Are Chinks going back to poverty?

Nonsense. The destiny of America is the stars, not playing dirt with China on earth. The rational way is to operate on behalf of Americans' best interest.

t. Chang but who likes America

Zeihan needs to get a real job

back

they were always poor thirdies (definitionally)

These videos are as cherry-picked and fraudulent as the ones showing how "empty and barren" US stores were in the fucking egg saga.

Well sorta.
China doesn’t care about standard of living.
Everything can go to shit and it won’t matter, China won’t collapse, because they are so used to horrible living conditions that it won’t matter.

The Chinese people do not deserve to suffer more than they already are. They have been under Jewish control for a long time. Since the unison of China.

The Chinese people do. That's why Xi is in such a difficult position now. Yuan devaluation is inevitable but will cause a lot of angry buzzing in the hive.

Now would be a good time to take Taiwan; they can't lose any more business with the U.S. now, so the deterrence is gone.
Remember when one of their hot-dogging interceptors collided with one of our spy planes flying over the Sea of China? They lost their pilot and were holding our crew who had to make an emergency landing in China. They were planning a show-trial, but almost immediately agreed to return them when U.S. sales of Chinese merchandise dropped to zero. Economics > politics.

Visit any big chinese city and you'll see their standard of living is pretty comparable or better than most developed countries. They still have the autistic gender war shit/horrible corporate culture you see in every east asian country but it isn't much different.

The ability to bear bad environment has reduced a lot after the 20 years of high growth. The Chinese zoomers play Minecraft and watch anime too. The real differences is the submissive collective hive mind. Chinese government can bring out Covid Shanghai level lock down at any time with no major social unrest.

This is basically the true reason why China can't into economic prosperity in the past 2000 years. The power of the elite, unchecked in a fertile ground of rampant bootlickers, faces no effective restraint.

The number of elites and their capacity for plunder swell continuously with the perpetuation of any dynasty, rendering any effective free market unsustainable until the system ultimately collapses and everything starts anew.

I am extremely pessimistic about China precisely because, without Western markets, the internal economic cycle cannot be established due to the CCP's interest groups. For example, local governments and state-owned enterprises in China can arbitrarily accrue debt, and private business owners who sue them may even be arrested without reason.

The average Chinese guy will go to grad school for engineering just go work 996 in a factory.

They are definitely technology advance, but you aren’t going to convince me that their standard of living isn’t complete shit.

How are you going to stop the rest of the world buying Chinese products?
Probably everything in your room is made in China or made in China and assembled in Mexico.

The orange turd is going to lower tariffs to 50% next week

any effective free market

Yeah it's better to have a class of banking parasites in the west that strip mine everything and get bailed out every 7 years with taxpayers funds or federal reserve money printing

Probably not. It's difficult to find examples in history of countries reverting to poverty just because of one small thing. Usually it takes war, disease, and extremely bad economic policy, none of which China has. The more unregulated an economy is, the more nimble and flexible, the easier it is to adapt.
The closest example I can find is Argentina, which used to be rich and became poor in the 1900s when other countries applied tariffs to one another and they lost some of their markets. However, there were other forces affecting Argentina, they had a populist president and they had strong competition. But China right now is a very efficient manufacturer, they're difficult to compete against, and they don't seem to have retard-tier economic policy, as much of the west does.
So they'll adapt. They'll find other markets to export to. If they have to switch the types of goods they're making, they can do it.

yes, in a mere two weeks.

CHINA WILL COLLAPSE ANYDAY NOW GOY

the destiny of America is to pollute the galaxy with infinity niggers

The neoliberalist banking parasite elites in the west always thinks china is about to collapse because they are a bunch of jews and only care about stacking up debt and making profit.
China just cares about spamming steel power plants and industrial capacity which can be translated into missiles ships and the future uab drones and robots. They don't care if debt goes bad or if they don't make a profit.

They don't care if debt goes bad or if they don't make a profit.

And that's why their economy is collapsing.

Trump is the dumbest mf ever to be president.

Why didn't they save him?

muh insects chink bug insurance fraud liability

There I covered the buzzword answers
Anyone actually have something insightful to say?

economy is collapsing

There is no such thing as a financial crisis. That's just a psyop that jews plant in your brain because they want free bailouts.

Do the factories go poof if debt goes bad? Mutts are so brainwashed by jews it's incredible.

Of course it can't be 100% fundamentalism free market. It was proven not working in the 1930s. But shit is definitely better than any other bullshit like communism etc

Do you own anything valued over $100k?

inb4 reply consisting of more than one word

Do the factories go poof if debt goes bad?

No, they just stop making stuff and slowly rust. Magic isn't real anon, so nothing just goes poof.

they probably thought they could get rich by making a movie about it instead of helping him, same thing art fags and women do in america to people

idk thats my guess

spamming USAID propaganda

Does it look like the US is sticking to free markets or moving to a command economy with tariffs and state directed industrial policy
You are brainwashed

50 years of kikery bailouts and buyback. If the usa made the correct decisions and didn't weaken it so much china would never dream of usurping it's world position.

The genetic modify tech is coming. We will spread beautiful space niggers to the galaxies.

The race problem is nonsense in the long run if you consider technology.

The Chinese are modifying humans now.
science.org/content/article/did-crispr-help-or-harm-first-ever-gene-edited-babies

This. I think the Chinese govt actually sponsors the making of those videos. They want westerners to think China is struggling because it lures them into thinking the country isnt a threat, is collapsing, etc

Jews killed the west with financialization
You worship these Goldman Sachs parasites that add nothing of value to the nation state besides blowing up massive leverage bubbles and asking for bailouts
You were robbed

I'm worth 800k, 560k in my brokerage and the rest in ira 401k

not my problem

The chinese went through a communist revolution where 100million died. Any person with the empathy required to save a random drowning child was purged. This is what's left.

Now you're just babbling lmao.

I'm pretty sure your congress openly approves a few hundred millions to spam China bad each year.

Oh poor West, always like a powerless maiden, being made do this or that by the all powerful kikes...

No probably not. This reeks of the same two more weeks until chink collapse shit I’ve heard since my first memories in the early 90’s

Or a jew

two more weeks

I'm not babbling at all. The pentagon is asking the military industrial complex where the fuck are the missiles.

They blew 3 billion on missiles attacking the houthis and the houthis are still there. The US used to have 100 military industrial companies and now have 5 that take all the money and do stock buybacks.

That anon you’re responding to is just a jew globohomo shill. He’ll never debate in good faith with you

China lost and Xi cucked.

Yeah, Xi just lowered Chinese tariffs on US goods to 80% trying to open negotiations, but even them didn't get any answer from the other side.

What a cuck

the US is 5% of the world's population
why do you think they will account for 25% of the world's consumption forever?

US used to be 40% of the world's consumption and is 25% and in the future will go down to 15% or lower.

This is the last gasp of the US for global relevance as they fight multiple wars on multiple fronts with a 3 trillion dollar annual deficit
It's gotten so bad trump is trying to raise taxes lmao

While China is actually polluting the world with dogshit environmental regulations

A lot of what is "made in China" is actually "assembled in China" from components imported from the US and Europe. Tariffs on these imports only compound the problem for Chinese producers.

This is the last gasp of the US for global relevance

Hey we pope now nigga

Two more weeks

Amirite?

Why don't you build your own drones then

We made up 30% of China's export economy.
Yea it's going to have an effect.
China should have taken the phone calls from Trump he repeatedly tried to do instead of ignoring him.
But that's okay China's got this right? Yea right.

Don't be angry :)
Ukraine assembles all their own droes much in the manner Chinese factories do, yes.

It is more about dollar. Countries have to sell shit to the US to get dollar.

Why do they have to get dollar? Because dollar is the global reserve currency.

What does global reserve currency do? Say China want to buy onions beans from brazil and oil from Middle East, the Chinese has to pay dollar to them. RMB just don't work.

Why People use dollar? It is the crystallization of American international hegemony. It is the combination of reputation, credit, high tech and military base. Dollar hegemony is the highest form of US hegemony

American consumers have the highest purchasing power not because of their population, but because of the hegemony of the US dollar

This is so fucking bad I'll just assume it's sarcasm and have a laugh.

I was just shitting on the toilet and I had a thought
A lot of retailers are going to see the prices of their stock rise dramatically and yet for the past few years I've been hearing constant stories about how people are flagrantly looting in the USA and that retailers don't do anything because it's not worth it
Are we going to see spikes of looting in the USA?
Are we going to see rooftop koreans make a comeback?
What about hiring private security?
Are businesses going to be able to survive with skyrocketing insurance premiums?
What do Americans here think will happen

We made up 30% of China's export economy.

You make up 16% of China's exports, and a bit less than 3% of China's GDP.

If trade with the US was a Chinese city, it'd be number 8th in terms of GDP.

I made you angry and you have no response, only seethe. Lotta chinks in Brazil now too. They're everywhere because anywhere is better than being back home.

EU sends components to China so China can assemble and export it back to the EU so they can assemble it again

this is some stupid cope

Ok how does the dollar remain the reserve currency if the US they don't want to have trade deficits anymore?
Obviously it doesn't remain the reserve currency. The US is finally coming to terms of the Triffin's dilemma and trying to undo deindustrialization.

That's why you see something like taiwan dollars appreciate 10% in a week. The arrangement of the US supplying their currency to the world as a reserve currency is over.

I don't care about anything getting more expensive except for houses. I would gladly pay 100 bucks for a bag of beans and another 100 bucks for a sack of rice and just eat like a peasant if it meant I could own property.

I would pay 25 bucks to take a bath, 2 dollars to flush the toilet. I would spend 1,000 on a dozen eggs.

EU sends components to China so China can assemble and export it back to the EU so they can assemble it again

Yes, that's correct lmao. Chinese will work for such little money, that's why it is done this way.

I would spend 1,000 on a dozen eggs

I ALREADY FUCKING AM

4/10, trying too hard.

youtube.com/watch?v=2wacXUrONUY

The conception is that companies come to China because of low labor cost I'm not sure uh what part of China they go to but the truth is China stopped being the low labor cost country many years ago and that is not the reason to come to China from a supply point of view

You have no idea what's going on at all

two more weeks

no response confirmed lmao
no clicking that sorry

Extend your chart out another week.

Tried to make one, it didn't fit in a screen

Ok how does the dollar remain the reserve currency if the US they don't want to have trade deficits anymore?

Yes it is a problem. Not sure how Trump America is heading. I guess at the end of the day reserve currency status is more important than sock and pants factories. America will still have trade deficits but:

1. No hostile countries can get money

2. Trade deficits will reduce to a financially sustainable level

3. No need to bring back all manufacturing (you need to provide dollars to this world) but the high end and critical industry should be in control like shipbuilding industry

BTW as a Chinese 30 year old boomer I like America but I can't decide how CCP behaves. We don't even have votes.

I like Chinese girls and don’t want anything bad to happen to them, not a fan of the ones raised here.

it's already a one year chart
how do you expand another week?

Do you understand the triffin dilemma or not?
You might want to watch a youtube video on it because you're claiming the US wants to be a reserve currency while slapping tariffs on everyone and trying to cut deficits to zero.

We don't even have votes.

stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote
India would be so much better if only the brahmin were allowed to vote. the average IQ is 75 there
voting is gay

Lucky for you Anon, those prices are right around the corner.

Also you have another problem in that you think financial power is preeminent when actually financial power is a second derivative of industrial and technological power

I'm not too impressed with you honestly. Thought chinese people were supposed to be smart

If china really is collapsing they should start selling their trillion of american bonds and stop buying 10% of all american bonds every month

that would cause the yuan to rise against the dollar and crush their exports even more

The communist dictatorship that runs China will never lose face to the US. China can put up with more economic pain than the US. If anything, Chinese citizens have been increasingly rallying behind a hard-line stance against the US since Trump's second election. No way they will ever acquiesce to US demands

They are collapsing so they can't be picky

Your take is a very old schooled mercantilism but it is not how modern economic work. Producing a shit tons of things with no buying power to maintain it (" financial power " works on this side ) means nothing.

1930s great depression has proven this. (your muh industrial power collapsed on its own weight) and soon China will show you how factories collectively collapse in a short time not because of bomb but because of lack of orders.

But High-tech and military industries is any story. These are backbones of dollar power.

kyle bass the loser hedge fund china basher shorted the hong kong dollar expecting it to crash but hand to get bailed out when the bet went the other way. Hong Kong had to bail out his idiot bet. He also blew up his two funds fucking loser

Also the braniacs behind trump's tariffs thought the dollar would strengthen with tariffs and offset the loss of consumption power fucking retards.

RMB dipped Chyna is collapsing!!!

RMB went up Chyna is collapsing no exports

haha lol

The gooks working in factories only go in life is to be able to afford a refrigerator and a television.

is any story

is another story

Just explaining basic causality and what would happen. There is no need for you to be upset.

Producing a shit tons of things with no buying power to maintain it (" financial power " works on this side ) means nothing.

wrong
Read Say's Law - supply creates its own demand

The west is currently in a mode of total schizophrenic thought trying to remove a poisonous neoliberal way of thinking that hollowed it out for 50 years while still clinging to central neoliberal tenets.

Americans live in a fantasy world where they want china to collapse and continue to buy their bonds at the same time

Then you can't explain 1930s great depression. President Hoover's tariffs drove out any foirign supply in American market. It is a great example of how a almost isolated economy creates its own demand.

China is also an great example. For example it controls like 100% of world toy making and it barely creates demand. The factory workers can't afford shit.

if you go back in history and examine nixon kissinger brzezinski acheson these guys were giants towering in intellect and strategy. If the US had any of these guys I'd be shaking in their boots.

The people running things now are all clowns. Last twenty years of foreign policy is just straight up disaster and I don't expect it to change. There is no way to get upset.

If you overdose on retarded propaganda - sure. Meanwhile their exports have risen overall, despite substantiall fall to the US.

explain 1930s great depression

there was 10:1 leverage going on in the stock market.
you can explain it with a full Minsky cycle
China realized that their real estate was turning into this and crashed it early

this guy's constant, low-effort videos of him talking in front of a green screen bring in over 25k views each and probably is a major part of his income

meanwhile I work 60 hours as a wagie and my furry fart videos struggle to rake in 20 views unless I post them on Anon Babble

Un-fucking-believable

Jews are evil.

collapse of internal demand will do that

well well well, financial things are working huh?

Anyway it is really retarded to seriously argue shit on Anon Babble and English is my second language. I won't go further on this but please remember buying power is the most critical thing in industrial civilization. To make shit you can literally just follow some protocol to buy template factories and suddenly produce shit tons of stuff. It is not hard. China has moved many of its factories to SEA to avoid tariffs. It all happens in several years and now Thailand, Vietnam etc all can produce shit tons of things now.

There is no magic here.

yeah the money printing is the strongest theory vs industry is the strongest theory is going to go head to head

But if you remember WWII it was the US having the largest industry that lead it to becoming the hegemon. So historically I think it's already settled.

Vietnam and Thailand do not have factories on the scale of China and most of the factories there use chinese technology or industrial equipment anyways. Real strength is not money printing but having a society that values engineering industry math and science. A nation of 300 million engineers.

you're probably from hong kong
hong kong has financialization sickness where you turn into a jew and think money is everything.

If money was everything why is trump trying to bring factories back?

B-B-BUT THE MEDIA TOLD ME TARIFFS ONLY HURT US????

THE MEDIA WOULDN't LIE!!!

buy stuff from china. my chinese wives are hungry

Fucking no lol. They have the factories, they are where everyone sells their raw materials, they are where the skilled labor is. All the production that fed the american glut will now go to the aging chinese population instead. They are about to witness a consumer explosion in their country because of how many products will turn inwards instead of seeking dollars.

Ni hao! Keep calm and cook dogs. We won't starve.

I have said high tech and military strength are one of the most impotant backbones of Dollar hegemony and American hegemony so of course critical industry should go back to America like ship and chip manufacturing. TSMC isn't American company but it has to go back to America too.

The whole shit roots in National Security

But other manufacturing is not that important like Textile, Toy, etc etc

turn into a jew

The Jews are successful, no?

critical industry should go back to America like ship and chip manufacturing.

It can never go back. shipbuilding takes decades to build up and by then it's too late. Japan and SK capacity is just not enough.
The US sends their smartest people to wall street to front run retail traders a useless parasitic activity or to silicon valley where they do pump and dump stock sales on the public

The Jews are successful, no?

I think jews are successful but they were created by the european elites to focus excessively on money right now the US suffers from financialization sickness.
You suffer from a very bad case of it
I mentioned how the great depression was a case of over-financialization and you took it the opposite way that finance was important

How many years have they been saying that Russia and China are going to collapse in two more weeks? Nothing ever happens.

Dude I am too lazy to type shit tons of message I am going to get a morning blow job in recent massage house.

I still believe the United States will remain the world's most powerful nation, representing humanity, and will ultimately reach the stars.

Not for any other reason, but because it has courageous people like Trump and Elon Musk (though I don’t fully agree with their policies). In China, you can never expect to find such people who challenge the system.

I believe America’s elite will eventually resolve these contradictions. All my assets are in U.S. bonds and stocks. I also invest to American anti-aging Pharmaceutical startups like OraBiomedical (I see it as donation lol)

May the force be with America.

All my assets are in U.S. bonds and stocks.

Guess you're smart and Buffett is dumb for building his cash hoard

You are not impressive to me in any way for a chinese person just a tesla cultist

I explained that the great depression was 10:1 stock market leverage. A reasonable person would say why is there 10:1 leverage there? Are they producing 10 times the output? No? It's just gambling? And then it crashed the way it did.

You had the opposite take. That finance is so important wow wow finance is so important.

For a chinese person you are not smart or impressive

The US is the largest consumer market there is. Sure other countries will keep buying from them, but if they lose even a quarter of the sales they now make to the US consumer, the Chinese economy will be fucked.

Say if you buy MSFT in the peak of net bobble at 38 dollar. Today it is $438, so basically you get x11.5 return if you just leave it there. At the same time Berkshire Hathaway only gets x8.9

Buffett barely invested in any technology and we are very different investors. I believe the AI progress will make the currrent downturn a dip to buy. I buy Tesla shares at $177 when I knew the end to end neural network based FSD worked and I never sold a single share after.

I don't care even if Elon fucked it up. I am glad to financial support the brave adventurers. If I were a medieval Spanish noble, I would definitely invest in Columbus too.

Nice, I volunteer to shelter 3 chinkettes that are 18-25 with a sub 25 BMI

These bastards force their own people to apologize to blacks at gunpoint, they deserve every bad thing that happens to them. Commie bastards.

So they love to see that but with gringoys it's a lose lose match not they have the factories and outlet deals, US had the thing.

consumption power

lol

You don't even understand the triffin dilemma or how trade deficits cycle dollars back into the stock market of the US causing financial bubbles

The US had 3 instances where they bailed out their finance sector and each time it got weaker
2008
2014
2020

you are not a smart person
there is no such thing as "financial power" only a more fragile system with exponential leverage until the central bank can't print money to kick the can down the road anymore

I genuinely can't understand your post
I speak Spanish, just type in that, it'll be more fluid

poor china trump is a MONSTER

Yes Yes you are right. Wish you have a good weekend. America will be fine and you are already a winner for being born as an American like Buffett said in his latest shareholders meeting.

I am heading toward the massage house. Love from Thailand.

t. Chang

don't get chlamydia

America will be fine

America is most definitely not fine and the political instability will only grow from here.
If there were good leaders it would be different but it's too late now.

they have a deep cultural fear of "getting involved", even taking on the responsibility of informing someone else of the situation is something they are adverse to.
some say it's a general lack of empathy, others say it's a fear of being held responsible for the situation (or not doing enough to help), but whatever the reason they do anything other than take initiative.

They have insane laws in their country that basically if someone helps or touches someone struggling they can be sued and held responsible just for helping. It happens all the time and because Chinse are jews any family member of the victim will just sue anyone helping for money. Thats the way the law works there.

So USAID doesn't fund these videos? What does then?

It's falun gong and they get paid through the state department.
I don't care honestly if most americans have the impression that every building is a tofu dreg and there's holes and chinks are getting crushed to death every second that's to China's advantage, because when China's missiles blow up france's most expensive jet it leaves them in a state of confusion.
So I don't are about falun gong think they are a funny group.

Ahh hello intelligence gathererer

there's no intelligence on Anon Babble beside me of course
it's all retards. 40% indians.
But I am having a fun time spamming redeem memes in the indian paki threads

They didn't lift themselves out of poverty, we fed them our lifeblood to do it and they tell their people, teach their children, the USA is their enemy. Things are just returning to the natural state. China will experience famine again and their population will decline. Their current state is unnatural for them as a race.

(((who))) do you think?

And all because Xi wouldn’t say thank you.

reee the ones who murdered and disappeared thousands of people for protesting communist corruption are the real good guys!

anything bad that happens in china is not the party's fault, because they don't have absolute control over our lives, it's that damn falun gong and CIA causing all the trouble in china!

Chink propaganda is the least convincing and ham-fisted nonsense. It's cartoonishly bad.

we fed them our lifeblood to do it

no you dumped all the toxic manufacturing there and now you're acting like this was a gift of charity

to the westoid in his information bubble the CCP is simultaneously the greatest threat to US dominance and also a corrupt incompetent regime that can never get anything done right
yawn

I bet you think putin is a horrible evil dictator too
in fact only the west is good! totally good even though you dropped 8 million tons on vietnam when the leader of vietnam referenced "All men are born equal; the Creator has given us inviolable rights: life, liberty, and happiness!" in his speech to the US

you are brainwashed

Chinas economy is basically built on slave labor

Ftfy

Imagine the champion of workers rights government pimping your entire nations workforce out to corporate oligarchs and you cant even buy the shit you make

You know what's cartoonishly bad propoganda?
They found a passport to the hijacker the day after the plane hit the two towers imagine that

fucking retard goycattle think's he's on my level

America always puffs up their enemies egos while presenting ourselves as weak and incompetent
Its actually pretty effective diplomacy

LMAO their GDP just grew 5.4% and their exports grew 8.1%.

Tariffs slowed down the growth a bit but they are still raping USA.

China needs to be exterminated already. Mao didn't kill enough. The Yellow Peril is real.

okay chang

presenting ourselves as weak and incompetent

Doing a pretty good job losing two jets to the houthis wasting 3 billion in ammunition and not accomplishing anything
The fucking THAAD system didn't work either haha.

No amount of propaganda can fix any of this

The USA will do anything but invest in education.
They will spend 50 billion in propaganda to brainwash their own people but they won't spend it in engineering or education.