THR POPE IS FUCKING BROWN AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THE POPE IS BROWN
that isnt him you stupid protestant fuck
Just like catholics themselves
Islam is really seeming the right way for the white man
He is American!
AND A JESUIT HAHAHAHAHHA
Please stop larping you fucking retard spic
Yes it is you retarded faggot
Topjej
Stfu
Yep - as American as Jose when he mows my lawn.
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Did you smoke nigger sperm again, retard?
Mexican bros we won.
Look at me.
I am the White man now.
That's called a tan. I know you snowniggers don't understand what that is
Latinx
looks great for a 70 yo
kek
fucking hell say good bye to your foreskins, southrons.
Lmaooo why do asshole not want the black cardinal that machete rwanda??? Just like the siri things
you will never be white bastard soup mutt
Seethe, pagan.
He’s brown. This is what actual Mediterraneans look like
Looks Italian.
Only confirms OP
Based.
Well of course, he is American.
Wait THAT isnt white enough for you? What is even white at this point?
Black pope is anto nigger he kills freemasons and fags is monarchist and non modernist rwanda 1994 as 100 years the monarchies removed mostly neutered you are fucked based in veto system by removing the real hapsburgs
Well of course, he represents the american people.
This isn’t the face of a White person
He looks like a nigger
So was the last one, what's your point?
Robert Prevost of the United States is named Pope Leo XIV
pitch black eyes
Definitely not white
on my list of
shit that will never happen in my lifetime
USA pope was ALWAYS in like top 5
I just never, ever expected someone from USA to ever ever be elected pope
south america and africa and asia - all I could understand
USA is just insane to me, it feels like I'm losing my mind.
this is why nobody wants to be your friend.
Good thing I'm not a Catholic.
imagine calling a shitskin "father"
Fake news, shitskin fathers don't exist.
You can just tell these faggots were hoping it was going to be a nigger pope so they could spam the board with it and now that's its just some burger they have to cope post with this shit
He's of French and Italian descent
no nigger pope
depressing
Italian
yeah, means not white
Italian mother
Mildred Martinez
Yeah that's not an italian name lmao
Latinos make good catholics, I approve
Peak U.S aryan
Wiki says he's Spaniard, french and Italian. So latino but as in European latino like the Romans themselves no? Prime catholic stock imo
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mutt's law
HIS FAMILY IS APPARENTLY FROM PERU
This is what actual Mediterraneans look like
He looks like a typical Italian grandpa. Don't know why he has a French last name though.
Yeah, what did I say?
will this bring peace between christians and mudniggers?
He's French-Italian, so he's white
he's of peruvian descent
THE POPE IS BROWN
of course, it's an amerimutt.
Hell yeah
He looks like that retarded youtube food reviewer that makes those retarded faces when eating.
Too brown to be white, but too white to be brown. He is Bronze.
the people insisting meds are white now suddenly decide a french-spaniard-italian is brown
Who the fuck cares. It’s a made up religion some kike made up to bamboozle dumbasses to do his bidding
Catholicism is done for whites after this. This made the religion super unattractive.
Mormonism will win until he's out.
He is 100% European and therefore White
Do Not be afraid.
USA USA USA God is with the USA
Jesus Christ he's 70. Are they committed to picking popes on death's door?
((Spaniard))
Looks Peruvian as fuck bro.
He’s peruvian you dumb nigger
He worked in Peru, he's not Peruvian
Black Anon Babblees seething
New pope loves migrants LOL
Then why is he brown?
Father: French and Italian
Mother: Spanish
European pre-pozzed assholes: torn to shreds like a block of pulled pork
I took a summer job in Japan 3 years ago.
I am Japanese now.
Konnichiwa, nigger-sama!
He's a Med?
He looks like a fucking pajeet. There are pakistanis who are Whiter than him
bastard soup
You forgot "bloody" pajeet
His mom is Italian
Post them
Francis was a med, this is spic-tier
Cucktolics coping hard right now.
Glad I'm an atheist.
Sicilian moor rape babies aren’t White
Looks like a typical Med to me
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Thxvh
looks italian
Ok but he’s not White
Just in time for GTA 6
Latinx ruling now
Just like Jesus
Arent' his parents from europe ?
checky but remember you're on a Congolese farmer matchmaking website where posters are conditioned to froth at the mouth whenever an American flag pops up
Mediterranean and tanning because Peru is in the Tropics.
Black lives matter supporter
Of course, he is an amerimutt dioporco schifoso
I'm 10% Italian 40% French and 20% Spanish!! I'm European, just like you!!
I hate you.
Cope. Tanning doesn’t turn your eyes and hair black. Tanning isn’t going to give you a hooked nose. I live in Texas and I still look Aryan when I tan.
why are you surprised? catholics aren't white except for like two of them
I still look Aryan
LOL
Yes. Cope
Spanish French and Italians aren’t white
Yeah the are french brown. Old ben franklin said something about that.
Anon Babble shitting on the pope for being brown
90% of this board is brown
Mormonism will win
I will become a mormon if they let me bang one of those blonde mamacitas.
They're just mad that the new pope hasn't spent all his life simping for muslims like the last pope.
This guy is undoubtably whiter than the collective of Anon Babble.
Yes, you are Indian/Pajeet
Silence kike
You now realize brown people are huge racists. Truly a shocking revelation.
His father was French. Italian mom. He was born in Chicago.
He probably looks brown because he spent the better part of his ministry in Peru. He got a fucking tan, retard.
Yeah francis was real based and trad. Enjoying all the mudslime migrants he demanded europe take in?
Your country is 41% white. Yes, Francis is based
Is nobody else’s gaydar going off?
Seethe
Nagatorobros won
Your continent isnt gonna be white at all thanks to cuck francis.
Keep seething. Vatican is ours now
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Can't wait until they install the first Burger King.
I would be more worried that he is american born, son of a ww2 veteran, high chances he is a jew simp.
He also served as an altar boy during Theodore McCarrick's time, you know he took it up the ass in his youth.
I'm thinking World Cup winners in 2026 followed by American UN Secretary-General in ’27
American King of England by 2045
I posted myself. I’m clearly not a jeet
he's something like a quarter italian (aka "sicilian" greco-arab), a quarter french (aka germano-celtic), and half spanish (aka iberian with nafri, sephardic jewish, and west african substratum).
He worked in peru and got peruvian citizenship but has no ancestral roots there
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His roots don’t matter. I can see he isn’t White by just looking at him. Look at that nose
Christianity is the way, but the Catholic Church would know nothing about it, so I am not surprised if people drift towards Islam.
Somehow, these kiddie fiddlers made Christianity look like a gay stupid power bottom. I am pretty sure that Satan's emissaries (jews) have done this.
ITT: chinks blown the fuck out!
godless bugs wanted their religion of communism to win. too bad!
White isn't a thing. Americans made it up to cope. He is broadly southern European.
Francis supported the based Russia and said that countries can control their borders. Based Francis
Mormonism is what Americans need to embrace, not arabian blasphemic slop.
It already won lmao
You sound like a coping brownoid rn. You will never be White
Hey retard, by Catholic fundamental doctrine, the Pope is setup by God himself. Stupid nigger. What you are saying is blasphemy
Arab chuds.
Francis was a Lombard. Nothing whatsoever to do with a 'med'
His mother's first name is not Spanish, he is Peruvian
Also, if I can butt in about what the new Pope actually thinks, all I can find just says he's a fairly quiet moderate. He seems to be against LGBT crap at least, he spoke against it and against woman deacons and whatnot, but said it in a way that was "diplomatic". I admit I don't like that he hasn't seemed to just say what he thinks and own up to it on moral matters.
Seemingly still more pro-immigrant like Francis was, so he's not a staunch traditionalist.
Personally I wanted Robert Sarah, but I guess we'll see what happens. Trump seems alright with this so I'm trying to keep my mind a little more open. If he can just draw a line in the sand about fag shit and then not open his mouth about how other countries do borders and politics, I'll be okay with this.
Probably Sicilian to some degree, or at least from southern Italy. Those are the ones who are niggermutts because of Moors. They tend to be far more traditionalist than northern Italians, as well as poorer, and there's more mafia influence down there than in the north.
Not that the direct culture much matters because he was born in America and spent no time growing up around that. I'd be more concerned that he grew up in Chicago.
your upper maxilla projects forward in a way that suggest distant nonwhite ancestry, less so than the pope ill give you that
you have distant nonwhite ancestery your upper maxilla projects forward, so much so that it changes the angle of how your nose attached to your face.
the Pope is setup by God himself
He is not, though, is he? God would never ever ever set up someone as corrupt as most of the wankers in the Catholic Church. Plus, if you actually read the Bible and stop listening to guys in dresses, you'll figure out really quickly that anyone who wants to do anything close to that has to be married and has to have children 1 Timothy 3:5 "For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?".
So yeah, you are a nigger that listens to guys in dresses instead of the word of God.
Woah! Shocking it ain't black!!! Just to stick it to the whyte pagan.
Anyways....
When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and churches and on the street corners to be seen by men … but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father who is unseen.
Do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
These people draw near to Me with their mouths and honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. Their worship of Me is but rules taught by men
False Christs and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect. But be on guard; I have told you all things beforehand.
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
Churches suffered from Jews who killed both the Lord Jesus and the Prophets and also persecuted us. They displease God and have become enemies of the entire human race.
So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the wilderness,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it
He is french and italian born in america
A bong wants to lecture us on spiritual corruption?
You're not saying it right. "The pope is" can only be followed by "selling homosexuality to the livestock." Nobody needs a homosexual church whose only job is to sell sex to the livestock so they make babies. That's all they will ever be and this particular shaman sounds like he''s got a lot of time set aside for illegal immigration. There's no point in hearing what any shaman has to say if they are going to preach "obey the law" and "reward the crime". It's pure homosexual. What he says is just words.
Are you a bot or are you genuinely having a stroke?
Amen.
You missed the part about these faggots wearing long robes.
I would never promote the Anglican church. It is full of fags and degenerates. They copied the Catholics quite well in that regard.
I am the only white person.
When you select a pope with an orgy. Didn't take long before they started tapping out. Pedos in the Vatican lack stamina.
Martínez
You know nothing about us. It's still a requirement that a Catholic priest cannot be gay, even though he is required to be celibate. Meanwhile, Protestants are all too eager to put women and trannies in the priesthoods.
Your problem, mainly, is that you are scattered. You have no authority to rally around for strength. You stand together or die separately. And right now, arguably more than ever in our history, we cannot afford to be divided among thousands of insular little groups who are all against each other. Now is when we should be talking of rebuilding what has been split and shattered, not shattering the pieces even more as the barbarians bang at the gates. Cardinal Robert Sarah is still right even if he was not made Pope, we are under attack by outside forces and inside rot. I'm still not even sold on Prevost, or Leo XIV now, I'm mainly keeping my mind open in judgement of his character for various reasons, so I'm not shilling him here.
I was going to say before that he isn't hispanic, but it seems someone keeps fucking with the wiki page. Earlier, it said his father was French and his mother was Italian, now it's saying his father is French and Italian and his mother is Spanish. Still, it doesn't say Peruvian. He only went there after he was assigned there as a bishop, his priesthood was largely still in Chicago.
Looks like older version of Louis Rossmann
He literally is according to the Catholic doctrine
he looks slightly tanned and jesus was brown too so what?
this. poltards cope because he isnt white aryan gigachad
Catholicism creeps me the fuck out.
still a requirement that a Catholic priest cannot be gay
Lmao and that is good enough for you? Well it isn't good enough for God.
Protestants are all too eager to put women and trannies in the priesthoods
I don't care. Who cares about that? I care about what the Bible says, not that some degenerates try to associate themselves with God. The Catholic Church is in the same position.
You have no authority to rally around for strength.
Yeah, you will notice, if you read the Bible, that there is no concept of a "universal" (or catholic) church. That "universal" concept is always spoken of in contempt and is generally called "the spirit of Babylon".
Now is when we should be talking of rebuilding what has been split and shattered, not shattering the pieces even more as the barbarians bang at the gates
If you do not believe in salvation by grace through faith, we have very little in common in terms of religious views. The barbarians and you are the same from my standpoint: you both believe you can work your way to heaven.
I'm mainly keeping my mind open in judgement of his character for various reasons, so I'm not shilling him here
There has never ever been a saved pope. Not one. None of them said "you have to believe in Christ alone and you are saved, it doesn't matter if you go to church or not or if you give us money or not, just believe and you will be saved eternally".
Whitest american
(((hmmmmm)))
chinks really are THAT petty aren't they?
print an extra billion books that will never be read, just to be sure.
I think plenty of us were hoping for Robert Sarah for his hardline traditionalist stances. Most of why I'm not a fan of him is that, while he does seem to be not as far gone as Francis was, he isn't exactly a traditionalist. I've held throughout this election that what we need is a strong, moralist candidate who will hold to our values. Robert Sarah being incredibly pro-European also helped some.
As long as he rolls back the shit like blessing fag couples (which he's said he doesn't agree with), I'll be fine. As a Catholic, there's no moral reason why you can't just decide to vote far right/anti-immigration, even if the Pope says he doesn't want you to do that. Immigration is NOT a spiritual concern, politics are NOT the sphere of the Pope. Not since Victor Emmanuel anyway.
As long as he doesn't shit the bed and keeps quiet, we'll be fine.
Well, the Catholic doctrine says that you should listen to a dude in a dress and a funny hat, not only that, but your last pope loved homos, which are invariably put on blast in the Bible. So either you think God made a mistale when he appointed Francis or you believe that the church and God's will diverged. One of the two.
Oh wait they HAVE to be read as mandated by your shit commie state! should be categorized with school textbooks sales.
Will the new Pope overturn Vatican 2?
I wouldn't even mind a black pope wasn't it for the anti white agenda going on. They seem much more in touch with God actually and praising Jesus than a lot of the pretentious counter part.
This Leo guy however, my guts tell me hes s homo. It's just, idk. I think he is gay.
Also why the fuck are popes not virgins?.
like oo ye its normal to have intimacy, love, teach eachother and stuff, its part of life yeah sure. NOT IF YR THE FUCKING POPE. WTF
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He prolly did coke too.. ?!.. he was a fucking bouncer??? watt
Lmao and that is good enough for you? Well it isn't good enough for God.
God doesn't want straight clergymen?
I don't care. Who cares about that?
Apparently you do
if you read the Bible, that there is no concept of a "universal" (or catholic) church
Actually, the Hebrews had a high priest who ruled in much the same manner as a Pope would. The only time a universal faith was opposed was by the Jews, who didn't want to let the gentiles have salvation, as if they could stop us anyway.
If you do not believe in salvation by grace through faith, we have very little in common in terms of religious views
you both believe you can work your way to heaven
The barbarians believe they can slaughter their way there with a mountain of our corpses. And you do realize that it is both of these things that are true, yes? Ultimately, God does hold the final say. However, do you really think God would want to damn a truly good man who did good works out of the kindness of his heart? Doing works without faith is not something we believe in, you should do works because you have faith. Some guy just doing good things, but for the wrong reasons, isn't doing so to save himself but to appear good. Someone truly good does that because it is right. It's such a tedious argument.
There has never ever been a saved pope. Not one.
And who are you to judge? Haven't you said that it's God who saves? So why do you speak as if you have the authority?
My first thought, just a bleached pajeet.
This pope has caused alot of euronigger seethe kek.
Simple, we were being punished with Francis. Hopefully the tribulations are over.
POPEJEET
Solid nose bro. Definitely got northern European DNA. Ignore these desperate children.
He's literally of European descent. Still a faggot though.
mystery meat, not white
the last racist Catholicuck
while the rest are busy importing niggers in the name of God, because in their opinion God said
and take all the beast of burden and put them in your House and encourage your women and daughters to lay with them.
there have been plenty of italian popes already calm down
you really think God would want to damn a truly good man who did good works out of the kindness of his heart?
There is no such thing as a "good man," unfortunately.
Romans 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
And who are you to judge? Haven't you said that it's God who saves?
Matthew 12:34 "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh"
Hence why I believe there is no saved pope. As I mentioned above, if there was one, they'd tell you what I am telling you: you cannot work your way to heaven. None of us deserve to be there, we can only go through Jesus, by believing in His sacrifice.
Isaiah 53:5 "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."
That is a huge amount of cope without giving an answer: do you believe God was wrong by appointing Francis or do you think that the church and God's will diverged?
So you think we don't believe in the sacrifice of Christ? What do you think the Eucharist is?
I did give an answer, and it was neither thing you said. I fully believe that Francis was only made Pope as a punishment and a trial to be set upon us. He was indeed the legitimate Pope. That is my own personal belief.
If you want a more "doctrinal" answer, the Pope is only considered infallible when speaking Ex Cathedra. Most things that any Pope says are not this, and the same goes with Francis. Do you believe that God was wrong in choosing Saul or David to lead the Israelites? Or did God's will and the Temple diverge?
oh no, the catholic church has a new pope that is of italian and spanish and french descent. how on earth could the church have an italian-spanish-french pope? there has never in history been a pope of italian or spanish or french descent. this must be jewishness at work. we all know that there aren't even catholics in italy, spain or france, they don't even believe in god. i mean, italy, spain and france aren't european nations at all, how on earth could the catholic church elect a pope who is italian and spanish and french? it is a mystery. what is the world coming to.
he's spoken against homosexuality, gay adoption, gender faggotry and the normalization of these before. also anti-euthanasia. so he seems legit enough. we'll see what happens.
you're a protestant. you don't even know what the bible says. you just pick and chose it to say whatever you want it to, depending on what the wind and ghosts in your mentally deranged head tell you on the day.
cope, seethe, dilate alone.
that there is no concept of a "universal" (or catholic) church.
case in point.
I read on Telegram that he’s part Ecuadorian.
bro is kind of cute
no homo
Looks Italian to me
all brown people look the same
based
No, I know you don't believe in Jesus' sacrifice or if you do, you think it is not enough. Either way, you trust in your works to get you to heaven one way or another (whether it is to get you saved or keep you saved), but God told you not to do that explicitly
Romans 4
"4Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."
Well, that is simple, I don't believe that God was ever wrong, but I also know that God doesn't tempt anyone to sin, which is what Francis did by encouraging homos
James 1:13 "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:"
noooooo i am going to sit at home and scream and make shit up BECAUSE I AM RIGHT OK
lol. you're hilarious.
What do you make of his chosen name, too? From what I understand, Leo is usually donned by Popes who enter office in times of tribulation. Pius (one of my personal favorites) is typically taken by more conservative, traditional Popes, for example, so I'm not sure if Leo says a lot about him generally.
Leo XIII seems to have been generally alright, kind of a middle-of-the-road Pope. Decried socialism, but also laissez-faire capitalism, but still enshrined stuff like personal property and commerce and all that, and was in favor of things like workers rights and unions. He's the one that made Thomas Aquinas an integral reading, and said that faith and science (real science, not modern cult science) coexist, and encouraged scientific endeavors from the Church. Maybe for the 1880s he was more progressivist, but now this seems fairly tame, maybe even slightly right-leaning considering he was against socialism and IIRC wrote a Papal bull against it. Not sure what all that means for Leo XIV now, though. But if he's willing to take up a more traditional stance against homosexuality and the like, I figure we can deal with anything else.
i think that at least 50% of the virtuous and wholesome never read it
and those that did have less than two marbles in their heads since somehow they miss out on all of the points
especially first two which can be seen at all times
hence the cursed existence of them and those around them
What are you talking about, you absolute spastic?
His face is noticeable assymmetric, a clear indication of a mutted origin.
no idea.
i am laughing at your delusional, preening, demented faggotry, you cocksucking retard. say something fucking stupid again, i need a good laugh. while you're there, throw another cherry picked quote in the mix again, i love it when schizophrenics construct entire dogmas from single sentences.
Basing your racism on skin tone and not facial features/bone structures is very low IQ behavior and no surprise that it's peddled so hard here.
A niggers ape jawline and alien skull is more repulsive to me than their shit colored skin.
This guy is obviously not subhuman, so anyone pushing this rhetoric is a shill.
Just like your king
I know you don't believe in Jesus' sacrifice or if you do, you think it is not enough.
What makes you say this? Because I do.
Either way, you trust in your works to get you to heaven one way or another
What about what I've said of faith? Do you just not believe in doing good things for other people? I think it's something good to do. I don't hold it against anyone if they aren't able to. I admit that I myself do not volunteer very much. Perhaps I should. I try to help when something is before me. The only things I generally avoid helping with is when I see cars with emergency lights on the side of the road, because I'm paranoid that it might be a serial killer or human trafficker trying to trick me. Maybe that isn't good of me, but I figure that they have phones and have probably already called someone.
Well, that is simple, I don't believe that God was ever wrong, but I also know that God doesn't tempt anyone to sin, which is what Francis did by encouraging homos
Well, doctrinally speaking, considering that nothing Francis said about homos was Ex Cathedra, therefore not of God, do you not think that perhaps Francis served a different purpose, despite his own sins? David sinned, as did Saul. But both were set to their tasks by God. Men do sin and are fallible. Even the Pope can be fallible. The only time he isn't, is when he speaks Ex Cathedra, which is when God speaks through him. But this is not a common occurrence by any means. I'm not actually sure Francis actually said anything Ex Cathedra.
Perhaps my own personal view of Francis is slightly flawed in that regard. Mainly, I regard his punishment over us being how he has humiliated us with what he says, allowing others to speak against us. In that, perhaps I should acquiesce to being beaten about the brow by you and yours for the sins of Francis, if God wishes that we face punishment in that way.
I'm not so sure we should bully him. Such hardness will only turn him away.
I don’t know which one is more humiliating, that a brownoid represents America or that yuro goys will have to worship a brownie.
I thought up a couple of rap verses because I thought it was going to be the black Congo dude. So I’m pretty disappointed overall.
Those are bong tourists, real meds are sweeping the floors and cleaning the toilets
Why do Catholics do this to themselves?
what's the problem? brown pope for a brown religion
Don't spanish and italians mix often
Looks purrto rickan
I still look aryan when I tan
christnigger will kneel kek!
He is Italian French muttoid.
They look more like that in central and southern Italy, in differing degrees.
Northern Italians are more fair in the skin, hair, and eyes due to more German admixture. This includes Venice, which is a lot colder than you'd expect even in summer. Venetians are also fucking weird, they're incredibly distrustful of anyone that isn't from Venice, they get all cagey and generally keep to themselves, and won't speak to you very much.
Central Italians (Rome, Florence, etc) aren't really mixed with anything as a whole, they look fairly European in their features but are tanned with darker hair and eyes. Their behavior is more loose than the northerners, they get loud and drink and party. Rome is sleepier, Florence is awake almost all night long with crowded bars. Also, for some reason there was a fuckload of Asian tourists in Florence. I saw a Japanese girl with her face powdered white and in a frilly lolita dress there, and she wasn't much of an oddball.
Southern Italy is a place that's poor, very conservative/traditional, and has a strong mafia presence. They're the ones who are mixed with Moor blood, the further south you go, the more Moor they are, culminating in Sicily. And they're poor enough that I don't recommend drinking the tap water, I tried and it was slimy. This was around Naples, Sorrento, and Capri, though I can't say much for Naples as I didn't go there. Didn't really have time to take the train over there. Anyway, they're darker, moreso than this new Pope.
Also, I don't know if I should admit this, but I had a hard-on almost the whole time in Sorrento and Capri, it's so hot there in summer that the women generally just wear bikini tops and shorts everywhere. I know they're mixed with Moors the further south you go but holy fuck, I needed that delicious brown pussy so bad. Didn't get it though.
hide the pain herald
and you like it, niggatoro posting brazilian
Doing good deeds and salvation are two different things. Nobody said "don't do good", as a matter of fact you should do good everywhere, people should have a good account of you as a person so they have no reason to blaspheme God. And that applies in all areas of life, from your job to your family life and then to the way you interact with the needy or the church itself.
Nobody is arguing against doing good deeds. What I am arguing is the importance of good deeds as part of salvation and what I am saying is that your good deeds do not matter in that regard at all.
These are two different things: salvation is a gift (at no cost) from God and good deeds, He will reward, but there is a case to be made for a man who got saved, but has got no good deeds.
From 1 Cor 3:15 "If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."
This is talking about a man whose works did not serve God, but believed. The man is saved, but he shall see no rewards.
Argentine pope: white
American pope: brown
lmfao
His mother was the daughter of Louisiana Creole parents, Joseph Martinez and Louise Baquié, from New Orleans, who were of African, French, and Spanish descent. Martinez was Afro-Haitian, and Baquié a Black Creole.
cope
Doing good deeds and salvation are two different things
Yeah, but they seem very much linked. I'd think that a person with a good heart would be motivated to do good if he can. A person with a bad heart could also be doing good just for his own fame and glory, and other vain reasons, so clearly he isn't having faith. Overall it isn't my place to judge. I mainly just think about the second case, because while Christ says it's better to do good deeds in secret, I would rather do that for a more personal reason that I'd feel embarrassed and anxious at having to interact with someone. So I try to be discrete mainly for that reason, I think, which actually is why I doubt myself.
people should have a good account of you as a person so they have no reason to blaspheme God
Exactly this, I agree.
What I am arguing is the importance of good deeds as part of salvation
Well yeah. What if one isn't able to do any good deeds? Doesn't seem fair to me.
I also wished to add earlier that this isn't just me being different. My priest even told me after a confession that it wasn't the confession to him that mattered, Christ's sacrifice is what allows the forgiveness of sins, if I am truly sorry for them. A confession is sort of like a doctor's visit, you can have a sort of assurance that you've done proper penance to atone for sins. Even if you were to die with sin on your soul before being able to confess, or atone, or anything like that, we do believe in Purgatory, which many other of you have forgotten. It isn't named, but Christ describes it in the Bible. In that way, a person who is worthy of salvation but was unable to repent in life can still do so. This may be more of a point of contention between us than the works thing. I see it as another example of God's infinite mercy for the faithful, that even those whose sins in life would prevent them from entering heaven can make it.
Where do you see that?
99% of Popes were Italian, chud.
If you 100% trust in Jesus' sacrifice on the cross for your salvation and you truly believe that God raised Him from the dead and it is only by Christ's blood that you are absolved of sin, you are saved. Congratulations. You also are not a Catholic.
Catholics believe that works and faith are necessary for salvation, which is patently not true, nowhwere in the Bible are works defined as a prerequisite for salvation, it is all faith, which is what that last verse was about and, if you think about it, the thief next to Jesus on the cross, he did no works either and guess where he is right now?
Anyway, if you just have faith and you don't say stuff "oh, I better do some works just to be safe" or something similar, you are 100% saved and we shall see each other in heaven.
Fucking Protestants man, they're so fucking stupid. They're dumb ass bitches.
he's an Augustinian you tard
hey the pope is going to be a nigger
hey the pope is going to be an asian
hurr durr the pope is still brown
ironically the true pope would be a wop AKA as a brown
they are seething because the nigger or the flip wasn't picked, this is their cope
why are wops brown?
it's mystery of why a mediterranean area has tanned people. Could it be the climate?
You also are not a Catholic.
I am, I was confirmed as one, attend mass, go to confession, believe wholly that the Eucharist is the true Body and Blood of Christ poured out for us, in Purgatory, that the Pope is the rightful successor to Peter who holds the keys of Heaven and Earth, etc.
Catholics believe that works and faith are necessary for salvation
It's worded in a way that may seem like that, but it is part of our beliefs that God is the ultimate judge here. I just don't think it's crazy to say "God likes you doing nice things for people, so he probably likes you doing that". Still, it isn't gonna damn you for not doing that if you can't.
That said, there is the concept of just standing by and allowing something bad to happen when intervention was simple. But that's classed as sin through inaction, rather than good works being required. Like, if a guy is dangling from a cliff and begs you to pull him up, and you just stand there and watch him as he slowly loses his grip and falls, I'd say that puts culpability on you. Perhaps not quite murder, but you know, you would have just let a man die when he could have been saved. What do you think on this? Does pulling the man up count as good works, or is it merely the avoidance of sin?
If anything, I would think my personal insistence on regularly attending confession for my sins would put me at odds with you. It's something I hear Protestants complain about now and then.
You all wanted the nigger pope.
Lol. That's what sudacas do. Spaniards either don't work or have actual jobs
It's pol, what do you expect. They want the worst of things and all to mahe 1 day of memes before the next shiny news story hits the headlines. What a bunch of autistic freaks
His dad fucked a black qveen
looks like a jew to me
And boomer too, for he is born in 1955!
The Bible is very clear about inaction.
James 4:17 "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."
So yes, it is a sin to know to do good and not doing it.
attend mass, go to confession, believe wholly that the Eucharist is the true Body and Blood of Christ poured out for us, in Purgatory, that the Pope is the rightful successor to Peter who holds the keys of Heaven and Earth, etc.
As far as I can tell none of this matters. You have to keep in mind that I base 100% of my beliefs on the Bible itself and nothing that any council decided. I really do hope that you solely believe in Jesus' sacrifice for salvation, but you should know that Catholics do not believe that.
Like this is from the Council of Trent:
Canon 12. If anyone says that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in divine mercy, which remits sins for Christ's sake, or that it is this confidence alone that justifies us, let him be anathema.
Canon 24. If anyone says that the justice (righteousness) received is not preserved and also not increased before God through good works but that those works are merely the fruits and signs of justification obtained, but not the cause of the increase, let him be anathema.
So you may be saved, but you absolutely are not a catholic.
White Islam is the way desu
Hold the fucking phone, you're trying to get me excommunicated through subterfuge?
Alright, that's it. This is no good thing you have tried to do, otherwise you wouldn't have hidden from me.
I will ask you this, do you consider Maccabees or other deuterocanonical books to be part of the Bible, or not?