Having a baby in America

Costs nearly $40,000

Why do we put up with this shit?

Because nobody voted for you they voted for you to be deported

i hate money grubbing penny picking up kikes

Don't pay it.
What are they going to do repo your baby?

Then why do negroes and spics breed like rats?

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You don’t have to pay medical bills you can just leave and throw the notices away.

No it doesn't

Do you not understand how a credit score works?

But the text said they paid 11k out of pocket. Which is true???????

Also, im pretty sure they knew it would be expensive so I have no sympathy for their attention seeking.

Ive paid more than that in taxes and never gotten any good medical attention.

I'll give you 50k for it if its white

I had two kids without insurance and I paid probably $30k for both.
One was born at home. The other was born at home but had to be rushed to the hospital after being revived by the midwife.
$5k for the midwife
$25k for the hospital stay
The midwife saved his life. The hospital didn't do shit.

The fuck do you need that fake jewish bullshit for?

That's Capitalism. Your baby is a product and profit must be extracted from it from the moment of birth until death. Not a Commie are yer?

having a baby at a (((hospital)))

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

Thats what they get for naming her Aspen.

and then think about how many spics just walk across the border 9 months pregnant, walk into a hospital, fill out some forms with all fake information, get the best medical care in the world, then repeat 10x more times.

and all those babies are "americans" and now the spic can take out loans in their name, get benefits, enroll them in public school, etc etc etc etc

THIS IS A PBS ARTICLE FROM 2013. IT'S AMAZING HOW IF YOU LOOK UP NEWS ARTICLES FROM LITERALLY ***ANY*** SOURCE EVEN 10 YEARS AGO; THEY ARE ALL INFINITELY MORE BASED THAN TODAY

pbs.org/newshour/health/how-undocumented-immigrants-sometimes-receive-medicaid-treatment

A 2007 medical article in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that 99 percent of those who used Emergency Medicaid during a four-year period in North Carolina were thought to be illegal immigrants.

In 2011, for example:

New York spent $528 million on Emergency Medicaid for nearly 30,000 people.

($17,600 per illegal)

Texas reported 240,000 claims costing $331 million. (One person could be responsible for multiple claims.)

Florida spent $214 million on 31,000 patients. ($7,000 per illegal)

North Carolina spent $48 million on about 19,000 people. ($2,500 per illegal)

Arizona spent $115 million. It couldn’t break out the number of illegals.

Illinois spent $25 million on the cost of care to nearly 2,000 people. ($12,500 per illegal)

The federal government doesn’t require states to report how many people receive services through Emergency Medicaid payments to hospitals.

LET ME REPEAT THAT LAST LINE THERE:

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN’T REQUIRE STATES TO REPORT HOW MANY PEOPLE RECEIVE SERVICES THROUGH EMERGENCY MEDICAID PAYMENTS TO HOSPITALS.

this article is from 2013; 12 years old. it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to find this information today, to see these numbers or if these policies have changed.

1/2

So, no, then

Good goyim, usury is good for the ignorant.

If you don't have 40,000 it's free

Oh no my goy score goes down not my problem thank you for paying for my medical bills tho retard

Least they saved 600 bucks on genital mutilation.

We really should be teaching basic financial literacy classes to you retards

AS I WAS SAYING; IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND THIS INFORMATION TODAY; TO SEE HOW THESE COSTS HAVE GROWN OR IF THESE POLICIES HAVE CHANGED.

BUT THIS MAKES ***SO*** MUCH SENSE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT; IT'S ***EXACTLY*** HOW THE COVID GRIFT WORKED FOR HOSPITALS.

ILLEGAL COMES TO AMERICAN HOSPITAL

IS LITERALLY INSTRUCTED TO FAKE FORMS (EITHER BY APP OR AN ACTUAL AGENT THEY CALL)

HOSPITAL 100% UNDERSTANDS THIS INFORMATION IS FALSE

HOSPITAL RUNS EVERY TEST; DOES EVERY CHECK; GIVES THE ABSOLUTE BEST TREATMENT

ALL OF THIS IS BILLED ***DIRECTLY*** TO THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER (YOU)

UNCLE SAM (YOU) PAYS THIS BILL IN FULL

HOSPITALS NOW HAVE A SOURCE OF INSTANT REVENUE; A HORDE OF ILLEGAL SPICS ON THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR

ABSOLUTLEY ***NO ONE*** PAYS THEIR MEDICAL BILLS. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT "DO" ARE THESE ILLEGAL SPICS BECAUSE ****WE**** PAY IT FOR THEM. THE HOSPITALS LOVE THIS POLICY; IT WORKS LIKE COVID. THEY ***HOPE*** SPICS ARE ILLEGAL.

THEY WILL TREAT AN ILLEGAL OVER YOU.

BACK TO THE ARTICLE:

the chief financial officer at Tampa General Hospital, said the $10 million the hospital collected each year to treat illegal immigrants was “very important to us.” He noted that Medicaid pays the hospital about $1,500 for each day a Medicaid patient is in the hospital.

Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami collects about $50 million a year in Emergency Medicaid funding, according to the state Agency for Health Care Administration.

THIS WAS IN 2013. HOSPITAL CFO'S ADMITTING THEY COULD NOT OPERATE IF NOT FOR THE ***FREE FUCKING MONEY*** THEY GET FROM TAXPAYERS (YOU) FOR GIVING CARE TO ILLEGALS.

HOW MUCH WORSE DO YOU THINK THIS HAS GOTTEN IN 10 YEARS OF RECORD ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION?

Just pop the baby out in your apartment. What the fuck? Giving birth is a natural process. And no, cutting of your babies foreskin is not important either.

They must be wealthy, I live in TN and qualified for TenCare
, both of us work decent paying jobs, and it’s covering the entire medical costs, giving free diapers, and gives the baby a year of insurance as well, maybe more if we still qualify.

You have three options.
-get a job
-just don't pay
-put up with it while crying like a retard
Not my fault you chose the most retarded option.

do you not understand how all cash works?

won't own a house

won't own a car that isn't a shitbox

won't work a job that needs a security clearance

Tell me why credit score is important to these people

7k for the circumcision

Kek, you Americans are really the ultimate golems.

$40,000

I only paid $100 in 2000 when my son was born. Thanks Obama/Biden inflation!!!!!

Nigger I’m a disabled neet do you think I’m gonna be able to ever buy a house? I sure as fuck can’t drive so I’ll never have a car either. Tell me what do I need a credit card for? To jew myself and go in debt by buying shit I don’t need? I don’t care about your financial system. It costs about 250k a year to treat what is wrong with me. Thank you again fuck your kike score

You don’t have to commie
Have your baby at home like humans have been doing for 300,000 years , nigger

OH BUT IT'S NOT JUST BABIES BEING BORN; IT'S LITERALLY ALL MEDICAL CARE:

The definition of emergency care and the scope of services available through the Medicaid programs vary by state. For example, in New York, Emergency Medicaid may be used to provide chemotherapy and radiation therapy to illegal immigrants. In New York, California and North Carolina, it may be used to provide outpatient dialysis to undocumented patients.

SO AGAIN, THIS ARTICLE FROM 2013 IS STATING THAT STATES HAVE BEEN, FOR AT LEAST THE LAST 15 YEARS, LITERALLY ALFTERING THE DEFINTION OF THE WORD "EMERGENCY" TO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE.....CHEMO....OR RADIATION THERAPY......OR OUTPATIENT DIALSYS

THEY ONLY LOOKED AT DATA FROM 10 STATES. I WOULD BET THAT "EMERGENCY CARE" IN CALIFORNIA MEANS A SPIC WITH A STUBBED TOE GETS (YOU) TO PAY FOR IT.

HAVE YOU BEEN YOUR CITIES HOSPITAL LATELY?

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i have a sister who is a fairly high up executive for a large hospital network. i have given her this data multiples times, and she TELLS ME THAT THESE PROGRAMS DO NOT EXIST, AND IF HOSPITALS TODAY WERE OPERATING THIS WAY; SHE WOULD KNOW.

she lives in a really big house and gets like $300k a year salary. lmaoooooo like she would talk. this is how this all works. they bribe people with a "good life" and fuck everyone else over. the people who get the "good life" will never say anything bad because they will never bite the hands that feeds.

they will reject reality when you show them. they work in these places. they MUST see this. they say it doesn't happen.

My sons birth cost me like $250 out of pocket. Get better insurance, niggers.

Even apartment rentals and phone plans check credit scores these days. Intentionally tanking yours can leave homeless and without a phone in the long term. If you can't rent anywhere and obviously don't have enough to buy a property, you pretty much are forced to live in the streets.

Home birth ne t time, then? Just do it in the bath thub, or whatever. That's what all the other poorfags do..

Wtf? Where does this crazy video come from? Where do you fuckers find these things??

Nigger I’m a disabled neet

So you're on Medicaid and SSI.
And all your kvetching about how we shouldn't pay doctors is... because you're gay?

I don’t pay any of that shit either kek

Mine was less than $100. If that.
All this crying is literally just browns who are too lazy to sign up for Medicaid.

if you can't rent anywhere, and obviously don't have enough to buy a property

but this makes no sense because EVERYONE knows that rent is more expensive than a mortgage; quite literally renting is more expensive than buying.

so if a person CAN afford rent; how is the argument they CANNOT afford to buy? this is illogical.

If you have a basic job with health insurance than it's only like a couple hundred bucks, even if you stay several days overnight

There's more expenses in owning a house than just the mortgage. You also have to pay taxes, insurance (much higher than renter's), and all home maintenance comes out of your pocket.

not if you get someone else to pay for the mortgage + money to cover those costs

lmao yeah sure it's so expensive that's why no one does it.

Where are you going to live while renting out your house?

correct, which is why you have to keep buying to support the bs FIRE economy. you are acting like i....don't get it?

because jews somehow forced us to pay for niggers and spics and their hellspawns, that's why it's so expensive

rent is more expensive than a mortgage; quite literally renting is more expensive than buying

You know it doesn't work like flipping a switch where rent becomes a mortgage payment, right? There are massive upfront costs (down-payment, closing costs, assorted other fees) right?
I'm starting to think you don't understand how numbers work.

nothing crazy about a baby comeing out of a woman , unless said woman has a beard , then we have problem.

That's the same person in boy mode on the left femood mode on the rogh

11k to pay for making a human resource capitalists to exploit to make them richer and even kill in one of their wars.

incredidle stupidity.
you all love capitalism. so you deserve capitalism. so
Enjoy CAPITALISM!

Why do we put up with this shit?

Because Trump said socialism will never happen in America.

down payment

nope, not when you have other properties as collateral or you just kick a few current tenants out and get yourself some nice "deposits" from the new ones

closing costs and other assorted fees

see above, you can run the same trick to come up with however much cash you need, and if you have a large portfolio of properties you don't need ANY of those things anyway because it's all washed.

YOU don't understand how reality works lmao

Just be gay

don't have to spend money on kids

don't have to spend money on jewelry

don't have a stupid bitch nagging in your ear all the time

Have a baby in a barn $0 and it will probably end up healthier than a baby born in a (((hospital)))

Not a single person ever pays those bills. The government always pays it or the hospital just waves it. Find me one person actually in debt for giving birth.

crossniggers get assraped by kikes and beg for more

the American health care system is an abusive tyranny that ransoms people and shakes them down for money

you have guns in your declaration of independence to fight tyranny.

This is why Luigi did what he did.

if i was American and in the jury, i would declare ''not guilty ''.

when Obamacare hits hard af

why didn't they perform their job for free??

Calm down cuckboi

$5k for the midwife

I had one back in 2023, cost a lot more than $5k for the midwives and dula. Wife paid for it, I think it was a bit over $10k. But yeah, kids are a status symbol nowadays. Anyone can get a loan for a car, its not impressive. When you factor in things like child care/schooling if you're not lucky enough to both work from home and home school.

eat shit, you fucking jew faggot. i haven't had a credit score in 30 years. i can rent a house/apartment and get a mobile phone any time i want. i've literally never had a problem with anything like that. take your fake fear and shove it up your stupid kike ass.

right.
as explained in these posts:
hospital treatment has basically become a grift wherein they have a revolving door of "patients" that are actually just chronically ill spics and nogs that get treatment insta paid by american tax dollars.

the real patients never pay bills, no one does. so the ONLY payments hospitals ACTUALLY get, which ACTUALLY keeps the doors open and the lights on, are these government "emergency" medicaid patients.

it's like jails and minimum occupancy laws. when you realize the hospitals have to maintain a certain bed utilization ratio; it all starts to click.

the EXACT same scenario is playing out with colleges and student loans. most foreign students come from wealthy families who actually DO pay, whereas domestic students simply never pay for their college, as it's literally socially accepted at this point to just not pay it; like medical bills.

$14K for an epidural - the stupid bitch couldn't handle the pain. fuck her
3 days in the hospital - what the fuck? babies come out in 3 hours. what the fuck did she think this was? a vacation???
tldr: stupid bitch needed pampering and rest and relaxation; if she had been a normal woman it would have cost them maybe $4K tops

What are wage garnishments and liens

Poorfag detected.

Based and (((free market)))pilled.

most daycare costs (the ones you would actually want to use, not ones that will literally rape your child or are a nigger zoo) are over $5,000 a month.

thus, if you or your partner doesn't make $5,000 a month, it's far more beneficial to just NOT WORK. especially if this lower income puts you under the benefit cliff, so now you get free food, healthcare, etc etc.

now you become of the people i mentioned earlier, a person that can be utilized by the system. that person gets ahead in life.

$10k

Jesus fucking Christ

Tard posting is down the hall

When you offer special loan programs accessible only to low credit niggers and retarded brown immigrants who don’t have a credit score to begin with, all in the name of “inclusivity,” it completely destroys the purpose of a credit score. So we ask again, Chaim; why should whites care about their credit score?

and get a mobile phone any time i want.

Damn what a bad ass

To get better loan rates to put your family in a better home/car/etc

So then I just won't have kids.
Fuck your replacement levels.

Immigrants and other people get it for free. Some of them literally get paid to have children by the government because of increased benefits per child

It costs less than 5k for a c-section in a less yahoo-ed country in a major city. You are all getting ripped off and raped by inflation.

That's not true either

Learn spanish and put on a bronze tan so you don't get gringo taxed.

Man... if only we stopped paying our doctors we could have thousands of Americans dying of thirst in waiting rooms every year like the NHS.
I for one am willing to use my 2nd Amendment right to fight for 18 month waiting periods to see a GP! That or I could just have a job like 95% of Americans and have virtually no Healthcare costs.

first time buyers should just kick tenets out of the properties they don't own!

Lmao. Not only is your claim wrong, but it makes no sense. You are retarded even for a brown, Ranjeesh.

Kek

We get it. Geez. Calm down, Juan. Illegals driving up medical costs is not new information.

Hot

I tried explaining to my boomer in-laws that things ain't cheap anymore. They are starting to come around but wnen I told them how much our first kid cost they couldn't believe it. They wouldn't believe it. They were sure it was an error.

Show them listing for apartments lol

Everyone gets it for free.
95% of Americans
A. Have a job and insurance pays for all but $100 of the birth. Or
B. Is brown and on Medicaid.
I'm not willing to deal with NHS murdering their patients level Clown World because 5% of neets are too retarded to sign up for Medicaid. Pay the stupid tax, freeloaders.

I had brain surgery for 160k, pre-approved, and I paid $40 copay to check in to the private hospital.

Based

Maybe just stay home and do natural child birth. ...or do what native American women did and just go out into the woods, bite down on a stick, and pop out a kid or die trying?

Why dysgenic, low IQ, poor, no STEM degree "people" want to have children? Why bring more people to suffer? Having children should be even more expensive

Welcome to Anon Babble You will get used

It’s not real. Insurance covers almost everything, and hospitals will negotiate prices if you don’t have insurance / pay out of pocket.
My wife basically did this for two of ours, though the midwife was still expensive. Ironically, the first midwife probably cost me more than the hospital would have because insurance gypped me. My wife says she wants to try without a midwife for the next birth (if we have one).

Sup anti natalist jewbot

They prove my point for me when I ask how much their onw home is worth compared to when they bought it 20 years ago

jews just inflated the prices, chill the fuck out

That's it i'm not having sex ever again. Women truly are the origin of all evil and suffering. Shopenhauer was right. I will rope myself as soon as I can

imagine paying 40k for something that was FREE for the last 12 thousand years.

Have a home birth

Cope. That is the value of the nurse and doctors time. In what fucking world do you think they should just spend their time freely on you and get nothing in return

I have 4 kids. All medical care for children is free from conception to age 26. Of course this included birth.
We don't have aircraft carriers to menace Israel's enemies with tho.

If you willingly accept and hand over your money for the price. Then you are accepting that the price was exactly right for the service that was provided to you

it's not "driving up medical costs"

it's the ENTIRE medical industry, you mong.

a CFO admitting in fucking 2013 that his hospital COULD NOT OPERATE if it didn't get $50,000,000 a year in "emergency medicaid" funding lmao

It cost 11k, the rest are made up numbers between the hopsitla and insurance

If they dont do it they will be deported for antisemitism

Before insurance our baby (2 day hospital stay) cost us ~$30-35k in Texas. After insurance it cost us $8,300 total. $4000 deductible with low deductible insurance through Aetna, then because it's an 80-20 split for costs after deductible we owed another $4,300. That includes stuff that insurance didn't cover. We will be paying that off for the next 1.5 years. Shit is radicalizing, especially hearing how cheap it was for our parents and grandparents to be born. Did you know Dolly Parton's parents paid the doctor who delivered her with a fucking SACK OF OATS?!?!?! Fuck this country's healthcare system.

Nurse and doctor get like 1% the rest goes to shareholders and executives.

Just be poor and sign up for Medicaid

This 40000 is like hiring a private specialist to wipe your ass with alcohol wipes and cut for a month or two.

that's the price you stupid faggot. You can risk it and have the baby at home without a doctor.

Credit Score

pay with cash you dumb fuck. people with credit scores are slaves.

Being charged for producing another productive member of society is wild when you think about it.

You voted for this. This is the life you chose for yourself and your children. You've got like 10 B-2 stealth bombers about to rape Iran tho. Luxembourg and Sweden ain't got that.

pay with cash you dumb fuck. people with credit scores are slaves.

Midwit

have the baby at home without a doctor.

Haha the absolute state of Mutts.

You can risk it and have the baby at home without a doctor.

Oh you mean the way it has been done world wide for the past 300,000 or so years? Go figure.

I had a baby recently, this is pretty accurate.

The bills total around $40k. After insurance, it's $12k, which is the out-of-pocket max for my insurance. Meanwhile, the government leeches pay nothing for their future criminals.

Demographics are destiny, and this country is doomed if we don't fix this soon. We're incentivizing the worst of the population to have kids, while simultaneously chilling the most productive.

Infant and maternal mortality is about to exceed Camaroon levels in America kek.

i just don't get this.

if you are so smart just pretend to be one of the retarded and get everything for free?

Having a baby costs $40K

Getting married in the West circa 2025 will eventually cost a man alot more after the divorce rape.

You spineless white cowards relentlessly enable all of this

If you white faggots actually cared you would do something about it. You clearly love this system as you all get up every single day to go be loyal wagies prop all of this up. If you whites stayed home for even 48 hours all of this would collapse instantly

You can't. They get government insurance that pays for everything. If you have a job, you're not eligible, and you need to use your workplace insurance. It's not about who you say you are, or what you say you can afford.

And you might think about lying about your identity, like some people do for emergency visits. Except you can't for a birth, because you need to establish who you are so you can make sure your kid is legally yours. It's an inverted two-tiered system where success is punished.

What are wage garnishments and liens

not for medical debt

t. has fat medical debt

This. We keep having kids but don't pay
anymore. If fat gobliernas can just jump the border and shit out a kids for free so can my wife

MEDICAL BILLS DO NOT AFFECT YOUR CREDIT IN AMERICA
THEY CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO YOU IF YOU DON'T PAY MEDICAL BILLS
AT MOST THEY WILL CALL YOU A LOT AND EVENTUALLY SELL YOUR BILL TO A COLLECTION AGENCY THAT WILL THEN CALL YOU MORE

No it doesn't. It's free, aside from the food the mother must eat.
What you meant to say was

Go to the hospital so DRs can poison and mutilate your child costs 40k

Yeah, it tells the kikes how much of good goy you are.
How much of a good goy are you?
If you have anything higher than a zero....You lose.

Kike detected.

The US already has the highest infant mortality rate of any first one world country.
I would wager not giving birth at the hospital would improve that.

Having basic economic literacy does not a kike make

Do you understand how lynching capitalists works?

You shouldn't pay a doctor to do something any schlub off the street with a catcher's mit can do for a bottle of vodka.
That's like paying them to put your socks on. Its dumb.

You guys still getting paid huh?

tard take

Who is "we?" Are there lots of single moms and baby daddies on Anon Babble? Expecting future welfare kweens who are worried about having their onlyfans sessions interrupted? Need some more context here, anon.

If you mean we invade India and enslave pajeets and bring them over here and have them deliver babies for free, then that's a really innovative and creative solution to the problem. Plus they get to touch your vagene. Honestly, props on that idea. We might figure this issue out yet!

40 grand + tip

Save you stupid kike. Invest. You absolutely do not NEED a "good" credit score.
Loans are for slaves.
Here is all the financial "literacy" you need schlomo

Do I have enough cash to buy it?

Yes

Do I NEED to buy it?

Whatever the answer to question 2 is, is the end. If you think it's not. Youre a kike, or goy, simple as

Loans are for slaves.

Midwit af. Sad

medical debt is weighed very little in credit reports.
it doesn't even appear if it's under $500. credit bureaus have been phasing out medical debt from their factoring in lockstep with .gov regulations
i used to work in a rental office and we didn't give a shit if prospective tenants had medical debt
consumerfinance.gov/about-us/newsroom/cfpb-finalizes-rule-to-remove-medical-bills-from-credit-reports/
maybe you shouldn't be calling other people retarded in this thread here bucko

The only tard itt is you, because youre either a kike or a goy.

Sorry you got the short straw when it came to IQ :/

they want to have white children and yet get slapped with this bs cost. what do you mean you have no sympathy?

Debt=Slavery
You utter moron.
I bet you think federal taxes go to schools military and programs and shit too huh?

Debt=Slavery

Bro we get it, you're dumb. You don't have to keep telling us.

Lol

t.152

Proctored. I'm not the retard with massive debt, yet I own a home and two cars.
I don't even have to pay property taxes.
How much debt you got goy?

lol nope

Bro fuck your goy score. I bet you're childless and rent even.

I live in TN and can confirm this, they charged us 4k for "nursery care" when the kid never left our site.

Cringe post tardboi

What site was that?

REEEEEEEEEEE

lol stupid

Post debt...

yeah big midwit who realizes ricch people dont have credit score because they are the ones lending you the money lol. You pay them back, with interest. You slave.

Only midwits fall for credit scam. The dumbest and smartest do not touch it.

We don't, because nobody pays this. It's covered by insurance, or if it's not it's covered by the hospital. You simply do not pay, niggers and spics have known this forever. You cannot be taken to collections for medical care, there are no consequences.

This is also a thing that happens because most people are functionally illiterate /arent going to read the final bill and usually someone else is paying

Europoor thinks that because he doesn't see how the doctor is paid it must be free lol. All that "free" shit is why you are poor.

Rn just mortage and car loan really.

people dont have credit score because they are the ones lending you the money lol.

Stupid and disingenuous take to frame only the trillionaire banking families as "the rich"

Just

Lol, good goy

Those in power owns your arse.

CPS: We have for less.

Yes not very much. May try to get more soon

Holy fuck what a moron.

just had a kid. cost me $0. health insurance covered the hopsital/epidural left me with 3k to pay. assurance hospital stay insurance covered the 3k. aflac covered the maternity leave since my wife works. grandparents cover the nannying. i just got a $3k tax credit from the gov too. so basically i made 3k having a kid. idk how people are getting shafted like OP's pic

My cat only cost $120 to get shots and neutered and he is a lot less expensive to feed. A baby is a poor choice.

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t. Angry midwit

Lol

Sup rabbi

you get fleeced on billable hours, some deliveries can have 3 different doctors in the room plus nurses and surgical staff for a procedures where you can spend hours in the room, then be sent to a "post" room under the supervision of more nurses for hours, then be sent to another room for extended stay under another set of nurses for the length of time in the hospital. it's not unusual to be billed 3-5k for an ambulance ride, imagine a delivery experience with 10-15 different people and days of time.

a CFO admitting in fucking 2013 that his hospital COULD NOT OPERATE if it didn't get $50,000,000 a year in "emergency medicaid" funding lmao

okay, but you just found the tip of the iceberg on this.
we need an update.
Obamacare was an attempt at spreading the cost to everyone through insurance mandates. it failed.
do you know what the next bailout was for our hospital system?
it was the COVID-19 scamdemic. the federal government was paying hospitals throughout the country big money to kill patients with experimental treatments that didn't work. the bailout continues to this day. hospitals are being paid big money to promote vaccination for all kinds of meme diseases.

now, do you understand why they're not reporting this in mainstream media anymore?
the bailouts have come in. no need to report on the problem when the solution has been implemented

Aspen is my fucking dog's name lmao.

their daughter Aspen

Niggerbrained NPC libtards choosing the most insufferable names possible for their got spawn

If medical debt isn't counted in credit then we should probably just have max price caps on what they can charge, with some kind of tax writeoffs for insurance companies on expensive shit, so we have a functional system instead of ultra retarded jewish bullshit.

600 for a mortgage is cheaper than any rent

they'll just replace you

Got any kids bud?

NOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO LET THE FREE MARKET OF INSURANCE CARTELS AND MEDICAL CARTELS DETERMINE PRICES BETWEEN EACH OTHER NOOOO

That is simply not true. I had a baby with basic insurance and he stayed in NICU for an entire week after the birth. The bill after my basic insurance was $800. So you are full of shit

If people can just ignore debt then it's not even free market anymore it's just retarded.

You know what's even cheaper than that?
No mortgage.
Become a zogbot for a bit, get "hurt" rangle up a 100% rating and you don't even have to pay property taxes.

It depends on your insurance. It cost me $12k total because I capped out, biggest individual bill was over $9k. Pre-insurance cost was around $40k.

You must have a really solid plan, but if you looked at your bills, I'm sure the unadjusted amount was at least $20k.

Giving birth is a natural process.

Natural process doesn't mean safe.
Babies and wives have a high chance of dying without decent medical treatment.

I already have a 3% fixed rate mortgage and a couple paid off reliable cars, I no longer have to pretend I care about my goy score

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This is what we get for tariffing China.

give birth at home
use cloth diapers
breastfeed
blend your own baby food
the hard part is finding a woman who understands the importance of these things

Yea?

Vasec'd with no regrets. I'm off demiurge's wild Jewish debtcoaster when I'm gone and not sending any more customers to it

just work 60 hours a week and live like a fucking serf while everyone else helps themselves to your money, goy!

live in supposedly the most advanced times

do a shitkickin frontier birth and raise your own chickens because shit is so fucked

Shanequa gets it all for free

Kool kope. Totally unacceptable just 50 years ago.

Don't forget delayed clamping.
Avoid vaccines
And no circumcision.

Found the jew

Let's be real, you spineless white cowards are never going to do anything about this anyway, so you have to adapt to reality

have hospital bill

throw in garbage

no longer have hospital bill

Yea taxes are bad

That baby looks a little undeveloped.

I can't comprehend this thread. I have 4 kids, and every full 3-to-5 days service at the hospital for my wife (private room), + months of medical care before every birth, cost me something like 50 bucks overall. Also my country is full of brownies so to each his own I guess.

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I'd pay everyone's hospital bills to not live in France

I adapt by not giving a fuck.

Muh legacy

Don't care. The world dies when I do, and without us shitting out soldiers for Israel and people to fix your problems your worthless brown kids will have to deal with it. Have fun with the stone age.

My sister has 3 kids out of wedlock with her fiance of 7 years. Supposedly medicaid or medicare w/e pays for EVERYTHING if you're a "single" "jobless" pregnant girl. So if they weren't married and she was a stay-at-home mom she wouldn't pay a dime.

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The midwife for my last two kids cost me a total of $6500 and some old bedsheets

What a slut

Believe what you want, you retarded hick. Make more kids for this treadmill that lets no good deed go unpunished. Fuck your fat wife and make more soldiers for Zion and pay for Tyrone's kids. Just 40k a pop.

And the replacement doesn't pay either so what's the point?

Wtf... the people of that town should collectivize and form an angry mob if that's the whole story. I don't go to see the doctor ever nor am I in the habit of giving birth, so I don't know what cost is typical but kind of shakedown is worthy of a riot or two. But of course they won't because America, and especially white America, is fully pacified.

I think her fiance browses Anon Babble because she sounds more like a white supremacist every time I talk to her now.

Doubt it

anti natalism llm in over drive

Lol

Lolk

How many. Also, own your house? Mortgage means no, by the way.

The kids are from another man's jizz? Yeah that tracks.

You don't have to pay hospital bills.

Mortgage means no,

Incorrect.
You can have a physological discussion about "ownership" if you want, but legally it's owned

having baby is free if you dont go to the hospital though.. too dumb to not get scammed is a sign not to have offspring..

doesn't apply to medical bills

Then don't.
Lol. Have your kid wherever you want. Just stop crying and trying to ruin life for those of us who appreciate medical care existing.

Whites are such beaten down, demoralized cowards that their only wik condition is "after are dead everything gets worse heh heh"

It's true all the real men died in the world wars, what a race of disgusting cucked worms

Lmao keep coping you deluded faggot

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I don't know what cost is typical

This is typical. Before insurance, birth typically costs from $15k to $50k. The final, post-insurance cost depends on your plan. Government gibs plans cover all of it, so you owe nothing. Regular insurance you'll have a deductible. High deductible plan or weak plan and you owe five figures.

As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, it's a backwards incentive. Kids are free when you're getting gibs, but can cost a fortune if you have a job.

I got 4 kids but only one at the hospital, the rest we had at home. Didn’t even have any help, just need 3 things, a clamp for the umbilical cord, a fishing scale for weighting and those big panty diaper looking things for the woman to bleed and goop into afterwards. Hospitals for birthing just create most of the complications they then save you from.
Tbh I should be able to bill my government the same amount the hospitals do. Afterwards you get the hilarious task of registering the kid with authorities that have never dealt with it before to get the kid gibs. Sure, should keep the kid off the books but idc, I want the gibs. Also haven’t vaccinated any of them and they still haven’t got a single one of the diseases they ”lack” protection against. Modern medicine is a joke and a fraud

I don't have insurance because I draw my own income and doubt I'd qualify for medicaid either. Fuck me then. Good thing I wasn't planning on it because this place is hell and if there are any women who aren't either dumb, ugly or too slutty to take seriously, they are rare enough that I'm never going to meet one. Great time in history to be a nihilistic hedonist.

Rich people complaining they have to pay for shit and doing so for attention

This is all this is, anyone who is poor can get on Medicaid, because it's proof you're poor. These motherfuckers are loaded and mad someone made them pay something for once in their spoiled lives.

Should have just been poor.

Greatgradma delivered grandma during the pause of field work, on her own, rolled her up in her dirty skirt, and stayed in filed till they were done with work.
Gradnma is now 91 years old

cope

survivorship bias

Cost me $6000 and we did it at home. Kid is developmentally leaps and bounds ahead of other kids her age.

midwife is $3700, had baby at home.
She even brought us donuts after the birth instead of charging us for holding our baby in our room.
Worth every penny. Why do retards go to the hospital for that shit? Unless you're high risk or your baby is showing abnormal on scans, there's no reason to go.

I can comprehend that tho.

Jackson TN hospital

This is a society that deserves to die off.

just have an at home birth bruh. then get charged with first degree murder and child abuse because your baby dies or something stupid

And people are saying Luigi was in the wrong when he clearly wasn't.

Kike slave screeches

How many kids bro

Bullshit story or shr was a tetard without insurance. She had 9 months leading up to it to get insurance. Max out of pocket is never that high

Is she a flight attendant? They hate Jews cause they have to deal with them.

My max in-network out-of-pocket is $12k. It's less for an individual, but higher when you have a family. Individual max within the family is $6500, but they're going to max mom out, then max the family out with the baby.

Holy shit that looks painful. I'm never EVER having kids. Abortions all the way from now on

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So, you guys just live there now?
Or do you own the hospital?

This is why i'm back on here

Luigi the Saint did nothing wrong.
T(((K)))D

No one but paid propagandists is saying that

we're gonna teach you how to be poor, faggot

if u are al salvadorian, cuban or venezuelan immigrant woman u dont have to pay for anything. u dont even need a baby daddy.

I'm not answering your goalpost shift question

The bank owns it, not you. And even if you pay them all their money, the state owns your home, not you.

Actually is free if you put them to work in the mines.

Like I said, if you want to have a philosophical discussion about what ownership is, fine, but no legally I am the owner.

weird. i had a baby and paid nothing

The absolute state of this sniveling faggot lmao

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Lel

shaqwandra chimpanzita didnt pay a dime for her 12 glets.

OHhh theyre white, thats 10 gorillion+tip

TOUGH LUCK RETARDS YOU GET WHAT YOU TOLLERATE.

I don't get it. I didn't have insurance for our daughter because I knew it was a scam that wouldn't help.

We had insurance on our firstborn

Insurance was a crock of shit, paid for it all year, they didn't help with a dollar

Actually was told I SAVED MONEY because the ultrasound costs more if they bill insurance instead of paying directly then and there

Anyway...

We stayed overnight and even with the epidural SHE SAID SHE WASN'T GONNA GET THIS TIME we ended up paying $3k, that was in 2021.

Without the stupid epidural that she got like a minute before the dang girl dropped out it would have been $1k less.

How on God's green earth do you get charged 40k? I just don't get it.

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It's not a philosophical discussion. You must give someone else money for the home. In perpetuity. If you don't, you will be removed and it will be sold to someone else. You own the car, the dragon dildos you bought, the camera you use to make tranny porn. Those you own. Someone would literally have to steal them to remove them from your possession. You have no need or obligation to continue using resources to keep them in your possession. The house though...Stop giving resources, and someone WILL "legally" remove your control of the home from you. You do not own your home, and you never will. You're just renting it from the state. And I don't care if it's just a dollar a decade. It's the principle.

My wife and I are aggressively anti vax because too many deaths and weird shit in both our families immediately following scheduled vax visits with relatives' kids/dead kids. We just had our second and now the local anti vax mom groups are saying the only women's hospital in our network now requires expectant moms to agree to CDC recommendations for the mom and unborn kid in advance. Needless to say, a Jew is in charge of the maternity part of this particular medical mega campus.

He is just coping for fear of facing the truth and realizing how much of a goy he is.
To which if he does, he will very likely anhero.

not a philosophical discussion.

proceeds to define ownership differently than the current legal definition

You played yo self fool

It's free in Israel

It costs nothing. Dumb mutts spend tens of thousands to get their children circumcised and molested

My kids were both $200. Try having insurance. Or just don't pay the bill like an illegal, they can't do anything about it.

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Youre coping.
You do not now, nor will you ever own your home. You're just living there.

NOOOOOO U COPPPEEEEEE

lolk

hospital

do npcs not know you can have babies at home for free?

Women are such faggots that they need to pretend that childbirth is the HARDEST MOST DIFFICULT AND PAINFUL THING EVER TO HAPPEN TO A WOMAN.
That shit looked easier than the double burrito I had to shit out today.

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We know Sweden ain't got shit for burritos

What are they going to do if they refuse? Abort the baby? What happens when someone eventually refuses, then up and fucking dies giving birth in a Wendy's bathroom? That will not be a good look for them.

Don't they make you a debt slave?

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They changed the law so medical debt doesn't affect credit score.

Whites are such spineless fucking cowards it's literally unreal

Just identify as an illegal invader, they don't have to pay shit.

Guys like that need to hyper aggressively lie to themselves every day or they will eat a bullet, you are 100% correct. I meet a lot of that type at work

Can the medical debt can be enforced?

Americans are the most brainwashed goodest goy slaves on earth

My kids were both $200. Try having insurance.

Hello Boomer, this isn't the 1950s. Everyone in a Hospital waiting room is either old or brown.

enforced

Enforced how? They'll have collections call you for a while. Unlikely to fo through the trouble of garnishing wages etc

I agree with you. Also see it as an awful investment now in 2025 USA unless it's inherited. Only way I'd buy is if I was a millionaire and it was like buying an old car is today. Rather hoard my money and leverage it to do other stuff. But I know a lot of you here larp that having kids is the grand purpose in life and not just another con when the wife files for divorce and your only son inevitably troons out or becomes a filthy neolib. I am fully alienated and passed that and slipped into my own spacestream.

because women are stupid and think it's the "proper" way to do things.

there is no reason to do most of this stuff. they're just neurotic and think their child will turn out retarded if they don't pay all this money and do all of these things.

Can the medical debt can be enforced?

Try asking the 200 million plus browns that