What's the big deal with giving people caught up in immigration cases due process...

What's the big deal with giving people caught up in immigration cases due process? If they're illegal they'll get deported.

Asking questions like this should get you

deported.
Violently.

Why? I just don't understand. If you can't explain your viewpoint then why should people take it seriously?

? If they're illegal they'll get deported

Not if it’s some lefty judge they won’t. “Yeah I came here illegally but I got kids here and I’m married and stuff” Add on it would take decades to give millions of illegals came in court dates

Yeah but what if citizens get caught up on this process and get deported accidentally? You've got kids, retards, people who can't prove their identity who could potentially get deported despite being legitimate citizens. That's what due process could ameliorate.

What's the big deal with giving people caught up in immigration cases due process?

I don't have a big deal with it. Time for your remedial civics lesson, nigger.

"Due process" means that the government, when it interacts with you, it has to have a standard process for how it does so. And that you get that same standard process that everyone else gets. If your neighbor can just put in a swimming pool, but they make you get a permit for it... your due process rights have been violated.

So for these foreigners and illegal aliens, if the standard process is that they inspect your papers when they have the handcuffs on you, and they check on that birth certificate that you claim to have "hey it's just over there on the desk!"... then you have had your due process rights respected. Most due process doesn't occur in front of a judge or in a courtroom. And there's no reason for this due process to get that either. For all the faggots out there propagandizing "how can they know you're an illegal immigrant if they don't give you due process"... when you're detained say "there must be some mistake and if you check out my papers that are right over there you'll see I'm a US citizen!" and they will, without even the slightest doubt, check on those papers. Anyone suggesting this isn't happening is full of horseshit. What's really happening is the illegal immigrants know they're caught, they don't protest, and they get sent home. And it's great. A few ten million more, and things will be back the way they're supposed to be.

Whats the big deal with American brapping every time they make a post on this braphog board?

terrorists aren't afforded due process, why would invaders?

I think they believe "due process" is synonymous with "lawfare stalling tactics" and activism.

A grave mistake, but they have a basis for it.

OK, PAL, THAT'S IT!!!

Due process is not to confirm if you are here illegally. It’s for them to tell a judge why their illegal ass should stay in the country. This “what if some legal citizen is taken” is pure bitch like fear mongering. Sure mistakes can happen, they happen regardless. It is extremely unlikely a US citizen that isn’t some anchor baby is taken. Not like three people just rounded up and thrown on a plane that day. They got to deportation camps and are processed before deporting

so your solution is to enable child trafficking?

determining someone is in fact guilty of a crime before being punished (deported) for said crime

That would be kinda funny though if some random white dude was sent to some shit hole in central America by mistake

They were given due process. The actual act of deportation is the final step of the process that begins with a perp's identity being pulled and their citizenship, visa, parole etc statuses being checked.

have social security numbers and fingerprints in DMV databases

And why would this stop what I just described? If anything it only makes it easier and they can suiveil them better.

families with enough money to hire lawyers to sue the ever living fuck out of the government

They are suing the government. That's what the entire discussion is about.

Well we wouldn't deport white people...

How do you know? If there is not due process, nothing stops them from doing that.

They just want an excuse to compare it to nazi germany and how the jews were put on lists and rounded up without "due process"

But jews had due process in nazi germany. There were racial courts where they could prove they were not jewish.

It would but he’d be laughing to bank. Because minute he gets to that shithole he’s calling family and media. He’ll have lawyers willing take his case for fee because he a huge settlement

1) there was no due process when they entered the country illegally
2) the due process is and should be "show your proof that you are a citizen or a green card holder". I don't know any citizen that couldn't prove they've been here for their entire life and could either provide paper evidence or affidavits. The process to determine if someone is a weird outlier can be figured out in a 15 minutes.

why did you name yourself Move to Oregon

Portland only just started cleaning itself up

Add on it would take decades to give millions of illegals came in court dates

Centuries actually, it would take something like 200 years to process the amount of illegals here

Yeah I came here illegally

Stop right there. This isn't a problem if you're not a faggot. We don't need to make exceptions and families can be deported together, the wife would've apparently known. Also this same bullshit can be used about serial killers, rapists, etc, turns out we don't really care about keeping families together in most contexts.

Or just give them some legal paperwork so they can work. No need to give them citizenship.

those German girls got deported to Tokyo

They get due process.
The process is to present proof of citizenship or be deported.
No judge needed.
No court.
No jury
No appeals.
No years of waiting in an overburdened system.
Just you and the case officer.
Show papers, or you're gone.
Due process given.

Citizens have documents that prove citizenship

Nigger, look at thug El Salvador! Look at judge who tried to help that spic evade ICE! He was in her court that day on a battery charge for beating his girlfriend up so bad she had to go to the hospital

Immigrants can argue their immigration case in immigration court. It's why there is a whole immigration law there. You dumb miggers lmao.

That is not the due process the left wants. This is a delaying tactic. They want to keep the illegals in the system as long as possible. In the hopes a blue wave does happen, and everything is reversed.

Immigration court is already flooded. It would take decades is not as another anon pointed out centuries to give all these illegals court dates you fucking retard. Add on billions it would cost

If children are being found without their parents they get put in foster care.
If they have parents and those parents are illegal, then the parents can choose to bring the kids with them when they get deported.

Stop acting like deportation is some kind of punishment, it's a taxpayer funded plane ride home.
These people do not belong in this country, simple as.

This is why they want the slics. To gerrymander congressional seating in blue states where people moving out in mass numbers

if they didn't come in with due process then don't need process to leave.
simple.

Sounds fake.
Unaccompanied children cannot be deported.
They either go with their families, or get put into the foster system if their parents abandoned them (fucking savages do this a lot)

Immigration court is already flooded

Yes and? It's a whole different problem, caused by Republicans and Democrats. What's your suggestion, get rid of the immigration law totally? Ok maybe it could be done but then how would you know who's legal and who's not?

We have birth certificates and social security cards.
And now, to fly on an airplane you need a Real ID which is an ID you had to present proof of citizenship to get.
Literally every lawful resident of this country can provide proof of citizenship if requested

Devils advocate. The illegals are getting false birth certificates and Social Security cards.

It's an appeal to conservative principles, to try to get conservatives on board with the poor immigrants being tossed out with 2-3 court cases and additional judicial review. You see, that is just not enough "due process", they need to be held here in America indefinitely, so they can't get sent back until all of them have had at least 12 court reviews, additional appeals, and whatever god knows else so Jew lawyers can hold up sending these illegal criminals back whence they came.

It's disingenuous assholery typical of Democrats. Cry "muh constitution" when it suits (often for a thing that is blatantly illegal), and wipe their ass with it the rest of the time. Here's an easy example: full faith clause for gay marriage, but FUCK YOU if you have a CCL. Constitution goes in the trash after getting ass wiped in Maryland, NY, CA, and HI, all voted on by Democrats.

The same overarching problem with court cases in general. We allow essentially bottomless appeals even if there is no new evidence/information to consider. I would have zero problem with due process for immigration cases if they weren’t allowed to use appeals to delay their inevitable deportations for years. In my opinion for ALL court cases, there should be a max of one appeal unless something new can be brought to the table to consider.

Funny thing, Mexicans are still deported immediately without due process. Something, something, about the our land the gringos are holding. Everyone else gets due process. But no, only we should get due process with regards to immigration, no one else. They have neighboring countries they can go to. Why all the way over here?

You have it backwards. If you are here illegally you are suppose to be deported. The burden of proof is on you. There are tons of ways to be here legally while you work on citizenship. This whole idea that you can just come here without any type of visa and the burden of the proof is on the American court to prove that your illegal is total horse shit and has never existed in this country ever.

Yes it's obvious this is the play.
My point is to give no quarter and if anything speed the process.
Tun these leftists the fuck over.
They want every single illegal to have a court date in front of a judge because they know that will make mass deportation impossible.
Just ignore them.
Due process is showing your fucking papers.
I don't give a fuck what the left means, they don't get to define to what words mean.
Stop letting them control the fucking language how many times do I have to yell at people about this.

You're just clogging up the court systems with millions of cases so the deportations stop. Fuck off. Anyone arguing for this should be deported too.

Okay? They don't need court, they can be deported. You're the only one suggesting they should get more than they deserve. Either they have papers or they don't. If they don't, deported, I don't give a fuck about any external factors.

Idiot, he knows that.
He's hoping you're stupid enough to not realize that.
Never forget that the shills you argue with here are evil people who hate you and lie to you because they want to hurt you.

And they can await their case in their country of origin.

Why are you here newfag? Go back to whatever faggotry you walked out of dribbling nigger cum.

Yes they are supposed to be deported unless they can give a court a reason to not deport them during deportation processing. Legals are becoming illegal and vise versa illegals get relief from the deportation through the courts. There are deportable offences where they can get deported without a court hearing.

Barrier to entry.
Those things are impossible to fake.
You can fake the document, but you can't fake the database record.
Instead they have to steal them, but that's much harder and runs the risk of being caught and being sent to prison instead of just sent home.
Most of the filthy illegals are young men who come to America to make some quick money so they can Jumpstart their life back home.
Only people already involved in crime would bother stealing residency papers.

They can. But USCIS won't give them a visa to come to the US for their court date.

This.
Whenever these fuckers start pointing to the constitution for some bullshit they want remember these are the same faggots who said the constitution is a white supremacist holdover from colonialism that needed to be abolished.
They treat the constitution the same as the Bible.
They don't think they should have to follow either, but they know you do so they will cite whatever they think will make you give them what they want.
They are pure fucking evil.
You don't reason with evil, you destroy it.

Aww, so sad. :.(

I don't see a problem with them being here since most of them work until their cases are decided. They are not entitled to any federal benefits and can get deported through expedited (fast) removal even for a shitty misdemeanor so most of them are not breaking any criminal laws if they want to remain here lawfully.

Real question is “What do Americans get from giving illegals due process” Answer is absolutely nothing. We for actual americans sitting in foreign prisons without due process or flat out bullshit trail. Yet we got a senator flying to El Salvador to have margaritas with some illegal human trafficker. These illegals get more rights than most Americans citizens

Sociopath behavior and narcissism are common defects in leftists.

they did get their due process
the process was finding out they're illegal and giving them the opportunity to provide documentation that they arent

where did all this "you aren't giving them due process" faggotry even come from
do people think "due process" means a televised criminal court case?
they aren't being charged with a crime, there's nothing they need to go through a completely unrelated process for
nobody is trying to xonvict or sentence them for anything

they went through the process that suspected illegal immigrants are put through, and shocker they were found to be illegal so they're being deported

Had no problem with niggers ripping down statues of founding fathers and removing them because they are offensive

Well they technically can come back with a visa but it would take time. Or they learn to code and get a job offer at Nvidia lol. Me personally, I wouldn't want to live in the country that knew kicked me out before.

The do get due process
They deport them
If it was up to me ( and it soon will be ) I would just kill them on the spot

The cops only check SS numbers and ID and the families can only hire lawyers if there is due process retard
No due process means the cops don't check any ID or proof of residence and that you have no right to an attourney or a hearing in court because you haven't been formally arrested or had charges pressed against you
I don't know why this is so hard for you retards to understand. With this precedent you WILL be rounded up and sent to an El Salvadorian rape GULAG for life for saying anything negative about Israel or Jews on this website

It’s time to just start killing these scum

King kike said due process is bad so the sheep go along with it.

Shut up foreigner you have no idea how shit works in US. When you are arrested you are processed you fucking retards. Cops don’t just throw yin in jail without confirming who the fuck you are, fingers prints and mugshot. Illegals are processed. Why they go detainment camps to be processed before sent out! if a US citizen is deported he would have a massive lawsuit not to mention media shitstorm over it. They not sending people out unless know who the fuck they are

It's the new "state lines," another mindless mantra for the left. They did not follow due process when they entered the country illegally, and received all the process they were due when an immigration official determined they're illegal and gave deportation orders. They are not entitled to indefinite bench trials while malignant democrat shitstains try to get back into power.

Because they love and support brown racial replacement so they're tactically obsessing over due process to make that status quo remain unchanged. They don't have to worry though, since Trump is actually deporting anyone besides critics of Jews.

There's literally 10s of millions of them. KYS

due process should be reciting three English nursery rhymes or childrens' songs. if you can't do that, you weren't born here or can't fucking speak English and need to get out.

Because the people bitching about it don't understand what they're talking about. The 14th Amendment guarantees everyone the right to due process before being deprived of life, liberty, or property. Some of the dipshits cite the 1st Amendment in conjunction with the 14th, but it simply doesn't follow. They're not being deprived of the ability to say or believe anything. They're having their paperwork revoked for a security violation. For an illegal alien, the only due process they're owed is a quick check for records. If they don't have a birth certificate, social security number, passport, etc. their ass is out of here.

What's the big deal with giving people caught up in immigration cases due process? If they're illegal they'll get deported.

I hope picrel happens to you, subhuman trash.

What's the big deal with giving foreign partisans due process? Time was they'd simply be hung and we wouldn't be needing to have this conversation in the first place.

Where were lefties and these judges with Clinton, Bush and Obongo deported millions! No way in fuck they all got due process and court dates. Impossible

buy 100 TVs

no one cares

steal 100 TVs

everyone cares

It's weird but people that actually care about rule of law instead of using it as a soundbite like it when the state plays by the rules.

t. I couldn't possibly conceive not having had breakfast the other day

Your notion of Due Process is the DMV writ large; you and your progeny were never factored into ever receiving political suffrage in this country, nor should they gain it in the future.

They were given due process when they entered the United States,
If they entered at an official border checkpoint they were required to give, name, paperwork, information.
If they entered and were caught, they were required to give name, paperwoek and information, then given a court date in which they were required to show up and present their case.
If they entered illegally and have never been interviewed, due process is not expected because they never entered the country under "good intentions" or presented an expectation to become a legally contributing citizen subject to the same laws as everyone else.
If they entered legally and violated any of the conditions under which they agreed to when they entered they knowingly violated due process and the expectations that came with it, ergo, the government is not required to extend the courtesy of our bill of rights to them, as is expected towards "citizens".
If they entered illegally and were caught and missed their court date intentionally or otherwise, they violated the due process extended to them as a courtesy of our bill of rights, which is expected towards "citizens" and only extended to "refugees" as a courtesy. An opportunity if you will.

You however, started this thread to farm bullshit and should be flogged for not educating yourself on the topic as is expected..of citizens.
There aren't any requirements given to immigrants, refugees, illegal or otherwise, it is extended as a courtesy and isn't implicitly stated in our constitution that they be extended to anyone who isn't a citizen. Courtesies may be given and taken away. Courtesies will continue to be taken until morale improves. Pray we do not alter the deal further.

Like when Obongo had kids and families in literal cages? Those rules?

What do you think holding cells are? You can put people in cages while you investigate.
You can't send them to a different country without ever investigating.

It's already fucking happened you dumb fucking fascist

What legal US citizens been deported! Oh, anchor babies who mom signed a legal waiver saying she wanted the kids to go with her

That’s called processing that’s not due process you kangaroo fucker. No way in fuck millions of illegals Obongo deported for court dates. Not even remotely possible.

That’s called processing

It's also literally putting people in cages which you claim to be against when bongo does it.

court dates

Of course not, nearly all are plea bargains. When the state has evidenced you are illegal there is no point in trying to lie in court and perjure yourself as that's only going to make things worse.
If they have no evidence because they made no effort at all then of course anyone would take it to court.

An innocent maryland father was illegally deported against the law with no due process

They're not entitled to a jury trial. Their due process is a judge sees they're an illegal alien and they get deported. That's it. You faggots are trying to gum up the works and keep all those freeloading rapists stuck in legal limbo until a demoshit "president" can wave his wand and ignore our laws once again like bribem did.

what if

Find a case where this has happened. A single one. A real one too not the fake ones the lugenpresse has been shilling.

Shut the fuck up you retarded faggot and kill yourself. Wasted digits.

If they're illegal they'll get deported.

Than why is there an estimated 30 million illegals in the US now and the number just grows every year? If it were as cut and dry as you are saying than why isn't it working?

Thats due process, retard

How long does it take for this bureaucratic nonsense to process a single migrant?

Oh like a year lmao

And the cost?

Hundred thousand bucks probably

And how many have we got left to process?

Tens of millions? Oh and more that we keep bringing in

Make it make sense, if you process each retarded spic, we'll be processing them at the heat death of the universe.

That’s not due process you idiot. That’s just processing. Due process is them being allowed to go court and tell a judge why their illegal ass shouldn’t be deported

What if you're given due process and the outcome of that due process is "you must leave" but then you don't leave and get arrested for not leaving so now are you due another round of due process in which you're ordered to leave but you don't leave so you're arrested again and entitled to due process to determine if you violated the orders of the earlier due process about if you ignored the first due process?
That's what's the discussion is really about. Can you hack infinite stacks of "due process" in order to never have to comply with orders to leave the country. Leftists say this infinite stack of due process for illegals is what the Constitution wanted. Everyone else thinks it's stupid but the media and some judges are willing to go along with the infinite due process stack.

The root of the issue is the desire to get rid of white people, that’s all there is to it

False

Under normal circumstances that would be the case. But not when Dems and radical judges are willing to injunction any deportation. All these gang spices gotten lawyers who are ones judge shopped to get these deportation injunctions.

This, also to add to that these people are illegal they have no rights so they are aren't afforded any due process and anyone suggesting foreign nationals should get all the same rights as actual citizens sounds like treason and sedition talk no matter how anyone tries to spin it.

But not when Dems and radical judges are willing to injunction any deportation

And Repubs and Trump are willing to go along with said injuctions rather than taking a Jacksonian stance as any rational populist movement would.

This is due process you clown

All the GOP needs to do is prove they are guilty but they don't want to do that creating this whole problem.
Maybe Trump wants to look tough on illegals without actually deporting any and is using no due process to make it look like he really wants to but others are stopping him. This would make sense because if he wants US manufacturing illegals will keep wages down and exports competitive.

"what if", "but", "could happen"

So know to protect your country and its borders you have to account for all what if scenarios before you can take any action?

There are two big cases hitting SCOTUS in next few weeks. Birthright citizenship which Trump has more than a strong case and district judges having the authority for national injunctions. If SCOTUS doesn’t side with Trump on these two, I expect he will just start ignoring courts at that point.

Takes too long and they don't deserve to remain here for any longer.

Trump was elected to get rid of them. You can't just invade a fucking country and then be all like "muh due process!" There is no way to deport enough people if that's the case. That's ridiculous.

They already have proved they are guilty. Dems demanding muh due process besides again it would take centuries to process the amount illegals in this country. When Biden was doing catch and release bullshit with his open border these spics were getting court dates 20-30 years from now

They already have proved they are guilty

Court records are public, show me.

I absolutely hate this question as it is rooted in hypocrisy.
If an American sneaks into Mexico illegally, what happens to them? They will get deported from Mexico without due process. Do people care about it? No, they will say that the illegal American deserves it. However, an unknown foreigner snuck into America illegally, and when that person get deported without a due process, everyone lose their damn mind.
Fucking hypocrisy.
Not only that, we also have over 20 million illegals. How can we deport them all with due process when we don't have enough judges and lawyers to process them all within a year? Ignoring the corrupt judges and lawyers, of course.
Inconsistency and hypocrisy made me hate the entire world. They don't have a say here as they don't live here. Get the fuck of here and stay in your shithole! Also, try to improve your country.

lefty judge

Stupid people like calling the judges when the judges are following the law and constitution while felon trump likes breaking both of them since both the fifth and fourteenth amendments gives both citizens and non citizens is the fundamental right to due process to anyone on American land.

state.gov/more-foreign-gang-terrorists-deported-out-of-america/

Thread

These aren't court records, it's a press release.

Mun due process. Pick related is the illegal that karen judge tried to help escape

Deporting without due process and a judge hiding an illegal from ICE are two separate and unrelated events.

The left is going through the 6 stages of grief after being shocked that everyone doesn't think like them. The anger phase is over and now we are in the bargaining phase. This phase is characterized by endless cope that their precious brownoids aren't going to be kicked out of the country

20 million illegals flood in to your country

muh "due process"!

THEY EACH NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD!!!1!

if each "due process" takes 1 minute, that's 20 million minutes of due process

that's 38 fucking years of billable court time

at $10/hour (lol) that'd be $3,328,800

per public servant

to deal with people that shouldn't have been here in the first place

WhY iS tHiS a PrObLeM?

kill yourself.

"due process" means you have set a court date and release them
They just buy a new identity and are never seen again

Yeah but what if citizens get caught up on this process and get deported accidentally?

i don't care any more.
in fact, we should EXPECT that this happens a few times.
treat it like building a highway for the public good.
what was it the libshits always said...?
ah, yes: "you can't let perfect be the enemy of good."
lol

Yeah but what if citizens get caught up on this process and get deported accidentally?

What if innocent people accidentally get arrested for commiting crimes? Damn, good point, we better get rid of laws.

people who can't prove their identity who could potentially get deported despite being legitimate citizens.

Humans are color coded, retard.

we waive goodbye
from the american side of the border
and they learn spanish (let's be honest, they already speak it).