The women must be lying

The women must be lying

his cock got smaller
women are telling you they'd rather have the BWC than some roid rage boyfriend with a little wee wee

nooooooo being healthy and physically fit is not what a man should strive for!

women think they can have everyone without putting effort into it just because they have a cunt but if you work out they actually have to put effort into something to get at the same level and women hate puttibg effort into anything

exercise reduces lifespan

In the left photo, his head is in better proportion to his body. His hair looks much better as well. He's also not dressed like a faggot

The right photo has terrible lighting that accentuates his receding hairline. His head looks too big for his tiny frame. Sure he has more muscular definition but women don't really care that much about that if the face and overall vibe aren't good enough.

Is it better to be strong and well built in your adulthood or get extra ~10 years as an old fart?

Left looks healthy and natural
Right looks like a vain freak
It's like when women get extreme lip fillers and bog themselves, other women go yasss while men go "eww wtf". People on both sides like natural beauty.

funny coming from women when thats all they do is talk shit about each other all day everyday

so do heart attack I heard

left family father with a manual labour job
right is a divorced middle aged man with a midlife crisis

I am actually gay and prefer the left photo

his face had a nicer shape before. might be a camera difference tho

Why did he put on the gay shorts for the second pic?

Gym fags are all homosexual. Look at how the men rated him vs women.

So does being a smelly pajeet so RIP you I guess

Now do the same side by side photo, but with a 20 year old girl and the same woman in her 40s.
Women will go apeshit accusing us of lying when all men say that the younger version is more attractive.

Oh man, I’m sure glad this thread is back

It really is hilarious how triggered you faggots get when someone points out the truth. Its the same reason roasties seethe when called used up and trannies when they realize they will never be a woman. Its pure cope and seethe and I love it.

Maybe for Canadian faggots

he's afraid of MILFs

Kill yourself before you turn 30 my man.

Women don't want to be with someone who is in shape because they know they'd be expected to follow suit.

Remember, the average woman is 170lb now. Given their average height, that is very obese.

What does that claim have to do with anything?

How much effort have you put into being more likable?

I agree with women here
going this lean exposes this guy's short stature, because his head looks massive compared to his body. Meanwhile when he was chonky his head looked proportional.

They're not lying, they're just so damn arbitrary you can't even trust them when they're telling the truth. That's why we used to not let them vote.

he had to work at making himself look good for women
women want a man who doesn't have to try

Women don't want to be with someone who is in shape because they know they'd be expected to follow suit.

Canada must be a fun place lmao

The women must be lying

*gasp* You don't say

Ehhhh your body is a plus to them but it's just one thing among many they dig through. Most women don't give a shit if you have a six pack or a dad bod.

I take up my long harpoon and patrol these seas

a seemingly unmovable wide tower of a man

a fucking stick with a huge head

Gee I wonder what will woman find hot! Do people really think right pic is better?

Its called sour grapes

In this case though, the lighting and camera angles just make him look better with the higher bodyfat. If he were wearing a t shirt in the pictures and it was a different angle the result would be different

You’re fucking retarded.

sexually compromised race fetishist calling anyone a liar

only white men listen to women. like, only a white guy would screenshot something roastie #738572 said online and scurry to Anon Babble and post it as if it were credible reliable data
look at what they do, not what they say.

possibility:
left exudes more heterosexual "idgaf" male vibes.

There's something a bit gay about precisely watching what you eat and measuring your portions and taking care of your skin and being vain and all that. Immaculately sculpting your body for aesthetic concerns.

What they mean is the guy on the left comes off as a good minimal sex provider. Neither guy is validating sex worthy.

Women = wear make up to impress other women
Men = work out to impress other men
if you still go to the jewm in anno 2025 you’re brown, it’s that simple

Kill yourself

Yeah that’s part of the idea.
The right is try hard. Women don’t like when men put effort into appearing more attractive they like men who simply are attractive.
Trying to be attractive through effort is considered deceptive and rapey by women.

the females are lying. Of course.
when a female speaks you should understand that the truth is ALWAYS the exact opposite of what she says.
because women are never concerned with what is true but speak only for the purpose of manipulation in an attempt to get what they think they want (females never know what they actually want).

in this case the females are all saying they like the before because literally 75% of females are overweight or obese in the modern day.
and half of the remaining 25% are perpetually afraid that they will join the 75% some day.
this is yet another female subversion attack to undermine masculinity and try to gaslight men into thinking it's ok to be fat (and thus to gaslight men into thinking fat women are hot).
but you KNOW they are absolutely lying and full of shit on this if you had ever been Anon Babble yourself or if you took half a moment to check out porn and porn novels that are popular with females.

end human rights for females
enforce monogamy
empower husbands with the right and the duty to beat their wife if they see fit
end all government handouts especially for single mothers, niggers, and beaners

it's simple, a man succeeds and women see an opportunity to drag him down

You have to run, so push ups, sit ups, maybe pull ups and things but weights are a waste of time.

truth

Weight lifting isn't that bad for lifespan compared to cardio. Basically, what lowers your lifespan is the continually elevated heart rate. Your heart only has a certain number of beats across your lifetime before it starts failing. This is true across every animal species. Longer lived species have hearts that beat slower. If you aren't planning on living long though it doesn't matter much.

At 6'1 I have been the following body types all in my 20.

170 pounds with abs

215 pounds DYEL

235 pounds Strong built, benching 320#

250 pound fatass

And I had the most success with women at the 215 pound mark and not overly muscular. When I was the most gym maxxed and strong I almost exclusively got compliments from other men about it.

lol, they don't even care. This is just a psy-op.

absolute truth

ok, hole

Women are not saying they like a fat body. They are saying they like that particular man.
Women do not think this is a poll about lean vs bulk. Women don’t even know what that means. They literally see this as, this particular man, not all men, not you, not their bf, not me, this one guy, before and after.
Just him.
If you lost weight or if I gained weight women would have very different opinions on us compared to that guy.

what she means by this is that she is not interested in a man who is building himself
she wants a man who already has it all (so she can ride his coat tails)
in other words: she wants a simp who has more to give her

all women are whores

All that work and his hairline receded and made it all worthless.

It’s over for baldies lol

Low fat on a body may show a dedication to fitness but subconsciously it shows a lack of resources to build up energy reserves. There is a limit to this in that there is a point where it conveys an obvious health issue. That is why the dad bod thing is so prevalent. It shows a man that is capable of strength and health while also showing that he has the resources to not worry about caloric intake. Not to mention lean strength just look feminine and gay.

good point

Must explain why fat women are exclusively dating fat guys
oh wait

bingo

Anorexia is not sexually attractive
Plump humans have always been more attractive to humans

The photo on the left genuinely looks better to the female gaze, he has a decent frame and core and it can be seen that he has a decent muscle mass, he's a little soft but he's not fat by any means.
Anon Babble Is full of homosexuals, the ideal body fat percentage for a man is 13% at the lowest 22% at the highest

only a fool pays attention to females' words instead of their actions

LMAO people missing the point that only 1/3 of people were women and actually voted in the poll.
Meaning they found neither attractive. Brutal...

Exercise gives you a lowered resting heart rate the other 165 hours a week.

The right is just a shittier picture, that's it. The angle is worse, the lighting is worse. The lighting makes him look bald.

It's a good picture for seeing an improvement in physique but as a person he looks worse.

Most people can't seem to separate that.

How are all those things related to lying, Anon?

Ideal projection exists from every perspective. Like how women spend a trillion dollars a year on cosmetics to look good for other women. If you pursue what YOU think looks good, then you're going to look good to people who are LIKE YOU. If you want to look good for someone UNLIKE YOU, then you have to learn your audience and pursue an appearance that might not make sense to your own personal aesthetic taste.

Women view this in a similar way that you might see makeup. They want a dude who is jacked but just sits around smoking dope to achieve that. If you go lift heavy rocks to fake your genetic worth it's off putting. The good news is you shouldn't give a shit what whores think

It's the sinking in the face, some people really do look better with some face fat, he looks slightly sick in the second one. I'd be curious to see it posted again with the face cropped out.

No, I think I'll just only date 25-30 year olds forever unless I get one I'm emotionally attached to that I'll keep into old age, thanks :)

Also your neovagina is repulsive.

I agree, except in the case of women who do like muscle (there are some.) You MUST try if you want that look. There are zero (0) men who can get Henry Cavil jacked without really, REALLY trying. You can be gorgeous and have a face like his without trying, and that WILL be all you need, but if you wanna also look big and strong, you're gonna have to try.

215 pound mark and not overly muscular.

At 6'1", that is simply obese. Really? I suspect you actually were very muscular. Would you be willing to post a pic? Understandable if you don't want to.

Are you retarded or just reaching for absolutely any negativity you could possibly find in order to make yourself feel better? His hair looks EXACTLY the same.

It's literally his face
In the left, he's a bit chubby, but not terribly out of shape, but his face looks way better

On the right, he's ripped, but his hairline is receding and his face just looks overall creepier. btw, if you couldn't immediately understand this, it's a sign you've been stewing in online incel propaganda for too long and you should go outside

Left is a braphog, right is not anorexic. You are just a low value turd worlder where all the women look like right from eating beans and slop. That or they aren't anorexic but are dying from literal starvation. And are too sickly to procreate with.

Grim.

the left guy would beat up the right guy

The roastoid is actually telling the truth here, although women do viciously and intentionally target male insecurities in many ways (height, etc)
in this pic the looks weird and too old in the "after" photo

And women are most attracted to big muscular vascular bodybuilders right?
The homosexuals on Anon Babble said so, better start injecting test now, don't worry about going bald, women love bald muscular guys Jason Statham!!

So many delusional people in this thread

*the guy looks

It's possible to get a very low resting heart rate without exercising that much though. It's more a case of "don't be fat".

Left is more daddlier and right is more twinkly. Would let both of them top me though lol UwU

ok, hole

go from looking like a bear to looking like some faggy vegan twink

Women like physically big looking guys because bigger = more intimidating. If you look like a skeleton then it's better to be a shredded skeleton, but if you aren't a skelly then becoming one is a step down.

men projecting standards

literally retarded echo

Don’t be fat, don’t get stressed, and get ample sleep make a big difference.

days later this meme is still being pursued
why?

Those grifters only sell their poison to dysgenic freak retards.

In-between the tug of war of brap hogging and trooning out which way will the scale tilt?

Remember guys this is what women really want. “Just a little bit of muscle”

Because Anon Babble is 95% slide threads.

I love men so much it's unreal.

Because you can't even be honest with yourself to know who you are beyond the surface of your desires at any given moment. You have an idea of what you want, but not any image of it, until it is described to you in a way that's deemed acceptable.

That’s a troll, correct?

This. The dude can get all the muscles but it doesn't matter. He's still BALD.
Cart before the horse

Women have been successful for so long by lying about everything. If they are honest about anything it reveals everything

I agree with all those things though so I'm not lying to myself nor anyone else. That also means you are wrong.
What now?

NTA but I'm 6'2, 215ish right now and I'm somewhat of a dyel. I have a big back, thick neck, and broad shoulders though. When I actually used to lift I used to be 225 with bigger arms and a better body composition. I looked really bad one year when I was like 240, water bloated, actually fat, looked disgusting.

Love from California!

the right photo isn't attractive at all, stupid ass pose. you have to have the same pose in both photos and they need to be attractive shots.

Anyone with a sense of aesthetics would say he looks better on the left. I don't get how you can see it any other way.

considering what a woman "Might think" she wants is a horrible thing to do.

It increases lifespan in most studies done regarding this.

Aerobic exercises reduce resting heart rate well enough to off set the temporary increase during exercise. Anaerobic exercise can elevate it though especially heavy strength training. The consensus still remains that this is overall a beneficial activity. Only pre existing conditions that limit the ability to exercise and steroids would make exercising unhealthy.

Yea his baldness is accentuated on the right

Based self-hating twink

No, you don't get it, I will never compromise myself or who I am for my ideology that requires complete subservience to the states whims which are subject to constant change

Have fun with that.

Correct on all accounts.
See? I'm not lying to myself.
What now?

I'm 46, so let me tell you zoomer faggots what I've learned through the years:

The vast majority of women are deathly insecure about their bodies and their looks. This is due to constant pressure from the media, from each other, from men, whatever. It doesn't matter why, it's just a plain fact of life. A woman who is insecure about her body tends to prefer a man who is a little meatier or chubby here and there. Not fat, but with a little belly that makes her feel better about what she sees as her own fat stomach, even when hers is completely flat or toned. They can relax and rest in the bedroom because they do not feel as though they are fatter than you.

A man who goes to the gym constantly and is always trying to change, tone, shape his body, is not attractive because it piles more pressure on them to be or do the same, only to a higher degree - because they cannot be fatter than their man.

All you have to do is stay relatively normal. Not be a massive fat lard, and not be a weird gym freak with muscles on muscles. That's the secret.

The heart is a muscle, The stronger it, the less pumps to get your blood circulating, therefore a longer lifespan, You're an idiot.

Cavil and big shoulders arms, wide chest and frame. He doesn't need to be so skinny that his six pack shows
His muscle mass is near the limit of what most women will find sexually attractive though, if he were any more muscular he would more unattractive than attractive to most women

Spoke to a woman about this image who actually does prefer the right image and she said that the majority of women don't want their partners being in better shape than they themselves are and hence you get the contemporary artificial desire for the so called "dad bod"

There are zero (0) men who can get Henry Cavil jacked without really, REALLY trying.

sure there are, Andre the Giant for example
simple fact is women have always suffered 100% of the pain and risk of the entire babymaking process, and so throughout pre-Mosaic history the ones who most successfully passed on their genetics were the ones who only took that risk with the men with the absolute best genetic, not trained or developed, attributes
that's why women find it a turn-off if you got jacked by working out, got famous by landing a spaceship on a comet, or became a self-made millionaire
you have to be born into it for it to matter to women, not make it on your own

He looks (looks) taller on the left

But I'm jacked and also smoke dope because you only need to work out an hour a day to reach a 350lb bench.

At 6'1", that is simply obese. Really? I suspect you actually were very muscular. Would you be willing to post a pic? Understandable if you don't want to.

more men being faggots and looking at other mens bodies. further proof that women are not attracted to muscular gymtards and it is a purely gay preoccupation.

Because I wish I was female

Look at the waist. That's really all you need. A good shoulder-waist ratio.
In the after shot, his arms are raised, giving the impression that his shoulders are wider, and his waist has shrunk considerably since the before shot.
There, now you know why women find the after hotter, though it is a weaker man on paper

The underwear vs shorts aesthetic really doesn't help him either. It's like he was trying to look worse in the after pic instead of creating an actual comparison.

Good points. Also like someone else points out, the manipulative nature of women on that type of question especially.

If I was a researcher I would make empirical observations to demonstrate that what woman say they want differs from what they actually choose.

God I wish fat women didn't think like this. My favorite body type is literally people like Lila Lovely but I've only gotten worse with women as I've become fit.

I’m not gay but I do think we should all be naked in the gym like the Greeks, improving your bodies together is a sacred act

That's fine but if women realize you work out they'll immediately find you less attractive. They'll see that as manipulative beta behavior.

Yeah I know it really sucks. I just want to throw around fat milfs on the bed but they're too insecure about muh cute chubby stomach rolls and muh giant ass.

why would anyone ask a woman what she thinks in the first place ?

It's so weird that so many women this mentality, you're supposed to just just be attractive but if you have to do anything like diet or exercise, it's a problem. It's like how many men get nagged to stop going to the gym by their wives? A million. And then in a decade they can't stand how fat, ugly, and lazy their husbands are.

why does he smile like he's being raped?

They fantasize about you being brutally murdered and then the strange conqueror using your blood as lube to fuck her in the ass. You either "man up" and embrace this miserable accident of psychology, or you buy Yu-Gi-Oh cards instead.

I got too healthy and noticed my wife buying more ice cream and making fattier dinners. I don't know how much she really even thought about it, but she likely realized I'd stopped looks-matching her, and/or noticed other women looking.
Fucking weird to see stuff like this from someone that's supposed to be your 'other half'. It's like when she swiped my password for my email and I busted her searching my chats.
Otherwise we have a very happy and loving relationship. But I think if a woman gets it in her head that you're surpassing her 'league', she starts to get nervous.

he looks shorter in the right picture.

Only homosexual men (an mtf trannies) obsess over muscles. Women like fat bastards who actually look like they could throw them through a table. I also theorize that women like an unkempt male body because it signals that he is indifferent to her and they like this because they prefer to be led rather than fawned over

She will respond to this behavior by fucking another guy to elevate her worth, or if she fails at that she will become a lesbian.

They're not lying, they're just answering in a way that suits their needs. A man with a dad bod is perceived as more easily controlled and less threatening. Woman are superficial and stupid, this isn't news.

Men know that the after pic is best because the man found self-disincline and self-respect. Two attributes that are very hard for a woman to undermine.

In this case the women are right. Left is actually better for fighting or defending wife/children because higher body mass, he still has all of the muscle that he does right just uncut. Right could be taken out by your average 250 cheeseburger pounding chud

It's good and healthy to seek the approval of other men without consideration for women at all.

I think this is it. Hard to actually tell but he looks like a fucking midget on the right and could be 6 foot on left.

Some women just want a size discrepancy and will bag a tall fatty. I don’t think it is a substantial amount.

There's also an element that the second picture is the second time they've seen the man and have been asked to analyze it. Much like their husband's, after the immediate novelty wears off they're looking for genetic variety.

Women don't like super low bodyfat% on men. They prefer decently developed muscles with a healthy layer of fat on top of them, like in the earlier picture. In this way they're not unlike men.

A man with a dad bod is perceived as more easily controlled and less threatening

This isn't it. Women get moist, I'm talking sopping wet over fat ugly bastard types for a reason.

The key though is you can't just be a tub of lard, they like strong guys with a little fat specifically. They also like pretty boy twinks with good facial genetics. Women are eugenicists, gymcels don't get this

If you blocked out the man's face in both photos and told the female participants they were different men, the women would very likely rate them the same, or the right as more attractive.

What makes you think women wouldn't find him attractive? He's a completely normal looking guy, there's nothing particularly wrong with him.

Male gaze vs female gaze, y'all don't get it..

The lighting on the left is much more flattering. A different set of pictures would get different responses. A handful conceded that he looked better given this set.

Women are telling the truth, his hairline looks worse after which influenced their polling.

Dumbasses, correlation is not causation. All form of working out improves health and improved health increases lifespan, age-related death is caused SOLEY by DNA degradation of which exercise counteracts a bit. No limited heartbeat or organ bs, cells reproduce and the cap is the error rate across replication of which exercise is one factor which reduces the error rate.

If women are being asked they will rate everyone lower because now they have power imbalance and perceive themselves above the men.

If this man was their boss, on the other hand, the attraction would be significantly higher. It's basically worthless to conduct studies on women because context and their stinky holes will motivate outcomes and never be repeatable.

Only if you are a steroid gymrat

This is easy to explain. The guy on the left looks like he would be a good provider to a wife and family. The guy on the right looks like a narcissist fruitcake who wastes hours of time in the gym.

Forget race war
When is a gender war gonna start

He looks good in the before picture, and his head looks giant in the after picture. The women are right the men voting on that pol are regarded.

Never. Half of Anon Babble is simps. The ratio of simps will remain unchanged no matter what the zeitgeist.

they want you weak and desperate

Pure cope from gym bros. No woman I have ever known has found huge muscles sexy. Ever. They will take a dad bod over some roided up gear head. Women don’t like try hards and that’s what gym bros are. Dude with a dad bod doesn’t give a fuck what other people think. If you workout for your health that’s all that matters and why you should work out for. If pumping up glam muscles think you get women you will only get faggots

Women will find huge muscles sexy if their husband is lacking in huge muscles. You cannot win, women's evolutionary psychology is a dumpster fire.

How about you make choices WITHOUT needing to look up what women think of it. If all that controls your thought process is ”how much will women love me”, you are an insecure beta. 50 women can tell me they want a dad body, Im still gonna ignore them and be more lean because I WANT it, Idc

Women will never love you and there will always be an equal and opposite reaction. You may as well just fuck whores on Tinder. Give them a fake name and cum inside them if you have some kind of breeder philosophy. You do you king.

Women do this too.
Big lips (for women) are believed to be more attractive, but for men they are actually less attractive.

the women are correct here

left is in a gym in athletic shorts trying to get stronger

right is wearing briefs in a locker room, looking like he's about to get in a tub with a bunch of men

Is it because he looks 10x more like a manlet in pic #2?

I’ll just keep going to the gym, even though only gay men are attracted to me. > I actually like lifting man-made metals despite it providing me no benefit and lowering my life span.

yeah my muscles are bad ass. I’m like a Greek warrior dude!

no I am not gay! What?

He over did it. Got too shredded. Common manlet L.

Manlet is a derogatory term that foids use to describe short kings, please unfuck your internalized matriarchy sir.

He looks better in other pic because his face isn’t gaunt and has more hair on head.

Women are eugenicists

Lmao. People are only getting dumber, of frail bones and mentally ill from birth since women can chose

Women are revolting garbage who have to constantly alter all aspects to appear tolerable

depends on what you plan to do with your life anon
if you are childless, unmarried, short life span + peak fitness is best

I am 6’1’’ and currently 260lbs but I am ripped, can do easy 10 pull-ups, 40 push-ups and run 10km

Why you should never give a fuck what women think

Dadbods are easier to keep and the women replying are insecure or millennial chicks in their 30s.

you dick gets bigger when you lose weight tho. your groin is right below your belly, so belly fat often covers the groin as well, and loseing a significant amount of fat can add a half inch to your visible dick size if now more depending on how much of a lard ass you are.

Another common manlet L.

These people are nuts. Women's brains exist in a hellish juxtaposition of wanting to be mothers whilst also needing to maintain while your husband's and kids were murdered and then you get a new baby raped into you. There's nothing to be done about these creatures except replace them with robots.

This was actually really eye opening to me because it made me realize that you guys really do know nothing about women.

Yes, they are lying when they say they prefer the one on the left. No, it’s not because they prefer the one on the right. They are not attracted to this man regardless. Whether he is fat, skinny fat, just skinny, or jacked, it makes no difference. This is an unattractive man. Furthermore, women really do find the idea of a man who is a gym rat to be unattractive. That’s how they’re able to reason the left is more attractive. What they really mean is that right is more unattractive because he looks like he would be a gym rat, not that either are remotely attractive. So given the choice between two unattractive men where one is just unattractive and the other is unattractive and annoying, of course they prefer the former.

Women are just not as attracted to muscles as you terminally online virgins like to imagine. They like natural athleticism, height, and good looks. They don’t give a fuck about your gym rat body, like at all.

To be honest his face doesn't quite sync up with his body on the right

many women are pathologically incapable of speaking the truth

Yes.

Women are attracted to themselves and concepts related to power dynamics about men or other women. What men look like is entirely irrelevant. They will blow a rich old man and they will find it hot, because the sexual entity is herself, and the man is an accessory to that.

Saved

what do i need to lose fat for when i have an 8inch giant fat cock.

circumference is 5.6 inches. thats a fat giant cock dude. wanna suck on it?

Don't know man, I have seen more shredded women in their 40s and 50s at my gym. Whether they're on gear or not, the muscles are still sex appeal.

Women are megalomaniacal creatures of pure narcissism. They don't find blacks or rich people or Chad's or anyone else attractive. They are only turned on by themselves, and concepts related to the dynamics of situations.

They are not attracted to this man regardless

he's a 2010s uk celebrity

The facts of wealth, or big muscles, or status, or whatever else is secondary to her feeding her own self worth. These people literally feed on your suffering and their own vanity.

The study that absolutely btfo'd Anon Babble. They've been real quiet since this dropped and are censoring any mention of it.

asking the real questions here

Women prefer a fat passive faggot who doesn't beat the brains out of their heads if they get found out while cheating

Short kings is a foid insult as well

He looks better in the before and it's because of the neck, face, and shoulders. The proportions just don't look right on that photo and his hair got worse. He just needs better fashion sense, some money, and he'll be good.

he looks better before
more laid back and his head is the right size for his body

Thank you first pic is obviously better.

if a woman gets it in her head that you're surpassing her 'league', she starts to get nervous

good.

theyre being genuine and the guy has a crappy face no matter how hard he roids. his facial structure is abysmal tier. its a round potato face, he has literally NO jawline and women are dying for the jawline and eyes. his eyes are too small but i doubt theyre porno for women.

Women are eugenicists

no, they only care about genetics
that like thinking an astrologist is actually some kind of astronomer

Only gays and closeted faggots think abs and looking like a steroid filled bodybuilder is attractive. A dad bod with minimal toning looks better than turning all of your fat into muscle. Makes you look skinnier and uglier

Thanks for reinforcing my opinion that working out is gay

The pic on the right is clearly in shape. His 12 week gym transformation is just a cut. He has more definition and most likely focused on his arms for a bit. Curls for the girls.

Also, his hair looks stupid on the right.

When women do sexual fantasies it usually involves love triangles of males with clear genetic divergence, and it doesn't actually matter what the men look like and it's barely described, what matters is concepts and relations to herself and describing herself because women are turned on by themselves and they're especially horny if other people validate their narcissism.

He looks worse in the second picture because he looks weaker due to having less body mass. Women are wired to feel attraction towards strength.

tyronigger fathered 255 children

story from msnbc basement

I workout and I am a bisexual man, I would love to see you make that comment to my face as I headlock and choke you out. Abs are sexy on both women and men, being a slob is not attractive.

The women are always lying.

Here’s why they’re lying about this: all women craft their public image to draw as little suspicion as possible.
Every woman tells the men she knows that she wants a guy who’s kind, intelligent, funny, sweet etc. in other words; all the stuff we want them to want in us, all of the things we approve of in other men.
This causes men to say; “ah ok, Jane is one of the good ones, she’s looking for a good man, I can take my eye off of her and give her the privacy to do whatever she wants.”
And then Jane goes and fucks every nigger, dyke, paki, drug dealer, ex convict etc that ever looks twice at her, and none of the men in her social group notice, and she suffers no consequences of being a slag.

So what the women here are trying to make you think is that your looks don’t matter, that they’re not looking for a ripped hulking animal, and that it doesn’t matter if you’re of ordinary size, because they’re “not going to judge you for it, and not going to leap into bed with the first knuckledragging gorilla who walks by…honest…and you trust me, don’t you anon?”

Never believe what they say, believe what you catch them doing.

The three BBCs combined for 81. That's not that much. There are giganigger BBCs like Dennis Rodman's dad who got 90+ on their own.

The problem with his after picture is that he shaved his body and put on bikini bottoms.

women

lying

yes.

You think them being willing to blow a guy means they find him attractive. Again, you know nothing about women. They don’t find it hot. That is your fantasy. They do it reluctantly 99.99% of the time, particularly if the guy is unattractive.

And?

Women are eugenicists

Women find you hot to the extent they think they look hot getting fucked by you. I'm not sure why this concept evades otherwise redpilled fellas. I think most black people probably know this by default without needing the explanation.

You’re a fag. If you ever put your hands on a straight man who knows you’re a fag he’ll kill you and you’ll deserve it.

Bikini bottoms for bottoms.

go and fuck every nigger, dyke, paki, drug dealer, ex convict etc that ever looks twice

Chaaaaaaaad :3

Ive said it before the first pic he looks cuddleable and warm. I can picture him coming in from chopping wood still fit from hard labor, he can put away a bowl of soup I made for him and then snuggle with me by the fire.

the men voting on that pol are regarded

there's one more "regard" in the world than you seem to think there is...

Man not even joking be careful if you think like that. A lot of them are super violent to cope with feeling emasculated.

They will stab you. Not on Anon Babble ofc but they are fucking bonkers.

Kill yourself faggot scum.

Everybody looks hot getting railed by a BBC.

First of all, do you know women who are capable of knowing what they want? Secondly, what kind of faggot lifts for women instead of for himself?

They will take a dad bod over some roided up gear head

ok, but why would anyone care what fat bitches think is attractive?
also, you just outed yourself as the kind of retard who takes females' words at face value.

anyone have that video of the nigger pulling a screwdriver out of his ass to kill some white guy in the middle of their shit sex?

Fucking horrifying. The best cautionary tale there is.

Women also completely bog and ruin themselves, not to mention use make up which fucks up their skin and creates a self perpetuating cycle

Secondly, what kind of faggot lifts for women instead of for men?

The example is to illustrate the aesthetics of individuals are secondary to her narcissism and concepts she can invent related to power dynamics.

Imagine thinking you can trust anything women say online lmao

Wouldn't happen anyway. 32 years old and still workout harder than I did in my 20s. I am not married, I have FWBs, my male boyfriend is taller and stronger than me, so keep dreaming. You think all gay men are twig twinks? Yeah, not true. Most bodybuilders are secretly gay.

explains mudsharks perfectly

Again, women are sexually attracted to themselves first and foremost, and everything else is an accessory to her and her ego.

what the christ is in your browser history

fucking leafs man

Cope and seethe all you want, but this is the actual explanation.

That reply is extremely incorrect. Women are the ones who don't know what they want.

That escalated quickly.

They are eugenicists, and none of their selection criteria makes sense until you consider that they are adapted to the Serengeti where they’re swinging from the trees, or to the plains of Eurasia where they’re picking berries. And indeed, in these low-energy states, the tall, robust, aggressive Chad is the optimal mate. Their selection criteria is not gonna adapt in real time to giant environmental changes, especially ones that ALLEVIATE natural selective pressures (any tech development at all)

Picrel is what we all are. Primal instinct-driven Apes larping as something else

They like natural athleticism

an anon already addressed this fallacy.
there is no such thing as an athletic man who never does athletic things.
you're just another retard who pays attention to females' words instead of their actions.

Don't beat yourself up anon
Badumptiss

Aka a eugenicist, lol. It’s just that they’re running 400 thousand year old software. In the jungle, height = scale = fighting success = mating rights. And the girls don’t understand that we are in a new environment now. There’s a lot of shit men don’t understand either. We, too, are adapted to the trees.

how did he get to be a celebrity if women truly aren't attracted to him?
again, pay attention to what females do instead of what they say.
naive retard.

You’re a weak little faggot and 90% of men you know want you dead. I would gladly drop you and stomp on your head until your sick diseased brain leaks out.
The world secretly hates you and it’s only top down institutional pressure that keeps you from being dragged behind a truck.
The jew is your protector. Imagine that. Scum.

Wtf are you idiots talking about. That's just post and precut. Left is healthier, right is for showing off how hard you worked.
Of course women prefer the small layer of fat. Biologically that is healthier and we are supposed to have it. Besides that the right could indicate narcissistic tendencies. That's just the tip of the iceberg as to why the left picture is considered much more attractive.
But the most likely reason is women always want to be the skinny one in the relationship and the right picture sets a standard they don't want to live up to. That motherfucker gets up at 5 am, and they ain't about that life.
Anyone that genuinely thought women preferred the right picture I have bad news.
You are not immune to propaganda.

Women never selected mates, they are not programmed to be selective. They are programmed to survive being ran through by several different conquering tribes. They only care about their status and ego and everything around them is an accessory.

It’s not so much the narcissistic tendencies that an obviously gymcelled body conveys, it’s that it communicates the exercise of a sexual strategy, and betrays that this physique is not the result of quality genes. The guy on the left can atleast claim he doesn’t lift, and his physique does not obviously betray this lie.

The most important important sexual strategy is to lie about engaging in any sexual strategies.

females are not a separate species that evolved in a different environment from men.
and citing an evolutionary environment that ceased to exist forty thousand years ago is stupid as shit. What, you think evolution just stopped at the stone age for some fucking reason?

you're a pig fucking slob

UK? No gun rights lol
Here in America I proudly have a decent stash and I own a husky. Keep dreaming.

natures eugenics automaton

This faggot thinks that nigger bastards are women “improving the gene pool”.

This hipster-ass, chad-posing “the women are actually right and you’re all too beta to see it” shit is the jews and needs to get fucking gassed.

How does this grooming bussines works

They are basically a separate species as it relates to their evolutionary psychology yes

they are not programmed to be selective

Says anon in 2025 after we’ve had over a decade of data, graphs, charts, Tinder experiments, incel crisis, growing delta in male/female sexlessness.

You can tell who’s female and who’s male by their ratio of left and right swipes on dating apps. Women are absolutley selective. I will admit I’m not exactly sure how selection can develop in a species, where the typical “courtship ritual” is men thugging it out over mating rights and then the winner breeding the girls anyways. But evidently our girls are selective.

men women men women men women men women

shut the fuck up nigger

pic

yeah, thanks, because I needed even more reason to have a low opinion of sheboons...
ffs

They're selective as it relates to concepts relating to their own narcissism, which may often have significant overlap with positive genetic features, but is not rationally tied to them.

Why are you still flapping your gums, you repulsive sexually retarded disease bag?
I’ve told you I want you dead. I have nothing else to say to you. Die now.

calvin klein

On both sides are two massive faggots. Can't spot the difference.

Never ever have women "selected" mates. They were raped, or arranged married.

Well yeah. I’m a male and I am absolutely disgusted when I hear people talk about “strategies”. Same as learning “game”. If you need strategy and game you are a fucking loser. They say “just be yourself” to weed out fakers. It’s also why they won’t ever tell you exactly what they are attracted to. If they did then the fakers would gamify and strategize to take advantage.

Post a picture of a woman after showering and air drying her hair...

Post a picture of a woman after spending 2 hours glammering herself in makeup...

Ask Men and Women which one they prefer.

Send there logic right back to em '

This is the least true thing I've ever read. Women don't care at all about the source of muscles. If a woman dislikes you going to the gym, it is because she perceives it as low social status behaviour, not because it means you have "fake muscles" like many of you twigs seem to think. Girls one meets at the gym think that guys who lift are more attractive because they see lifting as a high status behaviour that smart, cool, ambitious people do.

The man with larger muscles has better genetics and is healthier than the man with smaller muscles, because it takes a good metabolism and a higher testosterone level. It's evolutionary biology, the term is literally called physical fitness.

They dislike the image on the right because his pose is less attractive, the photo was taken in worse lighting, his haircut is much worse and he looks balder, and he is smiling harder. All situations of the picture itself, not the man. The man's body is objectively more attractive in the after state.

And then you consider the cope the woman have with regards to not wanting a man to be too good looking, because then he'll be easier to keep around, and it's not hard to see why the poll is so skewed.

Maybe you need a cock in your ass, it would program your brain to not be so hateful to your fellow man. I hate violence. Sounds like you have deep issues.

Oy Vey Boyim don't you know that women are eugenicists?

I'm getting real tired of your foids and your constant gaslighting. I will thoroughly savor killing you bitches.

That last sentence is false. Just look at online dating.

sure
now explain why any man with status and money would want to fuck a hog?

The thing is that women are selective for non-valuable traits because they use sex to humiliate and emasculate men.
Women being put in charge of the gene pool will take us back into the caves.

They adapted under different selective pressures. The proof of this is sexual dimorphism.

No adaptation did not end, it never does. But the modern world alleviates the intensity of natural selection as 1) more people make it to adulthood and 2) monogamy ensures everybody breeds. What adaptation to this paradigm that does take place is likely to just be dysgenic, actaully.

But anyways, it is absurd to claim the girls and their most primal software have adapted in real-time to a first world high-tech metropolis that’s only been around for a couple decades. No bro it doesn’t work this way. We have no adapted either. Wide hips, ample fat despotic, youth, lordosis behavior, these are all my favorite things even though the modern world renders these things meaningless.

be women

demand men who want to date you must have visible 6vpack abs

pretend that it’s not what you want when confronted by actual guy with abs

Women are the niggers of gender, they lie all the time.

Low fat on a body may show a dedication to fitness but subconsciously it shows a lack of resources to build up energy reserves

Found the Fatty --

No being thin and fit and not carrying any excess weight means you have great skill an do not experience famine and thus are good for a woman to breed with and pass on those genes .

>T. Thin fit man who gets sexual harassed by women

Little did you know...
I am the bane of the canadian feds

Men will mostly fuck anything, there's no real reason not to unless they're so repulsive I guess there's some implied risk of disease.

The brain rot of Leafs is irreparable at this point.

Women are like Jews and lie almost constantly. I love em but it is what it is.
They can't even trust each other to give advice on what looks good and what doesn't.

Most bodybuilders are secretly gay.

Holy shit the delusion.

It's women who swipe left on both so they should shut the fuck up.

Women lie. Ink know this is a huge revelation and something no one thought possible. But women lie. Even on an anonymous poll. Because they feel like they should say the first guy. That's all it boils down to. How they feel, not what they think or anything objective. They feel like society wants them to say the first pic, they feel its socially acceptable, they feel superior to other women by answering this way.

Lmao. Can you even think of a problem whose remedy isn’t “a cock in the ass”? Subhuman, anally fixated retard. Hang yourself.

He went too far with the cut, it went beyond losing weight, he lost body mass in the process. From their perspective he just became smaller in general, and they greatly value stuff like broad shoulders

God damn it you stupid fuckign niggers, eugenicist is pejorative and I absolutley do not mean to imply that they are improving the gene pool. Imagine pretending that calling girls eugenicists exalts them.

Women often like their men to not be too much of a target for other women. If you've had any long-term relationship, you'll notice she'll try to fatten you up.

Men are more about "muh sick gainz,, brah." Though women judge women as harshly about hair, makeup, clothing, etc. than men will. I have a very pattern-attuend mind, so I notice when women change this shit but most women always complain that men don't notice or care.

Feels great, you're missing out. I would recommend some muscle bound nigger with a big one to pin you down and give you a good dicking.

It doesnt matter how valuable a trait is. We’re just talking about “are women selective”. And if they all select for the same thing, in the same direction, this means they are selective. How eugenic or dysgenic their selection is is irrelevant. And their selection criteria does indeed pull in the exact same direction.

Interesting...

So women who spend everyday in the gym are actually fat slobs that are afraid they will lose their fake non-natural/genetic attraction quality to males if their natural looks come out.

Got it thanks.

1) Does this feed into her narcissism
2) Would her woman brain in the current year perceive this to elevate her status

This is how female selection works. Because they cannot be selective their sexuality is entirely wrapped up in her ego and concepts.

nly a fool pays attention to females' words instead of their actions

THIS -- a million times.
Women say they want a man with money and a good job and does something like be a doctor ... But you never see a woman hanging out at lectures on molecular biology ...... they are at the club -- looking for buff Tyrone or Guido...who can barely put a sentence together

“Based gays”

correct

faggot

Men will mostly fuck anything

I once fucked a fattie laying in a pool of her own piss and vomit halfway into the mens toilet and when i was done some other guy took over

Based.

jeet detected

Lot of Indians in Oslo these days…

Really makes you think. May be truth to it. I never was able to do too much workout or a strict diet so that may be why I slay pussy like a king. Good.

They’re in the gym wearing nothing and bending over in front of men because the gym is the lek. That they get a fatter ass and thighs out of it is secondary. You would not apply some truth about male behavior to women.

Also, we are not selective in the way women are selective. We just like some ass and tits. Doesn’t matter where it comes from, we will not interrogate it further. We will fuck mostly anything. What selection we do do is something forced by the fact that men MUST choose, and so the girls compete with one another and make themselves look more enjoyable to fuck (their only value) to land the highest quality man.

“Would” = these eggs are worth atleast a couple dozen calories, I guess. And I probably won’t get AIDS.

Again, women are not selective and have never ever before chosen their mates anywhere on Earth.

Even small roid usage is better than obesity for long term health. Its really only when you get to pro bodybuilder or strongman roid levels you start cutting into how long you live.

Why are you all repeating this meme about women's choice? Women have always been property.

If your 600 pounds everything reduces lifespan

their men

Their betabuxx, you mean. Not the men they crave and have one night stands with when they’re in heat.

I defy you to explain why every single girl’s selection pulls in the exact same direction. Line up 100 girls and 100 guys and ask each girl individually to pick a mate. How many unique men get picked? All of them? No. It’s more like 5, tops. This is called sexual selection.

I live in a castle doctrine state, stand your ground and no duty to retreat. I just have to tell my fellow queer hating cops that a gay who is clearly larger than me and threatened to overpower and choke me out (possibly rape me) and take my gun from me.

I am not chubby, I just dont feel the need to work out, constantly and have to maintain that and a nasty organic kale diet and lean chicken until I get old and I let myself go anyways

That they haven’t been allowed to choose mates is a different matter entirely. Monogamy does that. The net selection effect is zero if all men get to breed.

Women don’t like to be mogged by their husband. My gf used to complain that my ass was larger than hers from all the squats I did.

“After” picture looks like an unnaturally low BMI gym-obsessed freak. “Before” looks like a natural male blue-collar body type who doesn’t stuff his face with corn syrup.

Women are lying. Pic related is the guy's girlfriend. She is an attractive blonde fitness trainer and actually encouraged him to lose more fat because obviously she prefers right to left. Now just look at the woman posting they prefer him with more fat. Whenever you see women seething over some guy doing self improvement, simply look at the guy's girlfriend and the women he attracts and you will know the truth.

That's a fucking gunt on the left you dumb cunt.
Right is far better
What a stupid fucking thread
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With only the context of their physical appearance, there will be significant overlap with strong genetic features. This has nothing to do with the object being evaluated by the women, and has everything to do with the woman's own ego and narcissism and how the selection plays into those.

Since when are women anything but manipulative cunts? Holy shit I wish I was gay for real.

This is because of her narcissism and ego. This reality cannot be explained with "eugenic selective woman theory"

nice try rabbi, I'm still gonna keep lifting to curbstomp all you kikes when the time comes

The jews and niggers will destroy us before the women do and women draw 99% of their strength from kike funding.
Race war comes first.

all women’s mate choice is the exact same because they all share a common mental pathology.

No I like my explanation better. So does Occam.

You have to get off the internet or stop using tinder.

the girls like natural strength and don’t like it when you lie to them about your genetic quality

”reeee you must be a Jew”

By the way, nowhere I that post did I suggest that one should not lift. What I did suggest was that you ought to LIE and say you don’t lift, and carry a physique that supports this lie, even just barely. So, like, swole a shit but with a layer of fat on top. You can’t be an IFBB pro and claim you don’t lift.

Except it’s a well known female strategy called “strategic pluralism”

Also, Tinder is real life. It’s the closest digital facsimile to the human brain in terms of how mate choice is made. If it wasn’t, noboyd would use it.

It's not the same at all, it's all totally fucked up and there's only a vague compass that points toward wherever the most sexual violence is found, which sometimes offers overlap with positive genetic features incidentally.

I'll say it a final time, women have never ever selected mates, ever, anywhere. How would a half half my height and half my weight choose whether I cum in her or not?

The guys look at that and think "this man shows his dedication to his health and his ability to work hard"
The women look at that and think "this man has no resources left for me because he invests everything into himself"
/thread

dont go to the gym

maybe get some BPD overweight twitter whore

do go the gym

maybe get some blonde prime athletic woman

Hmmmmmm......

Lifespan is a given, not an expectation

Most women like real men, part of which is being your own person and not conforming and pandering to other people's ideals, which is why if a man is ripped because he's a carpenter or an oil rigger, and such, women will worship him, but if he's ripped because he pumped himself full of steroids, spent half his free time working out and the other half taking pictures for the socials then women will correctly assume he is a poser, and not a real man.

It's also easy to spot a man on steroids just as it's easy to spot a woman with breast implants or BBL, it just doesn't look natural.

I tried the whole gym bro thing before, quickly realised that they're a bunch of closeted cock suckers that are terrible with women. I have a job that keeps me in shape and I always catch women giving me the fuck me eyes on my work days, my misses is always more hot for me on those days to, women can smell this stuff, you can't just make your self look manly, you have to live it.

Also on the left he fits more into the "daddy" frame while also fitting into the father frame (provider) as in a father for a women's kids while on the right he looks like a selfish metrosexual self improover who wants all the money for himself and his lifestyle so he doesn't look as generous and as friendly as the one on the left side

Because most of us look like first pic and are incels.
What exactly do we have to be confident about?
You still want us to play the ddominant role in the mating ritual but you want to dominate us in everything else.
Just another case of women wanting rights and resposibilities but not accepring the consequence of their actions.