Who wins?

Jews

whoever applies force successfully

Because, like the Bible, they never fucking read it. They get all of their information about US civics from Twitter, reddit, and youtube.

Illegally breaks into your country
Why isn't the law preventing them from illegally entering my house?

if ICE violates the constitution

Yeah, okay. Get back to me when that actually happens.
You retards have let all of the other 3-letter agencies violate the constitution millions of times and not said a peep. The left doesn't have any consistency when it comes to valuing the constitution so they can kick rocks.

The constitution only applies to american citizens.

Lawyers

durr if a bunch of pigs enter someone's home even though they werent supposed to and a deadly firefight ensues then uhhhhhh well they shouldn't have

checkmate, people who don't want illegals

protip government agencies do whatever they want

Like this retard here, for example. He legitimately doesn't even understand the entire purpose of 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments were almost exclusively for niggers. They are legitimately special education.
And he's allowed to vote.

Ice wins, and the idiot homeowner gets killed or sent to prison for being a harborer

Okay. I think you are an illegal immigrant and I am going to sodomize you and deport you to el salvador for posting mean things about israel on Anon Babble. You have no opportunity to prove you aren't an illegal immigrant because due process is only for citizens

illegals gassed for shooting feds

feds shot

america wins

ICE wins, simply because THEY are the government, also, you don't have any rights as an illegal.

Thank god AethistGirl had an opinion It totally changed my mind guys.

I win after ICE uses this as justification to firebomb illegals before entering

All of these worthless fucking lefty women acting so tough on the internet. She probably has a Luigi shrine in her bedroom too.

Yes.

The government because leftists have no guns. They deserve this for enforncing their gender hypnosis on elementary school children.

The modus operandi of the Biden government

2A doesn't apply for illegals.
If you're harboring illegals, you are committing a felony, so 2A doesn't apply to you either.
It's literally that simple. How are leftards this retarded?

I doubt the constitution applies to invaders who are not American citizens.
Pretty obviously.
Why do The Woking Dead enjoy wasting peoples time like this

I say brief stupid things

you have to waste effort correcting it

and I also doubt that atheist girl is a girl, the picture resembles an elderly man in a wig stollen off a rocking horse.

The government does not make money. They government takes taxes from it's citizens to pay for things.

Illegal aliens have lots of needs and no way to pay. The government must provide.

As the government does not make money without you, YOU in fact pay for the illegal aliens.

Do you want to feed, clothe and house the entire fucking planet? Are you morally obliged to?

What the literal fuck is wrong with you people?

These same people would give you nothing. Their governments would do nothing for you. they would never allow you to stay for free in their house. They would not go out of their way to embrace your customs and religion.

Really, what are you lot on?

Constitution only applies to citizens

The audience

Kys kike

They can enter to stop a crime.

They can enter to stop a crime. Being here illegally is a crime.

libshits now clinging to the constitution

over illegals

lol the world is fucked

Illegals don't have 2nd amendment rights.

If I as a Swede came as a LEGAL TOURIST, I can't own a gun and protect any property where I lived.

I would not have 2nd amendment.

Oestrogen & Chlorpromazine.

Curry & But not the loo.

Those are the two main vectors of garbage posts from shitheads.
*attention seeking, 72 iQ’ed, grottiest people.

Aliens don't have rights.

Invite them into your home if you want them here so much. Sponsor them for a visa.

Homeowner brutally beats ICE Agent about the head with copy of the constitution

ILLEGAL MIGRANTS ARE NOT US CITIZENS THEREFORE NOT UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF AMERICAN LAWS.

Death by paper cut

why are leftoids brigading as if they even own guns? remember the "we can't own guns because we are disabled you ableist" or the "if i owned a gun i would use it on myself" threads? geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg

I thought this tranny wanted to ban guns though.

black people kill many people every day but leftists only wake up when there is a school shooting once in a blue moon kek

Entering is a crime, and they will definitely end up stopping.

The Constitution does not grant rights. It simply enshrines the rights that every man born on Earth has. However, If they did not legally purchase the property then it's not their dwelling in the first place.

Stay mad niggerfaggot

Most rank and file liberals can't even spell jurisdiction much less understand its use in the 14th amendment.
Imagine the meltdown when the SC inevitably rules against anchor babies too.

The feds win every single time
Shoot a federal LEO? Go to jail

atheist

Into the trash.

Maybe in your state...
codes.findlaw.com/in/title-35-criminal-law-and-procedure/in-code-sect-35-41-3-2/

kek

the dead guy will be free

illegals dont have Constitutional Rights.

So when are all these people openly supporting organised crime getting rounded up?

this, force always wins. no such thing as a "right", only what you're given, or what you take.

Depends:

Citizen not harboring illegal

2nd Amendment

Citizen harboring illegal without warrant or probable cause

2nd Amendment

Citizen harboring illegal with warrant or probable cause

I.C.E.

Non-citizen in any possible scenario

I.C.E.

An additional amendment that was written by a jew, required assassinating a President, coercing a second president, and then got veto'd and had to be forced through by thuggery ignoring the law and daring the national guard to independently storm Washington and hang those involved.

Yeah, I'm gonna go with invalid.

What if I'm born with male DNA in 78% of my cells though?

Nothing they say or believe makes sense so they're required to be obtuse, facetious, dishonest, and ignorant to exist or interact with others in any measurable way

Ruby Ridge, baby. But I agree, go in guns a'blazing on these illegals.

Anon Babble wins

illegals are not protected by the constitution

this makes retard rightoids seethe, but this is absolutely wrong. the Constitution is an acknowledgement in inalienable GOD-GIVEN rights possessed by everyone. they are not rights granted by the government. whether or not someone is a citizen has no bearing on whether or not someone possesses those rights. if the Constitution didn't exist, the rights still would. the Constitution is merely a formal acknowledgement of those pre-existing rights.

so yes, illegals have constitutional rights. Whether or not the government chooses to acknowledge them is another story, but they are most certainly infringing on them. whether or not you can practically sue the gov as a non-citizen is probably why infringing doesn't matter in practice.

And they shoot back and kill you. Congrats you suicided by cop. What an accomplished life

Wrong. You might take some of them with you but your life is over.

The left looses voters as they don't support peoples right to bare arms.

Whoever has the most guns. So ICE.

You have to be 18 to post here.

good thing we are discusing what is legal and not what the spirit making the distinction void. As well if you want to play that game I can play devils advocate and say non whites were not given thos rights by spirit of the document as they werent considered men and the founders never implied shit skins had equal rights from god.

given

You are retarded and don't know how to read. The rights are not given by any earthly entity. The founders didn't give them. The USG didn't give them. They are granted by God and inalienable. The only way non-whites wouldn't have them is if you can argue that God does not consider non-whites human.

yes the founders said they were given by god god did not say that so the premis is you believe the FOUNDERS that god gave them the same FOUNDERS that did not think it applied to shit skins.

Again GOD has never said anything about rights we are simply upholding the founders interpretation of GODS intention.

Illegals are not protected by the constitution but green card holders are.
So green card holders can use their gun to shoot any ICE that illegally enters their homes.

It should be obvious that due process for an illegal is getting rounded up by feds since naturalization is a power explicitly delegated to congress. And also that Zion Don is more interested in going after citizens and legal residents than illegals. Hence, both sides are doing their parts to muddy the waters and the status quo will be maintained.

this
Lets imagine a scenario where and illegal entered from his native country that wants to charge him for speech laws that would violapte the illegals rights if he was a citizen the US government would not automatically protect the illegal from extradition since.....the illegal does not have inalianable first amendment rights.

Why the fuck are we granting USA citizen rights to foreigners?

muh founders are the authority on my rights!

what part of "self-evident" don't you understand? do you need your mother to tell you to wipe your ass too? or is it self-evident?

Power decides law, not the other way around. The Constitution is just a convenient framing device for justifying the boot when necessary.

I bet he doesn't even make his bed

what is a warrant

what is legal entry

what is "illegal immigrants don't have rights"

doesnt matter, 'you wont do shit' is all you need to tell her

are you a child? like literally a retarded man at best?

GOD has not ever spoken on the motherfucking subject. The reason the government believe that this is gods intention is through the interpretation and LITERAL words of the founders therfore I dont have to argue against the same founders intention that they obviously did not consider those rights to shit skins since their actions shown that.

you are like a fucking christcuck mixed with a retarded liberal lmfao worse type of person.

DO YOU REALLY THINK GOD TOLD THE FOUNDERS PERSONALLY THIS WAS HIS WILL?

this. even if you survive and win the case, the process is the punishment

So now the 2nd amendment matters when Pablo doesn’t want to be sent back home?

Whoever shoots first

Aiding and abetting is illegal. Killing federal agents is not self defense. You will either spend the rest of your life in prison or they will load entire clips into you and burn your house down.

the fucking funniest part is illegals cant get guns and the left is okay with this since they dont actually think they have the same rights as us.

they wont ever adress this contradiction

literally doesn't understand the meaning of "self-evident"

delegates all thinking to someone smarter than him

has to be told what to believe

lmao

checkmate chuds, I'll use my 2nd amendment right to shoot ICE trying to raid my house for illegals

what do you mean the presence of illegals made the search lawful?

what do you mean I'm facing federal time for murder?

but I checkmated the chuds!

self evident is a word written by the fucking founders not by god you fucking retard lmfao you understand that right?

their thoughts on shit skins rights are self evident by their actions as well.

still doesn't understand what self-evident means

i get it now. you're an NPC, and you have no self, so you can't grasp "self-evident."

The average American deserves a jack boot shoved down their throats.
I'd say a solid 30%-40% of the people here should be kicked out forcefully and we all know it.
Quite frankly, empower the people to round them up themselves.
I really don't care, and it'd be nice if the garbage in the left would stop pretending they care too.

the founders could of used the word obviously and it still is their own interpretation fagot lmfao self evident being written down by a man is not a magic spell that makes it ACTUALLY the intention and word of god. JESUS you are fucking bad at this.

People who arrested people and held them without trial and orchestrated the invasion of our country suddenly care about due process, the constitution and democracy

Does the US constitution apply to invaders in your country? If so mind=blown

Wow, some random nobody has an opinion on social media!

harboring fugitives is a criminal offense that warrants a search.

2nd amendment. They would then be deported for illegally entering the country.

Europe wins
we get to laugh at you either outcome

they can enter your house and take you off for saying shit on the intnernet and you have zero recourse TODAY

lmfao

no they can't you nigger lol
watch

..
you're a nigger

someone saying its self-evident does not make it self-evident!

yes, exactly. you're starting to understand what self-evident actually means. self-evident means it's obviously true and that if you think about it even a little bit, you can see it for yourself.

which is why it's so funny that you keep referring to the founders as the authorities on our rights. if you understood self-evident, you can derive the same conclusions that they do, without them. but you can't, cuz you're smolbrain

> You should take my argument in good faith because I say so. No I won't allow you to argue in the same fashion as that goes against my deeply held principles that I found out about when TV told me to think them.

Okay, no.

I am sure those videos are all fake.

they got arrested for incitement
just like the people in YOUR country who got arrested for incitement against shitwood

wtf is this retarted post about lmfao

nothing YOU say will make the words writtent by the founders the ACTUAL intentions of god if hes even real to beginwith you are a christcuck and a liberal cunt at the same time.

your logic the founders were so tuned up into gods belief that they wrote it exactly right and went home and kept their slave shit skins without rights. You cant have it both ways.

the truth is the founders did not see shit skins with rights being self evident to anyone.

incitment of violence your people literally get arrested for making non violent statements.

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

They are still subject to whatever country they come from. Being an illegal born on American soil doesn't mean the gov gains exclusive subjectivity over that individual. Even if you somehow overcome that legal hurdle their parents aren't being deprived life liberty or property being deported. Even if that was ruled true it only applies to citizens, not illegals

nope.

let me tell you about your country

kek

muh freedumbs of speech

except if you criticise israel or a boomer sheriff

megakek

The post in question was reportedly an image mocking the many evolutions of the LGBT/transgender pride flag by reshaping it into a swastika

winslowlawyers.com/uk-man-arrested-for-malicious-communications/

I can do this all night and post the shit you all get arrested for.

you literally just tried to say you are laughing at us while being in a OBJECTIVELY more anti freedom country.

This is the argument you btfo faggot lol

let me show you a thing that's a half truth and conceals the rest of the story

you're a nigger lol
need to use half-truths and fake news to "win" an argument online
MEGAKEK
i'll TLDR it for you, he put up stickers that also said kill niggers.

you don't believe in God though, why do you keep referring to Him?

Rights are man made. God grants no rights, he only grants duties and virtues.

Go pray and shut the fuck up.

you literally lied and said people got arrested for saying naughty words lol meanwhile you people got arrested for insulting a sheriff

who has bigger gun

I do believe in a god not one that gives a shit about the rights of man or how we govern ourselfs. But if I did not me refering to him has no bearing on the point I am making is that no one still knows his intention even if you believe in him

no nigger I just posted someone arrested for posting a naughty meme lmfao tell me whats fake about it.

you get arrested for crossing the road or collecting rainwater lol

post source that he posted those stickers.

google it yourself nigger

we can literally post stickers that say kill niggers lmfao its not a specifc threat.

They can just give away free cookies at the Walmart parking lot
All the fat ugly beaners will come out of hiding
AND THEN - BAM!
thank you, thank you
I'll be here all week

Jews because in such event Patriots will be deemed terrorists and the Jewish control of America will be complete.

Lol like that isn't already happening here in the US? Trump has stated he will deport antisemites.

uhhh but Trump is just talking about the Muslims who side with Palestine, those are the antisemites he's going to deport!

Good luck with that. Do you really think Trump is going to entertain for a second Anon Babble style antisemitism in real life? He'd deport any one of us in a moment if there werent bigger fish to fry. Good ole Zion Don glad to have him back in office, Israel's greatest ally.

can you cross the road though
lmao

It simply enshrines the rights that every man born on Earth has.

No it doesn't.
The Constitution dictates how the state is organized and indicates limits to government power.
It doesn't 'enshrine' anything dumbass.

you cant deport citizens.... everything else I dont give a shit about.

natural law isn't real and doesn't originate from God

lol

I do believe in a god not one that gives a shit about the rights of man or how we govern ourselfs.

You don't believe in God then. You're vaguely spiritual but are actually worshipping evil.

muh illegal

it was never about that

The federal government, of course. We fought a Civil War over this.

I think pretty much everyone wins in this scenario.

in the designated spots yes if your really want to play stupid I can find all types of retarded laws your nation has we dont but we are discussing actual rights like freedom of speech and from being molested and search and seized.

you cant deport citizens

politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportation-donald-trump-00311631

the Constitution is an acknowledgement in inalienable GOD-GIVEN rights possessed by everyone.

No it isn't dumbass, you're thinking of the Declaration of Independence.
God damn you cock suckers are fucking stupid.

in the designated spots

DESIGNATED

lol

can only cross the road at DESIGNATED SPOTS

lol
lmao even

so yes, illegals have constitutional rights.

No, they don't.
Also harboring an illegal immigrant is a violation of Federal Law and you go to fucking prison for that cocksucker.

I'm sure that knowledge will keep you warm in your cell at Guantanomo Bay

IIRC: There was a guy in the US that got SWAT attacked and he killed one of the officers, he went to court and won.

No-knock raids do not announce when the intruder is a officer, therefor it's only reasonable for the occupant to assume that the attack is lethal and unlawful.

who wins?

If there's bodycam footage, the audience.

Lol this retard thinks man made concepts aren't created by God. What a retard

Yes, Natural law is also a man made concept. Nowhere in scripture nor tradition are "natural laws" ever touched. That is a philosophical concept, you mongrel

Trump administration officials said in court that the mother told ICE officials that she wished to take V.M.L. with her to Honduras.

lmfao you guys really suck up any shit they sell you

yes you cant even fly a kite in public

natural law is man-made

lmao holy fuck
so many NPCs here

Why doesn't Trump order criminal charges on all the state worders/volunteers and state politicians that created and maintain the sanctuary cities?

Maryland man (US citizen) deported to El salvador

US citizen child reported

ReEeEee it's fake news

says the nigger that uses fake news
lol

It's being worked on.

If you evade law enforcement ie enter the country illegally, how do you figure that the individual is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"? They literally circumvented the law, evaded the process, broke the laws of the jurisdiction of which they claim to abide? Your reference to the Fourteenth amendment doesn't make it past the very first sentence!

What we call "natural laws" are human made descriptions for how we think parts of nature currently work. These descriptions tend to be proven wrong every 50-100 years and is replaced with theories/laws with greater explanatory power.

Humans do not know the truth, they can only seek it. Thus any descriptions human make will only ever be an attempt to understand, not an absolute fact.

You won’t know if they have a warrant or not at the moment they bust in. Won’t matter anyway if you start shooting. You’ll be dead in the end, warrant or not.

I am from baltimore faggot the guy from el salvado was a illegal are you this fucking late to that fact?

If ICE is entering your home, the constitution doesn't apply to you.

you do know the quote I used is from your source right?

Have you made it to the end of the sentence? It defines citizens of the US.

nor shall any State deprive any person

any person

Is it? Is Hillary going to jail being worked on too?

No. Trump is picking low hanging fruit of insignificant illegal to maintain enough face and gain enough attention without actually making a significant difference.

Trump could stop all immigration right now or order that immigrants only come from white countries. He doesn't do it.

B-b-b-b-ut the media says 'Maryland Man' and they believed them!

Don't forget who you're arguing with, retards.

Survival of the fittest is natural law, and God explicitly says to help the weak.

Must be a Catholic.

The one true Eastern Orthodox Church is waiting for you, retard. They always welcome another one

Is Hillary going to jail being worked on too?

No.
Dumbass.
What the fuck they gonna charge Hillary with? Being a cunt?

Trump could stop all immigration right now or order that immigrants only come from white countries.

Wrong.

why dont they have second amendment rights.

uses the constitution to defend themselves?

How so, by chucking the book at them?

So the beaners have an arsenal of illegal weapons? Ergo they get fucked regardless of cause.

Shit is truly fucked up when a leaf makes more objective sense than a burger.

You don't have constitutional rights when you commit a crime. Who else passed middle school?

Only citizens have constitutional rights.

What the fuck they gonna charge Hillary with? Being a cunt?

For whatever crimes she was committing that Hillary thought she needed to magnet wipe and smash wit hammer 14 electronic devices. Or examine where she got her hundreds of millions while on a politician salary. Etc.

That information is on a server somewhere, guaranteed the NSA has it.

interpretations of natural law does not imply natural law exists

sigh

Survival of the fittest is natural law

The fittest is defined by whatever survives.

The Constitution protects American citizens. But as you move down the ladder: Permanent resident (green card) > temporary visa > illegal, the case law shows you get fewer protections.

Explain to me why an illegal alien can own property?

So we just have to trust that ICE has our best interests at heart and they operate entirely beyond reproach? Will you be saying the same when Trump creates the JIDF brigade to start invading people's hones?

You're only playing the devil's advocate because you like spics. Papers please faggot.

I could say that hyperbolic shit about any adency ICE doing its fucking job by getting illegals out of the country is I see done here.

Born or naturalized AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
Illegal "anchor" baby does not qualify for all 3 points.

The fittest is defined by whatever survives.

Thank fuck God is explicitly against doctrines like that, else you wouldn't eve be here spewing such retardation.

Thank God im not Catholic.

agency*

Yea all of a sudden gun rights are incredibly important and the 2nd Amendment when liberals aren't in charge.
When they are, all of it needs to be done away with. They're ridiculous faggots.

So when Obama deported 5 million illegals - did they receive due process?

Only lawful American citizens have constitutional rights. But then again, I think it's past time we leaned on an 18th century political treatise to save ourselves. We are ruled by a cabal of international jewry, and there is only one solution for this.

interpretations of muslim doctrine means muslom doctrine is real.

You have a logical conundrum at hand my retarded brother.

I don't think illegals deserve due process. They should be immediately thrown out to fend for themselves. Sending them to another safe country is just an act of mercy.

Who are you calling a kike when you're the one defending parasitic outsiders staging a racial invasion into our lands? Then you're bitching about the white blood cell attacking the pathogen.

I have nothing but contempt for the constitution, if I had my way, I would have a evaluation soi state

But maybe if I use this argument against you, you'll do what I want.

Go ahead and suck start a revolver you disgusting freak.

Lol you didn't even get the point. The fittest is whatever survives, and God says "help people survive." and you think this is somehow a contradiction because you don't think for yourself.

How would they use the constitution to defend themself?

well if it's a beaner then they don't have rights, so the ice cop.
otherwise the homeowner wins

There is no evidence that "natural laws" outside of human descriptions actually exist. While it is possible there is some core natural phenomenon, it is not guaranteed that the natural phenomenon that emerges from the core can be adequately predicted.

We know, for example, that practically every single "natural law" that we have today has at least one fundamental and unsolved flaw. And we know that practically all the "constants" are changing over time. This indicates that anything beyond the core is in flux. Now comes the question "Is there even a core?" if there is no core phenomenon, or it too is subject to change over time, then nothing can ever be knowable.

Our understanding of science may have to be just as flexible as a pilot in the air. Yes, certain things may remain roughly understood, but things like turbulence can come about unexpectedly. And that may be us, our science may be proven right, wrong, or needing adjustments over and over again as we make adjustments to how nature changes unexpectedly.

There is absolutely nothing about nature that guarantees to us that it will remain certain or ascertainable. And even the idea of a fixed natural law may be wholly unnatural.

God never said "survive". He said reproduce and prosper. Help the weak and embolden the underdog. Literally the opposite of "Survival of the fittest". You are just engaging in sophist techniques that expose you for the absolute retard you are

The better question is why are leftoids so desperate to have cartel members shipped her? Is it just more spiteful mutant politics?

Illegal Aliens are do NOT have 2nd amendment rights. Whut dey gonna do? throw tacos at the agents?

You still don't understand what "fittest" is.

it means le heckin muscles and run fast!

"oy vey goy muh 2nd amendment tho!"

The kikes have truly lost the plot - that's like invoking the second ammendment after to defend some nigger, that shot up cops after they came to arrest him.

If kikes really think it's a good argument, they will get pogrommed soon - you can't maintain the zogs moral authority by being this lazy.

b-b-b-ut muh white women, muh libruls

Clitter is 90% bots a lot of them mossad bots, fed bots or jew run corporation/ngo bots and even if it is a White shitlib of some sort, some kike gave him a talking point and heavily implied that it gives him clout to say some shit so basically jewish messaging by proxy.

No point in even arguing about it, just point out it's jewis and retarded without explaining further, because addressing this retardation seriously gives it way more credibility than it deserves.

The United States Federal Government does not have the authority extend the rights of "the people" of the United States, to non-U.S. persons.
What you are saying implies that ITAR violations shouldn't be a thing.

It means "Might makes right". I can't even insult you anymore, it feels like beating a failed abortion to a pulp.

These are the same people that cheer when states violate the 2nd amendment btw

Oh, so I guess you can't charge all of those illegals for murder and drug dealing, anymore? Fucking retard.