Why are atheists so cringe?

weird representation. You have enough cringe lords of any community where people are obsessed over something.

There's nothing sad about it. It's especially based when you can kill people and send them into the void

because theyre some of the most religious people while claiming not to be.

I just lack belief in God or gods

Catholics aren't Christian. They worship the Pope, not Christ.

Because they let troons in.

Why are atheist cringe

Because they can make no moral claims. Their only defense against evil is name calling. They want to carry over all the moral innovations of Christianity without doing the philosophical footwork of justifying why anyone should care about being immoral. Any moral claim they make is just a difference of opinion with no real weight. Rape, murder, theft and all the rest are just a matter of how public sentiment and how much force is backing an opinion.

Right.

You are all a bunch of groomed and conditioned suckers.

source: the voices

Because they can make no moral claims

Why not?

Any moral claim they make is just a difference of opinion with no real weight

Genuine empathy has a lot of real weight

Rape, murder, theft and all the rest are just a matter of how public sentiment

Yes and individual sentiment. Rape,.murder and theft are antithetical to me wanting to live as peaceful as possible with those around me

morality comes from "god"

Morals long preceded organized religions by tens of thousands of years.
All your purpose and morality comes from within you, if you're not an NPC who sold off these faculties to a bunch of Middle-Eastern merchants.
All human morals are established by other humans, including the ones in your bible. The ones I follow just don't have the Jewish fairy tale aspect to it.
Even animals have certain morals that allow them to survive and cooperate in a group, e.g. helping each other when in danger and sharing food.
If you claim that morality (i.e. objectively good behavior) comes from your "god", then here's how you prove it:
1. Prove your "god" exists
2. Prove your "god" is benevolent enough to follow his moral code, and
3. Prove your "god" is the author of said moral code, not the men who actually wrote them.
Don't worry, you'll never get past step 1.

that is a belief in of itself. youre religious.
if you were truly based youd be agnostic. but youre a faggot atheist.
worst part is you dont even understand this, thats what makes you an insufferable faggot

Sorry, Christcuckery is officially dead.
One smug Atheist ruined Juden Peterstein's entire career.

i dont have to prove shit to you vpnfaggot.
1. go kill yourself
2. tell me if god exists or not
dont worry, youll never get past step 1.

that is a belief in of itself

Lack of belief. Which can change to belief if I'm convinced enough.

if you were truly based youd be agnostic

I'm super based as an agnostic atheist

worst part is you dont even understand this, thats what makes you an insufferable faggot

I understand more than you can comprehend

in order to be religious you have a sum of the three qualities pass over a certain threshold:
- high emotion normalfaggot
- two digit IQ
- made poor choices in life and ended up alone (or afraid to make choices and get shunned)
normies are generally helped by education and government safety nets, so they need less and less religion, which explains the exodus from organized religion over the years

genuine empathy has real weight

To you personally. Now universalize that. What if I have selective empathy? What if I don't empathise with every single human on the planet?

Crime are antithetical to me

Well not to me. Now give me your money.

your lack of belief is a belief. youre a spec of dust larping as intelligent. who are you to claim that nothing exists outside of the scope of what your tiny brain can comprehend? for you to claim youre able to do so is religious thinking. you have faith that you are able to understand the universe sufficiently to say there is no god.

Atheists and Abrahamics are all the same.

>genuine empathy has real weight

To you personally

Incorrect. Because it requires me to genuinely understand another's suffering to understand them and help them. I've seen this first hand taking public transportation for most of my young life and working in customer service

Now universalize that

Done.

What if I have selective empathy? What if I don't empathise with every single human on the planet?

Then you won't be able to genuinely understand others

>Crime are antithetical to me

Well not to me.

Luckily I'm not talking about your lack if morals

your lack of belief is a belief

Incorrect. I've already explained this
Can you explain why it is? No?

who are you to claim that nothing exists outside of the scope of what your tiny brain can comprehend?

I never said this. Try less strawman man in your next reply

gay asf nigger

Prove that God exist

Well science says that it is more probable that God exist then he doesn't exist. I would argue that the atheist are the ones being unscientific. If simulation theory is more probable than not then that means the universe was intelligently designed and because a simulation doesn't have to follow real life physics or rules then science itself would be incapable of proving the existence of God using the scientific method or reason. It also means that the capability of the one who designed the simulation could be very different from our own.

Prove God is benevolent

I would argue that all the work he did to establish morality and time he spent trying to teach people who wouldn't listen is a perfect show of his benevolence that or the fact that he allows people to sin without smiting them instantly.

Prove that God is the author of the moral code

The men who wrote it down said their source was God. Why should I believe scientist actually did the experiments they claimed to have done if we are going to be the ultra sceptical types who won't believe the words of our fellow man?

At least we don't worship a Jew. Can't think of anything as cringe as that.

science says that it is more probable that God exist then he doesn't exist

No lol

Well written retort

"nnnno..."

I accept your concession.

Allah is great and islam is true religion

I never said this.

claiming to be atheist is the embodiment of that phrase. atheists claim there is no god. god is a concept that is beyond the capabilities of comprehension that our brains allow. to claim that there is no god, definitively, you must also believe that it is impossible for that kind of entity to exist in the first place. you can only claim it is impossible with confidence, if you believe you can understand a concept that is beyond your comprehension, and claim it does not exist.
for the religiously skeptical mind, atheism is hubris. agnosticism is maturity.

Then how do you explain mental illnesses?

What am I conceding to exactly?

claiming to be atheist is the embodiment of that phrase

No, that's your strawman. I even told you earlier

Which can change to belief if I'm convinced enough.

Which goes against your strawman but you still made it anyway?

who are you to claim that nothing exists outside of the scope of what your tiny brain can comprehend?

I never claimed this, considering that I'm open to evidence

Why are you people so fucking retarded? Lol

Well science says that it is more probable that God exist then he doesn't exist.

There is a possibility, of course, but until there is solid evidence, it's nothing more than a theory to be discarded at any moment.
Religioniggers, however, claim it is a stone-cold fact and are prepared to attack you if you believe otherwise - this is the key difference.
You failed at step 1.

refuses to read anything i wrote

youre a kike or a nigger and not worth anyones time.

>refuses to read anything i wrote

Yeah why do you do that?

Need empathy to understand them

No you just need to have sympathy or just be able to deduce why they are behaving a certain way. If someone is attending their loved ones funeral, I don't need to be sad to understand that they personally are sad.

universalization is as easy as saying done

Its not though. Just because you personally can feel empathy for every single person on earth doesn't mean everyone else does and claiming that it does just means you lack a strong theory of mind.

You won't be able to understand others

And you won't be able to make any moral claims against me. The only claim you'll have on me is that you have more force backing your position then mine. Which isn't a moral claim.

Luckily

Well its not lucky because if more people move to your belief system they'll come to believe that power is all that matters which makes society worse on net.

What am I conceding

The argument. Saying no is not a response. You have to actually justify why the argument is wrong. If you don't that's just a concession.

you MUST be made into a sheep and follow the orders

If this isn't self explanatory I don't know what is.
Also when will retards who believe magical bearded man on the cloud in the sky understand that not believing in x doesn't automatically make you believe in y. It's that simple.

Our feelings are a random collection of something, even if you introduce a soul, you have just replaced chemicals with magic.

There is no evidence

There are first hand accounts of peoples experience with God. Also many of the accounts in the bible have archeological evidence associated with the stories. There is often less evidence for things that we claim as historical fact in history books. The only reason that we are unwilling to make stronger claims about it is because it is religion so we hold it to a higher standard then other historical accounts. I'll ask you this, what would you accept as evidence of God besides God himself appearing and revealing himself to you?

No you just need to have sympathy

Absolutely not. Look up the difference between the two and then understand sympathy lacks genuine connection.

If someone is attending their loved ones funeral, I don't need to be sad to understand that they personally are sad.

There's a difference between understand and connecting. I can understand what it means to be hungry but I would need to genuinely connect with someone to want to feed them.

>universalization is as easy as saying done

Its not though

Sympathy is not enough. Empathy is what picks up where sympathy fails.

And you won't be able to make any moral claims against me

I dknt know what you mean by this. Why would I want to be against you? If we both agree that rape, murder and theft are bad/evil then what matters where we get it from?

>What am I conceding

The argument.

What argument?

Saying no is not a response

And you just making a claim doesn't make it true. Lol

There are first hand accounts of peoples experience with God

You mean their subjective interpretation of what they think "God" is. Why should anyone believe them?

there's something else other than the matter

There's no reason to believe such a claim. Prove it.
Why would anyone who accepts reality like it is kill himself? Is that what you would do if you dropped your larp? Why?
Depends on what you mean by "random" but sure. It's a multidimensional interaction of physical processes that we can't understand fully. Why not?

There are first hand accounts of peoples experience with God.

Sure, same as aliens.

what would you accept as evidence of God besides God himself appearing and revealing himself to you?

Nothing. Same as as with said aliens.

Sympathy lacks genuine connections

And? You said you needed empathy to understand them. I don't need to connect with someone to understand them.

difference between

A difference that matters little in the context of this conversation.

Why would I want to make claims against you

What if I didn't agree those things were wrong? The only thing an atheist can say against those acts is that it is against their personal preference.

The grand problem with your world view is it requires everyone to have empathy for everyone else. If people don't then your entire system falls apart. In some sense it presupposes morality. If I don't empathies with everyone then the people I don't empathies with are non moral entities that I can do anything to. Your judgement against me for treating them like that is simply a matter of preference. It doesn't have weight besides the amount of violence you bring to the table to stop me. I would argue that's a poor mans moral system because it depends on moral consensus with no hard boundaries. This means your moral system is weak to entropy. God and religion provide an unmovable standard. While group morality is subject to drift.

I don't need to

Yeah man. I'm telling how I derive morality. I don't need you to agree or disagree with it because that's not the discussion

What if I didn't agree those things were wrong?

Doesn't matter to me.

The only thing an atheist can say against those acts is that it is against their personal preference.

As they are yours lol

The grand problem with your world view is it requires everyone to have empathy for everyone else

Wrong. It requires just me to have empathy. I can't control others but I can control how I act with others and I find it better if I treat others how I want to be treated. It's really that simple

Same as aliens

And science would also argue that it more likely than not that we are not alone in the universe. I don't see how this disproves anything?

The only way to prove God is for God to appear before me

Then why not apply this standard to everything else. When science makes a claim about something you don't say that they have to demonstrate the claim before you to believe it do you?

When science makes a claim about something you don't say that they have to demonstrate the claim before you to believe it do you?

Depends on the claim and the amount of convincing evidence they have. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

Nothing is extraordinary, just check greeks problems with zero. From a different perspective God is The Answer to problems, this is why greeks dumped their old gods, even atheism and became christians.

And science would also argue

They also "argue" that getting "vaxxed" is safe and effective.
"X argues" is a theory at best and some claim made by a "scientific authority" is never to be taken as dogma. I'm sure this is an extremely hard concept to grasp for your kind.

When science makes a claim about something you don't say that they have to demonstrate the claim before you to believe it do you?

Of course.

Me I me I

That's not how you justify a general moral system. You're just some random guy to me. There is no reason to treat you as some moral authority. Your moral system is equal to the guy who flips a coin to decide if he should shoot someone. He can write a whole paragraph about how he makes the coin have a fair 50/50 odds that doesn't make his moral system legitimate.

it doesn't matter if you don't agree with my morality

Until I gain a consensus and force you to live by my code. Then it'll matter to you a lot more, but you'll have no real argument for why society should listen to your views.

Religious claims about morality are the same as atheistic claims on morality

No cause I am not saying it is merely my preference about whether someone does something immoral or not. The morality is Gods morality ergo there is no room for debate. The consequence of ignoring it is eternal suffering. As God has the final say of physical reality he also bears final say on morality. That's a higher claim than preference.

Of course

So your saying that if a nutritionist said that fruits were healthy you would demand that he gather a control group and an experimental group in front of you and rerun his experiment over a course of months for you to believe the result that fruit was healthy?

Not necessarily. I can see fruits being healthy with empirical evidence. I can even test it out myself and see the results.
And some fruits aren't as healthy, i.e. consuming star fruit has adverse effects if you have weak kidneys, so I would absolutely check up on a claim that some weird exotic fruit is healthy.
You can't do the same with your "god" aside from blindly believing in it.

That's not how you justify a general moral system

I did justify it

There is no reason to treat you as some moral authority.

Never asked you. All you're doing is demonstrating how morality is subjective.

Thanks :^)

Until I gain a consensus and force you to live by my code.

You don't really seem to have one different from mine. Just a different avenue

From a different perspective God is The Answer to problems,

And you're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions

I can see fruits being healthy with empirical evidence

But what is empirical evidence to you. In some sense it doesn't exist. You weren't there for the experiment. The scientist could be lying about the test. He could fudge the numbers. Yet when you look at a study you don't hold it to that standard. You believe that the scientist did his homework and did the experiment properly and was honest about his results, yet when it comes to religion you don't apply this same standard. A person will testify a first hand account and you'll immediately assume malice or delusion. Why do some people arbitrarily get infinite scepticism while others don't?

It's another "Christcucks reveal themselves to be niggers who would rape and murder if they didn't have their skydaddy telling them no" thread

You niggers are a horrible look for Christianity.

I can eat the fruit and see if the theory that it's healthy holds.
This is the point of peer reviews. If an experiment isn't reproducible, it's likely bullshit.
Again, you can't do the same with religion.

You agree with me

The problem is what if I didn't. What if I thought rape and murder was moral and was able to gain societal consensus. Your only argument against that would be a matter of preference.

It's a long story

my subjective interpretation of "God" is objective

right... you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel good buddy

You can't do this with religion

Because doing it with religion is ridiculous if you think about it

I know bill exist because I went to the store and saw bill

"Well I went to the same store and didn't see bill ergo bill doesn't actually exist".

The problem is what if I didn't

It's irrelevant. There's simply nothing you can do to change my morals nor how i get and understand them.

Your only argument against that would be a matter of preference

Same for you too. And it turns out we have the same preference lol

You can set up a camera in the store or just wait near the entrance to check if Bill exists.
If Bill does exist, he'll show up eventually.
So far there's been no evidence of Bill existing for thousands of years.
If there's no concrete evidence and only wild unreliable anecdotes, there's no reason to be attached to the belief.
It's like with Santa - you believe he exists until you realize it's just your parents buying you gifts. True humans grow out of things like this.

If bill exist he'll show up eventually

But you didn't predict that Bill moved or thought that things were over priced in that store and now you believe he doesn't exist because you have been watching a store he no longer frequents.

No evidence for thousands of years

We have had plenty of evidence just none that you would accept. Again unless you had a photo or video of God you wouldn't believe he existed. The camera hasn't existed for thousands of years.

kike worshippers

lmfaoo

Belief in a god is predicated on faith as opposed to reason.
Nothing more cringe than someone saying they believe in a god because they have evidence. You can't have evidence by definition... Get real

And nobody knew what electricity truly was until extensive research was done in the 17th century.
Theory became fact with reproducible results.
If new technology can prove the existence of "god", cool. But until then it's just a theory, and definitely not one you violently shove down everyone's throats.

Tons or accounts of God and archeological evidence for events occurring in the Bible is not evidence

Lol.

Theory

Sure, but I would argue this is more a failing on science. Science can only prove consistent phenomena in this limitation science inherently assumes that we live in a consistent universe. It could be very well possible that we don't and that we are forcing observable fact to fit into a paradigm it doesn't conform to.

observable fact

Observable facts are simply phenomenon we observe, theory is our explanation for why the phenomenon occurred.

There's tons of accounts of qanon in the archeological record. This counts as evidence for qanon

t. you in the year 2500

Most natural occurrences like lightnings, floods, etc. were "acts of god" before being explained by scientific research.
Do you still believe Poseidon or whatever the fuck causes floods?
As gaps in our knowledge become more narrow, there becomes less and less need to explain everything with "god did it", unless some concrete evidence of "god" existing can be produced.
And again, until then it's just some bullshit theory, and billions of "people" blindly believing in it doesn't make it true.

t. You in the year 2500

I think you mean me now. Did Qanon just spring from the ether or do you think that maybe possibly a person was making those post? Those post were probably archived so we have plenty of evidence he was probably a real person.

So your standard for "evidence" is that someone said something. I guess quetzalcoatl is real and freya is real. The evidence is overwhelming.

Do you believe that Poseidon causes floods

No I believe that God does. The universe has a certain level of arbitrariness that science will never be able to explain

Why does matter and wave care about action and why does it want to minimize it

Why does an object continue to move unless acted upon by another force.

These are simply axioms we must accept without reason. The problem with atheist is that they believe understanding God's mechanisms disproves his existence.

standard for evidence

OK then how did those post come into existence? Remember this is before LLM and good AI existed. Dir a magic ghost write those post or did a person? Clearly if you are being honest you must admit that a person wrote it. That person referred to themselves as Qanon. Now was he everything he claimed to be? Probably not. Did he exist, yes.

These are simply axioms we must accept without reason.

No, and a sky wizard is most definitely not one of them.

no

Explain to me why the universe gives a shit about minimizing action?

Since your standard for evidence is insanely low then you have no reason to dismiss random gods and you have to admit that there is "evidence" for their existence.
The chaos god Kek is real because there's plenty of "evidence" for it in 4plebs. This is the consequence of your worldview.
Meanwhile for those of us living in reality we demand a higher standard for something to be considered evidence.

theists like to mention a "christian moral" as some virtue that saves nations, but can you point at any country at any time in history that followed the christian moral by word and lived in peace and harmony? because i don't know of any of such countries.

what's the point of citing "moral" if it doesn't work in practice, never worked and will never work in future?

you're welcome to leave america, the uk and any other creation of anglo exceptionalism and colonialism whenever you want, you brown faggot

Living in reality

Its not my fault your counter example was terrible. Your counter requires believing a post spontaneous came into existence with no source. How am I the crazy one for saying that someone wrote it?

No reason to dismiss random God

Yeah the bible tells us they are demons not to be trusted.

Higher standard of evidence

Well that demand is only ever applier to religion and nothing else. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. If this was a court of law it would be admissible. Archeological evidence is also admissible. The problem atheist have is that they treat God like a consist natural phenomena instead of as a sentient being. Why would you assume that you could reliably reproduce meeting someone? People can have different schedules or just be avoiding you.

the concepts are not silly, YOU do not understand them because you are both ignorant and lacking in the sensory capacity to perceive them. human sense perception can't perceive the vast majority of the electromagnetic spectrum, and yet it's there and we know it exists. atheist arguments always boil down to this dimwitted, "well we can't see it, so how do we KNOW it's real? what's it made of? how can it be real if we can't SEE it?" you are mentally a child. your first mistake is assuming that everything can be measured in the form of matter and the physical laws that govern this world, your second mistake is thinking you have a fucking clue about anything by operating via your first faulty premise for absolutely everything else you try to understand about life, consciousness and human thought.

Why do people think that we atheists support faggots and other degenerates? We dont
Actually, scientifically best thing to do is to get rid of unnatural and illogical things like faggotry and religion

Because to atheists. 1+1=11

I'm the Son of God, and I'm here to tell you that you're pretty much all doing it wrong, and the Kali Yuga ends very soon.

Tell me why 1+1=11.

You lost big-time neckbeard get over it.

It makes more sense for you to kill yourself to enter heaven. And don't start with the suicide bs, just take slow poison and go to confession before you enter heaven

bong faggot with the smug redditor take

yes, it's very much like the british to be this retarded because you are the people most divorced from your humanity. everything to these british niggers is atoms and chemicals and energy and hormones and things like philosophy or metaphysics are "magic." british women are competing to see which of them can be the first to fuck 10,000 dudes in a day, that's how lost this country is, full of people like you who deconstruct everything down to "well it's just a series of atoms and chemicals operating randomly, nothing special about it." we have fully earned the title/epithet of anglojew, all bongs are spiritual kikes. go read your pseudo intellectual atheist book by that oxford hack and shut the fuck up retard.

I'm an atheist, and as an atheist i believe in common sense. My common sense tells me to hate fags, cultists and niggers.
my atheism isn't same as yours, don't like it go pray, see if that does fuckall to you nigger

The real answer is that it's because they are usually converts to atheism who come from a religious background with which they've had negative experiences. This causes them to lash out in obnoxious ways. As a person from a largely atheist country the only atheist I've met who fit the archetype of the reddit atheist was a guy from a christian family who hated christianity. Most people who are born and raised atheist are just normal people who think religion is fake and dumb but aren't particularly invested in destroying it.

Common sense judt make you a commoner. Being a Truth seeker turn me into a King.

Might makes Right. Power is Absolute. Atheists are all retarded.

Moral innovations like pathological guilt, self hatred and punishment

begone heathen

No, that's bullshit of the highest degree. I don't care how many wars you've won, how many churches you have, how much money you have, if the message is wrong then it's wrong.
Here's my message for you all: YOURE ALL CHILDREN OF GOD, LIKE ME. THE FATHER IS IN ME AS HE IS IN YOU. FIND HIM.
Goodbye.

Absolutely based

And I'm the lover of God.

Shayytaanists are still Abrahamics, and you worship the same foreskin demon

Allah is great but denounce the nonce prophet

How can you be a pagan and deny the existence of the BEST? All roads lead to Monotheism.

The Almighty One aboves All.

the bible tells us

That's not considered "evidence" by anyone serious about the world. Harry Potter books are not "evidence" of witches.

Anecdotal evidence is evidence.

Personal accounts are barely considered "evidence" and insufficient to convict someone. You're really just stretching what the word means to win some semantic argument but that's not what anyone means when they use the word evidence. For the topic at hand you need something greater than that.
Your standard for "evidence" sucks and it leads to a retarded worldview where you basically take anything anyone shoots at you as a fact.
The highest form of evidence are controlled experiments that test specific hypotheses under reproducible conditions. I'm not even asking for that. Just to use some basic logic.

The best in what? Where does your obsession with monotheism come from?

The highest form of evidence is Authority. There is no Rulers that can stand at the top by denying God.

The best in Battle.

Consciousness isn't even tied to matter in the first place.

got any evidence for that claim, champ?
got any way to explain the apparently obvious causal link between brains and consciousness we regularly observe (brain damage, drugs, sleep, death etc.)?

"well we can't see it, so how do we KNOW it's real? what's it made of? how can it be real if we can't SEE it?"

pretty cool strawman; the actual line of thinking goes as follows:

"Well, there doesn't appear to be any good evidence for ghosts or spirits, or god, or karma, or remote viewing, or telekinesis, or telepathy, or magic - so I'm not really convinced ay; that doesn't mean I'm right, but plenty of people are convinced of many things for fucking retarded reasons, every day."

You're welcome.

God

Which one?

The strongest One.

The wahyaguru?

your first mistake is assuming that everything can be measured in the form of matter and the physical laws that govern this world

Tell me, how did you measure something NOT made of matter/energy? How did you use IMMATERIAL measuring techniques that are unbound by the natural laws of the universe?

I'll wait.

If you didn't, and no one else has, you have no good reason to come to conclusions based on this wild unbased speculation, no?

most crosscucks are niggers tho

t.

What's your name you go down in history books with mr king, what area do you govern? show on map please
if it's some shitskin country i honestly can't give a fuck

I'm Michael.

Atheists literally think that all our feelings are just random collectio of chemicals rapidly firing.

Pretty much - this is what the evidence suggests, nigger.

they (atheists) can make no moral claims.

I absolutely can, you would even agree with most of them - we just different methods of reaching them (your method is for retarded brainwashed niggers).

your lack of belief is a belief

Lmao
Your lack of hair is hair.
Your lack of a good grasp on reality is a good grasp on reality, lmaoooo

I also observed this when engaging with this aetheist shill. Just a waste of time. No wonder some places reserve capital punishment for aethism. Lazy, demoralizing, uncreative, leeching pseudintellectual midwits

The number of people around the world dealing with mental disorders has increased drastically in direct correlation with the shift to a more secular way of helping the mentally deranged. From prescribing spiritual solutions to the mentally ill to prescribing psychiatric medication to the mentally ill. Psychiatric medications mind control people into ignoring their spiritual problems and coexisting with their demons. They become numb to it. Most people who are dealing with any of the common psychiatric disorders that we know of, depression, schizophrenia, bipolar, personality disorders, etc are actually dealing with some sort of deep rooted spiritual trauma and demonization. The world becomes more sick as more people turn from God the Bible is right about that

Lol, lmao

I dont generally think that your statement applies, atheist is the default mode of a human, all humans are born atheist, so of course there will be cringe ones if you cherry pick, thats like saying all christians are cringe just because I Jordan Peterson is cringe...

I've hurt this anon feelings before hahaha

Most atheists hold belief system that's similar to religion, that's why they are so fucking cringe.

Most atheists hold belief system that's similar to religion

Such as?

This anon gets it

It's a cringe religion pushed by the kikes. See Marxism.

Peterstein

Christian

Whatever they are programmed to believe, they act like cult.
most atheists now believe that:
eugenics doesn't work, IQ and character traits are not inheritable, "socioeconomic factors" are everything, religion is bad (guess it's just lack of history knowledge), trannies are actually women, women are equal to men, but the biggest offence is that they believe the government just like religious zealot believes the cult leader.

Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not

make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any
thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth
beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

Whatever they are programmed to believe

Atheism is a disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods. That's it

eugenics doesn't work, IQ and character traits are not inheritable, "socioeconomic factors" are everything, religion is bad (guess it's just lack of history knowledge), trannies are actually women, women are equal to men, but the biggest offence is that they believe the government just like religious zealot believes the cult leader.

None of this has anything to do with atheism.

BUT

That also doesn't mean you're not describing this generation of atheists who are really just woke globalhomo activists. They aren't atheist due their own reasons but because it's the woke group think.

Although that's shifting to Christianity via liberation doctrine

Like a son who rejects his father, a Christian who rejects Christ is fated to be troubled.

liberation doctrine

Liberation theology rather

eugenics doesn't work

It does work
IQ and character traits are not inheritable
Iq is heritable, character traits not really
"socioeconomic factors" are everything
Not true
religion is bad (guess it's just lack of history knowledge)
Religion is bad
trannies are actually women
Trannies will never be wom women are equal to men
They are not
but the biggest offence is that they believe the government just like religious zealot believes the cult leader.
We dont
You dont know shit about atheists

God does not exist. Your religion is Jewish, and you are a brainlet.

Tell me why 1+1=11

1+1=2
Go back to elementary school

Oh, why is 1+1=2 then?

muh elementary teahcer tell me so

Is that it? Your elementary school teacher is a God? You believe everything he said?

God exists necessarily as per what "God" means. Whatever governs the Cosmos is God. If the Cosmos is self-governing, then the Cosmos is God. To assert that nothing is God is to deny natural law. Also, we lower-case "jewish" here.

a Jewish myth exists

The Cosmos is the Cosmos. Not a religious deity.

Atheism is a disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods. That's it

Lack of trust in god but still acting like illogical religious zealot is what makes it cringe.

You don't believe in god cause it's logical that all of the man made gods are fake and also because you know history. I guess agnostics are closer to the ideal of atheism than most atheists are.

I disregard the opinions of someone who can't use google before he talks shit
nature.com/articles/s41380-018-0263-6

The force of evolution can be akin to a God. You cannot perceived it. Yet. It is there. It is not your wills that govern the development of organisms.

He is risen

Lack of trust in my opinion of god

Ftfy

You don't believe in god cause it's logical that all of the man made gods are fake and also because you know history.

That came later in my atheism but yes, that plays a part

I guess agnostics are closer to the ideal of atheism than most atheists are..

I'm an agnostic atheist see

You will never be a Ruler, so everything you believe will always just be an opinion.

You will never be a Ruler, so everything you believe will always just be an opinion.

Calling atheism a religion expresses a categorical misunderstanding of the word "religion". Religions can be theistic or atheistic. The largest atheistic religion is Marxism, but the religion that this image is alluding to is Wokeism (so-called Cultural Marxism) which takes after Marxism but isn't itself Marxist, any more than Islamism or Mormonism are Christian. The Post-Christian landscape includes at least four different religions if you account for Aryanism and Americanism. Lastly, "Victim Morality" is Slave Morality, and Inevitable Evolution is false for the simple reason that Devolution occurs too.

Feel free to prove me wrong by becoming a president of something.

Neither is God a jewish myth, nor is "God" a Semitic word.

You do realize pic related is 99.9% of "religion" these days? It's over bro.

Exodus is a fake fairy tale written after Babylonian captivity

Good post

I always think of making Evangelism thread but I know it will die with no replies since Anon Babble is full of bots and retards now.
And that's sad since this is one of the worst diseases that humans have faced.

That "Muslim" looks like a Christian

Because they're retards that deny atheism is properly defined in philosophy as a belief God does not exist. That's why they cannot explain the difference between an agnostic and an atheist without contradicting themselves.

Most of them aren't, but when someone attacks your belief system, even in a nice way, it really hurts your feelings, so it's easier to dismiss them based on the edgy ones back from the time when everyone was edgy.

Jew worship is retarded nonsense, so it was inevitable people were going to turn away from it. Maybe we should create a less retarded religion.

The God you are referring to is Jewish.

There is no such thing as an agnostic. Theism/Atheism is binary. You believe in god or you don't.

Why are majority of priest pedophiles or weird incels that can't get laid?

You believe in aliens or you don't? No "we don't know"?

bring me your firstborn

patheos.com/blogs/atheology/2015/11/the-legacy-of-child-sacrifice-in-early-judaism-and-christianity/

The one who created people is a kind of horned serpent/dragon, Capricorn (but this is an early identification in the times of the Sumerians)

not a joke. is there anyone higher than them - is unclear, but people were created by dragons. I will not go into this topic, but I will praise the Chinese, at least they do not hide it.

I don't currently believe in any specific aliens.

what about the ones taking over your country?

The fact that they're so oblivious to how self-damning they are is the saddest part

Nonsense. The jewish demon isn't God.

Because those are the normal positions of the modern world. It has nothing to do with atheism.
You could replace atheism with "white" or "right handed" and make the same point. So what?

Not really, it's a brainlet post that shows a lack of understanding about what morality really is and how it's very simply derived from reality without any need to invoke made up creatures.

"Agnostic" is a term for one that is non committal to both the belief God does exist (theism) and the belief God does not exist (atheism).

Theism/Atheism is binary. You believe in god or you don't.

That isn't the correct binary. The correct binary is :
you believe God exists or you believe God does not exist.
That is the correct binary because a lack of something is not the opposite of something.
For example if you own $1 then the opposite is owing $1 or negative $1
The opposite can't be $0 because then you're claiming $0 is the "opposite" of $1, or $2, or $3 ... etc
Something can't be the opposite of infinite things. That's meaningless.

It's a superfluous term and therefore meaningless. All "agnostic" is doing is a statement on the possiblity of knowledge and saying true knowledge is not attainable by the human mind. The idea that this position would only apply to the discussion of deities is laughable.

atheism had become the rejection of religion and god. Not just "I think there is no god, that's it".
Those atheists exhibit belief system that mimics religion (just with absence of magical god) and this is what makes them annoying.

Agnostic itself is meaningless. You can be an agnostic Atheist, an Agnostic theist. An agnostic believer in elves. But just agnostic is not anything.

The point I see him making is that "The Atheists", in their insistence on Christian morality as coupled with their rejection of the basis of Christian morality, effectively have a Fiat Morality, backed by nothing and subject to the whims of society. Do you disagree with this? If so, then why?

atheism had become the rejection of religion and god. Not just "I think there is no god, that's it".

What's the difference?
I guess you're saying there are retarded people who make it their whole identity but that's true for any group that is anti-something (like anti-fascists or anti-christians) who lack a positive worldview that would allow them to be better defined as an actual group. Atheism by itself doesn't mean much, dont' you see a difference between atheist and anti-theist?

1pbtid

The same can be said about christianity, morality in practice isn't absolute, but evolving and ever-changing. Slavery is a good example.

Morality is contextual, it's dishonest to ask modern western atheists who live in a christianized context to suddenly come up with their own morals out of a vacuum.
The primal emergence of morals comes from simple concepts like strength and weakness. That which makes grug's tribe strong = good, that which makes grug's tribe weak = bad. From then onwards, there is a complex mountain of context that keeps adding layers and layers on top of it. Christianity wasn't created in a vacuum either, it required the human context of its time. Your critique is like saying there would be no Christianity without the whims of jews and the whims of the priest class. So what? Morality is impossible to separate from the context in which we are inserted and it's constantly changing throughout time as new layers get added on top of the mountain.

You have to first support the claim in your argument with evidence.
Your "support" lacks any weight and is preceded by a big "if".

All religious people are living in a fantasy cope because they cannot handle the human condition. Now go back to worshipping a dead jew.

dont' you see a difference between atheist and anti-theist?

My problem is that those terms have merged given the "militant atheism" (not called extreme anti-theism) that happens in the west. I know atheists who don't believe in god and that's all, they don't think about it more that this.

Just like how if you ask someone in America if he is communist and he says yes. You imagine the modern day lefty fag not the commies from 70y ago who would have exterminated those fags in most brutal way. Doesn't even have to be 70y ago, just Real Korea.

Imagine unironically believing some mutilated jew rabbi from 2000 years ago who was born, lived, got sick, ate, shat, pissed, farted and died like all homo sapiens is the omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and omnibenelovent supreme being who created everything. No wonder the jews control you.

your lack of belief is a belief.

It's a superfluous term

Agnostic itself is meaningless

Can neither of you read or are you just bots that skip anything unrelated to your programming?
Agnostic is a meaningful and non superfluous term:

"Agnostic" is a term for one that is non committal to both the belief God does exist (theism) and the belief God does not exist (atheism).

That concept is not encompassed by the word "atheism"

You can be an agnostic Atheist, an Agnostic theist

Wrong. See above.

christians prefer kikes and brown muslims over White atheists

Why am I not surprised

Can you understand the notion of people disagreeing with you or adding to what you're saying?
Agnostic just means without (a-) knowledge (-gnostic). It's a word meant to convey that knowledge is not possible to attain. The idea that this position would be exclusive to the concept of a deity is nonsensical. It's superfluous because it's unnecessary. I don't go around saying I'm agnostic every time I make a claim about the existence of something. I reject this term, it only exists because it's seen as diplomatic and therefore socially acceptable to use.

This anon gets it

Wrong. See above.

Nope see

This anon also gets it

monotheism

jew

is this supposed to be ironic because dawkins just turned christian??

That's Russell Brand.

Agnostic just means without (a-) knowledge (-gnostic).

Words aren't always defined purely by their etymological roots.
"Sophomore" means wise fool from the Greek roots sophos (wise) and moros (fool or moron) but of course that is not how it is used in English.

The idea that this position would be exclusive to the concept of a deity is nonsensical

Who said it was exclusive? It's perfectly acceptable to say you're agnostic towards politics, or used as an answer to the question of being political.

It's superfluous because it's unnecessary.

I proved it's not. It has a precise usage not covered by being atheist or theist. You're in denial.

The reason why people like believe in monotheism is because they are weak of mind and will.
They want one singular master they can bow down for. They want to be control and want others to make them do things.
They don't want to think or take responsibility for their lives and actions, they want instructions.

It's all sheeps.

atheists

they don't exist lol

misunderstanding ghost of mesa kike is still obsessed with me

Stop replying to me

Most people are retarded.

Tell me something new.
All this applies to the general population and not what one specific spook people have internalized.

All people are retarded, and they all have some spook.

still obsessed with me

anonymous

Why are these people so retarded?

It's perfectly acceptable to say you're agnostic towards politics, or used as an answer to the question of being political.

Who does that? Can you quote someone doing that?

It has a precise usage not covered by being atheist or theist

But it also had precise use in both theism and Atheism

I agree. The only supposition I make here is that Christianity isn't absolute and that its morality isn't comprehensive, both of which leave room for Christians to fill the gaps with external morality that is usually derived from their personal and social lives. An example of a faith that Is absolute, and whose morality is more comprehensive, would be Muslimry, whose societies are infamously more stuck in the Middle Ages than any Christian society is.

Agnostic is a meaningful and non superfluous term:

Then says

Words aren't always defined purely by their etymological roots.

Kek. This idiot contradicts himself a lot.

I hate religious LARPers that act like they know anything about things we cannot see. Fucking liars. This board is supposedly "politically incorrect" but still massively the mainstream religions, it's a very sad state of affair

trvke, for some reason you struck me as a christcuck at first

Consciousness isn't even tied to matter in the first place

So why do you wake up in the same body every day?

I do not like you

Take a number anon

Theists and atheists are equally cringe
Two sides of a cringe coin

Desert Larps ftw lmao. Now I'm not saying a god doesn't exist but the retarded flaw filled fairytales that spawned during and before the Roman Empire are nig tier.

atheism is properly defined in philosophy as a belief God does not exist

Which is still a lack of belief

That's why they cannot explain the difference between an agnostic and an atheist

Agnostic means without knowledge, specifically esoteric knowledge. So when you claim your favorite flavor of god is real I lack knowledge of that, I lack belief.

No contradiction at all

It's based until it happens to you or your loved ones

Above homosexual kike is obsessed with me because I caught it blatantly contradicting itself:

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/505058625/#q505071437

Ghost of Mesa ID:GDO96QGm Mon 19 May 2025 05:50:16 No.505071437

>Every child born

Is not an atheist by definition

Correct.

Ghost of Mesa Kike verbatim agreed every child is not an atheist by definition
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/505660296/#q505674547

Ghost of Mesa ID:nTM9eyPA Mon 26 May 2025 20:48:45 No.505674547 Report

>Babies are babies. Their lack of belief in God or gods is an example of atheism being the default position

They lack belief in God or gods. They have zero knowledge of them. So of Gnostic means with knowledge and Agnostic means without knowledge then they are Agnostic atheist

Ghost of Mesa Kike later says babies are agnostic atheists
A direct contradiction
It tries to cope by pretending it misunderstood what it was agreeing to.
The reality is the kike is just a moron and contradicts itself constantly because its definition of atheism is wrong.

Stop replying to me and stop referencing my posts.

*You being too stupid to recognize my posts is not an excuse.

Stop replying to me and stop referencing my posts

No lol.

kek, and these retards will claim it's god or some shit when really they have untreated schizophrenia/psychosis

is obsessed with me

Kek, as this goon creates a copy pasta for me. Searches the archives for me. Keep pictures he thinks are me.

The obsession is clear anon

homosexual kike is obsessed with me and cannot stop replying

Seek help

homosexual kike cannot explain how I made a contradiction

Concession accepted

homosexual kike cannot explain the difference between an agnostic and an atheist

Concession accepted

homosexual kike cannot refute the fact it contradicted itself

Concession accepted

Stop replying to me and stop referencing my posts.
*You being too stupid to recognize my posts is not an excuse.

Stop replying to me and stop referencing my posts

No lol. Watching you crash out is by far the best entertainment

This is the peak mind of a Anon Babble Christian my friends

See

See

The obsessed kike cannot stop replying or referencing my posts or talking about me
It's completely mind broken
Watch it reference this one
It's so pathetic it cannot help itself

Because I defeated it :^)

The correct binary is :

you believe God exists or you believe God does not exist.

Or you lack belief until evidence is provided to change the lack if belief into belief

cannot stop replying or referencing my posts or talking about me

Kek

how does a public forum work?

It's amazing the cognitive dissonance these clowns demonstrate

To be fair to Christians, my previous post could very well be that of a Christian arguing that the relativity and incompleteness of Christianity's morality is a strength, and that Christianity is meant to herd people in the right direction with respect to their free wills, rather than enslave and control people like Muslimry does. But you happen to be right that I don't subscribe to Christianity, or to anything Abrahamic for that matter.

The obsessed kike cannot stop replying or referencing my posts or talking about me

proves me right again

I've got to go
The obsessed mind broken kike will reply or reference me again, probably very soon.

Because I defeated it :^)

This is what a happens to a lot of so-called "Christians" on this board. They get really vindictive after having their views challenged. The above anon has been seething over me for almost 2 years. It's incredible

Go to church you goober. You really need it right now

/thread

They're literal kike shills. Clown religion

They're literal kike shills. Clown religion

It's incredible to watch them break down like a hurt r/edditor see

Stop replying to me and stop referencing my posts

LMAO.