As a christian, how are we supposed to view the laws of the authority figures above us...

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As a christian, how are we supposed to view the laws of the authority figures above us...

As a christian, how are we supposed to view the laws of the authority figures above us? We're supposed to show a healthy respect for them, obviously, but after covid, how can anyone put their faith in human institutions? If they passed a law forbidding criticism of the science (aka the paid off jewish shills who pushed leaky vaccines) are christians obligated to follow this?

I know alot of people are gonna say yes because "lol christcucks are just jewish golems" but I want to hear some diverse answers.

Drn

how are we supposed to view the laws of the authority figures above us?

You accept the government you have as a cross to bear.
All governments are of the devil, they are wicked.
So, you bear it. Except you can't have jews as rulers, that's been forbidden. So saith the Vicar of Christ. No jews.

Gonna assume your insult about jewish golems targets the Protestants, who were created by the Jews after the Christian Church expelled them at the Council of Basel.

You accept the government you have as a cross to bear.

Not sure what you mean by this. Like we tolerate them, but surely that doesn't mean we have to take everything they say as an absolute. 5 years after covid, I'm still unvaxxed. So does God condemn me for this?

Read Acts, you see a lot of civil disobedience there. Daniel as well. Daniel openly and proudly defied a bad law against prayer

Just that... "Christians shall not allow Jwes to hold Civil honors over Christians, or to exercise public offices in the state".
No jewish office holders. It's forbidden by the Christian faith as it is a matter of morals.

You should never follow or subscribe to evil. Christ wants you to prepare for war.

2 Esdras 16:40-50
40 "Hear my words, O my people; prepare for battle, and in the midst of the calamities be like strangers on the earth.
41 Let him that sells be like one who will flee; let him that buys be like one who will lose;
42 let him that does business be like one who will not make a profit; and let him that builds a house be like one who will not live in it;
43 let him that sows be like one who will not reap; so also him that prunes the vines, like one who will not gather the grapes;
44 them that marry, like those who will have no children; and them that do not marry, like those who are widowed.
45 Because those who labor, labor in vain;
46 for strangers shall gather their fruits, and plunder their goods, and overthrow their houses, and take their children captive; for in captivity and famine they will beget their children.
47 Those who conduct business, do it only to be plundered; the more they adorn their cities, their houses and possessions, and their persons,
48 the more angry I will be with them for their sins," says the Lord.
49 Just as a respectable and virtuous woman abhors a harlot,
50 so righteousness shall abhor iniquity, when she decks herself out, and shall accuse her to her face, when he comes who will defend him who searches out

Christ commands us to take a double portion of rvenge against the Whore of Babylon and the Beast government.
Revelation 18:5-7

5For her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. 6Give back to her as she has done to others; pay her back double for what she has done; mix her a double portion in her own cup. 7As much as she has glorified herself and lived in luxury, give her the same measure of torment and grief. In her heart she says, ‘I sit as queen; I am not a widow and will never see grief.’

Christ wants you to do good and justice for your Israelite and Adamic people. Revenge IS Justice.

Catholics are literally kike golem. Only Christians are freedom in Christ

revenge*

No jewish office holders. It's forbidden by the Christian faith as it is a matter of morals.

That's a bit of a sticky situation there, considering that the entire country is owned by Israel.

2 Esdras

Lol fuck off apocrypha fag

you reject the Word of God in Matthew 18:19, for that of your god Luther.
You're not even Christian, you just lie about it. You're a Lutheran.

Heretic. The Apocrypha is full of good Israelite books like Tobit and the Maccabees.

The Bible is talking to Hebrews telling them to obey their kings and authority figures because they were placed there by God in holy Israel.
It doesn't really apply to other nations.
Indeed in the Hebrew times, their kings were appointed by God and that's exactly what it's saying.

how are we supposed to view the laws of the authority figures above us?

The only morality a christian has is obedience to authority. Pay your taxes, pray for your leaders, if God (or at least his favorite friends who tell you what he says because he's not talking to you himself) tells you to break his own laws and murder your own children (he may or may not stop you from doing so, he's done both before), do it with all your heart or he'll punish you. Also give away everything you have and rely on charity of others to survive as you give everything of yours to everyone else (Bible explicitly says goyim christians owe their material blessings to jews).

2 Esdras 6:9

Now Esau is the end of this age, and Jacob is the beginning of the age that follows.

The Christian Scripture states clearly that one must obey God rather than man when the two contradict.

That is why the original seal proposed for the United States was of Moses leading the Israelites out of slavery with the motto:

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Satan controls most of the kingdoms of Earth (not a good thing, but that’s the corrupted material world for now)
It was said he’s “the prince of this world” and that he somehow has control over the leaders of kingdoms on earth until Revelation happens

Nothing enrages the corrupt powers of this world like invoking the authority of God above them.

Many have been martyred for this, but the truth remains that God is the greatest and His authority is above all governments.

Yes that's correct as when Satan tempted Christ in the desert 3 times, it was mostly offering the rule of all the kingdoms of the world, as though Satan had them to give.
As though Satan already had it and was wanting to give it to Christ.
And there's legends that if you are in a high place, a king yourself, the devil will come and want to have a conversation with you about money, power, your legacy.
In the video game Crusader Kings 3 if you go along far enough, it's not unusual at some point to start being visited at night by a shadow on the wall, promising glory and riches. I've always refused it, but then my king has a debuff where he's terrified or something for several months, and the shadow can show up more than once to talk to you.

99% chance you are an atheist false flag, but I'll answer for the real christians reading: You are supposed to obey God over man. And If man asks you to do something that is against God, then you must not do it.

As for the vaxx. I didn't take it because my body is a temple of the Holy Spirit and I should take care of it.

In usual day to day life, we should respect authority.

Now what if the government is satanic? That's debatable and a violent revolution should be prayed on and mulled over and debated on.

The first Christians were a group of Jewish followers of Jesus of Nazareth in the 1st century CE, primarily in Judea. They included his disciples, like Peter, James, and John, and others who believed Jesus was the Messiah and Son of God after his crucifixion and reported resurrection around 30-33 CE. This group, initially called "followers of the Way," gathered in Jerusalem, with figures like Mary, Jesus’ mother, and early converts like the 3,000 baptized on Pentecost (Acts 2). They were rooted in Jewish practices, attending temple services and observing Mosaic Law, but distinguished by their worship of Jesus and communal living. Over time, leaders like Paul spread the faith to Gentiles, expanding beyond Judaism. Precise names of individuals beyond the apostles are sparse, as early records focus on groups rather than specific people.

What happens if they don't technically contradict? Like that proposed law they're pushing through Washington, regarding the outlawing of israeli protests? This means you HAVE To support the jewish version of a product at all times. So if you want a bottle of aspirin, you're no longer allowed to buy the cheap 5 dollar bottle, but now you have to buy the expensive 50 dollar bottle producted and imported from Israel. Refusing them money is a private protest, according to the drafted law.

Or what about the vaccines? In at least 5 major countries, you can be jailed for criticizing them. "Promoting vaccine hesitancy" they call it. In france a doctor is legally not allowed to prescribe alternatives to covid vaccines, which means no Ivermectin. Is it a sin to break this law, if you as a doctor genuinely believe that ivermectin would be a better cure for your patient than a leaky, shoddy vaccine?

I guess my problem is the laws that technically don't break the bible, but are still immoral because of the circumstances involving their creation or their enforcement. Like you're obeying the spirit of the law, but you don't see the moral wrongdoing in "alternatives" around it.

It explains a lot of the things we see happening on a global level too.
The word “cabal” is also based on jewish “Kabbalah” (much like the pharisaic Sanhedrin) and the Bible explicitly condemns the synagogue of Satan.

that isnt what the bible says at all

im guessing jesus is a way to prompt you from having to repeat this simulation over and over and try and find your way out of the loop.
maybe he was the high score player on sim earth and now the game is like a rusty arcade game in the corner of the arcade, not many players, but we are all are stuck in a loop.
our souls are eternal and infinite and want to rejoin the cosmic fabric and manifest as free entities again, and not repeat this purgatory simulation/.

You are not supposed to follow laws of men that are in direct contradiction and violation to God's law, even if that means death, that's what Christians went through in ancient Rome and later Papal Rome, they were murdered in the tens of millions.

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

The true law is God's law, the Bible is above all human inventions, and God is going to judge our nations according to His law when He comes back for judgement day. That's when you realize the dire situation that the Christian (western) world is in. We are in Babylonian captivity, everything in our current world is Babylonianish.

If you love God, you will keep His commandments.

What about laws that aren't in direct contradiction with God's laws, but still have no moral basis to them? Like Holocaust denial laws in the UK? You can be thrown in jail if you don't believe in the holocoasters, the electric swimming pools, the mechanical knife stabbey rooms, the bear and eagle circuses, the jewish kids uses as a frisbee for target practice, the jewish masturbator machines, or the 5 year old jewish kids who escaped the camps because they took karate and fought their way past 20 SS officers and lived with wolves outside the camps for 20 years.

You're never supposed to sin, you're not supposed to follow a government into sin. Lying is a sin. If the government tells you to call a faggot in a dress a woman you don't have to follow it.
Now there is a difference between having those situations forced on you and actively seeking out a confrontation. But you're always obligated to speak truth, not lies.

As a christian, how are we supposed to view the laws of the authority figures above us?

Everything in government and the world is fake and gay and cringe so it doesn't really matter. If you are facing a retarded law just ignore it, don't bother talking shit about the government because that does nothing to the situation, remember that people are retards and they WANT a king to stomp on them, we really don't deserve a good government.

but I want to do le change

Then have fun going into politics or starting a revolution but don't cry when you win and still goes to shit in less than a generation
Good posts.

5 years after covid, I'm still unvaxxed. So does God condemn me for this?

God's laws are above the government, why do you think the apostles died like martyrs
Reminder to keep trying to ditch Anon Babble

current Christianity, particularly boomers and other post 1950, hippie Jesus types, buy the unconditional and endless capitulation to authority. as soon as you say 'taxation is theft' they knee jerk react with 'oh but render unto caesar' and any talk of resistance is 'submit to governing authorities' because God is in control.
i have to remark again how adamant they are about these mandates. they take personal offense at defying the government even in abstract. it doesn't matter how you frame your argument. you can point to the absurdity of something like honoring your father and mother being null and void or at least subject to circumstance if say, your parents were subjecting you to satanic ritual abuse or something. but if your politicians are doing exactly such a thing and their lifestyles materially impact their governance, they don't really give a shit. and they don't even process commands like treating their bodies like temples. they're hedonists. and forget anything about taking financial responsibility for their families. they want their last check to bounce etc.
point being, it's obviously Jews to blame, but I do think their brand of Christianity is going to die out and it will be in the next generation or so that we see a return to how extremely and implicitly political Christianity is.
also, this gets complicated as Americans because our own internal mythology and headcanon is based on defiance or antipathy toward shitty government. as you mentioned, covid demonstrated quite a lot, and that defiant spirit can be reasonably doubted. i've heard a lot of preachers talk about paying your taxes because reasons, and many references to the Founders being Christian, even if it's just ethical framework. i haven't heard any about the 'sins of the founding fathers' and their regimented opposition toward the Brit govt. then again, their tax exempt status probably depends on toeing the line

See, you guys make sense. I believe in respecting authority, even paying taxes if I'm obviously using government funded facilities. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna go along with their lies. Half the propaganda about the holocaust is fake and gay, a man can't transition into a woman no matter how much HRT he takes, a law shouldn't exist solely to enrich the elites and billionaires.

That's why I firmly believe that a law can be broken, if you have a moral reason to do so. I'll gladly go to jail because I honestly don't believe the stories about jews being made into soap and lamp shades. A select few in the government shouldn't have the right to dictate history, they shouldn't be allowed to push chemicals on us, they shouldn't even be allowed to dictate morality.

These hypocritical schmucks demand obedience to their laws, when they don't even follow them. Obama could invite 1000 people to his barbeque during covid lockdowns, but a man couldn't even go to the beach by himself, even if he was vaccinated and had 50 masks on. Kyle Rittenhouse is the devil for crossing state lines, but illegals are allowed into the country by the millions because borders are fascist nazi inventions. A black man can stab a white kid and get off with probation, but calling that same black guy the N word gets you a 10 year jail sentence.

What "respect" does the government deserve with this?

Sneakily work around it. Find opportunities to tell the truth that are low risk. Avoid people, places, and things that seek to make (you) compromise your morals.
Trannies and open homosexuals will still be ringing up your things, though. It's clear that the lawl has turned its' back on God. And the legacy of Christianity even back to prophets in the wilderness has been to rebuke and reprove evil. Even as prophets were powerless to escape a stoning.
Christians today are afraid to take a beating.

I'm not a Christian, but it seems foolish to me to follow something that's harmful to you. Or inconvenient.
Plus your holy books seem to be tainted to hell and back by centuries of editing and political pressure.
Muslims and jews aren't exempt from this either.

I get the reasoning why they want us to show a level of respect, but I can't really sink to the level of "submission" because every time I disobeyed the government, I was eventually vindicated by information that proved me right. Imagine being called a sinner by your christian friends because you disobeyed the government in the past.

you don't think lead in paint is good for you? Stop being disrespectful

you refuse to build your house with asbestos? All those cancer studies are not government approved, be silent and show submission

you don't want the covid jab? why are you being so selfish?

How many times do people have to be treated like a battered housewife before they start questioning things?

you don't want the covid jab? why are you being so selfish?

Sloppy job, Mossad.

romans 13:1-7

Obey the rulers who have authority over you. Only God can give authority to anyone, and he puts these rulers in their places of power. People who oppose the authorities are opposing what God has done, and they will be punished. Rulers are a threat to evil people, not to good people. There is no need to be afraid of the authorities. Just do right, and they will praise you for it. After all, they are God's servants, and it is their duty to help you.

If you do something wrong, you ought to be afraid, because these rulers have the right to punish you. They are God's servants who punish criminals to show how angry God is. But you should obey the rulers because you know it is the right thing to do, and not just because of God's anger.

You must also pay your taxes. The authorities are God's servants, and it is their duty to take care of these matters. Pay all that you owe, whether it is taxes and fees or respect and honor.

2Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.

3The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel doth not know, my people doth not consider.

4Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

5Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.

6From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.

7Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.

What happens if they don't technically contradict? Like that proposed law they're pushing through Washington, regarding the outlawing of israeli protests? This means you HAVE To support the jewish version of a product at all times.

You don't have to support everything the government does. Ultimately, christians know that the world is fucked and everything is dust. Christianity does have a place in politics but it's not about politics, it's about bigger things.

Then God had the people who condemned Daniel eaten by lions.

You've seen how character assassination works, right?
1 Peter 4:15-16 (KJV) But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

You should respect your Jewish leaders as you worship your Jewish god.

obey the law of the land except when it goes against God, and how you go about that is up to your own discretion. I hold no man in any regard above me, humans are all sacks of mud and jews are of the synagogue of satan, they are basically demons.

You should understand that they will gin up a hate mob against you, and any indiscretion is ammunition. Nevermind, that they will lie about (you) anyways. But, anything, absolutely anything they can sink into, they will. So, it's better not to have indiscretions.

Rulers are a threat to evil people, not to good people.

Tell that to China and its good samaritan law, which punished good people for helping bystanders in trouble.

I believe in obedience, but there's gotta be a moral reasoning behind it. Otherwise you're basically paying tribute to Satan by giving him whatever he wants.

the government says jump off this cliff

they also paid the science(tm) to say that it won't kill you

thus it's not suicide, so you have to obey

See how silly that is?

The moment a Christian confesses with his mouth and believes in his heart that he believes in Gid, whom rose Jesus Christ from the dead they shall be hit with an onslaught of judgement from ungodly people.

It also says the entire world will be in satans hand for awhile. So if you think about it, the bible is correct.

Gid

God. I can't not correct it.

the government says jump off this cliff

killing yourself would go against God, so you shouldn't do that. use your own brain and decide for yourself.
but I don't even believe that Christians should serve in the military because you'd just be doing the deeds of evil corrupt men. but it's up to the individual to make that decision or not. and whether it's actually right or not is between that individual person and God.

That's why I mentioned the part about the science. All it takes to sway people is some lightly seasoned propaganda, and the masses will line up and gobble it up.

Yep. But, many Christians don't just slurp it all up, no matter what word games you use. It must be infuriating.

I'm happy to see when someone rejects falsehood. The slimy (((snakes))) running the government always keep coming up with fancy new loopholes to make people follow pointless and downright demonic laws. Look at how they changed the definition of racism so now you can hate white people because something something institutional privilege.

"Authorities deserve respect" they say. lol

To the Roman centurion he said: “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s and unto God the things which are God’s. The sincere service of God and the loyal service of Caesar do not conflict unless Caesar should presume to arrogate to himself that homage which alone can be claimed by Deity. Loyalty to God, if you should come to know him, would render you all the more loyal and faithful in your devotion to a worthy emperor.

This cleansing of the temple discloses the Master’s attitude toward commercializing the practices of religion as well as his detestation of all forms of unfairness and profiteering at the expense of the poor and the unlearned. This episode also demonstrates that Jesus did not look with approval upon the refusal to employ force to protect the majority of any given human group against the unfair and enslaving practices of unjust minorities who may be able to entrench themselves behind political, financial, or ecclesiastical power. Shrewd, wicked, and designing men are not to be permitted to organize themselves for the exploitation and oppression of those who, because of their idealism, are not disposed to resort to force for self-protection or for the furtherance of their laudable life projects.

All Jesus did was have a tantrum in the Court of the Gentiles and then he let them kill him for it. Not a great example for efficacy in resistance.

Oy vey!

Is that why his name is known and venerated two thousand years later, as apposed to your idols who were cut down by Christ without him even lifting a sword. Thats power, thats true power.

A worthy emperor? Like the one who allowed jews to turn God's house into the roman equivalent of Walmart? By making it a den of thieves who profit off of people?

Tell me, where are the modern emperors worthy of devotion? The chinese chucklenuts who can't even produce an escalator without it killing someone? The African Arseholes who killed their white farmers and then caused mass starvation? Sleepy Joe and Zion don, who can't even secure the damn borders and let 50 million illegals come in every year? Maybe the canadian cucks have a good emperor, despite them allowing illegals in by the truckload, and arresting legitimate citizens for complaining about it. Maybe the UK is worthy of devotion? Just ignore them arresting people for having a spoon in their house without a license, while letting muslims roam the streets with machetes.

It's hard for me to be a christian because i'm told to ignore all of this and praise them like they're doing a good job. Like every time a white kid is stabbed to death, and the government pardons the murderer, I'm supposed to smile and say "thank you for saving us from white privilege!"

The world truly lies in the power of the wicked one.