It's over

Well, they're right. Everyone who panic sold in 2008 and 2009 regrets it today.

go all in bro

The market has always rebounded, and rebounded harder than before. Anyone over the age of 15 has realized this. Unless you're planning to retire in the next 5 years this is a nothingburger and a great time to invest more while prices are decade lows. If you were planning to retire soon then you should have been smart and not had your entire profile invested in stocks like some braindead retard.

true, but companies often collapse along the way
do you think Trump will bail out BlackRock?

Pretty based of trump to scare the shit out of these huge companies. I believe he’s trying to bring the mid 20th century back to US

Saar! DO NOT REDEEM!

Just short everything… you have been doing that right? This is all deliberate. It’s funny that so many idiot think trump doesn’t know what he’s doing

so many idiot think trump doesn’t know what he’s doing

yeh.... ok retard

Buy gilts/bonds and short the market. This is going to continue for quite some time. This is all deliberate

was about to make this thread
total bitcoin death

We are 3 1/2 hours away from futures opening.
And then Europe announces counter tarriffs.

Wow you sure showed me!

I hope NoCock goes under. I no longer care about the consequences so save your breath if you were about to try and explain how bad this would be. If i die, i die. Screw it.

Some men aren't looking for anything logical. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to say the n-word.

No mate, the markets have shown you

Red Sea status?

The market has always rebounded

you stupid fucking nigger. your 401k will be $0 tomorrow. it will be like you never saved a penny. you are no better off than your NEET son

we can't predict when the volatility will subside

lol

and therein lies the problem you dumb math niggas

RobinHood banning trades and forcing their clients to sell their portfolios again when?

vanguard

Kek I’m cashing out, fuck the penalties

It’s planned you fucking idiot. He’s bursting the bubble and gutting all the inflated value we’ve been building up for decades. He’s strengthening government bonds and bringing stock prices back to a more sustainable amount. If trump didn’t intend this he’d have 180 immediately. This is painful for rich kikes and boomers. Wait for the deflationary period after all this. Trump is actually doing what should’ve been done many many years ago but no one was brave enough to

If you’re dumb enough to still use Robin hood.

What? I hate that don is a massive Zionist but his economic policies will be very good for the US in the long term

People don't understand how over leveraged the market is.
If people sell their leveraged stock the bill is due for the lender.

Wasn't it over 100k with sleepy joseph? Why did you vote for someone even more of a senile pedophile than him?

This is painful for rich kikes and boomers.

Pretty much. It's the greedy retards who check their 401k every day and boomers living off their distributions. Don't care, needs to happen.

Eventually yes.
In short term there will be turmoil and mass layoffs.
Have fun.

Sorry, I could forgive a sensible tarriff plan.
But some jeet pulling numbers out of his ass with AI doesn’t sound like there’s much of a plan anywhere.
Other than getting whites to die for kikes.

Depends, there are pockets of ten year bear markets tucked away historically.
Like in the 70s
And after the dot com bubble
Now we are seeing the covid 'quantitive easing' bubble popping, jpow said it was supposed to be a soft landing kek

Wasn't it over 100k with sleepy joseph?

It spiked when Trump won the election. So technically yes it was under Biden but it's because Trump won and is very pro crypto.

every single wealth company does this, AND THEY'RE CORRECT

RUN

Better sell it while you can.

Jesus fuck how weak are these paperhanded faggots?
Whats the point of taking money out of the market after a sharp loss, you’re only locking in your losses. No seriously, whats the logic here? What, line will never go back up, ever again? Sure, maybe thats the case if you invested in some shit company with horrendous financials, no name leadership and total vaporware for a product, but if your money is in Amazon, Google, Tesla and materials like gold and oil why you shaking?
If anything now is the time to figure out what your entry price points will be as your favorite stocks offer steeper and steeper discounts every week
Tl;dr buy the dips, faggots

Even in those cases if you held and just keep buying it ends up being a huge advantage. A decade of cheaper stocks did wonders for boomers.
Really the only things that can fuck you are if you lose your income or you need to retire within that next decade.
And sure you can attempt to time the market and rebuy at the bottom but let's face it if your on Anon Babble you're probably going to fuck that up or just dump it into silver and miss out on the recovery.

Fear, anon. It'll get boomers every fucking time. If I were running vanguard I'd be welcoming boomers to sell.

OH MY GOD NOT THE DIGITAL NUMBER STOCKS
You retards have no understanding of what's happening nor why.
The west will be completely helpless if it doesn't start manufacturing things again. You will be made to be servants of the East, you fucking retards.

The contributions to my 401k will be subsidized by you paper hand boomers liquidating your portfolios because the imaginary jew numbers scared you. Unlike yours, mine doesn't need to be worth anything until 2060 anyway. I'm not even sure if America will even still exist by then.

Thanks for discounting the S&P 500. Your loss is my gain.

He’s bringing back the 60s and 70s which is a good thing. The fact is no one can compete with a giant cheap workforce with no labour laws, so trump is doing the only thing you can do, levelling the playing field. The thing is it takes time for onshoring to build up, whoever succeeds trump will need to see it through

If Trump's tariffs remain in force, they will cause a permanent reduction in the underlying production potential of the economy. He's turning back the clock on the economy, which means he's turning back the clock on asset valuations as well

The market has always rebounded

The Japanese stock market took 35 years to recover to its 1989 peak

Based memeflag
Rare based Brit

Nothing is permanent. Trump is increasing in the long run the production of tangible assets. Fuck the service and financial sector, it’s does nothing but make the rich richer through compounding

Private equity are the shadiest homos alive.
When buffet was talking about the tide going out and showing who’s got no pants, he was taking about them.
It’s also why buffet doesn’t put his money in PE

Times like these are pages on which the origins of family dynasties are writ.
Play your cards right and you could be hundreds if not tens of thousands dollars richer by years end
I’m extremely excited for this black swan event, time to EAT, boys

Monday will be +7%.

ALL HANDS ABANDON YOUR MARKET POSITIONS
IT'S OVER

You’re in some crazy risky shit. Normal people just have sp500 or something even more diversified which is only down like 10% to now be at the same level as less than a year ago.

122k invested

$50 worth of dividends in a single quarter

not my fault you invested poorly.

Trump is increasing in the long run the production of tangible assets.

The tariffs will destroy economies of scale and comparative advantages

The Japanese stock market took 35 years to recover to its 1989 peak

Japan consistently tries to keep its currency deflated, moron. No shit it took that long.

We’ve wiped off less than 12 months worth of gains. Agree with the sentiment but it needs to drop way lower.

Invest in what? I've never paid attention to the stock market due to being a complete and total retard

Stocks are not real economic units, faggot.
They are speculation on perceived value, that shit isn't going to build you anything, it's not going to give you food.

Its unironically our time
Rev up those calls and puts
Figure out your entry prices
Sell the news
Stoke fear, FOMO, delirious rushes of optimism
Organize in trusted online comminities and discuss IPO’s with potential, failing companies to short, falling prices to buy
You don’t have money, borrow some, but not without a plan
Time to eat at the boomers expense lads, its an all you can eat buffet and the boomers are picking up the tab

is this some kind of jewish plot to trick people into holding while they sell?

Which means it took 35 years to recover in real terms

Look up UVIX
Basically, the further SPY dumps, the higher UVIX flies
Also, gold is at a discount right now, research gold funds
I’d also recommend investing a little in Amazon and Walmart in case people get stimmy checks

You have a giant ego.

Stocks are not real economic units

Stock valuations are supposed to be based on the present value of expected future dividends. If stock valuations crash, it's because investors have revised down their expectations of future profits. The
reason they are revising down expectations of future profits is because Trump tariffs are about to destroy cross-border supply chains, retaliatory tariffs are about to destroy demand in export markets, and a likely recession and slower growth is about to reduce demand in domestic markets

drive money into United States treasuries

force restart of domestic manufacturing

WW3

It does seem that way, china is practicing mulberry harbours while we talk about troons.

The trick is to do your trades before the crash.

Stock valuations are supposed to be based on the present value of expected future dividends.

lol
Yes, that's what I said, speculation on perceived value.

Comparative advantage is only meaningful if all you care about is profit. Trumps admin appears to care more about not being dependent on China and employment. Trump is all about more meaningful employment. You can’t have something for nothing, this will cause higher prices but it’s a price worth paying for greater domestic production and greater employment. It’s a zero sum game between consumers and workers. Free trade means huge loss of potential workers all for cheap slop

This, I exited all markets weeks ago

The

reason they are revising down expectations of future profits is because Trump tariffs are about to destroy cross-border supply chains

No it's because stockies are leftists who get their news from OrangeManBadFakeNews.com which just doom-porns all day about the Trump admin.

That's what it's based on.

Kek. They don’t have the money to pay out. They are insolvent

You say that as if you think that makes it somehow not real or indicative of the economy

It’s the right call, you only lose money if you take it out on a down turn. The market will recover inside of 6 months.

Or maybe it's just because they are people who spent more than 30 seconds studying finance, economics and economic history and use that knowledge to inform their decisions

It's not, the stock market has been reaching record highs every year and yet everyone knows the real economy in America has been shit.
You know what helps to boost stocks up a great amount? Lots of inflation, what a great indication that the economy is healthy am I right.

No counter argument

using blatant fallacious argumentation

lol

RIDE THE DIP!

I have 30 years experience, I can't possibly be wrong!

Classic boomer card.

Comparative advantage is only meaningful if all you care about is profit.

Maximizing the use of comparative advantages is how you maximize production output. Which share of that production output goes to whom is another question

Trumps admin appears to care more about not being dependent on China and employment.

Free trade means huge loss of potential workers all for cheap slop

If his strategy was to bring back strategic manufacturing, then he would use a mix of highly targeted tariffs and subsidies. If he wanted to use blanket tariffs to bring back low-value manufacturing in general, then he would phase them in over a period of years so that businesses have time to adjust. You can't onshore supply chains in a matter of days. Although, that is not the signal he is sending. He just indicated that he is negotiating a zero-tariff free trade agreement with Vietnam, a sweatshop economy of 100 million people. That is not what you say if you want businesses to onshore low-value manufacturing.

Not just that, here's what his precious "experts" were saying a few years ago.

everyone knows the real economy in America has been shit.

Just because you and your circle of acquaintances can't get raises that keep pace with inflation doesn't mean no one else in the economy is making money

Uh oh, looks like your circle agrees with me.

lol take it all out of the markets and the banks. Crash the whole fucking thing.

(fee-based)

it's just grifts, all the way up and down, literally everywhere. i completely understand why jesus went apeshit on the merchants and money-changers in the temple

I think pirate flag is democrat flag, who is a girl. Very feminine passive-aggresive posts.

Not my problem.

his precious "experts"

Most pop econ takes and "expert opinions" you'll see in mass media are just propaganda that say whatever is convenient at the moment. That's why they get published in mass media. Even people who have done serious econ work in the past will become shameless shills so they can write some column. Just look at Paul Krugman.

vanguard is a little faggot company. they invest in the shittiest evil companies.
Wealthy Americans are the worst people on the planet.

fuck I just put a grand in seeing how it held up so well on friday

oh shit time to dump everything, it's joever

This is before this warren buffet pulled out and I followed suit so, out before it happened.

Supposed to, expected, speculated, potential... It's all shit. You're reading tealeaves which a dozen rich Jews are spinning in your cup and claiming you can see the future. Give over.

this yours bro?
what do you even have I'm only 8% down

Right before Covid happened I was -25k in debt with 11 being credit card debt. I went full Ramsey mode and bought nothing until I paid it off. After I slowly built up an emergency fund and put all that money in the stock market. Every two weeks I’d put in $500 and watch as my portfolio lost more then 500 in a day. It hurt. I was upset but kept reading, it will go up. I kept putting in money.

At about 10k cash and 15k in the market money stopped mattering. I no longer worried about a flat tire or a $300 bill. I was secure. I quit my second and third job and worked 40 hours. I stopped caring about groceries, I had a few k in my checking at all times. I put less in the market but kept going.

I currently have 30k cash and about 50-60 in the market. None of it matters. The stock market could triple and I still have to work. Working extra doesn’t matter cause it’s just number goes up, I don’t buy more then my check and always put away a bit in both accounts. Keep doing it bro. Unless you hit about 500k to a million it doesn’t matter. Even then are you planning on not working? If I had about 800k I’d think about not working and if I was going through this down turn with it I would just start working again and take out less. I don’t care about stuff, I want to not work. Until I’m close to that goal, which I’m not, it doesn’t matter.

You seem to believe maximising production or maximising efficiency or maximising cheap goods is the only goal for a society. It’s not. We’ve prioritised consumers for 50 years at the detriment of workers and employment. The tables are turning.

Crypto was always just the thirdworld's unregulated speculation market

I buy spy almost exclusively. It’s 500 USA companies and it’s constantly updated dropping shit companies like kodak and adding new stars like Tesla. Historically it goes up 10% every year over a long enough time. I’d do that if you are under 50 and if you are over 50 and don’t know what I’m talking about then you should be a bit worried. Might be worth it to pay the high fees for an investor. They will do pretty much what I said but charge you 25% of your profit. Obviously a bad deal but people are ignorant.

People care about saving $1 on gas but not on saving 300k over a lifetime because it’s scary.

The stock market is actually a great hedge against inflation. Let’s say coke makes 1 million a year profit. It gets distributed to stock holders. Inflation happens and coke goes up $1 a bottle. Is coke going to sell at a loss? They are going to raise their price and people will grumble but most will still buy it. Instead of 1 million they made 1.5 million in profit. Profit then goes in stock holders.

Soft landing is always worse because you lose whole generations and when that happens you can just go into an economic demographic death spiral.
A really harsh correction with blood in the streets is what wakes people up. A splash of cold water in the face with former millionaires lining up at food banks. There are too many contradictions in the current economic system for it to sustain itself.

noticed

if my bank would send me letter "don't take your moneys" I would be camping front of their office now waiting them to open

Yeah Trump was calling out the "big ugly stock market bubble" back in the Obama years and said it needed bursting. The rich kikes you mentioned though are 100% shorting the market right now.

they have gambled them and lost it in tanking stocks

well that's because you're a panicky moron

It’s a trash economy. Most things produced go directly in the garbage

Drumpf gonna crash the US economy like a retard LOL

how's that for a sentiment check

They send this email every single time anything happens. They sent it when Trump got elected. They send it at financial year end. They send it on every small downturn. There's your fucking sentiment check.

translation: hold this bag for me goy while i continue to sell off

Most “production” is plastic trash that ends up in a landfill weeks after being put to market.

God, boomer tears are so much more satisfying than wokie tears

You have to understand how market cycles work. I have lived through 3 that I remember, and a 4th when I was too young.
First principle: there is a metagame around everything. Every system can be seen as a black box with a set of levers. The way those levers are controlled is the metagame.

Now lets turn to the institutional harvest: large investment firms controlling the mass of 401k and other retirement vehicles. Taking the first principle, the market blackbox can be seen as a slot machine with a lever and this is the jackpot they want to collect. It should be noted that this extends far beyond equities, but I don't want to get out of scope.

The point of crashing the market is to compel the institutions via their 'robust economic theories' to exit positions. That is, as prices drops in the real world, people are less likely to sell. But this is not the case when there is existential threat against firms for not following 'safe' practices.
Vanguard is right in not wanting people to withdrawal their holdings; however, this is a violation of the metagame. It doesn't matter if people withdrawl or not, and you should take your money out of the institution during their FUD faggotry. Their plan to hit you with losses as they exit under contrived conditions when the market will rebound in x terms. You are compelled to have toilet paper hands by letting the jew represent you.

There is more to say about the nature of this machine, but whatever. I am putting everything in AMD for the turn around.
Good luck out there.

yeah wait for too long and its all gonna be gone when you want to take it out
time for a bank run was yesterday anon

I think he's intentionally destroying the imaginary wealth they invented the last couple years. Just look at NVIDIA stock to see why it's all speculative bullshit that had to be deflated sooner or later

nvidia is a special case. They set up a contrived status around AI. It simply hasn't been around long enough for institutions to be so heavily leveraged in such a thing.
They then tried to say deepseek popped the AI bubble.
Clowns in the circus.

can't wait to buy more Bitcoin when it drops to 60k

It’s funny that so many idiot think trump doesn’t know what he’s doing

Part of knowing what you're doing is knowing how much misery people can take in the name of your long term grand plan. Trump just thinks everyone who voted for him is signed up to this. Most of them couldn't tell you what a tariff is or how it works