Is race real?

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bombs are more real than race

"IQ don't matter." -- Retards

Based sirs

Not really. Human genetics are this nigh incomprehensible tapestry of genetics going back thousands of generations and over every speck of land on Earth. What we see is merely the surface of a grand ocean of genetic mixing. The Human Genome Project blew the lid off of our genetic heritage and now we must confront that Humanity....Is a Bunch of Horny Fuckers that have been crossbreeding since before the Written Word.

Seriously, we're all mixed breeds. Race is just us trying to make sense of something too big to keep track of.

Yes. None of these individuals exist. These are composites of multiple headshots. Notice how you can intuitively grasp this in an instant. What vast mazes of figures, what laborious calculations it would require to express in the abstract what perception here apprehends at a glance completely and with perfect accuracy. In this sense the race is more real the individual.

Jews are not more intelligent than others.

Nobody’s disputing the 2nd point in the comic. Race is both real and not, depending on how you define real. “Species” is a non-arbitrary taxonomic designation, everything is has a degree or arbitrariness to it. If you plotted all living human beings on a graph according it genetic distance, you’d get clusters of high density here and there. this, we call race. The placement of the line between clusters is kind of arbitrary though since there are no hard boundaries, more like a continuous gradient of density. Also, if you zoom in to each cluster, you might find additional clusters and a network of rivers of low density separating them too. Continue until you reach the individual. But the clusters are real regardless of what you call them.

yes more intelligent than niggers for sure

yeah even though sometimes she can't really tell if someone's white or not
An example of this would be someone like hasan piker
he looks white
so does pokimane

if they were cops and killed black men they would be treated as white people by society

if pokimane did karen shit she would be treated as a white woman

whatever, Karen

Race is both real and not, depending on how you define real.

so I can take your life as well as your stuff and your car?
thanks again, Humpty, but imma just let you fall off that wall

Anon Babble's full of retards. race is pseudoscience

You know what I mean, nigger.

Order Carnivora is a made-up category that arbitrarily encompasses all dog-like and cat-like carnivores. But the species of, like, Felis nigripes (my fav cat) is absolutley a real thing with no blurry boundaries or ambiguity, because it’s a closed system of reproductive compatibility.

I agree with you btw, words mean things and leftists’ tongues ought to be cut out for their rape of language and meaning.

Idk. The early life test works equally well on the Einsteins and von Neumanns of the world as it does on Weimar enthusiasts.

richard lynn's figures

we can clearly see a difference between blacks and whites
how is that pseudo science?

oh wait it's just an online IQ test
lmao

Everything else has a degree of arbitrariness to it*

Such a stupid comic. Nobody gives a shit about Asians having higher IQs than whites, but everyone absolutely does lose their shit about whites having higher IQs than blacks.

If your iq is so high why couldn't you prevent october 7th?

For them reverse racism is ok.

The black-haired one is a literal anime girl.

You know what I mean, nigger.

yes, and I'm proving you wrong
when you decide you can make words mean whatever you want, you don't magically win the argument or bully everyone else into obedience, you just erase rule of law and all the protections that used to keep you alive, so now anyone can just stab you to death whenever they want and redefine it as "self defense"
you're not going to like it when that happens, but that's the hill you chose to die on

Why can’t two Igbo parents have an Irish baby? Take your time

the ashkenazi IQ myth

They literally made it up.

We've had this thread over 9000 times on Anon Babble and no one has EVER been able to give me a credible study comparing "Ashkenazi Jews" to similarly selected racial groups.

They use an n<30 study of an elite jewish private school in NYC. That’s where the 115 number comes from

if you're so smart why does your life suck?
anyway it's assumption bias

I don't understand why people care about the average so much. I'm not trying to suck my own dick (too much), but for someone like me, the "average" has always felt like a faraway abstraction, locked behind unbridgeable communication barriers with even 115 IQ middies. I feel like averages (and therefore race) only really matter to average people. It's all they have to distinguish themselves from the average person of any other demographic -- some gesture to the accomplishments and capabilities of others. That shit doesn't matter at all.

If you can show me a bunch of different people from different so-called socially constructed races, and if I can sort them in groups according to similarity, this very strongly hints that there is basis In reality. Might even be a weird type of proof. I can place Japanese people and African people into their respective continents with 100% accuracy. So there’s definitely something real there, some information that allows better-than-random sorting. There was game recently like geoguessr, but it was with people. You’re supposed to look at a face and guess which nation this person belongs to. That people can score greater than, idk, 1/(#countries) consistently is proof that there is biological truth to race.

I bet my life sucks a lot less than yours. Imagine being so dumb that 500k with infinite weapons can't win against 40k.

The point of words is to communicate an idea and I did so succinctly. Quit being a pedantic asshole.

yes [I understand what you mean], and I’m proving you wrong

Then you did not understand what i meant.

Because the averages of people’s attributes play out on the national/societal level. Japan is not the same as England because the Japanese and the English are different as a whole. Some Japanese would fit in better to the English way of life and vice versa, but the overall country is an amalgamation of the average attributes of each person. This obviously includes way more attributes than intelligence, but it’s a big one.

Did you know that two smart people typically have children who are stupider than either of them? If you're smart enough, you understand why this fact alone makes race a meaningful consideration without me having to elaborate.

because the average says shit about what's going on, even when people try to hide it
so does per capita, in fact there's so many ways to lie with statistics you probably shouldn't play with them until you learn basic math, like the fact 2 × 5 = 10, not 25

Yeah that's the old classic one - the selection bias of a private school compared to the general population.....

Obviously they could easily win if they didn't care at all about the ~5 000 000 non-combatants.

Regression to the mean assumes random mating within the group. If two people purposefully choose one another for their high intellifence they will have intelligent children as that attribute is hereditable.

Yes

Your problem is assuming that intelligence is caused by singular genes instead of a whole collection of them and especially by the interplay between countless genes.

Saying race doesn't exist because there are no clear differences between them is the same fallacy as saying there's only one color in a rainbow since there are no borders between yellow and red for example.

They haven't been caring at all about non combatants...

Genetic explanations of differences in human ability are only permitted if such explanations make the preferred groups look superior. You can argue a genetic basis for the over representation of Africans in elite sprinters, but you can not use a genetic explanation to explain their under representation in cognitively demanding fields. Same is true with men and women. You can argue that women are slightly, on average, smarter than men (1-2pts IIRC), but you must stop right there, and never mention the smaller SD that shows that all the worlds geniuses (and retards) are men.

They'd be dead if that were the case.

No that is not a problem with what I’ve said

I bet my life sucks a lot less than yours.

kek, i just goofed by quoting a line from a song
wasn't even aiming and yet you flinched

race is pseudoscience

Biological race is a scientific fact, you can find someones race through an xray

I know, and that’s not what I’m saying at all,

First of all, magnitude matters. Whether East Asians have an average IQ 2 points above Finns won’t matter as much as a gap of 15+ across a country of 300 million people. Second, as discussed in the thread, there are other attributes at play. Chinks tend to be less honest and more focused on social status than whites people which harms them on a large scale.

if you were being sarcastic, then get used to Poe's Law
otherwise, you were just trying to pretend science is just superstition, and that's just as wrong as pretending superstition is science

You can inherit the gene that made your mom smart, but if you don't also inherit the genes that that are required to express that intelligence, you won't benefit from it. Covariance plays a huge part in the expression of traits.

Is race real?

There are genetic markers for empathy and aggression, an aggresive people will be warlike, low IQ would mean they would be warlike and not advance, add empathy to the mix (that's also genetically marked) and you have a warlike honor bound society.

WE have empathy, WE have the IQ (some of us do anyway) WE built our society our way. Genetics doesn't even cover it, it's our spirit that makes our nations.

Race is real, take niggers for example, you'll find they stamp on people who try to get ahead, clawing at them, that's why they target whites, but whites don't really suffer much from envy, and are happy even cheering them on who excell.

At least that's my take on it.

seriously, we're all mixed breeds

Nope. Maybe you are, but I can trace my genetics on both sides of my family back 100's of years. "Crossbreeding" isn't what we're talking about with races - whites fucking whites isn't crossbreeding. That's kind begetting kind, just as it has been since Genesis.

Now, whites fucking monkeys and making negroes, THAT'S crossbreeding. That's what we're talking about when we say "race".

Okay I see you are making the same mistake so I will repeat myself: when the mating isn’t random, you can have “full coverage” of genes that promote intelligence. When both parents are intelligent, you’re very likely to get a wide smattering of the responsible genes from the parents.

You are getting confused with the “pool of available genes,” which for two intelligent parents, has sufficient coverage to nearly guarantee the children will get enough of them.

Yes, you will most likely be smart, but you probably won't reach the level of your parents. The more exceptional your parents are, the less likely it is. Even if your parents were identical twins, this would still be the case. The genes that were exceptionally successful in your parents would simply not have the same context in your genome. Some genes would still get expressed too much, some too little, some would get repressed, some wouldn't, etc. etc.

I truly fail to see how my original post could possibly be interpreted to be an argument that race/science is superstition.

Here, let me clarify: race is subspecies.

Better?

I’m just saying there aren’t clearly marked borders around race, and it is usually this ambiguity that race-deniers point to to argue that it’s all made-up.

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inb4 2pbtid replying to this

Yup. IIRC the shape of one’s heel can tell you if they’re subsaharan or not.

It is real and there are factors that cause IQ to go up and down, for example white IQ peaked around a century ago, then started to decline, and East Asian IQ peaked in the 90’s with a very slow decline starting since. The only problem with IQ is if someone says they never cared about race, just IQ in that snapshot of time

Jews use their IQ only to destroy.

you are measuring exclusively university students and pretending that they are the average.

Precisely, rhe college educated chinks are cream of the crop. Lesser hundreds of millions can't compare to anyone but groids

And yet the Ashkenazi have far more health problems. Kindly look up Jewish Genetic Diseases.

No no, regression to the mean happens even in selected groupings - take two above average IQ black people (say, IQ 100. Thats above average for blacks), and their offspring is far more likely to be an 85 IQ pavement ape than not.

Intelligence *seems* to be inheritable, partly, but we don't know precisely which genes affect it, and it's likely there's thousands or tens of thousands that affect it. High intelligence is often a freak mutation, random chance, but regression to the mean occurs anyway - MOST people in a specific population are genetically very, very similar to most of the other members of that population. Outlier mutations do occur, but the average changes VERY, VERY slowly... unless you throw in a completely different population, in which case the higher average gets pulled down toward the lower average.

Yes, but current labeling is inadequate to capture the full range of human diversity. For instance, not every African is the same similarity to another. An Algerian and a Nigerian and Congoese may have something in common but not so much. What's needed then is advanced racism to more granularly distill particular racism and subgroups

He doesn't understand what regression to the mean is. He thinks he does, but he keeps trying to bring up exceptions that shows he doesn't even know what a "mean" or average is. I'd save my breath.

That the borders aren't clear does not mean the borders don't exist. We can tell who is White or black by the briefest of observation - who cares that the black guy may be "80% white" when that isn't enough to pass the sniff test.

You KNOW when someone doesn't belong, is not like you or yours. Tribalism is an instinct in humans, way down in the lizard brain section. That's what race really is: "You aren't like us. You don't belong here". Back in the tribal days, foreigners meant disease, war, and death, and that instinct has stuck with us for thousands of years, for good reason I might add.

Dude click my user ID and read my posts and see that we actually agree.

I’ll accept a “Total Nigger Death” as restitution.

IQ is a jewish psyop that intentionally skews results in favour of autistic pattern recognition which jews excel at

I double dog dare you to post your 23 and Me results.
What is Irish? What is Igbo? When is someone no longer Irish and when do they become Igbo?

Or, more relevantly, how black does someone have to be before they're no longer white?

Sometimes abstraction is a way to solve a problem. Statistical physics uses averages to describe the behavior of large systems with many interacting components, like gases or solids, by focusing on the average properties rather than individual particles. This is because it's impossible to know everything about every particle in the system at a given time. Now, you trust the pressurization system of an aircraft even though you don't know anything about individual gas molecules in the cabin, so I don't think it's the method you have a concern about.

but science also says IQ is likely a product of socioeconomic factors, schooling, & education. Its the same reason all IQ averages have increased since they started measuring, as populations get more education their IQ rises. Blacks & hispanics receive less of that on average hence the lower IQ on average. Its not a racial trait.

The maximum is set by one’s genes. Same deal with height. You will never teach calculus to a dog, no matter how much money you throw at the problem.

if that were true, how come most inventions come from white people and why can asians only copy what whites invented?

also whites literally have to deal on the daily with nigger and jew fattigue, niggers and shitskins were probably included into those iq "statistics" and yet we still run laps around asians, so get the fuck out with your nonsense

race is real, in the same way that biology is real.

You're a retarded nigger.

thats true for muscle development too, some can get bigger more defined muscles than others, but everyone can be fit and strong.

sorry i ruined your racist world view, faggot.

No it doesn’t. East Asians have the highest IQs, yes. But the Jew one is just more Jew lies.

I mean... Jews and Asians would be okay neighbors lol its really the niggers, spics and towelheads you got to worry about.

also there is no evidence to suggest who has the highest maximum currently. Again scores are a product of socioeconomic factors, they dont reflect what a races maximum is

he believes jews wouldn't lie about their IQ

Shill or newfag? you decide!

Is race real

The word "race" didn't just appear from somewhere (without it being an observation of humans surroundings in the first place) so you could ask yourself can it be unreal (when there is a word for it)

Same applies to the word "gender" yet we agree it's fake, right?

Science says that first born children generally have higher IQs than other siblings.

Interesting and everyone accepts it.

Now point out the average number of children each race has and ask them to do the math.
Ahhhhh racist!

I don’t think it follows that successive children will tend to have lower IQs. If a mother has 20 kids, spending her reproductive life doing nothing but pumping babies out, are you saying there is a very very high probability the 20th kid is gonna be retarded?

Intrestingly enough we use a compound word for gender (sukupuoli) which is in english (family-half)

The evidence is the average scores of pooulaitons roughly in the same wealth bracket. They’re gonna be expressing a similar % of their max. But really the only requirement is that you are not deprived of food so as to not inhibit brain developement. Just because you can not prove that everyone if functioning at maximum potential, doesn’t mean you can throw away all the data gathered on IQ. Doesn’t mean you’re turning blacks into brown-skinned white skinned whites. I’m sorry, it’s just not happening without a several centuries long eugenics program.

No, but they will always bring down the average.
The average of 1 + .5 is higher than 1 + .5 + .5

Not the same. Not even close. It’s more akin to height, where the best you can do is feed your body all the things it needs so as to not hinder bone growth, but beyond that, there is nothing you can do.

everyone can be fit

I assume the intelligence analogy for this is “everyone can be smart”. So what is smart? Quantify it. Or do you just mean “not a drooling retard?”

There might be something there, idk. But you are not explaining away one whole standard deviation of variance between the white and black averages with “black women have a slightly higher fertility rate”.

The older, aka further past her prime, a women gets the higher the chance that the children become retarded. So, the 20th child is significantly more likely to be retarded than the first one. Doesn't necessarily mean tho that it's less smart than the first if it dodges the retard birth defects.

Well, kikes really don't lol. Sorry to break it to you. Nordics are the smartest human beings on earth.

IQ is only one part of the equation, though still important. Jews have terrible genetics to the point that they essentially must race mix otherwise they die out in a few generations.

but Israel

not Sephardic jews which are just Arabs larping.

you can tell which groups OP likes by their capitalisation

blacks, whites

Hispanics, East Asians, Ashkenazi Jews