasel out of dying for Israel since it's what you voted for.

Russia unironically will have the lowest tariffs and become a rexport hub to the US

Is this Zion Don's masterplan? Holy fucking lel

how about drilling more of that US oil instead of funding terrorists?

THE MARKETS ARE THE SAME COUNTRIES THAT MAKE SHIT
ANY COUNTRY CAN AFFORD THE PRODUCTS IT MAKES. YOU DONT NEED FOREIGN BUYERS
SAY'S LAW
GOOGLE SAY'S LAW

holy

Rockwell/Allen Bradley PLCs are manufactured in Wisconsin, faggot.

When you make chat GPT posts, you've got to ask it to get rid of the hyphens. Long hyphens give it away.

either high cost labor + shipping
or
high cost infrastructure (doesn't exist) + shipping

turning third world shit holes into manufacturing hubs requires a lot of investment and a concerted effort by local governments and several large corporations for any benefit to be seen.

all things made equal, high COL countries with existing infrastructure will probably be the first picks.

I don't understand, why not just do away with the pleasantries and embargo these shitholes? Fuck the hit we would take from it, they will still be irrevocably crippled without buyers for their shit. When a negotiation goes nowhere, you walk the fuck away.

everyone thinks they're owed shit

lol
lmao

maybe support yourselves, faggots. trade is one of the main drivers of globohomo.

Donny is fuckimg based. Matchmaking is now live and teams autobalanced.

It is a beautiful thing if you are a US based manufacuter making things out of US raw materials.

These are the best quality things in the world. USA only exports are banking and Indian tech companies. This will inspire American manufacturaing again.

The US is the biggest importer in the world for machinery and domestic production barely covers 1/3 of demand. You won't magically have those machines manufactured internally any time soon you fucking moron. For example you just put a tariff on ASMLs EUV machines out of thin air which makes your entire semi industry less competitive than before

We are going to be the primary sufferers. I don’t give a fuck about 3rd worlders.

teams autobalanced.

Hold up, m8. You haven't seen DonnieMusks final form

Most of them are either stationed in the US or docked close to some ally state like Japan. Not necessarily protecting any shipping lanes.

it won't happen overnight so don't try

k. fag.

Didint most of South America tank their economy with high import taxes? Is this what Trump is trying to achive.

What about US companies that import materials from Europe for further processing/assembly?

This just makes America go dark on the map. China is the center of the world now.

That's not my fucking problem. I said business was good for me, in automation. The shit I use is made here. It's not my decision to build those factories. Those companies are determining, by themselves, that building a factory in the USA would be more profitable than continuing manufacturing abroad, and then they're coming to me to ask me to program their machines. I really do not think that YOU are smarter than the average corporate logistics accountant who makes the determination to move an entire factory across the world based on purely objective mathematics.

Nigger every European that goes to USA to live and work has more savings then you.
Why?
Europeans are not ZOGslop consumers
For example I would just buy carton of Marlboro Southern Cut if I visit USA. I don't need any other slop.

I honestly wonder if some Jews somewhere have a $100 trillion dollar short position on the dollar and are just using Donald Trump to finally sink the ship.

Didint most of South America tank their economy with high import taxes?

No, because such a thing has never happened. South america has never "tank" their economy
They are just what they are, somewhat poor like they have always been except not as bad as before

What sort of wages will American sweatshop workers demand. Are 90% tariffs in Cambodia even going to do it? Shit might still be cheaper.

It is not only building machines in the US, it is also getting to the levels of productivity of the top producers which Germans have an advantage over the rest of the world, you just made most US investments ROI unviable and with decreasing consumer demand you will get deindustrialization unironically

That's not my fucking problem.

Ok be poorer

I said business was good for me, in automation

If the economy tanks your job will also tank, you are too stupid to understand how basic things work

South America

That only way for them to pay ZOGbots and public service workers.
Since 80% of their workforce is black market and dose not pay income tax

To bring a replacement to the Bretton Woods agreement.

Ain't happening. Would need to bring back the gold standard or similar to do that.

Would be a good idea but it would require the US doing the opposite of what Trump is doing, would mean working with the IMF, the world bank to have a mutually beneficial system tied to the dollar. Right now he's alienating everyone from the US in every possible way.

There is no 4d chess. Trump doesn't understand tariffs, he thinks they take money from the other country because he doesn't accept that the consumer in the US pays the cost, as a tax effectively.

Trump did tariffs in his first term, and Biden continued most of them too. In his first term one example was a tariff on washing machines that failed to bring manufacturing of them back to the US and it also raised prices for consumers.

What Trump is doing is giving China a lot of business and hurting the US in the process.

That implies the population is productive, nothing you do can make Africans productive, its already been tried to death.

It is all ROI calculations, you have to factor in wage costs, logistic costs and amortization costs and crank up the numbers. High tariffs also allows to jack up prices as you have less competition. America is going through its Peronist phase and if these policies are not reversed you can expect 70 years of economic stagnation

If the economy tanks your job will also tank

Way to read the entire post you fucking shitskin retard. I know you're brown because you have no reading comprehension.

No I read your retarded post and it is retarded, your sector is not the entire economy you retarded low IQ mutt.

holy now this is a low IQ post, textiles are already fully automated, only the shittiest of asian sweatshops still have kids stitching

They are sanctioned I've read the treasury considers them dead by extension

What negotiations, you understand that these countries don’t actually have huge tariffs on us, right?

We can always tell a paid Trump shill from Mumbai because you pajeets can't resist ending your sentences with "you lost" because you are so desperate to make it look like Trump has any authentic support on Anon Babble anymore you have to try to convey it through text.
lol. lmao.

WE DON'T EVEN EXPORT VERY MUCH TO THESE COUNTRIES WHO TARIFF OUR EXPORTS AT 90%+

HEH CHECKMATE DRUMPF

textiles are already fully automated

You are retarded, if this was the case production wouldn't move Bangladesh and would move low energy price countries like China which is the opposite of what is happening

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I usually don't reply to memeflaggots, but it is happening.

WHO TARIFF OUR EXPORTS AT 90%+

No country does that lol, you are a moron

Jews absolutely loosing their minds as the shekels fly out of their pockets !
Lmao !

It’s a Jew or MI 6

Probably because it's unprofitable and the product selection and quality is shit. Have fun building back up your economy with literal turds

There shouldn't have been any tariffs on us to begin with, other than perhaps "enemy" countries.

There shouldn't have been any tariffs on us to begin with,

Trump was the one who broke the TTP and the TTIP. Why are you so fucking retarded? If there is tariffs is because Trump chose to
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership
You retarded goy cattle are hilarious with your talking points for retards

You can do things under the jurisdiction of the various islands.

Fuck penguins faggot, your a man in a dress playing make believe. NAFTA destroyed the usa middle class by taking away manufacturing jobs that kept family's housed and fed, the usa doesn't need the world but the world needs the usa . Merica

No it’s not fully automated, it’s partially auomated - and still a shit job.

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No one's mentioned the best bit

Reminder that trump has put a 10% tariff on the Heard and McDonald islands (population - 0) and the British Indian Ocean territory (population - a single entirely American military base)

ustr.gov/issue-areas/reciprocal-tariff-calculations
You can see the calculation there. It's exactly as the guy says.

I paid for New Balance Made in UK 150 euros. And I am still wearing them after 6 years.
But the thing is Nike cant be Made in USA because they abandoned supply chain. And whole supply chain has been taken over by New Balance, Levis, Ralph Lauren, Tommy, Calvin Klein

Ask yourself..what is Cambodia, Vietnam, Bangladesh actually exporting to United States? Thats where sneakers come from, goodbye Nike haha.

I always use long hyphens if necessary.

But you're good noticer, for that post I was indeed using ChatGPT

So you think skinny thinks full of estrogen are any match for the corn bread bubbas that work the trades? Not sure it will be as easy as your fantasies paint it to be

Many of those countries don’t have any special tariffs for our stuff. He’s pretending a trade imbalance = barriers to entry, and that this is *like* a tariff. But a lot of time there is no particular barrier to entry, except that the locals are impoverished.

I hope the world cannibalizes itself
Go fuck yourself.

I actually feel embarrassed for Trump. Someone made that chart, decided the values through a freshman's understanding of international trade, and then Trump took their word for it and presented it to the public.
What an incompetent administration. I'd guess there's going to be a retraction in the next few days, blaming an aide or something like that. Or a "clarification" that the numbers are not final, only demonstrative, etc.

That depends on what 'thingy' and 'thing' are and what each of them can afford. Could you give a real life example based on actual data we have on U.S. trade?

why are we policing sea lanes for israel??????

goodbye Nike haha.

shiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeet

A tariff is basically whatever protectionist methods any country uses. If there is a trade deficit then that country is gaming the system so that their exports are winning & they make sure imports are not coming in. there will be red tape up to their armpits to make sure certain countries are hit. The EU are already crying because their shitty wine producers are being hit. The EU puts massive barriers in place so that the French, spanish, Italian, German producers are all looked after.

It's weird how for literal centuries tariff were used and yet all of a sudden because orange Mongolian Mongoose man is president again meow they're upset.

lol i just bought a pair of their new dn8’s

gigantic news!! US barely exports fucking anything except inflation, WHO KNEW!!

The UK is the perfect example of what happens when you just let imports take over, your own industry collapses (albeit trade unions, gov, management in the UK helped a lot in collapsing it all). Whole industries can be wiped out when consoooomers & greedy fuck markets look at cheap imports which then corner the market. We are basically a dumping ground for anyone that wants to sell their goods here, the EU in particular was very pleased that the UK was in the EU & of course very angry we told them to fuck off in 2016.

marxist countries make sure that countries like the US, UK are prepped for their goods whilst making sure that no goods from there can enter their own markets. The seething because Trump has put a stop to your little scam is a delight to see.

Hahahahahahh the Chinese WON, THEY WON AHHAAHAHA

Very jealous of Americans. I wish any Euro politician cared about their people half as much as Trump does. America prospers and we get sent to fight Russia.

You all had same problems we did, our leaders were without a heavy set of conjones, a tallywacker, two bits an a sausage.. Desu. Far from only case like Canada, but you all went from thatcher|not saying she was great at everything but actually seemed to care about England now you have starmer.

If there is a trade deficit then that country is gaming the system so that their exports are winning & they make sure imports are not coming in.

Not really true. If there's a deficit, very likely one country's economy simply is not competitive and doesn't have much to offer. After all, it's the consumers wallets that decide how that trade balance will look like. If they don't like your products, they won't buy. Sure tariffs and other barriers can nudge things on price, making some products more or less attractive, but they can't turn a shit product into a steal. If someone wants to buy a luxury car, we could use 1000% tariffs to force them to buy locally produced Dacia but it won't make that car a luxury one.

grocery stores make sure they can sell goods to my house whilst none of my garbage, sewage and compost can enter their stores

truly a magical scam, tariffs to the rescue!!

You are a moron, probably a panchito desu

well that is just low quality bait.

But if you are serious, please elaborate why he cares so much about his people.
What has he done to actually help them?

EU puts massive barriers

Lower tariffs than the US even before Trump's first presidency

raising prices and lowering living standards to own the libs

o.o?? Anon is a snack? Or does it mean something else too.

You want Spain to be a poor shithole without industry. You want our whole economy to be services like tourism. You're the brown immigrant here.

Fucking slaveholder, get out of here with your child sweatshop rationalising. Yes, gap will set up in America.

The pressure on premarket is huge, even now -1000 points on dja

KEK do you really think the most exploitative country in the history of mankind will fucking move their production to USA because of tariffs xDdd one worker in USA costs 20x more than one bangladesh slave. If they move production to USA it will follow mass immigration of cheap labour. You know its true and you are coping. USA corpos are literally behind every single evil thing in the world, literally every single one.

Everyone knows the Chinks (which are still considered a developing country by the IMF etc - lolz) try to corner the market, drive everyone else out & are all controlled by the state, So it isn't even just lower labour costs, it's all the other shit they do to cut corners that other countries cannot. Then they dump all their crap into the West which now consider products to be consumables & are to be thrown away even if they are supposed to last longer due to better QC. As for the EU they can't do any trade deals with anyone because you have 27 "countries" all shouting about protecting their own particular part of the market, so the cheese producers, the wine producers, farmers, whatever it is they all want others kept out of their segment. Oh they want it exported to the world tho, they want that protected.

You actually think tariffs are the only "protection" that the EU puts in place? lolz

Libfag btfo get rekt tranny 4 more years

Then there is no problem then. Who cares if that company & it's customers get a drop off in sales? They like slaves, they love shekels, they love gaming the system. Well they can learn the hard way now & try to get around being less competitive. They can keep paying some shitters to make shoddy throw away consoooomer shit.

A trade deficit means that one country is buying more goods than the other.
That is all it means.

Now there can be multiple reasons for why that is the case, but none of those can generally be applied for all cases where there is a trade deficit.

For example, lets say there is a country that is filled with natural resources but sparsely populated. They export a lot of their fossilized bird poop, oil, rare earth minerals or whatever to economies that need them.

The trade deficit is big, they are selling off billions worth of resources cheaper than anyone else can provide them but the small population means little goods are coming back, except for small amounts of canned goods and building materials.

Would it be smart for an economy to tariff the hell out of those critical resources their economy needs?

When looking at China on the other hand, yea they are doing all sorts of trickery. But that isn't something you can look at just by looking at the trade deficit.

As far as the EU goes, yes the EU has some protectionist policies going on. As well as a valid criticism of some EU regulations that make it hard to import, but the same thing can be said for US eggs for example. The EU can't export their eggs to the US because they are not processed correctly.
Another example, the EU banning chlorinated chicken meat, is that just a quality standard or something intended to keep US chickens out of the EU market. Maybe a little bit of both.

However it's obvious that these numbers posted by the Trump admin are about the trade deficit, and not about protectionism done by other countries.

Imagine you weren’t retarded, then think about it for 3 seconds. You’ll figure it out.

How come other goods made in the US are competitive but suddenly some $5 shirt is considered what should be the price to pay for it? That $5 shirt lasts a few weeks & then it's used to clean up some spilt milk

Truth is, both US and Europe needs to reindustrialize and drop the green energy scam. Photovoltaics might have some future as the materials evolve and become more efficient, but what we need right now is factories and examining locations, in order to find rare metals, natural gas and so on. Energy needs to be cheaper, so before nuclear plants are built and running, we should restart coal mines and coal plants. Europe, as a whole, contributes around 5% of that "terrible" carbon dioxide, meaning even with increased production we would produce neglible amounts compared to China, India, US or Russia. We need to stop handicapping ourselves with idiotic "green laws".

wow Anon Babble is economically retarded, who would've thought

kek we’re doomed

It's a blunt instrument to get countries to look at their own practices, who they trade with & maybe change a few things. the UK doesn't have a trade deficit wit hthe US, it's about equal trading. However the UK (and US) are importing lot's of crap & maybe if they didn't then more trade could be done, a trade deal could be done. The EU odf course can't do trade deals, they did one with Canada & a few others, but it takes that long, they have so many "members" complaining it's a hopeless task. China is another, they don't like imports that mean their shoddy goods are affected, their elites will happily pay for quality goods tho.

A little around 5 hours for the markets to open and pop like a grape
Even bitcoin is going to deflate due to etf money flowing into treasuries.
The flow will be ridiculous if nothing changes, sentiment will death spiral

The electric car as it is now is a stop gap, they want to fore ppl into it so they can then push driverless cars & then no car ownership at all. Then there is the energy sector with all the wind turbines, wave & battery storage. It's about control & they will have everyone in stackable cities where your "home" is just large enough to sleep & eat in.

Those numbers look like they were created by Musk's tiktok zoomer squad.

Sure, but then call it what it is instead of making up these numbers. Just tell American to stop buying all the low quality crap they buy and go back to buying fewer quality products that last.
However they can't do that because then they sound like the libs they have been ridiculing for 2 decades.
"guys, our consumption practices are not at all sustainable"

The reason the US is buying so many EU imports is just because the US can't produce it all domestically. "Rampant consumerism" isn't a new term.

As far as unfair or protectionist trade barrier the US has been doing just as much or more of it than the EU has with Biden even introducing quite a bit of them.

It's pretty pathetic that the Trump admin needs to pretend everyone is doing huge tariffs against the US to try and salvage public opinion for his fetish for tariffs.

that's not how it works, sweaty.

Sometimes you just have to hit em with that tariff.
youtube.com/watch?v=Ah9do8LNIjs

actually you're paying them, bryce.

kek
This can't be real, right?

The hilarious part is that this shill is most likely posting from a call center in Sri Lanka using a VPN.

so would the global economy crash if Americans stopped being retarded with their money?

Goods that are bought elsewhere means you don't produce them yourself. If you hit those goods with an import tax your country, consumers etc have 2 choices. Pay more for those goods or start to make them yourselves. the question is why did goods that were once made in a country suddenly stop being made in that country & instead they were then imported? the UK had massive shipbuilding, steel works, we had a car industry. It's all pretty much gone. Is it right that collective (((interested parties))) decided that the markets should dictate how the very culture of a nation is then borne out?

Because they were

Yes, every time the US went into a recession they pulled everyone with. How badly depends on imports and exports

equating total trade deficit as tariffs

What happened to America, really?
What really happened there?
This is beyond wildest imagination.

no turd world countries should be allowed to take advantage of the US through trade manipulation.

I support killing you leftshits in mass.

This is something I've thought for a while, that our wellbeing is actually dependent on stupid whales

The "green energy scam" is pretty much the only thing the EU can do to get energy independence. The stupidest part is that we keep buying from China, especially the "smart" inverters that connect to Chinese servers. Energy should be seen as a high risk industry.

A lot of the push-back against the "green energy" a decade ago was "but Russian gas is a lot cheaper and still not as bad" look where that got us. Now the US is pushing back against green energy because the EU is making the US a lot of money buying their LNG and other fuels.

Restarting coal will likely be more expensive than other European alternatives if the mines are already closed. On top of that it will also increase cancers that the EU will have to pay for as it's a pretty filthy source of energy.
But that doesn't take away that we need to find a way to produce our own electricity/energy.
By going electric you can eliminate a lot of the waste from moving all the oil & coal around reducing how much base energy you need to find somewhere.

My vague understanding is that US dollar is a world reserve currency and other countries send their exports to US where they print out money to pay for them. This sort of arrangement naturally leads to differences in exports and imports for the US as if by design. These tariffs shake up my fundamental belief in this arrangement.
Also different countries are in different stage of development. How can a country like Cambodia be expected to bring in nearly the same value or goods from US that they export? They might not need or even be able to afford American industrial tools for example.

Ask yourself what would happen if instead of guaranteeing global shipping, we started actively disrupting it?

You wont be able to port your ships anywhere if you do that.

What's kinda funny is in 1930 the US started a huge trade war with tariffs which contributed to causing the great recession

Tbh last time you just resold the rest of the world a lot of mortgages that were worthless. When it became clear that they were not going to be paid back the losses were spread out to allies to try reduce exposure to your own irresponsibility.

Just straight up fraud countries let slip because the US was a partner they didn't want to lose.

Dude we don't all buy cheap chinese garbage from amazon every day like some stupid fucking birdbrained goy consoomer. this is typical leftist projection.

China will be selling entire nuclear reactors to Europe within a decade and molten thorium ones within two.

The "green energy scam" is pretty much the only thing the EU can do to get energy independence.

Stupid bullshit. Estonia could be a energy exporter, but EU paid our ZOG off not to be

Where do the raw resources for US stuff come from? Where does the US buy their coffee? Where do your limes and other fruits come from? Where do you get your crude oil they process for export?
Or things like the raw aluminium metal, the copper, the nikkel. Who makes the chips and other components the US buys? Who makes the robot arms that help assemble the cars in US factories?

The tariffs will hit those products just as much as they will hit the cheap amazon crap from China you really should not be buying. If China doesn't just skirt the imports by dividing it up in separate packages to overwhelm customs.

Instead of taxing companies on the profits they are now being taxed on the imports they need to manufacture stuff. How will that grow manufacturing in the US.
The US should be rewarding companies that invest in the US, not companies that defer investments to increase profit.

Russia gets itself sanctioned, multiple times over the last couple decades, to force local manufacturing to grow

has nothing to show for it, we just buy more chinkshit for more money and import good shit around the sanctions for tripled prices

Trump effectively sanctions America, expecting local manufacturing to grow

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Impressive how someone who rose on finance can be so bad at finance.
I know a guy who actually makes something in Russia, he used to buy Japanese steel because it was high quality. After the latest stint, he had to find new suppliers, so he went around Russian steelmakers and every single one of them had an attitude of "well you don't have any other choice, so take what you're given (and a dick in the ass while you're at it)". Inconsistent, ancient metallurgy that causes warping if you look at it wrong, massively overpriced. He went with Chinese steel instead, which was lower quality than Japanese and costed him more than Japanese used to, but still cheaper and better than what Russians tried to peddle. Expect the same in the US. Quality down, prices up, more chinkshit.

Lol this is actually good news to me. I was getting worried there that they were serious about these tariffs. After this, it's clear it's just theater. Things will be back to normal by the end of the year. Phew!

Yea, asking Estonia to phase out oil is pretty stupid imo. It's going to take a while before the EU can stop using oil, might as wel produce it domestically.

That however doesn't take away that having renewable energy too is a good thing.

If there is a trade deficit then that country is gaming the system so that their exports are winning & they make sure imports are not coming in

The USA literally does the opposite of this, with the petro doller increasing the value of their currency letting them import more

We now export the shale oil. So it can burn greener somewhere else. Last i checked, tankers go to Netherlands mostly, kek. Its a hypocritical scam and nothing else.

Tbh the big signal this is sending is not "wow Trump is really serious about wanting fair trade"

its more of "he has completely lost it and the US is letting him"
He is going for maximal leverage in seemingly minor disagreements, like the Canadian border security agreement that was 90% done already.

Markets don't like unpredictability and countries will move away their dependence from the US now that it's become clear the US will use maximum leverage any time they can.

A normal person will give a trusted neighbor key to their place to check on things, if that neighbor then starts to threaten to steal your TV, rape your wife and take a shit in your cereal if they can't borrow your lawnmower it's time to change your locks.

This. Some Nations have already lowered their tariffs to match and there's already been capital investment allocated to the United States for manufacturing. . it's not that big of a deal. The media is sensationalizing it and this board is retarded. Malinvestment over the past 15 years from OECD nations is what I would really worry about

Wait so how is that a scam then?
you are still producing it and exporting it tot he EU?
What was it used for before, just burned locally to produce electricity?
if that is the case it would make sense to swap electricity production to something else and use the oil for energy that can't as easily be replaced.

That's just responsible resource management isn't it?

Even bitcoin is going to deflate due to etf money flowing into treasuries.

So Trumps master plan is working then?

We don't produce energy and fall victim to energy speculators. That makes our energy pricest highest in Europe. But we could have extremely cheap energy. Its a private company selling it, duh. Under Swiss capital now

And yet as a consumer, I can choose to buy those things that are produced domestically.

When I pay into the tariff that money goes towards Funding the government and as long as Trump keeps cutting programs the way that he’s doing Should help fix the deficit. If we can just reduce spending, we can fix the runway inflation created by Joe Biden, and this will bring down the price of goods and services you dumb, stupid motherfucking nigger who has never read a single fucking book on economics in your life

has nothing to show for it

Russia lacks the human capital for at home manufacturing which is a consequence of Russia lacking the genetic capital for producting quality human capital. Perhaps 20% of the russian population is genetically european, with the average quality being comparable to an ukrainan or romanian. America is barely better off, with 35-37% of the population being european, with half of them being crappy south europeans. I can see this genetical decay happen in Sweden too.