Why bother going to college?

AI is a force multipler. Good programmers can use it way more effectively than bad programmers/ laymen/ indians.

I struggle to answer these questions for you. Not because they are difficult to answer. But because the answer is so fucking elementary that I am utterly shocked that I am even reading them. It shakes me to the core to think that a human "mind" could be so empty.

Kek you're going to build in flaws you don't even understand because you haven't encountered the situation yet. A million little Y2Ks every day.

They will then come up later and youll be paying a human engineer through the ass to fix it.

Silence NPC.

Good luck with your ai garbage. I look forward to making you pay me overtime to unfuck all your systems after you give the computer confused and self contradictory instructions.

"AI" in its current form is at best a tool and definetely not a replacement. No matter how good it gets you'd still need a human with at least some basic level of competence to serve as a safety net from various mistakes and hallucinations it's prone to make.

Automatic translation tech is basically the same thing but for one particular field. It's been 20+ years and yet one still has to edit by hand most of the stuff Google Translate/DeepL spews out.

Why do normies do this shit when they want to state their trash opinion? It's like they're throwing a tantrum.

You don’t even know what you’re talking about. AI can identify errors in code far better than humans.

That's the thing. A trained user is going to be exponentially more effective with AI as a tool than an untrained user. I literally am its boss, I catch its errors, ask it to redo tasks until it's perfect. That's because I already have been programming for decades. I know what to tell it. It's still a lot faster than doing it by myself. And the untrained person cannot do it by themselves, and will barely be able to do it with AI since AI has to train them on every thing first.

Wrong. I can definitely see AI being able to write an entire OS from scratch in the next 3-5 years. Linux will definitely be on the ropes then, but not so much for Microsoft and Apple as they have much better branding and market share.

AI can identify errors in code

Compilers have been around for decades, anon

There is no limit for my hate towards these 'tech bro' and 'founder' retards.
They have to turn everything into shit. They create some shitty api that connects some other retarded app to some logs from a shopping app or sth and think they have cured cancer. And now they are just promoting their stupid AI models that can't even function as a college graduate with less than one year of experience.
If 9 years ago someone told me this is how this industry will turn i would have legit change majors and went to electronics or chemical engineering.

Retard reply by retard npc.

I'm graduating soon into unemployment, spamming job applications into the void. Can't even land an internship. Worthless degree

P.S: AI will reduce number of software engineers and coders in near future (5-10 years) but not in "replacing terms"
It will make it easier for high performer and senior engineers to write code a lot faster so now instead of 5 devs in a team you might need 1 or 2 to do the same work.

Stop bitching, start building, and ship

all the nerds who used to tell themselves their engineering degrees would make them more successful than Chad and Stacy get replaced by literal robots

Meanwhile Chad has a car dealership and Stacy clears 300k/year in enterprise sales. HAHAHAHAHA.

Sorry to hear that bro. I honestly have No advice for juniors and new grads.
Market is fucked to the core, we already have oversupply of local devs and these fuckers are importing tons of H-1b and foreign jeeps, and ofc they all want to work in IT :(

Fuck is a vibe coder
U listen to lofi and nightcore while coding?

You mean onlyfans sales

You aren't allowed to post here with your malignant narcissism jeet
Rangeban ALL jeets

AI can INCLUDE errors in code far better than humans.

FTFY you fucking retard.
If there was a magical AI that can fix all shit just by looking at code we wouldn't be swimming in zero days exploits and overall garbage that is current day software.
AI can make you a flappy bird if you work really hard and guide it like a special need retard through absolute basics.
If you expect anything more sophisticated you're a fucking idiot.

Put any code you want into ChatGPT and tell it to find the error. Now do that with a college degreed dev. I’d put my money on AI

get a job

mastered AI and prompt engineering?

community notes - this is harder than it looks because you need real world knowledge to tweak the AI prompts
tldr - you will still need some training

AI hasnt really had a chance to design its own systems and languages that would be more robust against exploits. Trying to tell u when AI builds a program it will be built on a human designed system (like python) on human designed hardware.

No I don't need to make cow shit curry like you wagie jeet cuck, but I do enjoy filling your pajeeta women with my BWC

Look at how great and excellent human developer code is. It only takes 44 dependencies to parse a URL in Rust.

I got way too much pussy in college.
I probably fucked 100-150 women in college over about 3 years?

I had 1 major girlfriend. I fucked most of her friends. I had dozens of hook ups and friends with benefits.

Did he stutter?

You just simply tell it when something isn’t working.

And then what happens when you hit the context limit for the conversation? You've never actually used LLMs to generate code, have you?

It's a female tantrum technique, they're asking for a nice hard slap to reset them to factory settings

That market was previously filled by jeets. If it can be filled more effectively by white college grads in the US, this is a win.

Jeets can't even AI correctly.

You’re calling people NPCs while defending the idea of having a computer do your thinking for you. You’re a fucking retard.
If you have a deep enough understanding of programming and software development to actually understand the AI’s output, to review and understand the code and to understand how the AI generated code interacts with the rest of the system, then fine. You’re an engineer. You understand what you’ve built and you have the skills to change and maintain it in the absence of an AI. An engineer can tell when AI is giving good output and when it’s hallucinating and making up trash.
If you’re someone who relies on AI to figure out AI’s output because you’re so dumb and unknowledgeable you can’t understand it yourself, then you’re not an engineer. You’re just someone who’s using trial and error to hack together something that seems like it works but you don’t know if it actually works because you don’t know how it works to begin with.
Anyone who calls themselves a “vibe coder” is an imposter who doesn’t really know what he’s doing.

If I had physical access to you, I would would relentlessly beat you. Not exaggerating, I would physically attack you.

What the actual fuck is a vibe coder?

I'm starting to reach the limits of what AI can easily do "vibe coding". I'm making a game right now and it is getting harder and harder to get good code out of it. Grok likes to insert random words or chinese characters into code. ChatGPT can't do syntax right. Grok has a hard time identifying cross library bugs. ChatGPT doesn't like showing me more than 1,000 lines of code at a single time. Both break randomly throughout the day.

I find it really funny that same codemonkeys that made AI are the first ones to go by said AI
I was hiring coders before cause i cant code for shit nor i have desire to code anything, its just too nerdy shit with way too much gatekeeping for no other reason but for gatekeeping.
Anyhow, before i renewed contract with my go to coder, i had some time to see that "vibe" coding with Claude, $17 for a month is half an hour of my guy working.
I explained, IN VOICE with crooked english, as i would to my coder, what i want to make.
AI told me what to install and from where to run it localy, gave me links and shit and to just copy what i got from the voice promt.
It wasnt perfect but it was working on first go.
$17 per month

Somebody that copies and pastes LLM generated code with no regard for correctness.

Even before vibe coding was viable, the cs degree was weak, now even more so.
Also, yes, a company would want a qualified human to varify if the code produced is actually good or not.

wtf is a vibe coder

A vibe coder is someone who doesn’t know shit about how to actually write code or build software systems. But they know how to prompt AI to give them little snippets of code that they can glue together to make simple webpages and video games. That’s all they can make because “vibe coders” lack the understanding required to really verify, expand and develop upon what AI shits out for them.
Why does every retard say that any field which requires skill is “gatekeeping”?
There is absolutely no gatekeeping in coding. Literally anybody with a computer can look up tutorials and learn to code.
People say the same shit about art too. Like artists are “gate keeping” somehow, when literally anybody has the ability to pick up a pencil and learn art. It’s not gatekeeping, you just have a skill issue. Your mentality is really dumb.

Me, promting code for relatively small projects that just few years ago i had to hire someone to do it.

because AI is not actually going to produce more than some barely functional scripts right now.
might be different in the future, but even then you'll need people who actually know what they are doing to fix the shit AI breaks

Let the machine do all your thinking and all your work for you, or else you are a retard.

Let the machine do all your thinking and all your work for you, so you can become a retard.

most of it is math, anon.
you will have to think about how to turn your problem into a mathematical equation so a PC can solve it.
most people use their fingers to count.

call me should you go beat because the next time I see LLm generated code at work you're going to read about it on international news.

wtf a compiler is not AI

a lot of canadian flags in this thread

talking about ai brings out all the jeets
kek

Literally anybody with a computer can look up tutorials and learn to code.

Absolutely, if he is retarded enough to cave in and accept the caveman monkey fucking adventure that is called programing environment.
Im telling you as someone who is outside of coding as i work in completely different field.
You niggers "gee i dont know why" couldnt standardize shit for 60 years.

i want to work in C++

I want a fucking installer or zip file with every mother fucking possibly needed or ever written dependacy in that zip file for C++ 64bit

no that can be done cause of this and that

Now enjoy vibe coding and 10% of your market that will need you.

Good luck maintaining that vibe code when requirements change a few years from now, junior.

vibe coders can only replace pajeets
the moment you encounter an issue that isn't rudimentary LLMs can't solve it

i want to see these people solve a use after free bug

You fail to understand that you’re not being gatekept by anybody. It’s just that understanding how computers work, learning to code and write software are inherently challenging and difficult. Nobody’s putting up barriers to make it harder for you. And, speaking as someone who is not and has never worked as a coder but has coded as a hobby for years: it’s not hard. Computer languages are literally designed to be easy for humans to learn, and they are. Maybe you should start with a more noob friendly language like python instead of C++

The last two years of my life have been spent untangling millions of lines of jeet code, replacing it piece-by-piece as the components that are total losses are identified and the business os convinced as such. Somebody had the nerve to go wild with an LLM right in the middle of it. Thousands upon thousands of lines changed in completely nonsensical ways, and all within the most brittle, high risk part of the project. Then during code review, he refused to back down. It all had to be written, and came out to a couple hundred lines.

Mark my words: just as many of us find ourselves fixing the outsourcing fuckups full time, so too will we find ourselves fixing LLM disasters years from now. And it will be even worse.

it's not copy pasting anymore with Cursor and Trae
you don't have to be clueless
its actually fun
but you run into issues AI can't solve and then you have to revert to regular coding

i want to see these people solve a use after free bug

avrf

!heaps

look at free stack

Of course, you need to understand you're looking at a UAF in the first place.

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Glad I could clear that up for you OP.

You fail to understand that you’re not being gatekept by anybody. It’s just that understanding how computers work, learning to code and write software are inherently challenging and difficult.

What I mean by this is that there’s no getting around the fact that learning new skills takes time and effort and if you’re a software engineer then you need to educate yourself and learn to understand the bullshit that comes with dealing with computers. Otherwise you’ll never really know if what you “made” really does what it’s supposed to do

Well no it isnt, Claude and go.
I dont even have time or need to learn it.

I’ve used those tools and they’re pretty limited in what you can make without applying any of your own coding knowledge. I wouldn’t trust anyone who doesn’t understand code to build anything worthwhile with it.

finding the code that frees that block or writes to a freed block isn't the hard part
the figuring out how and why it happened is

Im not building anything grand but i had to pay for someone to build even that.

Many zoomers can barely use a computer, let alone create anything of value on their own with one.
Not all, but many zoomers are way too dependent on AI to do the most basic of tasks that the 2 previous gen can do with ease on their own. You say most things are slop today. I would argue its due to DEI, corpo greed, mass appeal cash grab when not needed, out of touch people in charge, classic jewish greed, etc.
But just wait a decade or less when zoomers and other retards create ALL the slop with AI. Slop made by AI that was trained on more slop. Slop2.
Gone is imagination and creation for the sake of doing, exploring, and expressing. Welcome to a bland and generic prompt hell.

you are genuine acting like 99% of your work is not ctrl+c ctrl+v from Github before promts

Never ask an anti-college poster what they do for work (hard labor, walmart or unemployed)

I'd rather have buggy code than buggy code and Indians.

Not only is AI being trained on the "work" of indians, it's being trained on the AI generated data that was trained on indians. It's going to become impossible for many big companies to unravel the damage caused by enjeetification.

One lead engineer + 20 coders and office space
One lead engineer + millions of AI bots
Which gets more done per $

you don't have to know the ins and outs
there are enough abstractions in high level programming languages for that
it does help tho
i'm currently doing an OOP course in uni(mandatory course as a CS student)
our homework are so simple i just vibe code it.
mostly with claude
but even those simple tasks it screws up and i have to take over
from redundant slop to non functional code that regresses every time you tell it to fix it

what does work is writing pseudo code and telling claude to turn it to code, but that's not real vibe coding.

Because it isnt.
90% of my work is keeping up assembly and C shit for random backwards ass architectures. Basically having to keep up with stuff as old boomers that created and maintaining it die off.
The amount of jeet-work and rustfaggots "conversions" I've had to unfuck over the last 2 years is ridiculous.
I'm not a total anti-AI luddite, but I can quickly see where everything is going to end up if we let morons re-write everything with AI and rust.

oh just wait till the jeets start using jeetAI to poo-ify their code.

is so simple

The usefulness of AI auto-completion varies greatly depending on what kind of software you're engineering. Great for webshit or stupid phone apps.

Wake me up when it can generate an image that is indistinguishable from a real artists hand. Im not seeing it even remotely close. And I could argue that that job is much simpler for AI than generating code using templates.

JUST GENERATE A PROGRAM IN A SCRIPTING LANGUAGE

PROGRAM WITH METADATA AND TRAIN AN AI TO DO IT

The fucking kikes have been trying to do this since web 1.0. its not a simple problem. The frameworks all have tradeoffs. The kikes always lose because they want their cake and eat it too and think they are smarter than everyone else. The programs that always work and become products are usually the ones where some programmer does the work that he was hired to do.

LMAO vibe coders can do extremely basic stuff like their fake jobs tell them to do. They'll literally never be what I am no matter how advanced AI gets unfortunately.
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20 coders because they actually work, unless it's jeets.