Who wins?
My 2nd Amendment.
Iceland wins
Trump chuds BTFO
Yeah it's very much over for the new white
someone's house
Forgot picture. How do chuds argue against the constitution?
Illegal immigrants have zero constitutional protections. Retarded niggerfaggot libcucks always forget this.
The CIA by successfully domestic Gladio'ing you into coyly threatening federal agents on the internet, justifying more police state repression
enter someone's house illegally
How do chuds argue against the constitution
If we followed it like it was intended we would of never had niggers or other 3rd worlders living in the U.S.
You get what you fucking deserve
Jews
whoever applies force successfully
Because, like the Bible, they never fucking read it. They get all of their information about US civics from Twitter, reddit, and youtube.
Illegally breaks into your country
Why isn't the law preventing them from illegally entering my house?
if ICE violates the constitution
Yeah, okay. Get back to me when that actually happens.
You retards have let all of the other 3-letter agencies violate the constitution millions of times and not said a peep. The left doesn't have any consistency when it comes to valuing the constitution so they can kick rocks.
The constitution only applies to american citizens.
Lawyers
durr if a bunch of pigs enter someone's home even though they werent supposed to and a deadly firefight ensues then uhhhhhh well they shouldn't have
checkmate, people who don't want illegals
protip government agencies do whatever they want
Like this retard here, for example. He legitimately doesn't even understand the entire purpose of 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments were almost exclusively for niggers. They are legitimately special education.
And he's allowed to vote.
Ice wins, and the idiot homeowner gets killed or sent to prison for being a harborer
Okay. I think you are an illegal immigrant and I am going to sodomize you and deport you to el salvador for posting mean things about israel on Anon Babble. You have no opportunity to prove you aren't an illegal immigrant because due process is only for citizens
illegals gassed for shooting feds
feds shot
america wins
ICE wins, simply because THEY are the government, also, you don't have any rights as an illegal.
Thank god AethistGirl had an opinion It totally changed my mind guys.
I win after ICE uses this as justification to firebomb illegals before entering
All of these worthless fucking lefty women acting so tough on the internet. She probably has a Luigi shrine in her bedroom too.
Yes.
The government because leftists have no guns. They deserve this for enforncing their gender hypnosis on elementary school children.
The modus operandi of the Biden government
2A doesn't apply for illegals.
If you're harboring illegals, you are committing a felony, so 2A doesn't apply to you either.
It's literally that simple. How are leftards this retarded?
I doubt the constitution applies to invaders who are not American citizens.
Pretty obviously.
Why do The Woking Dead enjoy wasting peoples time like this
I say brief stupid things
you have to waste effort correcting it
and I also doubt that atheist girl is a girl, the picture resembles an elderly man in a wig stollen off a rocking horse.
The government does not make money. They government takes taxes from it's citizens to pay for things.
Illegal aliens have lots of needs and no way to pay. The government must provide.
As the government does not make money without you, YOU in fact pay for the illegal aliens.
Do you want to feed, clothe and house the entire fucking planet? Are you morally obliged to?
What the literal fuck is wrong with you people?
These same people would give you nothing. Their governments would do nothing for you. they would never allow you to stay for free in their house. They would not go out of their way to embrace your customs and religion.
Really, what are you lot on?
Constitution only applies to citizens
The audience
Kys kike
They can enter to stop a crime.
They can enter to stop a crime. Being here illegally is a crime.
libshits now clinging to the constitution
over illegals
lol the world is fucked
Illegals don't have 2nd amendment rights.
If I as a Swede came as a LEGAL TOURIST, I can't own a gun and protect any property where I lived.
I would not have 2nd amendment.
Oestrogen & Chlorpromazine.
Curry & But not the loo.
Those are the two main vectors of garbage posts from shitheads.
*attention seeking, 72 iQ’ed, grottiest people.
Aliens don't have rights.
Invite them into your home if you want them here so much. Sponsor them for a visa.
Homeowner brutally beats ICE Agent about the head with copy of the constitution
ILLEGAL MIGRANTS ARE NOT US CITIZENS THEREFORE NOT UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF AMERICAN LAWS.
Death by paper cut
why are leftoids brigading as if they even own guns? remember the "we can't own guns because we are disabled you ableist" or the "if i owned a gun i would use it on myself" threads? geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg
I thought this tranny wanted to ban guns though.
black people kill many people every day but leftists only wake up when there is a school shooting once in a blue moon kek
Entering is a crime, and they will definitely end up stopping.
The Constitution does not grant rights. It simply enshrines the rights that every man born on Earth has. However, If they did not legally purchase the property then it's not their dwelling in the first place.
Stay mad niggerfaggot
Most rank and file liberals can't even spell jurisdiction much less understand its use in the 14th amendment.
Imagine the meltdown when the SC inevitably rules against anchor babies too.
The feds win every single time
Shoot a federal LEO? Go to jail
atheist
Into the trash.
Maybe in your state...
codes.findlaw.com
kek
the dead guy will be free
illegals dont have Constitutional Rights.
So when are all these people openly supporting organised crime getting rounded up?
this, force always wins. no such thing as a "right", only what you're given, or what you take.
Depends:
Citizen not harboring illegal
2nd Amendment
Citizen harboring illegal without warrant or probable cause
2nd Amendment
Citizen harboring illegal with warrant or probable cause
I.C.E.
Non-citizen in any possible scenario
I.C.E.
An additional amendment that was written by a jew, required assassinating a President, coercing a second president, and then got veto'd and had to be forced through by thuggery ignoring the law and daring the national guard to independently storm Washington and hang those involved.
Yeah, I'm gonna go with invalid.
What if I'm born with male DNA in 78% of my cells though?
Nothing they say or believe makes sense so they're required to be obtuse, facetious, dishonest, and ignorant to exist or interact with others in any measurable way
Ruby Ridge, baby. But I agree, go in guns a'blazing on these illegals.
Anon Babble wins
illegals are not protected by the constitution
this makes retard rightoids seethe, but this is absolutely wrong. the Constitution is an acknowledgement in inalienable GOD-GIVEN rights possessed by everyone. they are not rights granted by the government. whether or not someone is a citizen has no bearing on whether or not someone possesses those rights. if the Constitution didn't exist, the rights still would. the Constitution is merely a formal acknowledgement of those pre-existing rights.
so yes, illegals have constitutional rights. Whether or not the government chooses to acknowledge them is another story, but they are most certainly infringing on them. whether or not you can practically sue the gov as a non-citizen is probably why infringing doesn't matter in practice.
And they shoot back and kill you. Congrats you suicided by cop. What an accomplished life
Wrong. You might take some of them with you but your life is over.
The left looses voters as they don't support peoples right to bare arms.
Whoever has the most guns. So ICE.
You have to be 18 to post here.
good thing we are discusing what is legal and not what the spirit making the distinction void. As well if you want to play that game I can play devils advocate and say non whites were not given thos rights by spirit of the document as they werent considered men and the founders never implied shit skins had equal rights from god.
given
You are retarded and don't know how to read. The rights are not given by any earthly entity. The founders didn't give them. The USG didn't give them. They are granted by God and inalienable. The only way non-whites wouldn't have them is if you can argue that God does not consider non-whites human.
yes the founders said they were given by god god did not say that so the premis is you believe the FOUNDERS that god gave them the same FOUNDERS that did not think it applied to shit skins.
Again GOD has never said anything about rights we are simply upholding the founders interpretation of GODS intention.
Illegals are not protected by the constitution but green card holders are.
So green card holders can use their gun to shoot any ICE that illegally enters their homes.
It should be obvious that due process for an illegal is getting rounded up by feds since naturalization is a power explicitly delegated to congress. And also that Zion Don is more interested in going after citizens and legal residents than illegals. Hence, both sides are doing their parts to muddy the waters and the status quo will be maintained.
this
Lets imagine a scenario where and illegal entered from his native country that wants to charge him for speech laws that would violapte the illegals rights if he was a citizen the US government would not automatically protect the illegal from extradition since.....the illegal does not have inalianable first amendment rights.
Why the fuck are we granting USA citizen rights to foreigners?
muh founders are the authority on my rights!
what part of "self-evident" don't you understand? do you need your mother to tell you to wipe your ass too? or is it self-evident?
Power decides law, not the other way around. The Constitution is just a convenient framing device for justifying the boot when necessary.
I bet he doesn't even make his bed
what is a warrant
what is legal entry
what is "illegal immigrants don't have rights"
doesnt matter, 'you wont do shit' is all you need to tell her
are you a child? like literally a retarded man at best?
GOD has not ever spoken on the motherfucking subject. The reason the government believe that this is gods intention is through the interpretation and LITERAL words of the founders therfore I dont have to argue against the same founders intention that they obviously did not consider those rights to shit skins since their actions shown that.
you are like a fucking christcuck mixed with a retarded liberal lmfao worse type of person.
DO YOU REALLY THINK GOD TOLD THE FOUNDERS PERSONALLY THIS WAS HIS WILL?
this. even if you survive and win the case, the process is the punishment
So now the 2nd amendment matters when Pablo doesn’t want to be sent back home?
Whoever shoots first
Aiding and abetting is illegal. Killing federal agents is not self defense. You will either spend the rest of your life in prison or they will load entire clips into you and burn your house down.
the fucking funniest part is illegals cant get guns and the left is okay with this since they dont actually think they have the same rights as us.
they wont ever adress this contradiction
literally doesn't understand the meaning of "self-evident"
delegates all thinking to someone smarter than him
has to be told what to believe
lmao
checkmate chuds, I'll use my 2nd amendment right to shoot ICE trying to raid my house for illegals
what do you mean the presence of illegals made the search lawful?
what do you mean I'm facing federal time for murder?
but I checkmated the chuds!
self evident is a word written by the fucking founders not by god you fucking retard lmfao you understand that right?
their thoughts on shit skins rights are self evident by their actions as well.
still doesn't understand what self-evident means
i get it now. you're an NPC, and you have no self, so you can't grasp "self-evident."
The average American deserves a jack boot shoved down their throats.
I'd say a solid 30%-40% of the people here should be kicked out forcefully and we all know it.
Quite frankly, empower the people to round them up themselves.
I really don't care, and it'd be nice if the garbage in the left would stop pretending they care too.
the founders could of used the word obviously and it still is their own interpretation fagot lmfao self evident being written down by a man is not a magic spell that makes it ACTUALLY the intention and word of god. JESUS you are fucking bad at this.
People who arrested people and held them without trial and orchestrated the invasion of our country suddenly care about due process, the constitution and democracy
Does the US constitution apply to invaders in your country? If so mind=blown
Wow, some random nobody has an opinion on social media!
harboring fugitives is a criminal offense that warrants a search.
2nd amendment. They would then be deported for illegally entering the country.
Europe wins
we get to laugh at you either outcome
they can enter your house and take you off for saying shit on the intnernet and you have zero recourse TODAY
lmfao
no they can't you nigger lol
watch
..
you're a nigger
someone saying its self-evident does not make it self-evident!
yes, exactly. you're starting to understand what self-evident actually means. self-evident means it's obviously true and that if you think about it even a little bit, you can see it for yourself.
which is why it's so funny that you keep referring to the founders as the authorities on our rights. if you understood self-evident, you can derive the same conclusions that they do, without them. but you can't, cuz you're smolbrain
> You should take my argument in good faith because I say so. No I won't allow you to argue in the same fashion as that goes against my deeply held principles that I found out about when TV told me to think them.
Okay, no.
I am sure those videos are all fake.
they got arrested for incitement
just like the people in YOUR country who got arrested for incitement against shitwood
wtf is this retarted post about lmfao
nothing YOU say will make the words writtent by the founders the ACTUAL intentions of god if hes even real to beginwith you are a christcuck and a liberal cunt at the same time.
your logic the founders were so tuned up into gods belief that they wrote it exactly right and went home and kept their slave shit skins without rights. You cant have it both ways.
the truth is the founders did not see shit skins with rights being self evident to anyone.
incitment of violence your people literally get arrested for making non violent statements.
and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
They are still subject to whatever country they come from. Being an illegal born on American soil doesn't mean the gov gains exclusive subjectivity over that individual. Even if you somehow overcome that legal hurdle their parents aren't being deprived life liberty or property being deported. Even if that was ruled true it only applies to citizens, not illegals
nope.
let me tell you about your country
kek
muh freedumbs of speech
except if you criticise israel or a boomer sheriff
megakek
The post in question was reportedly an image mocking the many evolutions of the LGBT/transgender pride flag by reshaping it into a swastika
winslowlawyers.com
I can do this all night and post the shit you all get arrested for.
you literally just tried to say you are laughing at us while being in a OBJECTIVELY more anti freedom country.
This is the argument you btfo faggot lol
let me show you a thing that's a half truth and conceals the rest of the story
you're a nigger lol
need to use half-truths and fake news to "win" an argument online
MEGAKEK
i'll TLDR it for you, he put up stickers that also said kill niggers.
you don't believe in God though, why do you keep referring to Him?
Rights are man made. God grants no rights, he only grants duties and virtues.
Go pray and shut the fuck up.
you literally lied and said people got arrested for saying naughty words lol meanwhile you people got arrested for insulting a sheriff
who has bigger gun
I do believe in a god not one that gives a shit about the rights of man or how we govern ourselfs. But if I did not me refering to him has no bearing on the point I am making is that no one still knows his intention even if you believe in him
no nigger I just posted someone arrested for posting a naughty meme lmfao tell me whats fake about it.
you get arrested for crossing the road or collecting rainwater lol
post source that he posted those stickers.
google it yourself nigger
we can literally post stickers that say kill niggers lmfao its not a specifc threat.
They can just give away free cookies at the Walmart parking lot
All the fat ugly beaners will come out of hiding
AND THEN - BAM!
thank you, thank you
I'll be here all week
Jews because in such event Patriots will be deemed terrorists and the Jewish control of America will be complete.
Lol like that isn't already happening here in the US? Trump has stated he will deport antisemites.
uhhh but Trump is just talking about the Muslims who side with Palestine, those are the antisemites he's going to deport!
Good luck with that. Do you really think Trump is going to entertain for a second Anon Babble style antisemitism in real life? He'd deport any one of us in a moment if there werent bigger fish to fry. Good ole Zion Don glad to have him back in office, Israel's greatest ally.
can you cross the road though
lmao
It simply enshrines the rights that every man born on Earth has.
No it doesn't.
The Constitution dictates how the state is organized and indicates limits to government power.
It doesn't 'enshrine' anything dumbass.
you cant deport citizens.... everything else I dont give a shit about.
natural law isn't real and doesn't originate from God
lol
I do believe in a god not one that gives a shit about the rights of man or how we govern ourselfs.
You don't believe in God then. You're vaguely spiritual but are actually worshipping evil.
muh illegal
it was never about that
The federal government, of course. We fought a Civil War over this.
I think pretty much everyone wins in this scenario.
in the designated spots yes if your really want to play stupid I can find all types of retarded laws your nation has we dont but we are discussing actual rights like freedom of speech and from being molested and search and seized.
you cant deport citizens
politico.com
the Constitution is an acknowledgement in inalienable GOD-GIVEN rights possessed by everyone.
No it isn't dumbass, you're thinking of the Declaration of Independence.
God damn you cock suckers are fucking stupid.
in the designated spots
DESIGNATED
lol
can only cross the road at DESIGNATED SPOTS
lol
lmao even
so yes, illegals have constitutional rights.
No, they don't.
Also harboring an illegal immigrant is a violation of Federal Law and you go to fucking prison for that cocksucker.
I'm sure that knowledge will keep you warm in your cell at Guantanomo Bay
IIRC: There was a guy in the US that got SWAT attacked and he killed one of the officers, he went to court and won.
No-knock raids do not announce when the intruder is a officer, therefor it's only reasonable for the occupant to assume that the attack is lethal and unlawful.
who wins?
If there's bodycam footage, the audience.
Lol this retard thinks man made concepts aren't created by God. What a retard
Yes, Natural law is also a man made concept. Nowhere in scripture nor tradition are "natural laws" ever touched. That is a philosophical concept, you mongrel
Trump administration officials said in court that the mother told ICE officials that she wished to take V.M.L. with her to Honduras.
lmfao you guys really suck up any shit they sell you
yes you cant even fly a kite in public
natural law is man-made
lmao holy fuck
so many NPCs here
Why doesn't Trump order criminal charges on all the state worders/volunteers and state politicians that created and maintain the sanctuary cities?
Maryland man (US citizen) deported to El salvador
US citizen child reported
ReEeEee it's fake news
says the nigger that uses fake news
lol
It's being worked on.
If you evade law enforcement ie enter the country illegally, how do you figure that the individual is "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"? They literally circumvented the law, evaded the process, broke the laws of the jurisdiction of which they claim to abide? Your reference to the Fourteenth amendment doesn't make it past the very first sentence!
What we call "natural laws" are human made descriptions for how we think parts of nature currently work. These descriptions tend to be proven wrong every 50-100 years and is replaced with theories/laws with greater explanatory power.
Humans do not know the truth, they can only seek it. Thus any descriptions human make will only ever be an attempt to understand, not an absolute fact.
You won’t know if they have a warrant or not at the moment they bust in. Won’t matter anyway if you start shooting. You’ll be dead in the end, warrant or not.
I am from baltimore faggot the guy from el salvado was a illegal are you this fucking late to that fact?
If ICE is entering your home, the constitution doesn't apply to you.
you do know the quote I used is from your source right?
Have you made it to the end of the sentence? It defines citizens of the US.
nor shall any State deprive any person
any person
Is it? Is Hillary going to jail being worked on too?
No. Trump is picking low hanging fruit of insignificant illegal to maintain enough face and gain enough attention without actually making a significant difference.
Trump could stop all immigration right now or order that immigrants only come from white countries. He doesn't do it.
B-b-b-b-ut the media says 'Maryland Man' and they believed them!
Don't forget who you're arguing with, retards.
Survival of the fittest is natural law, and God explicitly says to help the weak.
Must be a Catholic.
The one true Eastern Orthodox Church is waiting for you, retard. They always welcome another one
Is Hillary going to jail being worked on too?
No.
Dumbass.
What the fuck they gonna charge Hillary with? Being a cunt?
Trump could stop all immigration right now or order that immigrants only come from white countries.
Wrong.
why dont they have second amendment rights.
uses the constitution to defend themselves?
How so, by chucking the book at them?
So the beaners have an arsenal of illegal weapons? Ergo they get fucked regardless of cause.
Shit is truly fucked up when a leaf makes more objective sense than a burger.
You don't have constitutional rights when you commit a crime. Who else passed middle school?
Only citizens have constitutional rights.
What the fuck they gonna charge Hillary with? Being a cunt?
For whatever crimes she was committing that Hillary thought she needed to magnet wipe and smash wit hammer 14 electronic devices. Or examine where she got her hundreds of millions while on a politician salary. Etc.
That information is on a server somewhere, guaranteed the NSA has it.
interpretations of natural law does not imply natural law exists
sigh
Survival of the fittest is natural law
The fittest is defined by whatever survives.
The Constitution protects American citizens. But as you move down the ladder: Permanent resident (green card) > temporary visa > illegal, the case law shows you get fewer protections.
Explain to me why an illegal alien can own property?
So we just have to trust that ICE has our best interests at heart and they operate entirely beyond reproach? Will you be saying the same when Trump creates the JIDF brigade to start invading people's hones?
You're only playing the devil's advocate because you like spics. Papers please faggot.
I could say that hyperbolic shit about any adency ICE doing its fucking job by getting illegals out of the country is I see done here.
Born or naturalized AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
Illegal "anchor" baby does not qualify for all 3 points.
The fittest is defined by whatever survives.
Thank fuck God is explicitly against doctrines like that, else you wouldn't eve be here spewing such retardation.
Thank God im not Catholic.
agency*
Yea all of a sudden gun rights are incredibly important and the 2nd Amendment when liberals aren't in charge.
When they are, all of it needs to be done away with. They're ridiculous faggots.
So when Obama deported 5 million illegals - did they receive due process?
Only lawful American citizens have constitutional rights. But then again, I think it's past time we leaned on an 18th century political treatise to save ourselves. We are ruled by a cabal of international jewry, and there is only one solution for this.
interpretations of muslim doctrine means muslom doctrine is real.
You have a logical conundrum at hand my retarded brother.
I don't think illegals deserve due process. They should be immediately thrown out to fend for themselves. Sending them to another safe country is just an act of mercy.
Who are you calling a kike when you're the one defending parasitic outsiders staging a racial invasion into our lands? Then you're bitching about the white blood cell attacking the pathogen.
I have nothing but contempt for the constitution, if I had my way, I would have a evaluation soi state
But maybe if I use this argument against you, you'll do what I want.
Go ahead and suck start a revolver you disgusting freak.
Lol you didn't even get the point. The fittest is whatever survives, and God says "help people survive." and you think this is somehow a contradiction because you don't think for yourself.
How would they use the constitution to defend themself?
well if it's a beaner then they don't have rights, so the ice cop.
otherwise the homeowner wins
There is no evidence that "natural laws" outside of human descriptions actually exist. While it is possible there is some core natural phenomenon, it is not guaranteed that the natural phenomenon that emerges from the core can be adequately predicted.
We know, for example, that practically every single "natural law" that we have today has at least one fundamental and unsolved flaw. And we know that practically all the "constants" are changing over time. This indicates that anything beyond the core is in flux. Now comes the question "Is there even a core?" if there is no core phenomenon, or it too is subject to change over time, then nothing can ever be knowable.
Our understanding of science may have to be just as flexible as a pilot in the air. Yes, certain things may remain roughly understood, but things like turbulence can come about unexpectedly. And that may be us, our science may be proven right, wrong, or needing adjustments over and over again as we make adjustments to how nature changes unexpectedly.
There is absolutely nothing about nature that guarantees to us that it will remain certain or ascertainable. And even the idea of a fixed natural law may be wholly unnatural.
God never said "survive". He said reproduce and prosper. Help the weak and embolden the underdog. Literally the opposite of "Survival of the fittest". You are just engaging in sophist techniques that expose you for the absolute retard you are
The better question is why are leftoids so desperate to have cartel members shipped her? Is it just more spiteful mutant politics?
Illegal Aliens are do NOT have 2nd amendment rights. Whut dey gonna do? throw tacos at the agents?
You still don't understand what "fittest" is.
it means le heckin muscles and run fast!
"oy vey goy muh 2nd amendment tho!"
The kikes have truly lost the plot - that's like invoking the second ammendment after to defend some nigger, that shot up cops after they came to arrest him.
If kikes really think it's a good argument, they will get pogrommed soon - you can't maintain the zogs moral authority by being this lazy.
b-b-b-ut muh white women, muh libruls
Clitter is 90% bots a lot of them mossad bots, fed bots or jew run corporation/ngo bots and even if it is a White shitlib of some sort, some kike gave him a talking point and heavily implied that it gives him clout to say some shit so basically jewish messaging by proxy.
No point in even arguing about it, just point out it's jewis and retarded without explaining further, because addressing this retardation seriously gives it way more credibility than it deserves.
The United States Federal Government does not have the authority extend the rights of "the people" of the United States, to non-U.S. persons.
What you are saying implies that ITAR violations shouldn't be a thing.
It means "Might makes right". I can't even insult you anymore, it feels like beating a failed abortion to a pulp.
These are the same people that cheer when states violate the 2nd amendment btw
Oh, so I guess you can't charge all of those illegals for murder and drug dealing, anymore? Fucking retard.
You're not a US citizen.
Lol
Illegals aren't protected by the constitution
Illegals can't own guns, so ICE I guess. If the illegals have guns illegally, it only strengthens ICEs actions. What type of retard are you?
who wins?
jews
Survival of the fittest means "Might makes right".
lmao no. Fittest means it is the most suitable for the environment. It has nothing to do with might, except in environments where might is the most suitable factor.
Are you starting to get it now?
Faggot ive been shit talking likes longer than you've been alive. And I'd like to continue doing so without Zion Don's JIDF brigade knocking down my door. Used to be I'd fear a leftist getting me fired or ruining my livelihood for saying anything against the jew but now they openly criticize Israel while the right wing wants me deported for it. Fucking crazy how times change.
Does this same hyperbolic thought process not apply to other rights of ours that have been eroded? They constantly chip away at our gun rights, never outright banning firearms but taking away piece by piece, shifting the public view on what should be acceptable. Donald Trump has enacted more anti-gun laws than Obama.
They'll never come for your guns you dummy, we're just banning bump stocks that are totally unnecessary! Now go ahead and sign away your rights.
They'll never come for you, dummy. They're just getting rid of the brown people that speak poorly of jews! Now go ahead and sign away your rights.
ICE has only detained, arrested, and searched the homes of illegals
Tard.
you are le wrong! *no argument*
why do zoomers and libtards fail to understand how laws work?
I'm going to [schizo rambling]
Please don’t shit in the street
nothing can ever be knowable
I remember being in my twenties, a long long time ago.
An "illegal" is not a class of person other than being a criminal or someone accused of a crime. All people, foreign and domestic, are protected by the same rights in the Constitution.
If a foreigner commits a crime in the US, they have to be given their rights just as a domestic person.
Passing the border illegally just means they have broken the law, it doesn't stop them from being a foreign person subject to the same Constitution.
The 14th Amendment was specifically created to resolve the legal status of African Americans after the Civil War.
It was never meant to facilitate a Mexican invasion.
fuck no trump never banned any gun obama did so by stopping gun trade with russia during his term.
this is a weird as fuck cope i see posted from no gunz faggots
the other issue is a agency doing its job is what we are discussing if you are harboring a criminal the police can enter your home without a warrent. As for my personal beliefs said erosion and overreach being fixed will require the laws being bent the same in this instance I am okay if they do violate illegals precieved rights since the government bent my rights to allow them to stay through representation while being taxed among a litany of shit I can come up with.
There is no constitutional republic anymore, you gave it up years ago.
You specifically voted to end America and her legacy when you elected that Nigger who a created global surveillance state no I am not talking about that Nigger from Kenya, Im talking about that Hawk looking Judaic mason that killed Americans on September the 11th.
Whenever a political mouthpiece tries to use the constitution to justify something you just have to remind them that every single member of government is a traitor to the constitution and so there is no legitimacy to anything they say or any of the law they create.
Its an entirely illegitimate government, not just a left vs right, but its entirety.
From the police, from the judges, from the politicians, it is all unconstitutional.
Sadly their gaslighting machine will continue to run the same bullshit and so people stay in their little cages voting, working and paying taxes and importing more immigrants while claiming muh left or muh right.
We live in a world were might makes right.
nope that would imply is the illegal slept with a underage child that was legal in their country they could be prosecuted here for it or if their home country wanted to charge them with a crime that would violate their rights here such as freedom of speech that the US could stop them.
it has to work both ways
To know a natural phenomenon as truth, you would need to know this phenomenon in the present, past, and future and observe this phenomenon in all instances of space. This is to say, you must be omniscient. No human can be omniscient.
This is why modern science, formulated by scientific philosophers such as Lord Bacon and Karl Popper made it clear two points: Phenomenon can only be understand by the exact experiment instance that takes place, and two all theories laws are never be true, they can only be falsified or not yet falsified.
except in environments where might is the most suitable factor.
Im more deserving to hold the gold because i, with my intellect, know how to maintain it!
*niggers beat you to death*
BU- MU-MUH NATURAL LAW! IM FITTER FOR THIS SITUATION!!!!!
That's natural law, not your wishy washy "natural law is only about strength when i choose it to be so" you have no choice. Natural law is an academic man made theory of what God wants for us. It's not theology past some Thomist bs.
t. brainlet faggot who cannot read
Fifth Amendment begins, "No person shall be ...." Not citizen, but person. If the Founders meant citizen, they would have written it, because they use citizen elsewhere in the Constitution.
How do we know the 14th Amendment only applied to African Americans?
Because it *should* have equally applied to native born Indians. Instead they got their own legislation.
I'm sorry civnat, you're just going to have to keep seething.
What you said was unintelligible non-sense. If a foreigner enters a country and breaks that country's laws, then they are subject to that country's judicial authority. It doesn't matter what the laws are in the foreigner's country.
The only exception exists for diplomats and where countries have extradition treaties.
this
I also bring up that they werent counted in the census for years after because not everyone born in the US is given US rights and citizenship
So now they care about the 2nd Amendment?
The rights are not given by any earthly entity.
Which rights are self-evident and inalienable? Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men. Technically, God gives us wrongs, anyhow.
You shall not kill => the crime of murder => the punishment of death (legal killing, violation of the right to life)
You shall not bear false witness => the crime of perjury => the punishment of imprisonment (legal enslavement, violation of the right to liberty)
You shall not steal => the crime of theft => the punishment of restitution (legal theft, violation of the right to property)
But this presupposes a third party (the state) which arises under common agreement to be free from anarchy and despotism. In the context of a republic, this agreement is formalized through the contract of citizenship. In a state of nature (anarchy), there is no contract of citizenship, but there are self-evident inalienable rights. If someone tries to kill you, you can defend yourself to the death. If someone tries to steal your shit, you can kill them to get it back. If someone tries to enslave you, you can kill them. There is no right to free speech, there is no due process, you bring your own weapons. It's the wild west, nigger. But we live in a society based on the contract of citizenship. That is not an ought, that is an is. Some days I think the wild west would be an improvement.
*niggers beat you to death*
I live in a 99% white area. Fittest here means something different "fighting niggers the best," like where you live.
no nigger Americans are prosecuted yearly for going to other countries and fucking underage girls where it is legal there.
Because there are extradition treaties. A cooperating country will capture an American person having/attempting sex with a person below the American age of consent and then send them to the US for prosecution. They generally do not stay in the cooperating country.
thats the issue here if the illegal that came into the country now has Americans rights and subject to said jurisdiction they dont even need to be extradited to be prosecuted but arent.
millions of illegals come to the country leaving child brides in their home country and are never prescecuted
are you even following along?
(If)
OP is a fag.
Niggerism is only skin deep
the issue gets even crazier when you see some use child marriage to help their immigration petition
mollybkenny.com
cont.
voanews.com
Thousands of requests by men to bring in child and adolescent brides to live in the United States were approved over the past decade, according to government data obtained by The Associated Press. In one case, a 49-year-old man applied for admission for a 15-year-old girl.
the very basic law of this nature
"survival of the fittest"
those who survive win
Those who enter the US illegally aren't extradited to be prosecuted. They are prosecuted in the USA. They are then generally released.
Catch and release is a systemic problem the US has for practically all criminal law.
I haven't read your article. But some states in the USA, I believe, still allow what many would consider child marriage. And since marriage is a legal pathway to citizenship, I wouldn't be surprised if this happens.
Most of the child marriage (legal ones) happen between fanatical Christians and Mormons.
does not have the authority extend the rights of "the people" of the United States, to non-U.S. persons.
It 100% does.
Any right that applies to "people" versus "citizens" applies to everyone within the US. If a non-citizen is violating a "law" outside the US and is subject to that law the US has the right to refuse extradition if it believes that law violates their God Given rights in its own constitution. That is the true purpose of laws surrounding asylum within the US.
Liberals don't care about the constitution, they don't even understand it or where it came from, they just interpret whatever x amendment is to their own nigger brained desires. just fake it and LARP till you make it.
Now even white women are fucking retarded enough to believe whatever fiction is shat into their ears about muh constitution by their sycophant gay media.
This is why every liberal city more or less bans guns because they don't fucking care about the constitution.
They will flip flop from it's just a piece of paper to it's the second coming of liberalism and feminism and must be protected.
They also flip flop from removing states police and then removing the peoples self defence in the 2nd amendment (somehow...,perhaps with liberal nigger witchcraft when police no longer exist)
Overall you have to have an IQ of either below 90 or above 130 to be liberal, the 130 IQ's are just evil and understand what they are doing, the elites that benefit from the destruction of western societies and being subversive wherever possible to milk the cow, enriching themselves whichever way humanly possible from the Brownification. The lower IQ's just get bussed around and fed talking points without even understanding what America even is or who their ancestors were just like some Idiocracy imitation.
Moral ofthe story, liberalism and any form of communism,progressivism is antithetical to the constitution,seeking to undermine, ignore or just outright destroy and therefore these ideologies should just be banned and if you're found pushing/teaching anti-constitutional liberal shite you should just be imprisoned for life.
There's freedom and then there's being subversive.
You must be retarded and not getting the point as it has nothing to with prosecution for being here illegally it's prosecution for committing crimes that a citizen would be prosecuted for abroad due to jurisdiction like the men who seek prostitution in countries it is legal.
In many of these marriages there are children born from them as in evidence this man under so called us jurisdiction has provenly fucked a child not just married.
So why are they held to a different standard.
That again is not them compelled by rights automatically given but a decision they are allowed to make and no they don't universally extend said protection many cases people are extradition for violations in their country that would violate a citizens rights.
If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle.
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Only US citizens are protected by the constitution.
It's a spic named Jensy Machado. There was a deportation order for someone living at his address and ICE thought he was the guy until they looked at his driver's license and realized he wasn't the illegal they were looking for. He only had cuffs on for a few minutes while they figured it out. The two other men he was with were arrested for being illegals.
Machado claims he doesn't know the man listed on the deportation order, but there is a 100% chance it was some illegal he was harboring in his house.
This spic might technically be a citizen, but he is definitely aiding and abetting illegals.
There is no chance he really voted for Trump. The Media Industrial Complex is just trying to shit this stupid meme that supposedly Trump voters are regretting voting for him. Nothing could be further from the truth. Literally everyone who voted for Trump is enjoying how well his second term is going so far, and love seeing all of these dirty illegals actually getting rounded up and deported.
Don’t care, immigrants shouldn’t have any rights so they don’t.
And a lot of them need their citizenship revoked.
Thats not how that works you fucking onions redditor. As the other anon said, you are talking about the Declaration of Independence. And no, it doesn't grant "rights" to non citizens.
It would be easier if you gave an example of something you think should be an offence. With actual details.
Many western countries grant citizenship to adults with child spouses often because the child doesn't actually have any alternative. They have no family to go back to because they family often does not want them back (they can't afford them). The adult spouse is a spouse and a legal guardian. Separating them would send the child back to their country with NO supports, essentially forcing a child into the streets.
How can you use the Constitution to defend yourself? Rolled up like a newspaper? Or torn into pieces and shot as spitwads?
Families trying to harbor illegals or hire illegals should just have their citizenship revoked, pretty simple solution.
Remember that leftist chick who bought a pink gun and then immediately used it in road rage?
implying that's okay
And this one?
cnn.com
So again what your saying is if an American goes to the same country marries a child and fucks her pregnant he will be able to petition and bring her in the country since the same logic applies to her fate....
Yet Americans are literally prosecuted for Simply going to those countries and fucking child or even adult prostitutes that are legal in that country to do so.
Another scenario that absolutely has happened is an illegal was here according to you under the us jurisdiction decided to go home fuck prostitutes and come back is still never prosecuted. It's like they get all the benefits and non of the cons since they can't be prosecuted for doing what's legal in their....drum rolllllll.... country.
A senior Department of Homeland Security official told CNN Lopez-Gomez was detained because he said he was in the US illegally,
Don't forget the favorite line of nogunz
it's pointless to own guns because the government has fighter jets and tanks!
The police absolutely win in that case. I have watched hundreds of hours of niggers chimping out going for their gun and being riddled with bullets. I’m not saying your rights don’t matter but you will die trying to be a tough guy.
So again what your saying is if an American goes to the same country marries a child and fucks her pregnant he will be able to petition and bring her in the country since the same logic applies to her fate....
I don't know of any case of this scenario happening, it might be legally accepted though.
Yet Americans are literally prosecuted for Simply going to those countries and fucking child or even adult prostitutes that are legal in that country to do so.
If an extradition treaty is in place.
Another scenario that absolutely has happened is an illegal was here according to you under the us jurisdiction decided to go home fuck prostitutes and come back is still never prosecuted.
Extradition treaties usually do not care about mere prostitution. Regardless of what citizenship a person has.
lefties house illegals
I'll take BS that doesn't happen for 500 Alex
i don't understand why people support illegal invaders, unless they are one themselves
they're parasites in the least to the worst scum imaginable in the most; they harm the native populations in a multitude of ways
Lol, do it. Worst case scenario, it starts The Burger Civil War. Best case scenario, a lot of leftist trannies and women die.
You know, both are good outcomes, lol.
wow, now these faggots care about constitution?
of course, rich people, property owners and corporations want their state-funded tenants and slave labor, so the leftoids are supporting slavery when they do illegals.
The extradition treaty has no bearing when the illegal is here after provably violating US law in another country such as prostitution and child sex..what aren't you getting.
Thousands of documented arrests for sex tourism in countries that allow prostitutes say otherwise.
The US government, like all governments, pick and choose what laws they deem appropriate to enforce internationally and they write up extradition treaties between one another.
They normally revolve around serious crimes, child support, alimony, and taxes.
The law is the law, it's just an opinion with a gun, it's only as fair or logical as the the enforcers that wield the guns. Deal with it.
libs are suddenly pro-2A now kek
worthless fucking lefty women acting so tough on the internet.
It's hilarious because they're always also posting for attention about their 29 self diagnosed medical conditions that they're handicapped with. Yeah sure, Linda, you'll start blasting when they come to deport the Carlos in your closet.
JUST GOT HOME FROM THE DOCTOR, MY LONG COVID IS GETTING WORSE YA'LL. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THEY HAVE A LONG COVID VACCINE TRIAL COMING UP AND MY DOC SAYS SHE WILL MAKE SURE I'M IN IT!
actually lawful residents and visitors can have guns.
Thats the point you fucking illiterate nigger.
Jesus Christ Anon Babble is proof our education system is terrible because somehow none of you inbred fucks read above a middleschool level.
They are GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS. Not to Americans, but to EVERYONE. The government CANNOT impede them.
Not that words on a paper stops the government from doing so, but don't pretend you're in the legal right for it.
Pretty simple argument:
mention constitution
ARGUMENT WON
The guy breathing
Based. God bless Iceland.
Your rights are forfeited when you commit a crime. In this case the crime is illegal immigration. What's the corrective action? Deportation. You don't have a country if you don't have borders, sweaty.
your rights are forfeited when you commit a crime
Wrong, negro.
Say you don't care that they're being deported; sure it's a terrible precedent to be set that the government can flagrantly ignore due process but you find it funny.
But it's not legal no matter how much you pray in ignorance, and it's directly because of the rot that lead us here in that no one in the government is behest to the laws they swore to uphold.
Than arguing about rights is meaningless cuck and if the power that be says they don't have them or deserve due process that's what it is....
They're being duely processed, anyways. Back where they belong. Why does the news keep talking about hearings?
Illegal immigrants have zero constitutional protections
It's great to agree with you that Texas had no right to get independent from Mexico. land stealing Jews
Did they miss their last immigration hearing? That's a bench warrant. Are they in public? Don't need a search warrant, just reasonable suspicion.
Missouri Castle Doctrine says unknown, unverified, and violent people breaking into my house are free game. Bonus points is that zero republican would support the federal government in this case. As they'd immediately look anti-2A losing their voters instantly. They'd sink theirbheada and say "It was just a tragedy."
So yes, feds that refuse to announce who they are or provide identification are free game. I wouldn't be surprised if it opens a new form of reverse swatting. Where someone tellsnICE some random rural home in a deep red area is harboring illegals. With AI spoofing the "evidence".
probably ice since it'll be one vs at least half a dozen
legally though idk hopefully the homeowner im glad trumps is getting rid of illegals but law enforcement should not be allowed to enter into the home unless they have a warrant
Which is why the show up in full uniform and scream "search warrant" before breaking down the door. If this is your house 9.9/10 you did something. Like illegally immigrating. Hey, other criminals get to experience it, too.
who the hell is laken riley
noncitizen have no right to property.
atheit "girl"
Read your rights you fucking retard.
I fucking hate dealing with window lickers like you who make up what if fantasy scenarios to "win" an argument while having an understanding that's less informed than a highschooler whose only edification is a basic bitch civics class.
This shit is in the news cycle and public discourse BECAUSE THEY'RE BREAKING THE LAW.
Excising aliens and exercising rights? We win.
Nobody's been denied due process.
You just don't understand how "due process" works. Try being a troublemaker and you find out.
the rights that every man born on Earth has
Which is.... nothing. Because rights are made up. Imaginary. They only exist if some humans decide it's convenient for them to exist for you at the time. In other words, it does grant them... maybe... if the flawed humans in question feel like granting them to you today
One google search proves you wrong.
If this is too hard perhaps you can ask grok to form an opinion for you?
Ask your handler to loosen the straps to your helmet, they're cutting off circulation.
but that's not the argument here
Maybe if I say it enough it will become true
Hasn't worked yet, but keep trying I guess.
The law of the land is still that the constitution applies to illegal immigrants.
Including the bill of rights.
You can lie till you're blue in the face but it won't change the law.
The thing is, since we imported the third world, all branches of law enforcement resemble a foreign army than a peacekeeping force because shitskins are killing each other and participating in illegal rackets that have a source in a foreign country. And then, many of their people act like there's nothing wrong with Pedro selling drugs and having a stockpile of weapons. In fact he's reconquering for his people. Pedro's so fucking cool. Escaped prison, killed a federale in a shootout. Mexicans are retarded.
Illegals are not citizens, therefore not subject to the protections of the Constitution
It's funny watching leftoids display how little they know with their stupid hypothetical scenarios.
You see, anon, what the leftoids do is make shit up and repeat it to themselves and each other a whole bunch of times to convince themselves the shit they just made up is in fact real.
Wrong. Illegals are protected by the constitution.
media.aclj.org
Should due process extend any further than.
Is he illegal?
red coats are quartered on a private residence without consent
the militia posse physically removes them
loyalist cunt chattel whinges and invokes 2A
what if the homeowner is a citizen sheltering illegals?
Depends on the situation, according to that paper you didn't bother to read...
Is he just going to be deported for crossing the border illegally?
Bill of rights isn't really a defense.
You're getting sent back.
Is he going to be convicted of murder and put to death
Same constitutional rights to a fair trial as citizens
Wrong.
Congratulations on being dumber than a brownoid.
There's going to be a warrant. These fags are just going to be exceptionally faggy. Because, they were caught and released there's a paper trail. If other crimes are being committed it's enough for a warrant, a few informants, is all that takes.
I thought the whole issue was that ICE can now do this without a warrant
Show me the warrantless raid. I'll bet it doesn't exist.
Our rights are God-given according to the Constitution.
The government cannot give or take a single one of them, at least that's how the founders saw it.
Your right to legally immigrate. FFS, we take fucktons of legal immigrants, but in classic shitskin fashion they're just going to be indifferent to everybody else and declare their entitlement.
Wrong. Per the 14th, the protections only apply to those born or naturalized. Illegals are neither
Stop raisining up my country.
Not wrong. The Constitution only protects citizens and illegals are not citizens. Now do what you did last time and tell me to google your proof for you
Who says you have a right to immigrate? We outright refused entire nations from immigrating in the past
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nope. it doesn't exclude any group from protection.
Can you point to the part of the Constitution that says “these protections extend to cover illegals and noncitizens”? Because I’ve never seen a leftist do so
I'm trying to be nice. But, it's true, we let a lot of people in legally. For many reasons, that's also a lot of the illegal immigration is expired visas.
Can you point to the part where it says it doesn't?
It ain't in the 14th amendment.
it ain’t in the 14th
Yes it is, it’s the whole “born or naturalized citizen” line
Where do they have an explicit right to immigrate? If we said “no one is allowed to enter”, what part of the Constitution does that violate?
You are wrong.
No matter how many times you retards repeat this you're wrong.
Every court in the US says you are wrong.
Every legal expert says you are wrong.
The wording is extremely clear, the intentions were extremely clear, you are as delusional as the leftoid pro-choicer who says "it's ok because it's not a person!" ignoring the fact that it will grow into one.
Die mad and uneducated you illiterate cunt.
That line protects the rights of citizens.
It doesn't necessarily deny non-citizens any protections or rights.
It doesn't necessarily deny non-citizens any protections or rights.
The absolute pilpul. Anyone, else see this? The law defines rights and penalties. There isn't some right not defined in law you're scratching for. Fucking Jews.
you are wrong
Yet you cannot, for any reason, explain how I’m wrong. All you can do is say it over and over again like a cheerleader thinking that shouting “we will win” makes a difference.
the wording is extremely clear
Correct, it says that the Constitution only applies to people either born as citizens or naturalized, which explicitly excludes your beloved illegal shitskins
Vague areas of the constitution are usually left up to the courts for clarification.
This is how it's always worked. This process is defined in the constitution.
The courts have upheld constitutional protections for illegal immigrants numerous times.
The right to knowingly jump over someone else's fence.
Why is there a wall here? Let's jump over the wall instead of seeing the man at the gate as is my divine right.
it doesn’t explicitly say that noncitizens aren’t protected
By not extending the protections to the noncitizens, it explicitly excludes them. You leftists are genuinely too stupid to understand how to read
Fuck you.