Why are Canadian hospitals so bad?

Why are Canadian hospitals so bad?

have a fucking kidney stone (thought it was a burst appendix at first)

go to ER

”they’ll be with you in 5 min sir”

average wait time: 9 hours

immigrants everywhere taking full advantage of our healthcare

the amount of fat overweight head wrapped Muslim women is just fucking unreal

I’m puking several times and no one gives a fuck

poor old people beside me have been waiting 10+ hours for something to do with a heart related blood clot

all the female nurses are in their 20s and talk like thiiiis, like totally, haha

they haven’t given me anything in like two hours

old lady behind me is getting angry at the nurses

only after getting an x ray do they give me Hydromorphone

doctor was a Nigerian who could barely speak English

didn’t give me anything to take home other than lousy prescription I’d have to get A DAY after to get

I’m still mad.

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free healthcare haha right?

youre lucky they didnt just telling you to kys

The problem is that the society that we live in is fucking trash, made by trash for trash.

works here

I have about half my family in canada. they used to bring up "free healthcare" a lot during family gatherings as literally the only "own" to america. because canada has literally nothing else better than america.

then my aunt died while waiting in a hospital ER waiting room for over 15 hours. that side of the family realized they didn't have free healthcare anymore. they don't really have any healthcare.

it was too sad for me to gloat over them but now it never gets brought up anymore. since then more of my relatives have been asking me about moving to america, too.

Because Brazil is known to be top international beacon of healthcare

Isn't the healthcare system designed to be shitty?

Because the average healthcare worker is a fucking retard, that includes doctors, so they are highly incompetent and inefficient, add on top retarded bureaucracy and you get that.

People always forget that the healthcare is only free if you dont pay taxes. The annual cost per taxpayer is up to 30k in some provinces, you could argue that taxpayers in the USA actually pay less for better care depending on wheee you live.

Yeah. I am fairly certain it's to remind us that peasants ain't shit.
I was at the hospital for almost a month a few years ago, and the food was so garbage I almost stopped eating. I am fairly certain prisoners get better food.

I was at the hospital for almost a month a few years ago, and the food was so garbage I almost stopped eating. I am fairly certain prisoners get better food.

That’s just depressing. Holy shit. You’d think they’d know that good food delivers a healthy perspective. But apparently not.

It's not a restaurant faggots
hospital should give water and a loaf of bread, that's it, 3 course meals and tea breaks is fucking retarded

Hospitals are basically set up to work like this:
At triage you're given a quick, cursory evaluation.
Are you in imminent danger of death without treatment?
No? Then you can wait.
The frustration comes from the fact that they don't tell you that they already determined you're not in danger and don't require urgent medical attention--because people get angry and scream at nurses when they tell them that.

The nurse at triage took one look at you and knew you weren't dying of a burst appendix and thus it was either a soft tissue injury, a kidney stone or a stomach ache. Then they just have to wait for the doctors and nurses busy saving lives to have enough spare time to run the tests that they're required to run before they're allowed to give you anything.

The system 'works' in that people don't really die or worsen waiting for treatment and the hospital's success rate is actually rather high, but it's an awful experience. The core issue is that there are not enough doctors, and the system requires doctors to consult on every test and treatment in the hospital no matter how minor. So if you aren't dying, you wait until everyone in greater danger goes first. It's callous, but that's the reality of triaging. If you stop breathing they can always rush in a cart and pump oxygen down your throat but the dude with a gash on his thigh bleeding out can't wait. We don't have enough doctors because doctors in canada don't make enough to offset the cost of their student loans to become doctors, which forces them to seek for-profit healthcare work abroad.

Stories like are 100% fictional though. People dying on waiting lists basically never happens and the few cases where it does are typically death by something unrelated to their condition--like a car crash. I don't really know why americans have this whole propaganda apparatus built around slandering our healthcare system but for better or worse it's not failing to save lives.

t. insider.

Buddy the nurses are the fucking worst. I'm more inclined the 9 hour wait time is less to do with the immigrants than it is the nurses just being a bunch of fucking slouches and browsing/posting on their phones instead of working.

and talk like thiiiis, like totally, haha

and still say shit like 'awesome sauce'
That's if you're lucky enough to get the white nurses.

Most hospital food is delivered by large vendors under province wide service contracts managed by mega corps like BGIS. All that counts is whether the vendor provides roughly the correct quantity of meals at the right times, so the food is small portions of pure industrial slop. Like many aspects of the health system it has been optimized to provide the most value to service provider shareholders at the cost of patient experience. Prisoners do in fact get far superior food in terms of quantity and quality to keep the population docile. Food is prepared fresh on site daily by in house cooks, to achieve this and for securiry reasons.

Ask for a refund.

We don't have enough doctors because doctors in canada don't make enough to offset the cost of their student loans

Lol retard
Go back

No wonder our system is so fucked with retards like this guy running it.

Canadian healthcare used to work well before they brought in a trillion immigrants. Now every immigrant parasite in the country is sitting in the emergency room for absolutely anything wrong with them because they don't have a family doctor and don't know about clinics. The reality is that almost all of the western world is completely fucked unless they start doing mass deportations.

That sucks Canadian cuck
Maybe you guys should join the USA

up to 30k/yr

No fucking way, what? I pay ~$7500 for myself, my wife, and our kid for our insurance through my job and we have breddy gud coverage. I don't know how you guys put up with your medical system

yeah, theres something very nasty about a lot of the nurses here. they are rude, condescending and out right disrespectful. i was waiting in the ER one time (nothing much, had to get a shot and have no family doctor lol) and one of them was loudly berating some old woman who could hardly hobble to her seat in tones like only a total bitch would use to even a child. it was so disgusting that some jumped up little cunt barely out of college was treating that old lady. its the same shit with the doctors and it goes from top to bottom in the health system - zero respect for the people, because at the end of the day, the people dont fucking matter to them. we aren't customers that can take our business elsewhere - we are subjects of the government who can, at most, write and harshly worded letter.

then where is there a huge shortage of doctors? there are years long waiting lists just to get a primary care doctor so you dont have to go to the ER for everything. they can't even attract foreign doctors anymore. there were a couple in a nearby town bu they fucked off home.

halifax.citynews.ca/2024/04/09/new-brunswick-patient-found-slumped-in-chair-after-waiting-seven-hours-inquest-told/amp/

???
People die waiting all the time you snake. And that’s when someone bothers to launch an inquiry. MAID wouldn’t even be a political debate if we could actually accommodate the amount of patients. There is always animosity amongst healthcare professionals towards patients, but only the liars would disregard the reality that hospitals are sometimes complicit in deaths.

~$7500 for myself,

they say thats about the average amount each working person in canada pays for health care each year through income taxation etc. we also have to pay maybe $150-$250 extra each month BY LAW for another private medical package if you are employed.

they fuck us all ways.

immigrants everywhere taking full advantage of our healthcare

the amount of fat overweight head wrapped Muslim women is just fucking unreal

I had a family member with a real life threatening emergency a couple years ago where they had to stay in a Toronto ER for a couple days waiting for a bed in the relevant part of the hospital to open up (not enough beds). The rest of my family would take shifts keeping them company so I was frequently coming and going through the waiting room, every time it was 1) more people than seats and 2) what you describe above. Every time.
Last I checked there not only isn't a new hospital being built in Ontario but there isn't even one planned. Meanwhile they've flooded us with millions of Tim Hortons workers.

plebbit spacing but 100% correct. 3/4 of emergency room visits are retarded single moms who think little tyrones sniffle is life threatening.

3/4 of emergency room visits are retarded single moms who think little tyrones sniffle is life threatening.

sounds about right from the few times ive been, and dont forget all the browns doing the same. but it might be because they can't get on the books of a family doctor, like my family and others i know. not that they need to go for the sniffles, but you know what i mean

High protein meals are essential to patient recovery. Why do you Aussies all sound the same? I know one of you that says retarded shit like that all the time.

kentucky triage

perfected in canada

Its also kind of dumb because in the past pharmacists could actually prescribe things like cold medication to treat minor illnesses etc. Now everything requires a physicians signature unless its floor policy (eg a nurse can give you Tylenol without a doctors order).

The fundamental issue is the Canadian system makes it extremely difficult to practice medicine. The "Working as intended" triage system you described puts incredible strain on ER doctors as it is incredibly inefficient with doctors being set up to fail as the process bottleneck. No matter what you pay ER doctors no one can work under those conditions long term. Lets not even get into the bullshit non hospitalists have to deal with. Whenever anyone attempts to advocate for necessary changes, status quo defenders rush in to shut it down and also ask for more money

My brother was in a serious car accident in 2017 and he had a nurse who wouldn't even close his blinds for him

after he just had his hip bone and his right arm reconstructed and was completely bed ridden

and the fucking nurse said 'That's not my job'
I almost got banned from visiting my brother because I tried to give her shit. Like how hard is it to just close the fucking blinds? Especially considering the medication they give you makes you extra sensitive to light. Fucking bitch. She was a petite white girl with dyed hair tattoos for all that's worth.

Like the kind of person you can just tell virtue signals online and never misses the latest hashtag or pfp filter. Pronouns in the bio. Fuck Trump. Republicans are nazis, etc.

Stories like are 100% fictional though

Did you do the research before making this claim?

Family practices suffer a lot of issues of their own. There aren't enough doctors around, so there's a shortage of practices accepting new patients. And at least in Ontario there's a fucked up administrative system that actively encourages practices to silently drop patients when they seek treatment outside of the practice (ie going to a walkin when you can't get an appt at the family doctor, going to the hospital for a genuine medical emergency).

I processed at least a few cases where a family clinic accidentally unpersoned someone because the DEI hire sitting behind the desk didn't realize that the medical records they keep are the main medical records for that patient in the province and that deleting them just removes the patient's entire medical history from public record. They're responsible for keeping those records indefinitely, or transferring them either to the province or another clinic when necessary but nobody explains this to these people so you end up with folks that can't get their Angina meds because their prescription lapsed, their family doctor dropped them without saying anything, the records of the months of testing they went through to prove they need the meds were deleted and they can't find a new doctor to vouch for them. Once again, everything flows from the root issue that there aren't enough doctors and those we have are strained financially
We've eased up on that recently but part of the reason for the cracking down was a whole black market formed around trading and abusing addictive prescription painkillers. Pharmacists would take a cut, give you Tylenol 3's for period cramps and you'd sell them on the streets to opoid addicts for a pretty penny. Around the mid 2010s prescription opoids were the most common illicit drug traded in Ontario so the point of contact had to be curbed.

oh yeah the control over what you can get from the pharmacy is bullshit too for sure. that one thing with having the state run the health system - they just expand and expand what they control because of it.

No matter what you pay ER doctors no one can work under those conditions long term.

thats what ive thought about it too. its crazy, since ER attendance is supposed to be the most expensive way to access medical care too.

status quo defenders rush in to shut it down

based on their comfy massive paychecks or ideological grounds. once you have the commies ideal of 'free' healthcare that the state runs i really dont think you'll ever be able to get rid of it, or even shrink it. its just too much of an idol.

They're fucking money grubbing cunts who rely on government gibs just to get by. They only buy the cheapest of any and everything. Fucking add water cafeteria mashed potato mix for you because that's what you get when you nationalize healthcare.

seems like its just a system designed to make everyone resent and then hate everyone else. its like what yooud hear about state run restaurants in the old USSR - all the staff fucking hated the customers because theyd get paid no matter what and each extra customer was just making them do more work.

MRE food is better than the shit they give you in hospitals.

They’re already begging for more money on TV after Trudeau gave them 50 billion like 2 years ago. I hate this fucking country and every brown piece of shit who came here to shit out a baby for “free” Boomers will bankrupt the country when each and every one of them gets millions of dollars of free cancer drugs before they finally fuck off and die

oof I'm sorry to hear that. She/he should have been reported. That IS a nurses job. She should have even asked the patient their personal preference.

For some reason I just thought of this old funny quote from the USSR

We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us

i heard about peope getting dropped for going to another clinic etc. incredible. but them deleting all your files? man, if youve got some condition that needs constant attention thats like a death sentence. could take months and years to get all the referrals, tests and scans etc.

i always think youve got to keep money aside for medical care in the US if you can. theres no trusting the system here.

There's no litigation when the entire floor staff are just as ratchet as the nurse you're complaining about. Like I said, I almost got banned from visiting my brother for trying to get her in trouble.

the worthless mancuck simp security guard gets a special mention

I find it hurts more people than helps. I'm an army veteran for example so sometimes I need T1's to sleep and my doctor wont prescribe them because "I'm not old enough". I was Army infantry so I have a host of chronic pain issues. Whenever I ask for OTC T1's they treat me like I'm a drug addict and I end up just mixing IB profen and tyelenol...I hope I don't get stomach bleeding ffs. Oh and my dad who is like 70 can just walk in and buy them no questions asked ffs.

The biggest problem is the filthy fucking immigrants have no idea what an ED is actually for. So they turn up with their dozens of well-fed relatives because their 105 yr old gramps who has untreated syphilis is not able to "eat good". So what does the western health care system do? Oh well they throw open the doors for Ali baba and get him a bed immediately with all the IV antibiotics he could want. Now when Ali is reviewed its determined he hasn't eaten a proper meal since 1973 due to a bowel obstruction/cancer. Well then there is a referral to a oncologist to 'get that sorted out'. All the free imaging that Ali could ever want. Now what do you think Ali's illiterate, basically retarded family members are doing while Ali is chilling in hospital? Oh they hang around. Just taking up space, talking in their disgusting language, complaining about the free food and frequent use of soap and lack of underage rape going on in the ward. So before you know it, this bloke has accumulated $150k worth of healthcare for nothing and the very next week drops dead because the cunt is 105. My taxes pay for this garbage.

I'm really sorry that happened. I used to work as a care aide on a nursing floor after I left the army so I don't doubt you at all. The healthcare environment can be very toxic. Shit nurses will cover for other shit nurses, everyone in the hospital is fucking each other. A lot of the new genz nurses have a real dose of toxic feminist narcissism too.

Cmon bro, do you really think adding more of the most expensive input(doctors) into a broken system is really an effective solution to the problem.

Down there, if they don't do their job they'll get shot

Do you feed bears when hiking? Do you feed dingos while camping? Obviously not because than the wildlife become dependent on your hand outs to survive. If you keep feeding the useless and disgusting patients, they don't fucking leave. Its pretty bloody obvious you pretend frenchman.

thats why relying on complaints instead of people spending their money somewhere else doesn't work very well. if no one will listen because they know you have no power over them at all, what can you do? they dont want to hear about how shit the system is because they already know...but have to try keeping a lid on it for political reasons.

better to just be able to talk your dollars to another hospital that has a good reputation.

Dude you sound like a tard.

they do that for sure and with more and more them brought in it will only get waaay worse. but theres still the fact that if you make something free at the point of use, there will always be the kind of people who will just use more and more of it. they tried to make it so you had to pay a nominal fee for a doctor appointment one time here, and there was a huge backlash against it. it was maybe $5.

thats how people think

In Canada everyone just gets waitlists and MAID so IDK what you are complaining about.

come on matey old buddy old pal - if you cant eat well in hospital then its pretty fucked up

Its bad behind the scenes. Ontario wide they even have a list of "approved language" to use to patients. Like you cant refer to a mother breastfeeding...its apparently "chest feeding" now as not to offend trannies. I got cancelled for thought crime cause I was one of the few people who refused to go along with that lunacy.

Because you aren't in a Canadian hospital, you are in an Indian/Nigerian one.

If you went to India or Nigeria and visited a hospital run by Canadians, you would get the level of service you have become accustomed to.

How so? Please, please you filthy leaf, tell ME how I sound a retard. My fucking taxes pay enough for cunts to languish for MONTHS in hospital. 99% of people in there have no gratitude for the obscene amounts of money spent on them. Therefore they do not have much motivation to get the fuck out.

The last time it needed an ER it took me 1:45 in a public UPA.

i suppose that was inevitable. gives them one more excuse to deny you service or access.

I hate to say it but I actually preferred to work with SEA, Indian and African nurses more than the tatted up, nose ringed, gauge ear, fat, dyed hair white ones. The funniest was an African Nurse who told me "anon, I don't understand Canada, how can you become a woman one day just because you feel that way? then become a man another day because you feel that way? It makes no sense"

ok tard, why do you all sound like that?

Lmao all of the nurses at my hospital just sit around on their phones doing fuck-all

You would not have seen it, but for like weeks there was this video of an indian woman complaining about having to pay to visit a GP here. It was played before our latest federal election. It was played on all the national TV stations. I am not even sure why they plastered this curry munching bint all over the place. But the cunt wasn't a citizen and wanted free fucking health care for her disease (we know its STD's) ridden family. I pay literally $40 to see my GP like 3-4 times a year. The issue arises when all the chronically ill elderly pricks (who have spent not a single minute of their lives getting healthy) want to see a doctor for the most trivial and benign shit.

Its ok, I still have my army pension and I'm actually glad to be away from that place. What actually got me was I had a patient high on amphetamines in a room. He tried to physically attack me. I warned the nurse about to go to the room "be careful there is a drug addict in there acting aggressively" (she was like 5 foot tall tiny thing so I was concerned for her safety) the fat bitch head of the floor overheard that and because I didn't refer to him in private as a "person with addictions issues" I got cancelled. They treated it like I went up to the guy and shouted it in his face.

A few years ago I dislocated my shoulder

mom drives me to hospital

Spend one hour in waiting room

"a doctor will see you shortly, please wait in this other room"

I sit there for three hours, start to wonder why no one's seen me yet

Go to the front desk and ask

Oh sorry anon we FORGOT about you! a doctor will see you shortly for real this time

Another 45 minutes pass

Finally a doctor comes in, spends 30 seconds popping my arm back into socket, tells me I'm good to go

I had to wait five fucking hours for something that took them 30 seconds to fix. And it wasn't even triage it was just incompetence

the tatted up, nose ringed, gauge ear, fat, dyed hair white ones

Saw at least two overweight purple haired “nurses” during my stay. Does not look good. You’d think a healthy physique would be mandated to reinforce that air of health and hygiene, but clearly not. Oh well.

Why wasn't him handcuffed and escorted by a cop? Or at the very least sedated.

Lot of people itt bitching about nurses, Ive spent months in hospital including family members and never had any issues. Whites which does matter, but maybe try please and thank you?

Oh we can't have any of that. I have a co-worker that always has a problem when I say "demented fucks" to refer to the zombies that take up soooo much hospital space. God forbid you tell a FEMALE nurse that an addict is going to fuck her up. Have to use all the correct pro nouns and other gay shit.

If i have wait more than an hour i start audibly faking how much xyz injury is hurting so i get a free shot of adavan works everytime and makes it tolerable

Why are female nurses in Canada and the US so disproportionately obese when compared to the rest of the population, anyway? Many nurses are fitness machines or even “excessively” fit, but for some reason it’s mostly men, and not women.

It's always the fucking fat HR Karen's

I lift weights since I was a teen so I would always get assigned to the morbidly obese patients to move them lol. I actually got into an argument with one of these fat nurses. I was talking about my high protein low carb diet and lifting routine. She started acting like a bitch and saying I'm actually unhealthy and I need to eat like the food pyramid says and that I should provide her SCIENTIFIC PROOF that my diet is healthy. I just pointed at her infront of everyone and said "you want proof, look at me and just look at you" *disgust in voice*. That was probably one of the things that lead up to me getting cancelled lmao

Free healthcare was absoultely achievable before boomers ran everything into the ground and imported hoardes of thirdies.

I literally mentioned this a while on retardbook. The amount of female nurses who defend looking like a ghetto wall covered in graffiti was astounding. They have no shame nor even a shred of professionalism.

they don't do that until its absolutely necessary. On the floor I worked on it took a nurse being kicked in the head and suffering brain trauma to finally get restraints on a patient.

Canadians voted for this and people in power know they can just dick around all day and still get paid due to communist policies.

Men are obligated to be able to move someone who's dead weight. If someone falls from their walker or wheel chair and there's only a female nurse around, she will yell incoherently while doing nothing helpful until a man comes and picks the person up

i bet that $40 keeps away a bunch of freeloaders who would otherwise be there for every ache and pain or sneeze.

I am not even sure why they plastered this curry munching bint all over the place

the obvious double virtue signals of 'we must have free healthcare!!!1' and 'we are so racist right now asking this poor person of color to pay for healthcare'.

honestly i dont know how anyone can work in that kind of environment for long.

I have a hot black wife so I take her with me if I ever have to go and I'm through er in like an hour, tops

Are you idiots or what? High idiots are dangerous as fuck, the bare minium is to check for possible weapons, more drugs and keep him cuffed, the ideal is sedative after getting information out of him and a cop on side all times.

I think it was mostly due to our PM to be an anus licking traitor since he signed some trade deal with India. Which obviously means we need more of the cunts here as 'students'.

Soon you will notice other things.

Remember when gyms were one of the first to go during Covid due to being alleged “germ nexuses?”. God forbid staying healthy. God forbid doing cardio. Even the fat gym regulars were pissed. Fat white unhealthy liberals who stay at home all day made this dumb decision.

Mate its the west. Hospitals are terrified of 'offending' the withdrawing addict more than protecting healthcare workers. At least in your country they execute the scum. Never had a bad experience with Brazilian nurses oddly enough too.

They are idiots. Even then after the nurse got brain trauma it took several nurses threatening to quit working on the floor if the patient wasn't restrained for administration to OK restraints. Most Canadians have a rosey coloured view of the world.

What pisses me off the most is how we are always being told how we need immigrants because of how many of our doctors are now immigrants, meanwhile for every one doctor they bring in we get 100k uber and tims workers who clog up the waiting rooms and it has made our access to healthcare a million times worse, and also the quality of healthcare has plummeted due to so many of the doctors being foreigners. I remember earlier into Trudeau's time in office he raised the education standards to become a nurse which caused a shitload of White nurses who would have otherwise passed to fail -- then he turned around and used it as an excuse to import foreign nurses who had lower standards than the ones our nurses had to achieve.

But remember, we're better than Americans because we spend the majority of our taxes on this bullshit healthcare.

I built my own basement gym during that. Its been great desu since I got to avoid all the cancelling drama aka #stopstaring crap.

>doctor was a Nigerian who could barely speak English

hate this anywhere, when they put people who can barely understand English in positions talking to people. you have to repeat shit multiple times, ask them to repeat. they get shit wrong, you get frustrated and just leave.

When a patient goes to a hospital for no good issue, don't you just put "no issue/lazy" in his work exemption certificate, the good code 76.

By the way you talk they sure are, it's like they treat healthcare as a mean to virtue signaling, instead of something to make sick dying people healthy again.

however liquor stores were deemed essential services. also rioting

The worst thing is that nobody fucking thinks this is an issue. At most they might recognize how there are migrants and jeets everywhere in a passing comment but if you actually bring it up in a negative light they throw a tantrum and call you racist. Or how they admit how people at their jobs keep fucking up all the time but if you dare mention their race and how it was never like this with whites they have a melty.

My uncle recently did this to a nurse and she's on permanent medical leave, he recently had a stroke plus rapid onset dementia and was already showing violent tendencies. granted he's 88 years old but i do feel the elderly mentally unstable people should be treated by a male nurse or watched more closely.
Oh well he's restrained to the bed now

however liquor stores were deemed essential services

The cope here is that "going cold turkey is bad for addicts!" even though they fully supported the covid lockdowns which caused even more drug abuse and depression.

Around here we have a few Cuban, Venezuelan, Angola... doctors and nurses, they have to pass a medical exam in Portuguese before they can work in the country.

How can someone who doesn't understand patients or manuals well even work in healthcare?

Your uncle is a pinoeer in the plight for womens equality. Equal rights, equal lefts

Yes. The system is broken BECAUSE it lacks the expensive inputs, because nobody of a lack of political will. The healthcare system is like an engine, we're running on raw crude and ethanol right now because the fucker in the driver's seat thinks the price of gas is too high. Every problem, personal and institutional, comes from a lack of doctors, and the cause of the lack of doctors is financial incentives vs the cost of education.
Once again, these are deliberately misleading stats designed to push political agendas. Every government loves cutting healthcare funding to fund their platform and these kinds of articles exist to manufacture consent for the cuts.
How? They include all waiting lists and all deaths as healthcare waiting list deaths, regardless of what they were waiting for or how they died. Most of those people are waiting for non-medically necessary tests, like allergy tests or bloodwork to address chronic period pain and then they die of thinks like car accidents. They even do totally disingenuous shit like claim someone who dies during treatment for terminal cancer had bloodwork pending. Most terminal illnesses will receive tests daily and will almost always have a requisition in queue because we schedule the next one as soon as the previous is finished. Oh my god, Abdullah died from stage 4 lung cancer waiting for his next X-ray scheduled for tomorrow after receiving an X-ray yesterday, the system has failed.

We have our own internal statistic that thoroughly track the per-patient wait times for all forms of testing and treatment and we constantly cross-reference them with autopsy data on causes of death. The number of times a patient has actually died of a disease while they were in queue to be treated for it (or receive tests to diagnose it) is so fantastically rare I would have to look back to pre-pandemic records to even find one.

B-but I heard the you FREE HEALTHCARE you pay 45% of income in taxes for was better than in the USA, take this post down immediately, sir!

i dont know what they do but ive seen young mothers with their 4 year old kid get lots of attention, doctor time etc at the ER because his nose was snotty. i mean sure, it might mean he was about to get fucking rabies or something, but the chances are its just a cold and he needed to go to bed to a warm drink.

A lot of the staff/admin are literal NPC's and aren't capable of thinking on the fly, they just blindly follow policy and flow charts. Currently the new thing is no restraints unless absolutely necessary and they really don't care how many people get hurt cause of it.

as in you'll get molested while being under.
your entire country needs to be put in front of a firingsquad.

Because in the west, public hospitals are no longer about fast admission and getting patients out so they don't come back. They admit people for the most trivial and absurd reasons. Like people literally leave their family and friends in the ED and claim "I am not coping" and walk away. So these demented fucks who should have died 20 years ago, are given a bed, free food, all the allied health referrals they will ever need and then spend MONTHS waiting for a nursing home.
There is a massive problem with boomers REFUSING to act when they see the first signs of dementia in their family. So they sit on this shit for decades and take no proactive/preventive measures and wait until they unable to do a single thing unsupervised.
This is in addition to the addicts who want free healthcare for their sepsis, diabetes and respiratory issues they have bought onto themselves because of their shit lifestyle. These people cost the tax payer obscene amounts of money.
People (its white women) even turn up to ED for eating disorders. Its pathetic to the extreme Brazilian bro.

Yes. The system is broken BECAUSE it lacks the expensive inputs, because nobody of a lack of political will. The healthcare system is like an engine, we're running on raw crude and ethanol right now because the fucker in the driver's seat thinks the price of gas is too high.

If what people are saying in this thread is true, then the problem is not bad fuel, but the engine is just bad.

No matter how many doctors, nurses, hospitals, image machinery, medicine... you add on the system, it'll never get close to being enough if you don't prevent people that doesn't need to be treated to clog it.

Just so I can learn more, do you only have hospitals, or do you have a tiered healthcare system, like basic healthcare posts for most stuff, emergency for more serious stuff and hospital for what is needed?

Tattoos on a nurse are a health hazard, but 90% of nurses have them so hospitals can't fire them, otherwise there would be no one left.
1) increased risk of infectious disease like Hep. C and HIV which is concerning when you're touching patient all day long or working in surgery
2) can't see if the skin underneath is clean. A lot of nurses have those disgusting sleeve tattoos. You can't even tell if they have shit on them or if it's just the pattern

Just disrespectful and unprofessionnal across the board. My respect for a nurse plummets as soon as I see a tattoo. I like to give them shitty tasks like do an EKG for a the fat and dirty patient.

Yeah, you can't believe shit about anything now a days because of how dishonest stats are, from selected location bias to counting everything for a stat due to it technically being allowed but under individual context is completely fake and gay and should not be added.

Can't forget tobacconists too. Any business to promote health was a cesspool of disease and death. But ethanol and cigarettes, totally permissible.

First, I don't care why you talk about "the West", you're not French or German, you're Australian. Same tier as Argentina, white, lots of natural resources but semi-European.

But I agree, it's pathetic to the extreme.

then my aunt died while waiting in a hospital ER waiting room for over 15 hours.

Post news article you lying jew. This shit is always national news

Based Doctor anon. Its funny cause all the female nurses hated working with male doctors...strangely I never had an issue and actually preferred working with male doctors cause I was actually competent.

ha ha, wow.... this country is fucking finished while faggots here scream at the top of their lungs at least we are not American and elbows up!

More like free pain
Whenever someone says "I want free healthcare", they're essentially saying they want to transform the medical system into a torture chamber
Beware

If you are a Dr, I salute you. They have to learn that when they get tattoos, they will be treated like the shit they are.

Most people are just completely mentally raped and brainwashed. On some level I think they know mass jeet importation is a problem but won't and aren't capable of saying so. At the same time you can see that there are multiple parallel societies here where all these faggots supporting this shit are rich boomers and their retarded liberal kids who implicitly isolate themselves from all this shit yet still benefit or advocate for it

I guess you should have just stayed home and shot a rock out of your dick instead.

holy fucking LMAO is that a serious article?

ike basic healthcare posts for most stuff, emergency for more serious stuff and hospital for what is needed?

pretty much. ideally you have your family on the books of a general practitioner/family doctor that you go to if you have an issue. you should be able to get an appointment within a couple days if you're lucky. there are walk in clinics in the cities which take the strain off the ER at the main hospitals. if you dont have a family doctor and you're not near a big city, you only have the option of an ER at the closest hospital.

fucking kidney stone

stick some voltaren up your bum

To be fair, public healthcare is supposed to be very unpleasant, it's the main way to prevent idle old people, drug tards and people seeking to escape work from filling every single unit as soon as they open.

At least you have this, I'm assuming it's a 2 or 3 tier system based in the British NHS.

Also, wouldn't it be easier to assign a default a family doctor/post to each rural areas to prevent this?

Canada isn't a serious country

this country is fucking finished while faggots here scream at the top of their lungs at least we are not American and elbows up!

masterful propaganda when you look at it. scary effective

On some level I think they know mass jeet importation is a problem but won't and aren't capable of saying so.

My own parents support the white genocide in africa right now. Even if they do think its an issue they think that whites deserve to suffer for it. My mother wont shut the fuck up how hard it is for young migrants to get jobs here yet is a complete fucking bitch towards me for not having a job yet.

No fucking way, what? I pay ~$7500 for myself, my wife, and our kid for our insurance through my job and we have breddy gud coverage.

and how much does your employer pay ?

Wow
I live in Saskatchewan and I can walk in and get immediate care. All white people too, no brownoids want to live here.
Sorry you live in a shithole province,,,? I gues?

wouldn't it be easier to assign a default a family doctor/post to each rural areas to prevent this?

its first come first served to get on the doctor lists. there are very few doctors located actually in the rural areas. the nearest one to me, if i was even on their books, is about 60km and takes an hour to get in. thats fine...but theres no way to get on their books lol

hospital should give water and a loaf of bread, that's it, 3 course meals and tea breaks is fucking retarded

incentivizing patients to eat is very important

completely mindbroken. amazing how these concepts have been inculcated into sp many peoples minds.

Around here, each family/local doctor is limited to only treating people physically living in his area, you cannot pick and choose, specialists are also locked in (larger) areas, so are image machines, government pharmacies... only emergency is first come, first served.

It's absolutely annoying to see some nigger mad after waiting in a line to be told: "you live eight neighborhoods from here, go there".

I hope you realize that the only reason you even have a healthcare system is that the feds mandated Ontario donates 2/3 of their doctors to you. The Prairies are uppity welfare provinces.

Funding for healthcare has been been increasing consistenly for decades we spend more per capita on healthcare than we ever have before. However health services continue to get worse, its time to accept that more funding won't fix systemic issues that far exceed a shortage of doctors. Until our health institutions accept this and make necessary changes we can expect that dempgraphic pressures will result in systemic collapse necessitating a complete rebuild. This will likely result in a privatized system as US companies swoop in to fill the gap and an end to public healthcare in Canada entirely.

you cannot pick and choose,

i guess we could choose to be on the books of a doctor 300 miles away, but why would you bother? its more that we dont have enough in any area to be able to have everyone on those doctors books. i could end up having to drive 2 hours for a simple doctor appointment if thats the space that becomes open.

Ontario takes money away from everybody

Act like a smug asshole when you decide to give some things back

Literal abusive relationship

I live in onterrible but I'm in a rural Conservative area. I really don't understand why Sask and Alberta haven't left yet with how our Fed Govt treats you.

the province that generates the largest amount of money for the country AND the largest amount of money per capita isn't entitled to its money or the doctors it pays to train because uhhhh

I know that Alberta has this weird psychosis about federal budget but I'm genuinely confused by it. You're like the 4th richest province at best and yet act offended that the 1st 2nd and 3rd richest provinces who pay for all your social programs also spend money on themselves. Do you just lie to yourselves all the time?

onterrible steals everything dumbass lol

Nurse became the goldilocks zone of jobs with low requirements on compentency education intelligence but perceived highish status. And decent pay So all the dumb bitches flocked to it

with how our Fed Govt treats you.

I'm in Onterrible as well. I have developed several mental illnesses that are currently undiagnosed do to living amongst the most horrible two faced people to ever exist with massive white guilt complexes.

his will likely result in a privatized system as US companies swoop in to fill the gap and an end to public healthcare in Canada entirely.

the lefties here will never allow it. they absolutely hate the idea that you can pay to get a better service then they can offer.

they absolutely hate the idea that you can pay to get a better service then they can offer.

Close. It's because if people start realizing they don't need big daddy goverment their communist utopia will be proven a lie. Also muh "I'm not American, I don't pay for healthcare!" even though every 3 years or so I see a local donation be put up to help pay some child to fight off cancer.

but guys, free healthcare is a human right

yeah until this happens
this is nothing new anon canadian healthcare and socialist healthcare in most immigration heavy countries is not working
Free market healthcare works when it is managed holistically and not by kikes

It’s shit because the interest on the debt now costs more than the money put back into the system (52B in debt payments a year vs. 50B in Canadian healthcare transfers, plus all the provinces are in major debt).
I had to wait over a year for an MRI for my injured spine.
It’s collapsed during COVID (it was already on its way but that was the final nail) and everyone is pretending it has not due to receiving their fake fiat, so they can eat. It doesn’t help that we let in so many people, with zero investment into public services.
People will tolerate a lot of bullshit, so long as they can eat.

agreed

wait over a year for an MRI

i tell this to people i know from abroad and they cant believe it. they dont believe that canada has so fucking few MRI machines and that so many of them are moved around by tractor-trailer and run pretty much 24/7 wherever they go.

Is there anything in between walk in clinics and the ER? I got into a car accident some time back and never bothered with getting to a doctor because there wasn't any proper options. Walk in clinics all seem to be immigrant doctors of questionable competence who just prescribe antibiotics I figured they'd just send me to the ER anyway. It wasn't serious So I wasn't willing to waste my whole day sitting in the ER for some doctor to tell me you're fine go take some Advil.

My mother wont shut the fuck up how hard it is for young migrants to get jobs here yet is a complete fucking bitch towards me for not having a job yet

There's something so perverse about this. Where your own mother would take the side of complete strangers than her own son. At first I tried to be charitable and assumed that boomers were merely out of touch and just have a hard time seeing how things are because of age or whatever. But after these last 5 years I refuse to believe anything else but the majority of people here have completely lost their minds, being mind broken from the media and education system and do not care for anything that happens

If you want to fix your country you have to hunt and kill peolle like this
Until then voted for it award

Is there anything in between walk in clinics and the ER?

dont know really. you can get some kinds of scans done in private clinics if thats what you wanted but if you dont have a family doctor to head to then yeah, walk in and ER is about it i think. here in NB theres a phone based thing where you will get to talk to a nurse and they can maaybe set you up an appointment at a hospital to save you sitting in ER all day, but no guarantees on that. depends what you need and who you get.

Where your own mother would take the side of complete strangers than her own son.

This happened a couple of times now. The worst thing is that my memory is starting to fade about these events, its just what the brain does sometimes to bad memories. So the pain remains of feeling betrayed but the memory for that reasoning will soon be gone.

I'm with Sam Hyde on this one. You don't make these people engineers and doctors. You put them in a fucking gas station.

t. Insider

And a vaccinated faggot as well. How many boosters did they force you to take? Enjoy the clots.