The Star on the Muslim flags

I am very interested in symbols and symbolism. I am NOT muslim. Nothing in what I am about to write should be interpreted as a political or religious point, I will leave that to others who may choose to do that in this thread. My interest is purely academic you might say.

My question is the following:

Is the star on the muslim flags the star of Ishtar, which is in fact the meteorite inside the Kabba in Mecca, which fell to the earth somewhere around 2000 BC.

For reference:
The star of Ishtar:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Ishtar
The Kabba meteorite:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Stone

I feel like the time line and the geography work. I welcome answers from both Muslims and non Muslims.

Aloha snackbar

interesting, what does the moon symbolize?

Why does the South Carolina flag have this symbol?

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the Islamic name for the star is Rub el-Hizb

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rub_el_Hizb

it's basically the Star of David. the moon and star comes from Muhammed's Night Journey where he flew from Mecca to Jerusalem in a dream and prayed with Jesus and Moses meaning peace on earth with all the (abrahmic) religions. there's a chapter in the Quran called The Star which is about it and starts with

وَٱلنَّجْمِ إِذَا هَوَىٰ
By the stars when they fade away!

There are lots of debates about what exactly it means:

down}. Ibn Abi Nujayh said, on the authority of Mujahid: What is meant by the star is the Pleiades when they set at dawn. This was also narrated on the authority of Ibn Abbas and Sufyan al-Thawri. Ibn Jarir preferred this view. Al-Suddi claimed that it was Venus.
Ad-Dahhak said: {And the star when it goes down} when the devils throw it. This statement has a valid meaning.
Al-A’mash narrated on the authority of Mujahid regarding his statement: {And the star when it goes down} , meaning: the Qur’an when it is revealed. This verse is like the verse in which Allah the Almighty said: {So I swear by the positions of the stars. And indeed, it is a great oath, if you but knew. Indeed, it is a noble Qur’an, in a protected Book. None touch it except the purified. A revelation from the Lord of the worlds} [Al-Waqi’ah: 75-80]

( والنجم إذا هوى ) يعني : القرآن إذا نزل . وهذه الآية كقوله تعالى : ( فلا أقسم بمواقع النجوم وإنه لقسم لو تعلمون عظيم إنه لقرآن كريم في كتاب مكنون لا يمسه إلا المطهرون تنزيل من رب العالمين ) [ الواقعة : 75 - 80 ] .

quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/katheer/sura53-aya1.html

the palm tree is a type found in Florida. the moon crescent usually means Mary like Virginia, Carolina is named after King Charles who was Catholic. it's like an inverse of everything America is about because most people in the Carolinas are not British or Catholic or Muslim.

Carolina is named after King Charles who was Catholic.

the Spanish one, not the British one. he was Protestant.

The start represents the eternal damnation they're going to get for being a sumhuman satanic hererical false made by satan religion.

its venus which appears above the crescent moon in the west around ramadan time

Worship me, niggers!

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It's just an old Byzantine symbol that the Turks cargo culted in their Rome LARP and which thus spread to the rest of the Islamic world since the Ottomans were the hegemon there for a while.

Not true. The crescent moon and star are a symbol of the Byzantines that was adopted by the Muslims

the same shape as Shams or the sun which gives or takes life so it can be a vagina, butthole or an eye depending on the season. the crescent is a penis or finger pointing to the star in the sky.

its venus...

Oh, so Mohammad the gay prophet didn't know it's not a star?

Why do they draw it like a star?

Al-Suddi claimed that it was Venus.

Which is interesting, because that's also said to be the star of Ishtar

Check this out
(This is just a summary of what you can find on wiki)

The garden of eden is said to be between the two rivers (euphrates and Tigeris), let's assume that Adam and Eve don't go to far after they get the boot. The Kabba stone is said to have been found by Adam and embedded in his alter. The alter is lost during the flood. Abraham is said to have found the alter and plucked out the Kabba stone. Where is Abe from originally? Ur, not to far from between the rivers. All of this happens in what is modern day Iraq, which is where the cult of Ishtar comes from. Mohammed is said to have found the stone in his time (recapitulating the Abraham story) and placed in the Kabba 5 years before he ever spoke a word about islam to anyone.

This leaves us with an interesting question? How the fuck did this thing get to Mecca which 600 miles from Iraq?

Mary like Virginia,

Virginia was a reference to Queen Elizabeth the First of England, not St. Mary. Elizabeth was nicknamed "Virginia" or "the Virgin Queen" by her weird simping courtiers.

Carolina is named after King Charles who was Catholic

The Carolinas were named after King Charles the First of England, Scotland, and Ireland (picrel) who was a High Church Anglican not a Roman Catholic. He WAS murdered by Protestant fanatics (Puritans) who thought he was too close to being a Catholic/too lenient towards them, but he himself was born, lived, and died an Anglican.

This leaves us with an interesting question? How the fuck did this thing get to Mecca which 600 miles from Iraq?

there's a story in Islam that Shias stole the rock and took it Bahrain, so it will have involved the Persians. the true story is probably long buried.

Kings and Queens were often compared to biblical figures, they still are (see Trump)

isn't it the moon and venus?
ishtar/ashtar/eostre/easter is associated with venus/fertility/eggs, her equivalent is aphrodite in greece

friday is also important for ahmeds, and it's venus' day, (sat for joos, sun for jebus)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday

>Carolina is named after King Charles who was Catholic.

the Spanish one, not the British one. he was Protestant.

Carolina was not named after King Charles of Spain. It was originally named after Charles the First of England, Ireland and Scotland when he granted a patent to Sir Robert Heath, his attorney-general, to plant a colony there, however this initial colony failed to ever really get off the ground. After Charles' son Charles the Second was restored to his father's throne upon the death of Cromwell he revived the plans for the colony in memory of his murdered father.

As far as i know the official symbol of Islam is the name in Arabic of "Allah", the Star symbol was taken out of the Ottoman empire because the Ottomans saw themselves as the "Protectors of Islam" or some shit.

It was implemented by the Ottoman Empire, and due to it being so recent it's adopted by some other Islamic counties as a symbol, while others like Iran and the Saudis use other flags.
This is a type of flag used by the Abbasids when they weren't using a pure black flag.

see the flag of Alabama, some say it's the Spanish flag, some say it's the Irish one (under the English, not the current one). they are essentially the same flag, it's mixed up on purpose but that's what the moon night symbol means because at night you can't see anything.

cause it looks like one from earth

So Mohammad didn't know anything, he was just another nigger who "looked" at the moon.
What kind of a "prophet" is that?
Did he know Earth circles around the sun?

see the flag of Alabama, some say it's the Spanish flag, some say it's the Irish one (under the English, not the current one). they are essentially the same flag

even if that's true what would it have to do with who Carolina is named after?

see the flag of Alabama,

same as the flag of Florida. the South Carolina using pseudo-islamic symbolism just ties up that whole mutt trend in the South. they probably envisioned the Carolinas being the capital of some southern territory even if that didn't end up happening.

what they say it is and what it actually means to them, you or anyone else are different things. that's Islam in the nutshell.

all religions are manmade
it's all low iq cope

Crescent moon is womb, Star is Born.

Meteors cause mass psychosis in prehistoric people and shared hallucinations. Meteor lands and freaks out people who are nearby, they go look, and they see ET, but like Kuo-Toa, human belief creates reality. The entities would become real from people freaking out in fear and then be associated with sky and space. Muslim meteor is exactly this phenomenon, and Muslims face it every day and charge it up.

artemis star

what they say it is and what it actually means to them, you or anyone else are different things. that's Islam in the nutshell.

but what does Islam have to do with the name of Carolina, or for that matter with whether the flag of Alabama is based on the old Irish or Spanish flags? Ireland and Spain were both Catholic countries at the time. technically Ireland was officially Anglican but they made up like a couple % of the population. even the majority of Irish Protestants (who at their absolute peak were about a quarter of the total population) weren't Anglican, they were typically Presbyterian. Anyway what this means is that Spain was turbo-Catholic at the time and Ireland was majority Catholic with Presbyterian and Anglican minorities. No Muslims back then. No Muslims in America back then either. So what does Islam have to do with anything?

the South Carolina is clearly pseudo-islamic which is what I was originally responding to, why would they choose something like that? when you compare it to the states next to them then it makes more sense.

the South Carolina is clearly pseudo-islamic which is what I was originally responding to, why would they choose something like that?

I don't know. It could have happened organically like a coincidence (which, yes, sometimes DO actually happen), like "what will we choose for our flag? how about one of these pretty palm trees that grow all over our state? cool great! and lets stick the moon on there too, like a lovely warm southern night with the moon and palm trees, yeah that'll look nice." it could also have Freemasonic connections depending on when it was created, Freemasons love to adopt Arabist, Orientalist, Middle-Eastern style aesthetics for some reason (see Shriners) but that doesn't make them actual Muslims. They just like the way stuff from that part of the world looks and also are obsessed with esoteric nonsense about Solomon Temple and shit.

as for where they would have gotten those ideas from, probably the Barbary (Berber) wars with Morocco they had immediately after independence. Arabs would have asked them who they were and where they came from and have to explain it to them like we're doing now.

back in the early times of Islam, the only Islamic symbol was the black flag.
Ibn Abbas reported: The flag of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, was black
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1861

maybe you're right, proof and logic only goes so far. it's like this the only proof is that anon says so. if you find the book in some dusty old library the only proof is that it was in a book.

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i was just mentioning that back in the day the Islamic symbol was the black flag, nothing to do with because I said so. and as far as I am concerned, the chain of narration is authentic

symbolize

I thought that it was supposed to be from the time of Muhammad writing the Quran in that cave over there and why they celebrate Ramadan for a month after the new or crescent moon hits because that’s the phase when “the recitation” was completed, but I’m just an infidel who read an English translation back in school so an actual muzzie might give you a more definitive answer.

Also

Ishtar

That’s Mesopotamian and has 8 points.

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But why the black flag? To match the color of the kabba stone?

Anon Babble forgets muslims are simply trash nigger rapists with beards and think to deeply on their primitive sigils

why does everything need a reason?

because of women and children. they will demand a reason unless you shut them up but giving them a reason is one way to shut them up.