What's Anon Babble's verdict on Trump's tariffs? Are they good for America or not?

all the tariffs are tariffs on china because if the chinese could ship from mars they would. every country that wants to trade with america now has to do so individually. it's like a whitelist. trade with china is not about making money. the chinese use overproduction as a weapon to economically subjugate their enemies.

Chinese tariffs are not going away. Biden didn’t reverse them, both parties don’t like China. Why Apple and other countries moving production to US they realize the tariffs won’t be lifted even with a different administration. That’s only way tariffs work. But other countries tarries like with Canada and Europe will be lister the minute a new administration takes over and likely even sooner then that depending if Dems sweep the midterms because economy is in the tank

It’s a gamble but a gamble that probably had to be done. We live in a world with three options

continue as usual where we buy more and more shit from over seas, America goes more and more into debt and we head down the path towards the greatest depression in the next ten years or so. Depending on your state, go ask any 30 year old how their own family home that they own is doing, I know ZERO colleagues that have their own property excluding one or two who had their parents buy it for them.

Option two is this, but this tariff option should have happened in the 90s not now. It’s like trying to treat stage 3 cancer vs stage 1, it’s going to be more painful now

Option 3 is to essentially create a new slave caste in America and produce the same stuff at the same wages or no wages as China and the East. At the end of the day, you can’t compete with slave labor.

none of this is going away. it has to work like this to confront china or it doesn't work.

They will if the economy keeps going to shit. Only thing normie voters care about is cheap shit and making money. Biden would still be president if he didn’t have record high inflation and a shit economy. People realized how well they had it with Trump and is why he won.

Thanks to Anon Babble I actually started making my own saving me $300 a month, maybe more since I havnt bought a pack in over a year now and no idea what they cost.

We dont know yet, how ever something needs to change. Our country is not sustainable without trying to do something.

If you don’t like tariffs you’re not American
Simple as that

They’re good because they’re going to destroy the empire, not because they’re going to reindustrialize the country

I'm already getting a notice from one of my hobby stores of a price increase due to tariffs
Meanwhile I'm just indifferent because I needed an excuse to cut back anyway

They're pants-on-head retarded. Especially for the american people.

They're retarded for everybody but Trump and Friends who shorted everything before the announcements.

idk much about economics, but if they make kikes and libs seethe they must be more good than bad.

Tariffs and shit costing more

Income tax

Pick one. And no, they will never get rid of income tax

real reciprocal tariffs would have been much better, but I doubt the tariffs are here to stay in the first place. Maybe the 10% baseline tariffs, but the other tariffs certainly not. China will likely get the worst outcome overall, but no way he keeps them up at this level. It's obvious he wants to leverage the tariffs to force the Chinese to approve the sale of TikTok. Plus, some Republicans are already bitching about the tariffs like Rand Paul, others publically declare that they are merely a tool to negotiate better deals with Trump himself leaning heavily into this direction. I think it's only Navarro who keeps saying they will stick to the current tariff regime, but he has no say.

The stock market will likely spiral down a lot more over time, once stocks like Amazon, Nvidia and so on are getting really cheap, I'll start adding.

What's Anon Babble's verdict on Trump's tariffs? Are they good for America or not?

No, its a 6 trillion TAX INCREASE on the consumer, to pay for trillions in YET MORE tax cuts for billionaires, its a scam

Yes it is good according to Warren Buffett

It's a major gamble because no one wants to define "long term", any gains from this are going to take decades to materialize. In the mean time, Americans who are already broke (the majority) are about to have their already high cost of living increase even more which just leads to people giving up and not even trying. This is followed by the inevitable end of Trump's term which will be replaced by some other retard who will then drop the tariffs and no positive benefits will ever be garnered from the sacrifices made.

Seethe hooknose

If you ever read one of the greatest books ever "The Art of the Deal" by Donald Trump you would know these tariffs are good for Americans. America is going to be so rich very very soon. Things will be cheaper and better quality and American wages will go up bigly.

IT COMPUTERS

verdict

Great success.

Personally I'm hoping this will finally put American manufacturing back into America. Outsourcing everything for a cheep buck was a massive mistake

I wonder if singling out countries one at a time and bullying them into submission might have been more effective. But doing it all at once to cause people to panic and submit might work. Everybody wants to be the first one to get on his good side

Pretty much this. Trumps going to give a party with record low approval ratings power because nobody going to trust Republican with the economy. Not that Dems will do any better but won’t make blatant moves like this and tank the economy less then three months in office. They’ll do it like they always do in a more insidious way so can pass the blame onto someone else

Why would I be seething about anything? Ultimately you as the individual are being asked to sacrifice for "the greater good" of which you don't get to be a part of. Let's all hip-hip-hooray because you're going to pay extra to make America's wealthiest capitalist elite a bit better off with promises of "trickle down" benefits for you that just ends up as piss in your mouth. It's like watching Ukrainians celebrating for victory as they get loaded into vans and sent to have their limbs blown off to defend Zelensky's government and the material assets of some industry oligarchs.

Meanwhile I'm just indifferent because I needed an excuse to cut back anyway

Sounds like that's good for the economy

Super good.
They will very, very soon realize that over half of them are neither physically nor mentally able to work manual production labor 10 hour shifts 6 days a week (as is needed from them from now on in order to avoid famine) and start killing off junkies and other "undesireables".
Their jews will solidify their power for thousands of years over the goys while the rest of the world regresses to pretending they don't exist.

Exactly what they voted for and think is "winning".

We will see if layoffs happen

Pick one. And no, they will never get rid of income tax

Oh they will get rid of income tax, but only for the few dudes at the top. Everyone else shall remain as pay pigs while also incurring an exorbitant and ever increasing cost of living. Don't like, there is a jeet to take your slot.

Nobody will have it good with the Trumpenführer 2.0 except the exquisitely wealthy one percent.

death so consumerism

Yeah normies don’t think like that. All forms of national pride been stripped away by Jew ran media and education. They’ve flipped JFK’s “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country," completely around. Most people don’t give a shit about what is good for the country, but what’s good for them and their political party which replaced God as their religion

I think they are not good if mantained long term, and I don't think he will but rather they will be negotiated away.

That will take time as the death spiral of consumers spending more for basic amenities drives them to simply go with out which in turn drives down demand for products/services and a subsequent reduced demand for labor. Probably at least a year before it becomes noticeable.

Good

If our billiinaire class would stop being as goulish as possible and bring industry back, then it's a good thing. If they're just going to let America suffer while they wait Trump out, then maybe we'll at least get a chance for finally behead the Wall Street kikes once everybody is starving.

I think more people need to cut back honestly, everything is so much more expensive than they were 6 years ago

That remains to be seen. Most of the kvetching is from people who lost money in the stock market. In which case that doesn't apply to 90% of Americans.

Other than the obvious Demoshart shills, the only flags I see crying are foreign, so...

Everything I buy is less expensive, all my bills are lower, and I'm saving more money from my paycheck every week. There are already tons of new auto jobs in America meaning that my fellow Americans also have more opportunity now, and not just me.

Is this supposed to be bad? I'm supposed to be angry because Larry Sheckelberg who makes a billion dollars a month sitting on his ass doing nothing is now only making 800 million a month sitting on his ass doing nothing?

Dems take the midterms which they will

Lol

Trump should’ve made Congress impose the tariffs, they’d be longer lasting. Should’ve been straight up, approve 10% tariff on all countries, increase the China ones or I’ll just put higher ones through executive order and blame you for it

I think more people need to cut back honestly

I actually completely agree in principal. But unfortunately our perspective is still not good for "the economy" and we all have some tough times ahead. Time to learn the lessons of our ancestors.

drawing a lot of investment and manufacturing back to the US

Investment? Wut? As if that ever left the US? Everyone invests in the US stock market because other stock markets perform worse in general. Only boomers here invest into the ASX.

and manufacturing

Like what? The US has manufacturing jobs by the way, it's the second biggest manufacturer in the world. They just don't manufacture a lot of cheap and inexpensive goods though.

Half the country already doesn’t pay income tax honey

We fucked our economy so hard in the ass in 2020 especially with inflation that I honestly don't see a recovery for a while

You’re an idiot if you don’t think they will is the economy is bad. That’s how it works. Biden the idiot and all his bullshit policies still be president if he had a great economy. All normies voters care about.

A Republican Congress isn't going to pass tariffs. Trump would be better off waiting for Dems to win the midterms then negotiate it with them.

Delusional

There is no such thing as long term in a democratic system, 4 years is all you get.

Dems to win the midterms

Cope

The leaf gets it. Idk how the left can say china is an existential threat to the US and then argue these Tariffs are bad. “But muh blanket tariffs!” Yeah if he doesn’t tariff everyone they’ll just sell to countries with no tariffs that then sell to the US.

I have no idea.

He's a retarded kike that's intentionally destroying this country. The only question is how much demoralized Americans will take.

Should’ve been straight up

Which is the scary part because this implementation in it's current form is pure retarded buffoonery, it's frankly frightening to wonder what sort of conversations these idiots are having behind closed doors, and they can't resist sticking their fingers in everything.
And I am 100% on the side of measured and focused tariffs. The problem is when the idiots are so retarded they cannot comprehend what they are doing.

Don't really care. Why did we get the worst out of the entirety of Yurop though?

Why did Obogo stay president? He was credited for getting us out of the recession even if that’s total bullshit. Why’d Clinton stay President even when lied to Congress about getting a blow job in the White House? He had a great economy. Had Covid not fucked up the economy and possible election rigging, Trump would’ve won his second term.

Yeah if he doesn’t tariff everyone they’ll just sell to countries with no tariffs that then sell to the US.

That is easily mitigated through audits, Trump could have forced the +1 countries to toe the line and bear the cost. But instead Trump spat in everyone's face, driving from the starting point of a retarded premise. Good luck getting co-operation going forward.
In other words, countries will drop tariffs on your exports, but the citizenry isn't going to buy your junk on principal.

If the US government was actually serious and not a giant clown circus they wouldn't be looking at tried and failed methods like tariffs to pull things up from crashing. The whole reason China got to where it is today has been mostly reliant on removing any barriers to getting their goods out to the rest of the planet. You want something from China how much do you need to spend, like fuck all, most of the time it's free. Compare that to America, the shipping alone is often more than the cost of the goods and the service is bad with niggers breaking everything and messing up orders. China didn't build factories to sell shit to itself, it built them to sell shit to everyone else to take their money. Until America re-learns how to do business nothing will change the current path of China overtaking the West.

I'm sorry but it's true. The Republicans in Senate are beyond cucked and they will absolutely sabotage any bill the House Republicans draw up going forward because of these tariffs.

Why he should’ve tried to get it through Congress. It would’ve been more reasonable and less idiotic approach to the tariff than across the board moronic ones he imposed like putting tariffs on an island full of penguins. WTF

to getting their goods out to the rest of the planet

You mean getting them to America?

Wait, you mean the people that supported your side and against Trump?
I mean, which side are you fucking clowns on?
Either you're for the 1% or you're against them.

Congress is useless. Get over it.

every week

it's been 3 days

It will suck for everyone in the short term. I hope that it will incentivize some production here as well, and if it doesn't then I hope what this goy said will happen here too.

You made the world and your allies lose trust in you by being so abrasive and unexpected, which I hope softens your grip on us so that we can grow without you. I truly hope it goes well for you as well, but without us as vassal states. It's a sudden and bad break-up, but I wish us both well apart.

You're not my ally.

Lmao Europe is never going to “grow” unless they realize that endless regulation and gibs doesn’t foster an environment for growth.

Completely agree, could have done a 5-10% worldwide tariff and still raked in hundreds of billions, which could have been re-deployed to govt-owned factories to subsidize your own domestic production (i.e. what China does right now). That could have been done and all the other countries would have eaten it.
But no, giant tariffs of retarded magnitude with no basis in reality. All the while the orange man says "yep this makes perfect sense". The man is fucking retarded and simply can't obfuscate that fact after that liberation day speech. Just a pure utter retard.

Brown mutt thinks he know what's he's talking about

Btw here's what happened last time we let Congress "handle it"

Why you threaten them with their job security which is the only thing they care about. Agree to low reasonable tariffs or go scorch the globe with massive tariffs and blame Congress for it. They know every President that imposed tariffs like Trump”s, Republicans got destroyed in midterms and congressional elections. Republicans where shut out of the House for 60 years after the last Republican Tariff act that imposed high tariffs

Why you threaten them with their job security which is the only thing they care about.

You think these people are getting fairly elected into office for 50 years straight? What are you talking about. Congress has had an approval rating of under 10% for 20+ years yet these same people get elected year after year.

I hate to do it but... post tits or gtfo

I think he meant it was still the Trump plan, but pushing it through congress gives it legitimacy and thus lasting benefit. Rather than an orange retard standing at a podium with nonsense on a chunk of cardboard, enraging all your allies with his idiocy, who are all now looking for exit ramps, rather than simply eating a nominal "fair" tariff and moving on with life.

You just simply don't know what you're talking about in regards to the minutae of American politics. The Republicans in Congress would not pass this. Or did you miss when McConnell and his ghouls tried to block the tariffs?

They get elected by retarded states. You could be chimpanzee and get elected as long got Democrat as your party in states East and West Coast

The Republicans in Congress would not pass this. Or did you miss when McConnell and his ghouls tried to block the tariffs?

Oh what? I do not understand, if Congress doesn't want tariffs, do they have the power to reverse liberation day? I thought they were the check and balance, and I also thought Trump controls all levels of government right now and that's why he is doing whatever he wants right now?
Why is everyone freaking out if congress can just swat down tariffs?

pay extra to make America's wealthiest capitalist elite a bit better off with promises of "trickle down" benefits for you that just ends up as piss in your mout

go back to rebbit with your economically-illiterate faggotry

leeches that call themselves allies are shaking in their boots right now and I couldn't be happier about it as an American citizen and patriot

This is what democrats think of them.
youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2IOXxdDfI

Sure, you could say that, or the Western world collectively. If America's plan isn't to act as a super-conglomerate selling shit to other countries to stay in business what the fuck do they expect is going to happen other than going out of business. Tariffs are the metaphysical equivalent of a Berlin Wall that's preached as the way to stop industry drain that's going to turn things around. It won't do shit of course because America's economic system is broken at a fundamental level.

except the exquisitely wealthy one percent.

Those people are the recipients of the massive government contracts that the Biden admin was handing them while running $2T deficits.
It's obvious this is the new shill talking point being pushed, and it makes zero sense.

Yeah okay bud, just remember every time you get stiffed by tariff charges to say "Take that China!"

lose trust in you by being so abrasive and unexpected

Weird that we didn't feel the same when all of these countries imposed tariffs on us. Most people are told how to feel by the media, and I give zero shits what spews from their judiasm-addled brains

Those people are the recipients of the massive government contracts that the Biden admin was handing them

Those billionaires who are supposedly building all your shiny new factories, do you think they will want obscenly high returns on their investments and grind their slave labor into dust to get it?
Remember there are unlimited jeets coming to replace you if you complain. It happened here, it will happen there. They were watching how it played out here first.

its not 2016 anymore

You don't understand because you're an economically-illiterate faggot. Why would you care about tariffs on an island full of penguins?
You don't, you're just babbling nonsense rebbit-tier bullshit

Maybe you should be telling this to your own government and their use of tariffs.

Oh look, the kike pivots. Very expected.

fag

Why would you care about tariffs on an island full of penguins?

Because they genuinely levied tariffs on penguins, in all seriousness. Penguins.
Normally when someone does something retarded, you question their intelligence. It's not even the act of retardation itself, it's acknowledging the retardation behind the decision. What will it take to shake your undying confidence in someone who has proven their retardation.

How is this any different from Elon and his oligarch buddies getting exclusive government contracts? Military Teslas? Give me a break.

I’m cool with them, even though I’m down $100k right now, because I’m sick of what things were, and am fine seeing where things go.

Because they genuinely levied tariffs on penguins, in all seriousness. Penguins.

So much this. Take this gold, kind gentletran

non-Americans seething again. It's another good day to be an American.

The blue and yellow on black aesthetic reminded me of Grindr and the good times we had at the RNC.

My government is filled with reactionary faggot retards that only fired off retaliatory tariffs like a child kicking and screaming without any underlying purpose or objective. The tariffs America put in place are meant to actually achieve an end goal, but it's a delusional goal and will never materialize. It's been made pretty clear Trump is not the 5D chess strategist his delusional Q-tard MIGA followers continue coping and hoping he is.

You absolutely cannot break undying confidence in anything when the alternative is objectively worse to large degrees. No exceptions.

Providing one of the most important weapons systems the Pentagon has, starlink, has value. Getting a contract to house illegals on your chabad campus that gives you $15mm a year, and magically you never even house a single illegal, are two very different things.

Elon is a cutout for the Pentagon, this is a terrible comparison that just proves your ignorance of how shit works

Don't care, companies refuse to hire Americans over Indians in the tech sector and I can't afford to have a 401k or stocks.

Expect to be down even more, your cue to exit was when he was campaigning and straight up told people it was going to be hard times for awhile. Four years will come and go like last time and you'll find yourself right back to where things were before, a niggrefied goyslop state filled with people coming to terms with living out of their cars and ruled over by psychotic kikes.

in all seriousness.

You're an incredibly retarded faggot who cannot think for himself. When you read this on rebbit, did you not ask how we have a trade deficit to penguins?

this. I support them because they are bad not because they are good

He probably wanted the headline to engagement farm all the lefty news outlets. Putting a tariff on penguins is pointless, but it's also harmless since they're penguins. It communicates to his base,

Yes I am tariffing absolutely fucking everybody, even the penguins!

and gets all the lefty outlets to repeat that point,

He tariff'd everybody, even the fucking penguins! What an idiot!

All press is good press. Teflon Don is a lifelong salesman who understands that it's fine to get insulted as long as people are still talking about you. Fans and critics are both just the audience for the movie playing that has him as the main character.

delusional goal and will never materialize

Weird that a bunch of countries are freaking out and lining up to renegotiate trade deals. The US is still the world's 2nd largest manufacturer by a huge margin, and our biggest vulnerability is global supply chains. This move addresses several problems.

Imagine the insanity of this, a government putting up tariffs to punish American citizens to encourage domestic industrial growth so they can just import the same foreign people who worked in the foreign factories to work in them. The goal is to bring back the industry, not the jobs, and Americans are going to pay to do it in the same way they're made to teach foreigners to do their jobs before being fired and replaced. Absolutely cucked.

already drawing a lot of investment and manufacturing

No, it's not... The shit Trump claims is just projected revenue streams over ten years is something happens. A far cry from here are these new plants to make Widgets and here are all these higher paying Union based jobs that makes working at a factory worthwhile on some level.
All we have now is trust the plan and everything going up massive amounts of funds. Small importers being crushed out of business soon and everything about to rocket up in price. As people just had their retirement funds decimated..
we are well over a decade away from any sort of possible factor whatever and he will not be president in four and at the rate he is tanking the econ the GOP will have no power at all in two. If even that long. As people are going to riot at this rate.
I would not be shocked if his entire party turned against him if the polls smash even more into the floor. This tariff thing is one of the stupidest moves I have ever seen done on this level of scale. I've seen local moves that shit the bed but nothing this big, this bad and at the top national level.
but hey don't worry. Maybe people will be able to get those hot factory jobs at $9 per an hour in mid-west no where to help pay for stuff that is all 30% more costly than now. Oh well, at least the rich will get their tax break..

Okay... and thinking the long term effect of the tariffs is going to cause industry to just pop up again while glossing over the recessionary forces is wishful thinking. The end result is going to just be no industry for anyone because no one will have jobs and therefore no one will have money to spend to support anyone else's job. It doesn't matter if America is such a major producer, it's still completely reliant on foreign parts and sub-assemblies to produce final goods.

I don't know I'm retarded and don't understand fully what's going on all I know is that it's been a shitty situation for a very long time and now something is being tried to fix it. Hope it works

What do you suspect is the reasoning utilized by all of those countries when they put tariffs on the US? Was the US previously the only reasonable country, and now we just joined the ranks of the retards?

By that point no Dem will overturn those policies. Biden didn't overturn Trump's tariffs from his first presidency. Because they know it needs to be done, they just don't want the blame

Don't know. I hope it works and I'm glad he's trying something. Basically every economics expert is always wrong. One person predicted the 2008 crash, that's how rare it is to call economics. It's not a science, it's just a bunch of blowhards.

the libertarians and jews are against them... so they must be good for America.

The tariffs these countries had were global, not just directed at the US, Trump wants to make a case that the world is out to get America and everyone is plundering America over trade deficits. Only the most retarded cum-drinking goy would believe this horseshit and his non-sense tariff charts he showed up with. Every country that has actual high tariffs are also corrupt shithole countries, why might that be. In reality most tariffs are in place to fuck over consumers and enrich a bunch of industry with their hands in the government. Take the tariffs in Canada for shit like dairy and other farm goods, they say it's to help farmers and consumers, the only people making money are a few monopolies while the consumer pays more and the farmer has to throw product down the drain.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tariff_rate

The tariffs are taxes on US consumers and they will cause the price of imported goods to increase, Americans spastics freaked out when they had a shortage of eggs for a few weeks so you can probably expect a civil war when the chinese tariffs increase the price of plastic pool toys by $2.70.

You do understand that as the global hegemonic superpower and printer of the world's reserve currency the US is in a very different position than every other country on the planet, right?

You can buy cheap labor, resources and products from all over the world and all you have to give in return is funny jewish paper. That arrangement is massively beneficial for the US and throwing that away is just retarded.

Dude I don't care, I'm just tired of paying fucking taxes. If he wants to add 80% tarrifs on everyone and in exchange disband the IRS fucking good.
I rather pay 5 more dollars for a bag of rice than get 200 fucking dollars taken out of my paycheck.

I wanted to put up these stickers but the think tank had other ideas....

i doubt they will be good for anyone, including america

i'm prepared to admit it if this turns out brilliantly for NA, but considering Trumps business history i find it hard to have faith in him

This has potential thou...

he is a fuckin moron. 5 failed marriages , 6 bankruptcies one was a casino which was mathematically impossible. and a fuckin felon...you are a fuckin retard if you voted for this dumpster fire of a human being.
sadly because some fuckin low IQ retards in America convinced by a fuckin a half wit and a car salesman and drug addicted self promoting gas lighting piece of shit the entire world is burning. i feel sorry for anyone who was planning on retiring in the next 5 years you are fucked. fuck trump what a fuckin loser...I'm gonna pray 50 hail Marys every night until he fuckin dies. under Biden we had 9 consecutive quarters with gains in the stock market. my retirement saving increased by 54% in one year.....whoever voted for this i hope your kids die from syphilis and measles.

Weak pull out game.

good impression

I'm sorry but are you actually under the impression that you're somehow going to be paying less under the Trump Platinum Tariff Plan™? You're a paypig that's about to be beaten harder while taking a cutback to your oat rations.