Why Factories Are Not Returning To The US But Stay In China

no easy solution to this
Trump is trying i'll give him credit for that but the people going bam tariffs we win are delusional

it's going to be a miserable lengthy slog

Arbeit Macht Frei

Well no matter what, they can pay for their apartments or even just their bunk beds that they get from their companies they work in, and healthcare and food are both state subsidized and cheap enough so that they can even save the low wages they get from working at the factory. I'd argue the average sneaker factory worker in China can save and accumulate more generational wealth than the average american or german for that matter, where taxes and rents and healthcare costs (for the US) are eating us alive.

don't worry OP, the muttoid shutins who have never been inside a factory their entire lives will soon come to cope.

Housing in PRC is dirty cheap, there's a reason why +90% of the people own their own place instead of paying rent.

Also, I don't get where all this story of "muh people in China are poor and slaves" come from? It's like pretending the world is froozen in 1991.

This entrepeneur actually tried to make Made in USA products

Her american vendors were in Los Angeles, meaning that they are majority americans, aka "spics and niggers". The viable manufacturing labor force in America cannot be drawn from the 400 million total, it has to be drawn from the minority that is not brown-black-mystery meat shit people. Negin here is herself one of them being an iranian, but she is not a producer, she is a distributor, a role which she can handle.

In 2017 there were about 133 million euro-americans left, with a very high average age, and half of them are bottom tier non germanics including balkan monkeys, moortugese, the original spics and italian terroni. So Americans real manufacturing potential is much much lower than it is had it been populated by 400 million swedes, norwegians, finns, germans, etc. Strangely Americans act as if the latter case is the truth.

Returning manufacturing to America will naturally boost the position of white and north east asian americans because they are the only american subpopulations capable of actually creating something. But both white and north east asian americans are in a degenerate state due to jewish subversion and rapidly shrinking in numbers. That cannot be undone on a whim, it will require entirely new, unvaxxed, uncircumcised, unpozzed generations to grow up. Returning manufacturing to America is a 20 year speed project which Trump is trying to hyperspeedrun so the deep state can box in China. Meanwhile, the chinks have a 1200 to 1400 million useable population to draw from, literally 10x the american population of euros and north east asians.

NUMBER 11 CRASH AND BURN
CHINKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
google.com/search?q=china collapse

Trump is doing the right thing on paper and it works in theory, but he's doing it at the worst possible time imaginable.
This should be done during a strong economic expansion when everyone in real terms has more money and better living conditions. For example if he did this in the mid 80s, no one would have given a shit as everyone was doing good.
Now the bottom 80% of society are increasingly fucked and those people aren't going to stomach the price increases. Also the public opinion about economy is probably the lowest it's been since the crash of 2008. They're pissed off.
On top of this Trump isn't going to be in office long enough to keep this going and people sure as fuck aren't going to vote for another guy who tries to do this.
Companies will just wait this out and keep on building factories in places like Latin-America and everywhere else that's cheap.
This is going to fuck over the US hard, possibly causing a big money rotation out of US stocks to emerging markets, causing a long slow bleed for who knows how long.

And a side note, made in China stuff is becoming pretty damn decent quality, now usually beating American products like for example tools in tests.
Who's to say that "Made in the USA" label would even be popular? You got to remember that the factory workers are going to be some of the laziest pieces of genetic garbage imaginable, who don't give a fuck about quality control, nor are they even able to hold onto any standards to begin with.

people will hire niggers for minimum wage and then blame it on "American work ethic"
perhaps allowing housing to be a speculative assest instead of just a place to live and letting insurance companies gut the healthcare system wasn't the best strategy for the American worker.
But hey fuck em, just bring in 100 million mexicans to work at walmart and pajeets to do office work. Surely there will be long term consequences of such actions that would jeopardize the country's standing as a global super power.

perhaps allowing housing to be a speculative assest instead of just a place to live and letting insurance companies gut the healthcare system wasn't the best strategy for the American worker.

What are you, a communist?

A National Socialist

that's one ugly yenta

Also, I don't get where all this story of "muh people in China are poor and slaves" come from? It's like pretending the world is froozen in 1991.

It's half cope and the other half derived from the understanding of low wages in USD terms, as well as not knowing that many chinese factories jobs come with accomodation and food for the workers, making low wages not as important. The workers essentially earn pocketmoney that wont get further deduced by personal upkeep.

earning enough to pay for kike landlord's ever increasing rent

Same with small businesses leasing spaces.

just make the doctors work for free damn it, it’s so simple!

It'd say if's more like Xi's "houses are for living" policy in China, than what NatSoc has become, a facade for all sort of basic-racism, liberalism and other mutt ideologies.

Sounds like she should have hired whites and paid them for their work instead of paying illegal Mexicans $2/hr

The workers essentially earn pocketmoney that wont get further deduced by personal upkeep.

Not really, people in PRC pays for almost everything like in any other country, it's just that things are very cheap.

If its her company why does she employ people with shit quality control and no skills?

>Shit Quality Control

>Unprofessional behavior

>No skills, literally make wrong products

>Lazy workers with zero work ethics

>Cant keep standards, too many mistakes

>Everything takes forever

>Lying and cheating

But enough about China

Wow you really love foreign slave labor. You must be a liberal.

Shit Quality Control

Unprofessional behavior

No skills, literally make wrong products

Lazy workers with zero work ethics

Cant keep standards, too many mistakes

Everything takes forever

Lying and cheating

Except for the everything takes forever part, you've just described China's manufacturing base to a T

How can you just consume obvious Chinese propaganda all day? It seems insane to me. I see tiktok and youtube channels like this all the time, and it's watched not by Chinese but by westerners. What do you get out of simping for a foreign country you have no cultural ties to?

Lol we posted in the same minute

china won
amerisharts lost
simple as

I remember arguing about weed and low sexual morals with my college friends who all came from proper families while I came from a divorce.
I told them that shit was going to ruin society. They laughed like

who are we even hurting bro

I said it will just lead to a loss of ethics and standards and loss of meaning “just her high”

I can smoke and still choose to be responsible bro

Yeah but it’s up to us not just to mind the private choices we make but consider the culture we’re promoting and defend good culture.
Of course all of Jewish propaganda for the last 100 years has specifically targeted the white ethical cultural commons so the argument made no sense to them.

I continue to argue to people like geopolitical commentators that social collapse is where things will fall apart and they hav no idea what I’m fucking talking about

How dare you say this about the US, the US is perfect, I'll pretend this is China, haha

This is how the US will end, with mutts coping as much as physically possible.

Sounds like she completely incompetent...

allamericanclothing.com/

And many more

Harvest & Mill. American made. Cruelty free. ...
MATE the Label. 1% for the planet. Circular fashion. ...
LA Relaxed. American made. Eco friendly packaging. ...
Jungmaven. American made. Made In | Los Angeles, CA. ...
The Classic T-Shirt Company. American made. ...
Outerknown. American made. ...
Big Bud Press. American made. ...
Hackwith Design House. American made.

You can “bring back manufacturing” all you fucking want. Unless you pay slave wages or have everything made by robots You're never going to compete on the world stage, Trumpanzies.

He’s still promoting the H1b shit at the same time. What a fucking joke.

kinda agree. Trump is looking at stuff purely from an economic perspective which is fine, but there are social and cultural shifts that need to happen before we can do any major manufacturing. this won't happen in his term, if ever.

Kek.
Good times.

Problem is both the debt which sustains the reserve status of the dollar and ALL boomer pensions AND the price level of stocks is held up by the high housing prices and “luxury” profit levels for basic food and services

Homie. I am an aerospace machinist. I make stuff for satellites, the Air Force and even the ISS. We craftsmen in America run laps and circles around bugmen when it comes to craftsmanship. Why do you think China has zero presence in the aerospace industry? It's cause they can't keep tolerances to save their lives. Take it or leave it, but I CNC parts for f15s ever single day. Your opinion means very little to me

Because she’s keeping too much profit for herself. she would be able to attract and retain good employees who care about keeping their jobs if she paid them more than they can get being a clerk at a store

It's not about low labors, labor makes up a small part of the costs of industry, even the more labor-intensive industries.

Imagine you have some 20 mi USD, would you try to risk it opening a small factory, dealing with regulations, taxes, playing interests and rent, with a good chance of failing. Or would you rather buy some rent apartments and collect rent, no risk, basically no taxes?

I'm a mutt, I work for a corrupt contractor... let me tell why I like to pretend I'm amaze and the Chinese are bad.

Do you work on civilian planes that fall from the sky at random, or military planes that costs x10 a better Russian alternative?

>Shit Quality Control

>Unprofessional behavior

>No skills, literally make wrong products

>Lazy workers with zero work ethics

>Cant keep standards, too many mistakes

>Everything takes forever

>Lying and cheating

that all sounds like china

trump is going to release medbed technology to fix this

I work in medical device manufacturing. I don't trust anything made in America unless it's from a company with less than 20 employees. When companies get big the employees just don't care about the future of the company or the quality of work they produce.

We have zero contracts with Boeing. Those were software issues btw, issues that emerged thanks to 3rd world, Indian liars

Is that a jew?

Democrats and corporate shills think 60yo Dorothy can go back to university and learn financial engineering after her factory gets closed and outsourced to Canabodia and she loses her job inspecting widgets to an Indian in Hamilton because Canada tariffs the shit out of US products and it’s cheaper to make them there and send them back

We have zero contracts with Boeing.

Good, Boeing, is extremely low quality, the worse of a rotten bunch.

Ok, American aerospace is very low quality

But it's because of Indians, the glorious American race can do no wrong

Now this is a cope.

misogyny

don't they literally abort females in china?
ok fuck off
this is just a communist trying to promote china

They have a higher purchasing power because their currency is pegged to the USD and they’re replaceable as fuck because they’d rather jump into suicide nets than go back to the rice fields

Bother, we lead the way in the air. I don't know what else to say to you. You can contact an aerospace engineer to confirm my statement if you'd like

I have 14 years of manufacturing experience

Business "people" are so fucking funny. They think that when they pay someone else to do something for them, it somehow gives them experience in that task. They literally have no skill or knowledge about anything other than using their money to get more money.

Basically. The only reason manufacturing left the US was the destruction of unions and greed from the financial class.

You don't get it, I believe that we are number one

And it seems not matter how many of your planes simply fall down out of sheer incompetency of American manufacturing, you'll never change your mind.

These companies care more about their shareholders than paying a decent wage that keeps employees from quitting and working in an Amazon cage, or worrying about getting fired so they have to go into an Amazon cage. What medical devices are made in America anyway?

It really does make a lot of sense that factory work has moved out of the US.
It is brutal, difficult, and still requires you paying attention and not fucking up, even if you do simple tasks, as the mistakes can potential cost you your life.

NA and EU are filled to the brim with lazy bums, and worse, they get increasing non-white and incompetent.

We will never manufacture like wage slave bug people in China who can survive through absolute brutality and low wages.
Chinese products these days are not even that cheap to make anymore, and are actually considered higher quality than other outsource locations by far.

you need people to be the same race to get anything done, when you got whites working with niggers and spics, no one gets shit done and people even try to sabotage each other, oh yeah also keep the females separate from the males- that's a pretty obvious one also. Basically liberalism forces people to become main characters, that everyone is special and to only look for themselves, never for concern for something bigger than themselves, just fake virtue signalling bullshit which not even liberal believe will work.

It's important to note that American manufacturing for consumer products has been devastated for the last 30-40 years. It has been a dying industry for so long that American politicians, media orgs, and other public figures feel comfortable saying that the remaining industry is worthless and incompetent and beyond saving. If you were a competent and capable technician, laborer, or just anybody looking to get paid, would you decide to work in an industry like that by choice? Would you do it knowing many of the most powerful people in your country would celebrate your place of work shutting down as a political victory against Drumpf?

Consumer products factories actually are full of losers and thieves who seem like they couldn't hack it anywhere else (or older skillful workers who are simply on the verge of retirement) because the outlook of the industry is so terrible. But this is because everyone else jumped ship years ago when the industry was being gutted by shareholders and private equity buyers seeking short term profits.

How many fully loaded bridges need to collapse in China, killing hundreds before you change your mind chan?

How is it? Is it worth the money? I’m a gardener and I get paid $25 cash per hour but I was looking at a machinist trainee job at Howmet Aerospace and they were paying $24.22 or something like that and you had to work overnight and all kinds of other bullshit.

my state has manufacturing at 20% of our GDP and it's fine. The US is the one of the largest manufacturer, energy producer and agriculture hubs in the world.. we're increasing our already existing manufacturing base.

Reeeeeeee, american planes are the best... how can you say they suck, i'll say chinese bridges suck... because... china le bad

If people like you had less hubris, and actually did a decent job, your planes would be reliable.

gotta crack the whip on the goyim harder and scream compete! louder. ain't no other way.

I make $35/hour in AZ. You would be paid a lot more in most other states. I will take 2-5 years to get there, but if you get into machining, you will start to notice something odd. Your boss starts sucking your dick because you are probably the only person in a one hundred miles radius that can do this job. It's a bit uncomfortable at first, your boss sucking your dick, but you get use to it

You, are annoying

It’s funny that planes only fall out of the sky when they’re piloted by shitskins

Why wouldn't her dad open the factory for her in their native country of israel?

Kek
Nice

Reeeeeeee, I'll ignore you

Do it, just like you ignore the reality of how low quality American aerospace is today.

Low competency of American pilots sure play a part in planes falling so often.

American products are shit. They're constantly beat by Chinese products in tests, shit cars too.

Excuse me, saar. You forgot the trannies, druggies, and felons who apply in waves. And the H1b 'jeet.
We've had workers fresh out of prison who live in halfway houses. Not even joking. A number of them have been "on programs", which I guess is how they refer to court-ordered restitution and probation.
Kind of sad when they suffer a drug relapse at work and have to be fired. Or get ordered to take a drug test and just walk out because they know they won't pass. And then the person who was getting a ride to work from them quits too.

Too bad the financial system in America is totally broken. From an engineering point of view your work needs a system of economizing resources to you among all other possible uses on the economy, such that resources go to where value is being created. That’s broken, so your skills are as worthless as a jeep in a land without gasoline

Oh it's actually easy. Just allow companies to hire only white men without them getting sued to oblivion and see how quickly the quality will improve

fuck foreigners

we care for the american worker

american worker explains why she moved the industry to china

it doesnt count!

like id trust that jewess. sounds like she had one bad experience and now she wants to project that onto all americans. as if that applies to everyone the same... (it doesnt)

as if they're going to gaslight everyone into believe China makes high quality products... riiiight

Now this is important! Do not settle for an operator position, insist on becoming a setup guy! That's the exact terminology, a setup guy. Operators push buttons, setup guys craft parts. You will never make money just operating. Demand to be shown setup

thank you for your brilliant insight captain sweden

Don't forget "the bad things she says about the US are actually about China"

Third positionism holds that housing should be an interest of the state. Natsoc, fascism, and Strasserism are against rent seeking, especially by racial and foreign enemies.
This is all it really is. Make hiring discrimination legal and you'll quickly outcompete literal slaves. Of course, that means the domestic retards get fucked, but that is ultimately a good thing.
This model of employment is not sustainable though. Chinese, along with the rest of developed world's, birth rates are collapsing everywhere. The idea that labor will always be cheap is a lie. The latter half of this century will see the human population shrink massively, especially in east Asia and Europe.
Yes, but this is at the expense of the younger generations ability to live. Eventually there was going to be a limit at which people would tolerate a decline in quality of living. The decline in American wages and the middle class as a whole began precisely when offshoring began as a business strategy in the mid-70s and accelerated after 2008. The other major cultural problem we have is an over abundance of single mothers. These familial types typically produce worse human beings than normal couples and single fathers.
The Russians still build engines for the Chinese since Chinese factories are still not able to keep tolerances. COMAC is a joke compared to western and even Russian planes like the MC-21. And as much as I like Russia, lets not talk about their civilian aircraft.

oh look another false generalization shared online. shut the fuck up already. "most people don't want to work" whatk ind of asinine statement is that? so most chinese people are enthusiastic and overjoyed by working in factories? the fuck are you getting at?

i see hardworking people all the time in America. its what made it into the nation it is you godzilla sized jackass.

are you suggesting we NEED China or that they are better than us and we are better off following them?

Homie. I can make anything with anything. I can make an arc reactor from a pipe of scraps, in a cave. I will never be irrelevant, plus I use to be a sous chef when I was younger and I've welded professionally before. I think I'll be fine

Chinese communism isn't what you think it is. They don't get any of the benefits Marx spoke of but they get all the political control and consequences of it.

They can't seem to make aircraft screws for example. I know they can't make neutron tools and neither can Russia so they import them all from Halliburton or Schlumberger. In Russia prior to the war the entire oil and gas industry ran on engineers and geologists subcontracted from American companies, then they all pulled out because they wouldn't make enough profit with the new regs.

shopnoctex.com

These are the products in question. A bunch of really ugly clothes that you can tell from the photos are made of extremely low quality materials.

And you think China gives a shit?!

Ok but here is number one reason. In 4 yeras all these tarffis will be gone. Why invest so much cash in building in america when everything will change in 4 years?

This is one reason why fascism is superior to democracy. Stability.

what kind of malnourished alien is this

I don't think Trump will manage to calm down and keep the tariffs for his whole mandate. 4 years is guessing too high.

The tariffs will be gone before the end of the year.
Trump is just using them as a power move.

entrepeneur

So in other words she contracted a factory to make custom products for her.

Have you never seen a Gypsy half-breed

medical device manufacturing

It's all scam, you guys sell like $20 worth of materials for $50k and claim it's due to being high tech or whatever, when anyone with a brain can see how it's designed and anyone with electronics and CAD knowledge can mimic it.
t. used to do research for this exact thing

Complains about US workers

they're actually illegal alien workers

I can't pay workers $2/hr.

my competition can because there are no tariffs

Thanks Trump.

Also

I suffered through running a factory in the US for 13 years while everyone else was getting rich outsourcing

I got assblasted by my competition because there were no tariffs

both of the major political parties finally started talking about putting in huge tariffs

I thought now would be a great time to move my factory to China

let me gaslight the workers on the way out for no reason at all

LOL how come nobody ever blames the owners for anything? Like what an absolute dumbass. So you decided to not outsource while everyone was outsourcing for 40 years. Then right as outsourcing finally dries up, you decide to FOMO and move to China. Fucking retard.

There is no sugar coating this. Its just straight up bad decision making and your job is to make decisions. This is who's in charge? This is who gets to make big decisions? Its pathetic how stupid and consistently wrong these people are. If a McDonalds worker made decisions this bad, they would be fired.

Based gothmommy.

I make $35/hour

dogshit money

The name Negin has Persian origins and is derived from the Persian words for a precious stone or gem

She sets off my Jewdar
But she's pretty much correct about everything she's saying

this is a kike and it's lying through it's fucking teeth, which should be kicked in

This. She has to understand the more you pay the better the product. You hire people for minimum wage, you get minimum effort. You invest in a worker and give then good pay and take care of them, they will make good quality products. And it depends on what kind of workers they are.

K

Can't keep standards

Yeah. Nothing says standards like a country full of people who take pride in not just getting away with cutting corners but how long they can pull it off. Any claim that China isn't a bucket of shit to deal with for production is either lying, just started dealing with them or pays zero fucking attention to the product they import.

average cost of an apartment in a major us city is 2k, thats 24,000 a year, you make 70,000, at that wage you can't even sing the lease for the standard 3x income requirement, america is so fucked. You basically make around 7 dollars an hour in 2006.

The actual issue is what if companies spend the next 3 1/2 years building and investing in domestic factories and then the next administration just rolls back the tariffs and they get btfo by big domestic overheads + operating costs while new businesses just go to s global integrated supply chain like they were originally and kick em out the market?

The only industry this protectionism actually makes sense for is semiconductors due to Taiwan's political situation and the relation to military technology specifically.

K

Sorry to burst your bubble but a truly skilled machinist in aerospace should be making double or triple what you get

You get another 2008. Same thing happened then too. Sure the short term is great, but it collapses when the jumps levels out.

Also, that's 70k before overtime, which I can work as much or as little as I'd like, my shop is particularly laid back

Makes it a bit better, time and a half?

Homie, I'm a young man. I have 5 years of experience. In 5-10 more years I will be make double what I make now, bet

American production standards have been shit for like 50-60 years now.
Watch Dominion and see how your American food is handled.
This nigga found a rat head in his can of all American green beans:

old.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/1h20fmk/opened_a_can_of_target_green_beans_and_found_some/

Enjoying your Kellogg's Rice Krispies?
Your child is literally eating black person piss:

youtube.com/watch?v=KS-KZMW3Z5o

And this is only one of the cases they caught, even slightly smarter people aren't going to share their videos of foot lettuce and food tampering any more.
This is what happens when the social contract is broken, the social fabric torn, and your society is collapsing in free fall.
If you live in the United States and you aren't cooking your own food by now it's too late.

Is it just me, or does she not look very trustworthy?

Yes sir

lol, you're just going to pay the tariffs and keep importing Chinese goods because there are no alternatives.

She's a foid. She doesn't hire anybody except a few female friends. Then she calls a third party vendor to do her work who doesn't give a shit about her because she's small time and is one of literally 8000 customers they have. She expects special treatment because "muh startup company makes the very BEST blouses all MADE IN AMERICA" but the account rep sees digits and the number of complaints she's filed and wants to get on to the next customer ASAP. He has a monthly or annual allowance for giving shit away and only wants to use it for important customers making big deals. Her shitty little clothing shop on Etsy means fuck all to him because he's got a spreadsheet in front of him and sees her annual orders and the profit margins as they speak.

This entrepeneur

A term for a wannabe Jew. A fucking con artist who moved her production to China to exploit sweatshop workers for more profit.

>And a side note, made in China stuff is becoming pretty damn decent quality, now usually beating American products like for example tools in tests.

The American stuff is all made in China, too, nowadays
Wouldn't be shocked if there is some minor sabotage (to go with obvious IP theft)

No shit the country is 30% white now

here’s why:

I make more money

Shits about to change, sweetheart

Even worse, they just sell pre-made products that they sell to other people. Her stuff probably isn't original.

I make a purchase from China maybe twice a year.

Thats a lie, my shithole got a special 0% tariffs on coopers and shit like that because Usa is making factories again, but yes, the real problem is the americano, a lazy drug addict used to everything for free because his ancestor robbed it from every corner of the world, they are suffering the same destiny italian suffered centuries ago or what venezuelans are suffering right now, next will be arabs, prosperity is a trap.

they are suffering the same destiny italian suffered centuries ago

ROME
IS
FALLING

Still voting trump

If you buy anything in America or elsewhere you're buying products made directly or indirectly with Chinese components. Those tariffs are getting rolled into the price and you're going to pay for it whether you like it or not.

Also Venecia and city states like that, again, prosperity is a trap.

prosperity is a trap

It seems that way, it has a way of destroying people, doesnt it?

Shit Quality Control

moves plant to China

lol

What Chinese components are in my steak?
In my bourbon?

We aren’t all turbofags with a funkopop collection and an addiction to cheap electronic Knick knacks.

It is likely just chinese propaganda, but great points

This entrepeneur actually tried to make Made in USA products for 13 years

For some reason I suspect this "entrepreneur" was attempting to turn a profit on a ridiculous timeline with no concern for the long-term well-being of the product, market, or labor. They try to get by on the bare minimum only to start scraping the bottom. Whoops, I can't communicate QC and productivity concerns anymore because I hired more foreign workers solely to stagnate wages for another year. Where did qualified labor go when I haven't raised wages alongside inflation or profit for years? Why don't you understand I need to show everyone number go up so I can cash-out to Big Corporate and fuck off?

the great cope for people who have never seen a factory from inside.

American cars are famous for being shit here in Germany. No wonder, the US has lost every ounce of competence.

the most kike face ever

she looks like my ex girlfriend if somebody cracked her in the face with an aluminum baseball bat

youtube.com/watch?v=efyrzAewjz8

es.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-herramientas-ganaderia.html

hire a bunch of niggers to work in a factory

surprised they make worse slaves than bug people

the economy is built out of steak and bourbon

Watching over-confident Americans get burned in the next few years is going to be entertaining to watch in the same way you might laugh at burger flippers demanding higher minimum wage and then predictably losing their jobs and crying.

So much this.

Moral decay is what destroyed the West, not China or India or Vietnam or off-shore location of the year.

The moment the Western man was focussed on anti-social behavior, "GTA culture" and hedonism, we have lost.

youtube.com/watch?v=F5kqh5-FoSA

"Personally, I blame MTV" has become my go-to reasoning as for why we are dying.

It hasnt been this way since forever kek.

Want something made to spec at the shortest time possible? Go China.
Want something made not to spec, with faults and 50% rejection rate and factory boss trying to weasel their way out? Try India, or apparently the US.

No, Americans are just delusional when it comes to business. At my job I can send a circuit board design to China to run samples and get it in my hands 5 business days later for $100 and it meets all specs. Get a quote from American manufacturers, for the same they want $4000.

China is also communist and has the most self-made female millionaires in the world. Female factory owners and businesswomen who are the CEOs of their company are not rare there, unlike here.

I imagine with all the processed food in America they just pay a nigger to comply with diversity quotas to stand at the end of the assembly line and flop his dick on every piece of "food" that passes by.

That's a desert demon.
Anecdote discarded.

Fucking idiot. Im an aerospace machinist. Read the rest of the thread before commenting retard

Yeah but it’s up to us not just to mind the private choices we make but consider the culture we’re promoting and defend good culture.

Based, the nihilism of abortion is the same thing and I argue against abortion for the same reasons. We might not have gotten into this shitty position if women were having kids here instead of substituting millions of illegals and depressing factory wages in the first place.

Beyond that it is just another pillar of 'who are we even hurting bro' rootless nihilism. Americans having no responsible attitudes etc, which feeds back into no work ethic, thinking they're above factory work etc.

I don't trust everything in the op video either as she spun into typical leftoid saws like my soggy kneeds midstream and muh healthcare in the final quarter either. It could be American factories didn't want to work with her because she started pushing leftoid karen issues at them.

thats amazing really. If you know manufacturing, a less than 50% yield on a line is horrible. I would like to see this casing "factory", me thinks its made of huts and sand casting the metal. This is all assuming they are even meeting yield quotas to begin with.
You can bang out 4 knives in your shed with a hammer and achieve above a %50 rate.
I've never worked around or near a indian factory but from what I hear its just their ethic like that pic says. They will work for a paycheck or two think they are a success and quit. Forcing the factory floor to revolving door hire, retrain and cycle again. No one stays there long enough to even say "hey, this mold is crap". Kek, not even worthy of being slaves.

I'd be willing to bet something like PCBWay could do anything you could do and more at a fraction of the price at equivalent quality. It's so incredibly over by every metric.

Whenever I see posts like this, I’m reminded that I share this board mostly with NEETs who have no life experience and don’t even pay their own bills yet still act like they’re experts on everything

That's the thing with corporations. They always run extremely inefficiently because neither the employer nor the employee cares about the others' wellbeing. Employees are just an easily replaceable cog in the machine that need to be "managed" by HR. You also can't allow them to build camaraderie and care about eachothers feelings because then they might form unions, and you've also gotta hire based on diversity and not talent, merit, or cohesion.

The dysfunction is baked in, but it's salvageable.

WELP. LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING WITH PLAN B.

that's not true chinks are subhuman bug people we are the ubermensch

Healthcare is not free in china you fucking moron. You pay cash up front or dont get treated

If they could, they already would. It's not like China isn't trying to get into aerospace. But, up until this point, nobody wants to buy what they are selling. So bet all you'd like my friend!

No they will, youre just retarded. Stay poor.

That is a jewish woman

two more weeks bro

Yeah it's workers don't want to work and government gives them too much money, it's not kikes squeezing every penny out of a dying empire

tattoos

black eyes and hair

woman

opinion discarded

NEXT!

prosperity is a trap

it really boils down to this isn't it?

We want the factories back but won't work ourselves to death like chinks do

I don't know man, I bought stuff from them recently, I was taken back by how good it was. It's like laser precise, completely perfect. Trying to get that done here would costs thousands for the same part.

Why Factories Are Not Returning To The US But Stay In China

Niggers

Niggers

Niggers

You can joke about it but it's pretty evident the US is sliding into another 2008 repeat. There's no positive indicators of anything good coming down the line.

Shrimple as, China Ftw. I need to start learning mandarin.

And as bad as 'jeet stuff is right now, in a few decades they'll start to get the hang of things.
Then we'll have two Chinas to contend with.
The retards in charge are panicking because the genius idea they had over 50 years ago of outsourcing everything for fast profits has come home to roost.
If all we get is 2008 again, you can expect another 2008 in repeating cycles closer and closer together until we are perpetually in 2008.
I expect much worse.

If all we get is 2008 again, you can expect another 2008 in repeating cycles closer and closer together until we are perpetually in 2008.

Isn't this the natural consequence of saving the banks and corporations, giving the current system some borrowed time? You just throw the can down the road.

You can pay a living wage in the west if your exports are higher than imports and you don't have an out of this world level of remittances due to immigrant labor

god dang that an ugly ass jewess

I've seen those videos of "manufacturing" in India on youtube, it's a mess, a big fat mess. Casting iron while they are walking on sandals, no respect for the product, incredibly messy workplaces and no respect for power tools so losing fingers and limbs is probably a common occurrence.

It's insanity.

Because you have a strong economy with high velocity rather than just bleeding gdp so your internal real growth is dogshit.

Uhhhhhhhh, in aerospace, "laser cut" is a nice start. Without you being in the industry, it's hard to describe what real precision looks like. It's kinda like that scene in Goodwill hunting were that faggy math professor has a cry and is all like "there's only a handful of people that can tell the difference between you and me"

Americans will hire pajeets to reduce labor costs in US factories. Simple as.

Isn't remittances only around 85 bi/year in the US, the highest?

Jeets are genetically mentally deficient, I just can't picture them being anything more than street shitters. They've been developing in parallel with China this whole time, all they've managed to produce are piles of shit and garbage with the odd corpse littered amongst the waste.

Literally no one wants to work. Finding meaning in a job is literal cope when you know deep down that you'd rather be doing anything else.

losing fingers and limbs is probably a common occurrence

the company save like $5/year who cares about a severed finger here and there.

in a few decades they'll start to get the hang of things.

No, they won't. They have like an 84 average IQ
Dumber than the American Nigger Ape

It's just a figure of speech. The precision of the parts is amazing, the fact that they can make something like that for just a general purpose use does not bode well for the future of any sort of Western manufacturing staying in business. China has already demonstrated it can manufacture domestic fighter jets and engines so they've already surpassed any technological barriers that were previously holding them back and I'm not seeing any reason why that wouldn't be the case.

negin

either she is jewish or some kind persian either way she is a retard

My experience of made in America things:

Highly engineered products, hyper-engineered in fact, but sometimes with shoddy workmanship. And very expensive for what they are, at least here.

they're only expensive because the dollar is the reserve currency and over demanded and thus expensive
but if the US gives that up they can't fund their giant bloated military anymore
don't know how they get out of it

You're just a traitor to your people and a tumor to be excised from the community. Most psychopaths have the sense to hide.

They dont have the problem of "livable wages" that prevents the US people

95% of America's "livable wage" issue is just making enough money to get away from black people.

Didn't read. Just pointing out that woman looks soulless

We need open source robotics. Every major town and up should have a free/rentable manufacturing nexus. This is the next stage of American (but the rest of the world, too) independence. We need to make sure that NOBODY has to put up with this shit anymore. The only thing that should need to be transported are raw materials; and if it can't be imported it should be easily grown in our backyards.

youtu.be/RV2z6s-JnQY?si=ut-Rvz6yTaM7XSl_

Fuck off with this and learn to do business. No one's shelling out thousands more for equivalent quality products because it's the patriotic thing to do. Give a reasonable price or eat shit, that's how we do things in a normal market place. $4000 to do a few hours work, get fucking bent.

jewish supremacist retarded kvetches

Many such cases

in a few decades they'll start to get the hang of things.

Chinks live likes slaves you stupid turk

be the CAD designer

you can make ~110k as a machinist in boeng with 5 years of experience

You can hold tolerances of around .01 or ten-ten thousands of an inch and it will, for all intends and purposes, seem perfect to the human eye and feel perfect to touch. Aerospace is held at roughly .0001 or one-one thousands of an inch, a size that is a fraction of a human hair. So far, to this point in time, China, by and large (not saying there are no exceptions) is unable to produce this level of precision at a mass scale. Again, not saying they can't do it on a smaller scale. They obviously do because they have a fully functioning air force

I am aware. I have a good thing going here at the moment. This company is growing and I am employee number 3 (the third employee ever hired at this company). I have a shop key and code, make my own hours and have had several talks about being the shop floor manager when we eventually start hiring grunts. So why mess that up

WAR WITH CHINA IMMINENT

America is not a white country. Non white countries don't produce, they just consume.

Fuck off AI

Plus this company took a chance on me, let me move from structural/general machining and into aerospace (a whole different ballpark). I kinda own them

Chinktok

get that shit out of here glowie

I don't think it was the precision that was holding them back though. I mean even Russia could make jet engines decades ago and they aren't exactly known for their impeccable precision. Thousands of an inch you can read on a standard dial caliper, it isn't that extreme. More likely what they had issue with was forming the super-alloy blades into microscopically defect free mono-crystalline metal. This is difficult because you can't just measure if the final product formed properly once solidified, you have to have the process down so that you have faith in it working.

ahh ok, thats good? do you do CNC machines as well?

110k is nothing anymore, know-nothing jeets make 160k telling people "turn off the computer and try again"

Production takes some time to reach large scale, China does produce good turbines, but not enough numbers.

Give it 2 -3 years.

This entrepeneur actually tried to make Made in USA products for 13 years only to get fed up with the bullshit people and ended up setting shop in China:

You mean the jewess with the giant nose and uneven face indicative of genetic mutation couldn't get slave labor and make enough profit so she went to bugland where they have infinite slaves?
Seriously, her eyes are on two different levels and it is to the point of distraction.

tried for 13 years

Yeah right. If things were genuinely that difficult, I would have left after two, max. Instead, we're supposed to believe this jewess - who is completely trustworthy and would never, ever lie in order to advance a political narrative - stuck around for over a decade.
Kikes gonna kike

All of these excuses are indicative of not putting any effort into training your workers and most of all training your HR to filter out the wrong people. Entirely her fault.

The United States was basically treated like India or Brazil to the rest of the world before WW2. We're just returning to our roots. That's what it means to make America great again.

She is iranian, has the farvahar on her arm, how old are you?

oh, you don’t spend your money on funcopops, anime pillows, and tamagotchis?

you must be a child

Nah, they don't need to sabotage, they just undercut. Proven business tactic. Some of the mfg complaints are how you can get various raw materials from China for many cents cheaper per unit, and that fucks over American material suppliers.

No need to fuck with the iPhone factory line. Do that enough and companies will assess the cost risk of China being cunts and leave if that risk means USA made is cheaper.

Sorry, .0001 is one-ten thousands of an inch and .01 is ten-one thousands of an inch. I messed those up.
.0001 is incredible difficult to achieve consistently. It takes some pretty masterful knowledge to keep deflection down that low, again a lot to go over if you are not in the industry
Mono-crytsalline metals are not hard to produce, just the proper heat level, time and magnetism. Lol buddy, everything coming out of this shop is checked for microscopic defects, some of the stuff is assembled in a clean room

Iranian

Who cares?
Both kikes and musloids regard me and mine as subhuman - one calls us 'infidel' the other calls us 'goyim'
Both have formal, sanctioned policies of "holy lying" intended to exploit and deceive me and mine

She has this barf-speak sand nigger thing on her arm

And?
We have caught musloids crossing the southern border sporting fresh Christian iconography/tattoos and wearing Christian crucifixes - the better to infiltrate into the US
What she has on her arm doesn't mean a fucking thing

How old are you?

Old enough to know that seeing something shown on CCP owned and controlled Chinktok is suspect by default and if a semitic female is saying something, then there is almost a 1:1 chance it is a lie

Weak men make weak times. And we've had weak men for over a century working tirelessly to make weak times.

same shit different sand nigger stink. should not be here regardless.

do you retards think chinese doctors work for free?

notice that khaled said NOTHING about palestine after he got super rich

You can pay a living wage in the west if your exports are higher than imports

Yes, that's a no-brainer. Unless your country issues the worlds reserve currency, your economy either needs to be a resource exporter or import resources and manufacture goods to be able to earn more from trade than spend on it. The issue with America is that American society believes its outsized living standard is the result of American ingenuity and labor and not subsidized by the labor and ingenuity of the rest of the world via the petrodollar ponzy scheme. It's going to be a rough awakening for America when the world finds other markets.

And as bad as 'jeet stuff is right now, in a few decades they'll start to get the hang of things.

WE CAN'T MAKE THEM POO IN THE LOO.

The fuck makes you think they are improving themselves if we can't get them to shit in a toilet? People LITERALLY went in and installed toilets for them. Worshiped them instead of pooping there. You can't fix dumb like that. At least Africans can use the wells and shit we build for them, they just can't maintain any of it.

I just wouldn't buy her high priced product? This confuses people. that's the point you don't have to buy her shit if she tries to pass the cost off to you.

Something about that nose tells me her reasons for outsourcing was just an excuse.

china

free, abundant food

Oh fuck off you disingenuous worm.

You said the same thing about household appliances, about steel, about consumer electronics and about EV.

Because she’s keeping too much profit for herself. she would be able to attract and retain good employees who care about keeping their jobs if she paid them more than they can get being a clerk at a store

She isn't doing any manufacturing - she is a middleman who buys from the factory and sells to individuals.

She has the farvahar, she isnt muslim, how old are you?

Worked for a chemical plant years ago. Used to buy switchgewr from China becuase purchasing would break your arm if you didn't try to save a penny. 99% they came in fucked up. Had one with no fucming bus bar in it. Called them up and asked where the fuck it was and some chink retard said I buy that separate. it was banned soon after to buy from them as the products were trash.

At least Africans can use the wells and shit we build for them, they just can't maintain any of it.

Not so fast, hoss
Bunch of do-gooders go into Africa and do shit like dig wells and teach them how to farm, animal husbandry, etc?
Come back in a year - they've eaten all the seeds, sold the tools and equipment off and are using the well as an open latrine
Dysentery rampant.
Do not underestimate the stupid of niggers

how old are you?

Ha, they will find out exactly what that produces just like coders did:
1. Shitty work product gets made
2. SAAR, NOT MY FAULT SAAR
3. Forgive to not be racist
4. More jeets get hired because cheap and business manager is retarded - gotta save money to account for jeet losses with more jeets!
5. Now entire factory product bad
6. Customers irate, returning product
7. Factory bankrupt now
8. Everyone loses job

Rinse and repeat for next American business.

here is a picture of mohommed fucking a goat, exactly like your stupid koran says you people do. go home.

none of your fucking business, sand nigger. go home.

I know a guy that worked in an american Volkswagen manufacturing factory and the stories he has told me are outrageous. The things they got away with when you're about to spend that amount of money should be criminal.

I am not muslim you silly shitjeet

Those were consciously moved over to Asia for the benefit of the board of directors. Nobody on earth would chose a modern fridge over a brand spanking new one build like it was in America, in the 50's. Infact, I once saw a fully working 50's fridge on an advertisement for a house as a selling point

American cars are famous for being shit here in Germany.

Might have something to do with them being manufactured in mexico with the intent of constant maintenance for the last 30 years.

ok but enough about chinese factories

Imagine actually believing any of this

she has a harkaafuckarucka

I don't fucking care.
Do you not understand this?
You remind me of the AntiFa simpletons

We're the good guys!

We're ANTI FASCISTS!

See? it's right there in the name!

Only with you it's

Oh, she's legitimate because she has a fahruckafuckasucka on her arm

....
This is self-licking ice cream cone levels of fucking stupidity, incompetence and retardation
It's on CHINKTOK
The CHINKS are pissed off because of tariffs.
So, they get a shill to relate some sob story and we get (You)s simping for the mutt they got

You are indian

LOL yeah okay faggot
Simp harder for the Chinks and your pet muttloid

None of those are true though

I'd believe it, since our factories are full of niggers and mexicans now.

Be greed mutt

Buy the cheapest of the cheapest China sells

WTF, quality is bad

Yeah

Why do we want to bring this back to the US?

I for one think it's hilarious that the jewish bots start to spam each time the jew is exposed for his jewishness

Kek

Fuck off cheng, America fucking rocks and China fucking blows. Get over it

(edited) 50% of married couples live in their parents' houses and they call that "homeownership." It's an ugly system over there, and they twist it to save face.

jewish anti-China propaganda

Lel. She's going to be so surprised when she finds all the same bullshit in china, except worse. It's like competetive kikery over there.
t. Supply chain management

lmao

outsource makes me a genius

I can see her nose guy

Why do you feel like lying? Don't you know that plain lies like this only harm what you're trying to do in the long run?

I love this chink cope.

you get bad product from us?

is because you cheap!

expect to get scammed and ripped off unless you pay more than you would for US produced goods

Chinks can't into high trust societies, because they are somehow worse than jews.

Jewish..anti China..... propaganda???? What anon? Qrd?

Nothing says standards like a country full of people who take pride in not just getting away with cutting corners but how long they can pull it off.

Chinese "Chabuduo" is very similar to american "value engineering". The difference is that it is not considered a good thing in China.

It's a cope, China is low trust, the US is high trust

First, I don't think anyone but some mutts trying to boast would call the US high trust, it's a pool of jews and jew-like people trying to scam on every move.

Second, you guys go to a store, buy the cheapest Coke knock-off because it's 20 cents cheaper, and then cry about how the store is bad.

You got through school, not that impressive. How often do you have to use a computer and documentation to make a diagnosis? What makes most doctors so great when they're just as incapable as kids that are using ai to write school essays? Rhetorical questions

Also, you have a meme flag and I have a proud as fuck American flag. Kike

4:35

h is abolutly correct.
Txtile manufacturing in China has become robot assisted.

The quality is 99,9999999 consistent.

That looks like a cozy textile mill not a “sweatshop”.

I love that you don't even try to deny it. West Taiwan is just a wasteland filled with thieves and scammers at every level. A contract means nothing to bugs like this.

You did not watch the video

defect free mono-crystalline metals are not hard to produce

There's like a concert hall full of aerospace and material engineers and scientists staring you down at what an incredibly retarded statement that is. The precision in cutting is a minor detail relative to getting the metals pure of contaminants and ensuring the elimination of undetectable internal defects in the metal crystal lattice that can form into internal crack defects that blow an engine apart without warning. It's not just looking at the surface of the material and keeping it clean. The metal blades undergo intense mechanical stresses at high temperatures, the material science involved in getting something you can trust to work way overshadows anything else in terms of complexity. Precision at .0001" critical for things like thrust bearings isn't nearly as big a deal as you think it is.

Shit Quality Control

Unprofessional behavior

No skills, literally make wrong products

Lazy workers with zero work ethics

Cant keep standards, too many mistakes

Everything takes forever

Lying and cheating

Literally China

Modern American style fridges are absolute bullshit. Who the fuck needs a double wide fridge with integrated iced soda dispenser? Who needs the door to be a flatscreen that shows you a list of what is in the fridge? And why would you want your fridge to be connected to the internet? All of that for the low price of several thousand Brousouf.

Luckily we can still buy old school fridges without issue.

Shit Quality Control

Unprofessional behavior

No skills, literally make wrong products

Lazy workers with zero work ethics

Cant keep standards, too many mistakes

Everything takes forever

Lying and cheating

and in America?

it is hard and the machining is hard. I got carried away have my little argument. I agree the statement was retard and I retract it

The worst part about American style fridges is that they occupy more external space while having less internal space

Yes, if you buy cheap you get cheap. You can pay more on China and actually get things that are good. Americans don't know about this because they only know cheap.

Modern "American" fridges are made in China. Anon was qualifying my statement that old school American made fridges are the best

remeber that the average factory worker in america is not some midwestern white.. you know who it is

Chinese textile is highest quality in the world

be jewess roastie kike

stRt a brand using stolen whites’ money

slander white americans

spread anti-american propaganda

Thanks for your post chaim, is there anything else you’d like to add?

lmao, ching chong

Muh numbah one

Lol
Retard
Did you ever even bought from China?

I'm talking about the (two door) style, not quality

the American golems got triggered by you writing the c-word, but in reality this has nothing to do with communism. it's literally how Germany became an industrial nation more than 100 years ago. who would have thought that higher cost of living translates to higher production costs...

tiktok bitch gives anecdotal reason for moving to china to sell her slut clothing line

Well, I guess that settles it Hans. By the way, enjoy your continued industrialization.

They are fucking dumb. What happened to the over under design? Did anybody have a problem with it?

old school American made fridges are the best

They're nothing special in function and can -apart from their 50s looks- be easily replaced today.

Each piece of textile has microchip in their smart-hanger, which document which processes it has been through, and which worker applied which sewing pattern, throughout the entire factory,
this way they can store the baseline textile in certain sizes ready for customer to apply custom patterns on each piece.

No they can't. The old compressors are built like a panzer and still cycle coolant all day, everyday after almost a hundred years now

Are you leftshits actually retarded
No ones gonna pay for foreign goods with inflated tariffed prices
Theres always going to be some alternative American homemade product thats cheaper then, and Americans will buy that
Trumps policy is going to 100% kill everything imported, as it should be
Mad, kike?

The OP isn't joking. The quality control is absolutely insane over there.

muh landlords

Increase housing supply, simple as. Stop complaining that they're tearing down 100 year old decrepit brownstones and let them build glass spires to gentrify the neighborhood

muh healthcare

I do not understand the left's obsession with this, really only applies to people who have a shopping list of medical issues yet these are normal able-bodied people crying about it.

Shit products

shopnoctex.com/
Cunt, Feel free to keep your jew ass and cheep whore ware in China....
And Enjoy the Tariffs!

Quality control is absolutely insane

My point exactly.
I'll stick to sane quality control though, tvm.

some pasty woman with piercing and dead computer screen stare

1.5 decades of manufacturing experience

Liar

I don't even have those: regular (non freezer) fridge + top door freezer.

The tariffs will have to be greater than 100% before it even becomes economically feasible to set up in America. Low level tariffs are just going to be tolerated as another business expense and drive inflation up.

still dirty chink shit

here’s why

Because her products are made by slave labor where workers are paid pennies on the dollar but she can overcharge for cheap shit and rake in massive profits.
There’s nothing else to it but that.

lol, this has become the new standard for doing business in the US, businesses that feel entitled to customers money and when the customers demand service for what they paid for you tell them to fuck off and go to China. This business model looks to be working well so far.

Manufacturing workers were never once hired for "skills" they were hired for labor, Henry Ford hated kikes yet would buy entire neighborhoods and apartments to house niggers to work in his factories

Can’t wait until the Jeets are gone too

lying bitches website still says its made in los angeles

And as bad as 'jeet stuff is right now, in a few decades they'll start to get the hang of things.

No they wont because China is 20-25 IQ points ahead of jeets on average. Race is real, mr Amerimutt.