Explain to me logically why I, as a female, do not have the right to my own body

Not seeing very much logic thus far.

Shouldn't women be in favour of this? Why not use braindead women as incubators and surrogates?

black

society wants black child

It is Fiction.

What's the problem? The brain is gone, she's just a clump of cells.

She was already having a baby. Why do they assume she would want to kill her own child? Maybe she isn’t really “braindead” either

@grok

AI brain people

What rights are being infringed here exactly?

Women shouldn't have any physical autonomy to begin with because the sex would be better.

"The baby's body is connected to mine, and even though we'll be split someday, I am the sole decision maker as to what happens to it!"

Isn't there someone you forgot to ask? Daddy government needs his tax cattle! Alternatively, people actually care about life enough to try to save the baby.

How do you even frame this as unethical? If she is gone regardless, but there is a chance to save her child is that not the most basic of answers with our current technology being what it is?

right to die

Explain to me like I am a woman why men have no say in aborting a baby I created.

brain dead already, no chance of recovery

best kill the kid who will live a normal life if given the chance

only has to stay hooked up for 7 more months of brain inactivity

I'm pretty sure that the women would want her baby delivered instead of terminated simply because she's terminated, life finds a way etc. The left really are a death cult.

Can't speak for them but I don't see the point in keeping her alive here.

You literally do not have a right to take something and transform it by mysterious circumstances.

These ''people'' are completely insane.
This retard is actually trying to rage bait by saying they're keeping a child alive.

heh, this is just like in that shitty tv show where they kept a woman alive so her baby could be born...please get angry....

The only thing that sucks about this is that she is black.
Why wouldn't you keep the child alive?

kidnapped her body from her family

What the fuck even is this? Was her body supposed to go sit on the couch until she dies at the family home? Is the family fucking outraged that their family member is kept alive, upset shitting pissing their pants that the child may live? Do they want the child terminated immediately?
What the fuck is going on with these insane freaks? Surely even if you are an insane person who believes all children should be aborted you should understand that this may be a complicated legal issue and someone may have to make a ruling on who gets a say in whether or not the child gets to live. The hospital can't just kill the baby. The family can't just decide what happens to the child of a woman who can't consent to anything. A sane person could understand that there may need to be a ruling here and a legal precedent may need to be set for dealing with cases like this.

If you’re brain dead, and we can save a baby, isn’t that to your benefit?
Legit asking because I am confused here as to how it’s wrong to save a baby with modern medicine despite the mom pretty much being dead. What is the moral outcry here? This baby sure is made in your body, but half of it was given to you by a man.

Another black baby for a christian cuckservative to adopt

Because you're a female.

Yes, the pro-life people in Georgia want more black babies, that's just fact.

The entire crux of the issue is that it's similar to a scenario in a tv show that is pro-abortion propaganda.
There isn't anything actually wrong with what is happening, it's just like the scene from the show.

Data mining image

Because you clearly can't even understand a simple concept like brain dead.

Look mom I posted it again

yea, really not sure what people's problem with this is, really seems like the uncontroversially humane thing to do

Ah the famous "logic" of anons

no

as a female

the baby also has a right to its own body

why is this such a difficult concept? Are people that solipsistic?

Explain to me logically why I, as a female, do not have the right to my own body.

BECAUSE YOU NEVER HAD RIGHTS DUE TO THE FEMALE INABILITY TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY.

You exist to help.
If that means helping a child be born, then you WILL do that.

It will mean that you will cheerfully accept the fact that the 19th amendment should be immediately repealed.

Pregnant women are corporate beings, not individuals, and therefore do not deserve the rights of individuals.

1. A human is a homo sapiens organism.

2. The first stage of life of the homo sapiens is the zygote.

3. The zygote is a separate homo sapiens organism from its mother.

4. The fact that the zygote is dependent upon the mother for sustenance and growth does not mean that it is not a separate organism. In nature, a symbiotic organism is dependent on its host but is still a separate organism.

5. Ergo the woman has a separate human without her body. Unviolated and under normal circumstances that human would be born and grow to adulthood.

6. You do not have a right to kill other humans because you find their existence inconvenient. This leads us to the issue of "personhood".

6. A "person" is an arbitrary legal category defined by the government. Defining a fetus as a "non-person" is no different from defining a particular race as "non-persons". Both instances entail defining a group of humans (homo sapiens) as within a legal category that denies them any right to life.

7. If you want to define fetuses as "non-persons" and kill them, you should be honest about what you are doing. You want to kill a human because it is inconvenient to you in some way and you want to be legally protected while doing so.

I think that if the family is willing to pay to keep her on life support to save the baby, they should be allowed to. But if they don't want to pay, she should be allowed to pass away. We shouldn't be forced to pay for this.
So, This is absurd, really.

The point is the baby can live

The baby ISN'T HEALTHY THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS.

That baby is the textbook fucking case of one that MORALLY SHOULD BE ABORTED. It has an almost 100% chance of dying shortly after birth and if it DOES live it will 100% with horrible life ruining problems that the family of this dead woman will be saddled with for life because cunts like you don't give a shit about being "pro-life" the moment it's out of the womb.

We shouldn't have people with down syndrome running around like they're an ethnic group that needs to be protected. We should be proactively aborting pregnancies LIKE THIS ONE where we know without a shadow of a doubt that the life quality of the child will be an abyssmal hell where they are literally unable to do anything but be cared for by others.

if she's braindead then she can't consent to either outcome, so why are shitlibs so determined to pick the "kill them both" route and feel heroic for it?

Remember the episode in the Handmaid's Tale

Women are fucking child. “Remember in Harry Potter Voldemort only wanted magic people, that’s just like Trump”

Hahaha true

Last points should be 7 and 8. I added an extra one while I was writing and forgot to change the numbers.

Ridiculous cope. Hardly any men alive have done a fucking thing to "secure their rights". Or tell me, what right did you physically fight the government for that isn't given to everyone?

You will never be a woman

she's already brain dead who tf cares?

Men don't have bodily autonomy. We are required to sign up for drafts, sacrifice our lives for women & children, work like a dog until we are old & crippled.

Get off your ass and load the fucking dishwasher.

Why the fuck do you retards assume that a braindead woman is properly growing a baby? Why do you just ASSUME it's healthy without doing the slightest bit of looking into the situation? If you did you would have found that the baby has an almost certain chance of dying shortly after birth and a 100% chance of being fucked up far beyond the point of being able to live a normal life?

Jews and OP obliterated

I don't get what the problem is. They'd be fine with them scooping her organs out, right? Then shut the fuck up about them keeping them where they are.
What a fucking stupid thing to be upset about.

NOOOO YOU CAN'T ALLOW MY UNBORN BABY TO BE BORN EVEN THOUGH I'M IN A COMA

YOU HAVE TO KILL IT, NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

What the fuck is wrong with women holy shit

Because you're not capable of Human thought.

its not your body dumbass bitch, its someone else body

My forefathers in the American Revolution slaughtered enough British soldiers to secure them for me. Those rights continue today because those who wish to take them do not the power to do so.

all that effort to save a nigger
thank you southerners

Add on we don’t have befit of just marrying some rich ass who will pay for our shit like women do. No such thing as women simps. When Brad Pitt was dressed as a chicken for El Pollo Loco to make money he wasn’t getting stacies not matter how well he looked

We should kill things that have a chance of being unhealthy!

noo you can't just kill fat people, homeless, trannies and the resf

I am realizing the big divide in this conversation is actually boiling down to you retards having only the most surface level, headline glance idea of the situation.

THE BABY IS NOT WHAT ANY DOCTOR WOULD CALL HEALTHY OR VIABLE.

what makes you think the brain plays any substantial role in the development of a fetus?
do you think the mother has to think the baby's organs into existence?

OP asked a generalized question and did not specifically ask about the situation in the pic, so they got answers to what they asked.

THE BABY IS NOT WHAT ANY DOCTOR WOULD CALL HEALTHY OR VIABLE.

Okay so?

Because you have no autonomy.

Why do babies need to be born healthy?

Next time you get sick or fat we'll throw you in the human juicer instead.

The woman in question is brain dead, she's not forced to do anything. You can't kidnap a dead person.
Women are retarded.

She's a perfect incubator, just let her finish her biological job. Feminists being mad is a bonus. Yes I am from r9k how could you tell.

When that chance is so close to 100% that they can't really fathom another scenario besides death or being permanently fucked up, yes.

So why exactly do you desperately want a crippled nigglet to be born?

This isn't "it's gonna be born a little thin" it's "This baby will either immediately die or be an indian god tier monstrosity for its short life"

Christians consider brain dead people alive.

Should a chicken on a farm have rights to their body? Stupid question.

if you ever go into a coma im going to re-enact weekend at bernie's with your body, performing all kinds of hilarious slapstick goofs

What does Christian considerations bring to the table when this is in fact a point given by the pro-choice and their morality?
A brain dead person can't have a choice, retard.

You never made it, neither did your father or mother, you belongs to the universe, all your base are ours LOL

When that chance is so close to 100% that they can't really fathom another scenario besides death or being permanently fucked up, yes

Except we already don't do thay for people who risk getting sick let alone already are sick. You're brain dead too

So why exactly do you desperately want a crippled nigglet to be born?

That's not the question, faggot. You're talking about a very specific case. I'm talking about it in principle.
What's wrong with a "braindead" (bullshit, btw) woman in a coma giving birth?

t. ranny
People are addressing the insane woman who made an issue out of this, not the actual case. No one is obligated to do their homework and track down what the actual case is about.
The tweet doesn't mention the baby being fucked up, so that's not an issue up for discussion. Her objection is that children should be murdered and not one word was used to talk about any problems the baby has.

In a systematic review of 35 cases where maternal somatic support was provided after brain death, 77% of fetuses were born alive. Of these, about 85% had a normal outcome at 20 months of life, while 6% had neurological sequelae, and another 6% died in the neonatal period.

I cannot wait to pay for that little nigger!
Abortion should be free and easy in poor neighborhoods.

TOGTFO

What makes you think you deserve rights?

Source?

British already had rights you moron. America fought for independence to keep slavery.

Britain was in the process of phasing out slavery and the colonists, with pro-slavery Napoleonic France wanted to keep the slave trade going.

even if this was the correct answer (it is, but they'll never admit this). the correct answer to "women" is "you did have rights to your body, you let someone else cum in you, and now you're suffering the consequences of your actions"

America fought for independence to keep slavery.

And?

if you had such a right you would have been born a man

plot twist:
he was born as a man

The only right a woman should have is to fucking move to Saudi Arabia.

You have a right to your body but a brain dead person cannot possibly agree to an abortion.

Aborting a few month of diseased fetus is not the same as killing a living person with developmental disabilities.

We should be screening pregnancies and aborting those at high risk of creating these problems.

I don't give a shit about the brain dead woman's bodily autonomy and that's not at any point the position I'm arguing from. I'm arguing from the point that EUGENICS IS GOOD AND WE SHOULD BE CULLING MORE WORTHLESS PREGNANCIES.

I don't give a shit about retarded christkike every soul is sacred bullshit. Society is worse because people aren't willing to press the easily pushed button that would basically end the majority of things like down syndrome, muscular atrophy problems and so on.

For every hawking, who wasn't even that special, you have thousands, probably tens to hundreds of thousands, of people who will do nothing but suffer and financially ruin their families.

Or maybe you'd be in favor of more tax breaks, monetary assistance, and in general free unrestricted resources going to support these broken people since you care so much about making sure they get a good shot at life?

Why is this supposed to be a problem, again?

Negress is braindead

Niglet grows inside her

Retards decide to keep the negress alive so the baby doesn't die

Now as much as I wouldn't mind them unplugging her I don't see how the negress is suffering in any way? It's not as if she could even say "No, I don't want you to keep me alive so this niglet can one day slurp down grape drank and dig in to some KFC"

Yea he's just being a nigger faggot until the state of unborn is given by the hospital. Until then people need to stop feeding the troll.

The lengths we go to to keep niggers alive.

Not seeing tits and a timestamp so far

The baby ISN'T HEALTHY THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS.

If that’s true, then you should be leading with that. It isn’t mentioned once by the people in the OP and thus I’m going to continue judging them as if they don’t have that information either.

Well there's no such thing as rights but in most of America I think you can get an abortion if that's what you're talking about.

does this woman really believe that negress would rather her baby die with her, instead of being born? i refuse to believe that these are real people

as a female

No tits posted but do go on.

explain to me

Ok...

why is do not have the right to my own body

We just don't want you killing children. It literally is a very simple ask.

Because you're under the Aryan princess delusion

That's my first post in the thread, anon, I did lead with it.

Fake articles and headlines are posted here constantly I don't understand why you guys are so averse to the most bare minimum google search to understand something before spouting off.

Or maybe you'd be in favor of more tax breaks, monetary assistance, and in general free unrestricted resources going to support these broken people since you care so much about making sure they get a good shot at life

That's already happening. I dont get a say in it, i don't get to turn it off. So live, cunts. You don't get to take my money AND kill them

Mother of child becomes braindead

SLAY THE CHILD WTH HER ZAZAZA REKITHRAX AHAJAZAZAJZAJZAVEXTRIMAX!"

It's not happening at nearly high enough level to give a lot of these people actual "decent" quality of life and you're clearly upset it's happening at all.

You want them to be born and then don't want to have to allow any tax money to go to these people? Why? You just want them to have a shitty existence because "God's plan" or some retarded bullshit?

Aborting a few month of diseased fetus is not the same as killing a living person with developmental disabilities.

You're right, it's even worse since risk of disability is not the same as already having a disability

fpbp

Pull the cord, there's enough niggers already.

Because you, like all of us here, are a slave.

Because women do not have the right to abdicate humanity.

Women do not have natural rights, they are just granted civic privileges. That you feel ownership over your body is an illusion afforded to you by the mercy of men. The mercy of men is also what is compelled to saving a child in a braindead woman.

Explain to me logically why I, as a female, do not have the right to my own body.

You have a right to fucking live and your baby does too. You are telling me the humane thing is to... kill people? Do you listen to yourself?

Explain to me logically why I, as a female, do not have the right to my own body.

Well first thing to address is that you'll never be a woman, troon. Bummer that your "laws" and pronouns can't stop male pattern baldness or change your chromosomes.

How much money is this bullshit costing taxpayers? $1M, $2M? Fucking republishit Bible thumping fanatics FFS.

cunts like you don't give a shit about being "pro-life" the moment it's out of the womb.

you stop being pro life when we aren’t trying to kill the baby anymore

Is this supposed to be an own? Fucking idiot

There should be no more females.
sage... and KYS

Pretty sure that person was dead 100% not comatose.

Although a German themed weekend at bernie's movie would be hilarious in an antihumor type of way lol. I'd watch it.

I read up on this and the physicians were telling the family that the baby MIGHT have fluid in its brain and MIGHT have issues afterwards. It's not a given as often children have a bit of fluid in the brain until a later stage of gestation.
The major issue the family has is that they weren't given a choice, whilst not saying clearly that they'd have ended life support if they could. The other issue is that the life support costs is eating up their finances. While on surface level this is made out to be pro life Vs anti life quarrel, the real underlying problem is again that the US health care is insanely third world and expensive, and that hospitals readily go along with mandates if it brings them cash. It's a legal grey with this woman and the fetus, so of course they opt for what will continue the cash flow.

Checked

I did lead with it

And this information comes from where? You have had 8 opportunities to prove it

I dont think slavery was as much of an issue as you think. French and American revolution was about taxes and wealth disparity, not you angelic niggers you roach nigger.

for every hawking

The guy who didn’t become a cripplr until he was in his 20s? Fucking moron. You are so stupid! By your own logic you have no excuse but to kill yourself right this instant.

While on surface level this is made out to be pro life Vs anti life quarrel, the real underlying problem is again that the US health care is insanely third world and expensive

Interesting. I can only imagine how expensive this is going to be.

FFS, the final straw will be the kid will be brain damaged ward of the state for life in high needs 24/7 nursing home care - how many millions will that add to the millions already spent? WTF happened to doge saving money when they are doing this shit to preserve dysgenic vegetables.

Yes third world countries are known for the miraculous capability to birth a child from a vegetable. You people have no idea how retarded and childish you sound with these hysterics. German healthcare may be cheaper than the US (arguable given your taxes) but our actual care is leaps and bounds better.

It’s better for you to suffer a horrible injury in the US than Germany. Full stop. Your treatment will be better. Brown people and teenagers (You) are too self centered to consider that not all recoveries are the same.

healthy baby

fermenting in a dead body

surprised Anon Babble isnt automatically advocating for pulling the plug because shes a black woman and theyre forcing another black baby into this world

Oh no the brain dead nigger can't die. What about BLM? Most conscious niggers are close to braindead already.

Zero evidence the baby will be any more retarded than any other nigger

This is the real crux. I'm prolife, however I'm also pro "my tax dollars spent on things myself and others will benefit from". Keeping a veggie I've on my tax dollars is a huge FUCK NO. However, if the people in charge of her autonomy are paying for it, I don't care.

As for the child, this is truly a tragedy with no simple answer and too many nuances for quick ruling.

Perhaps he went a bit far with the "third world" comment but that's not license to ignore his overall point that the hospital can just choose to break this family over their knee financially at their own discretion. Fuck whatever you think is worse in germany completely.

Brain dead*

This thread is full of morons

Brain dead isn't dead. Her unconscious body processes are still running, and presumably, the baby would grow normally. I just don't understand their logic behind killing the kid.

surprised Anon Babble isnt automatically advocating for pulling the plug because shes a black woman and theyre forcing another black baby into this world

whatever you think is worse

Yes, the actual treatment by the doctor is “whatever.” This is why no one in your life takes you seriously. No responsibilities, everything is just hypotheticals on paper for you.

Guess what country sells Germany most of its medical tech

A totally different discussion and one that would need to be more broadly applicable

She's brain dead. That means she's effectively dead as a human. She's a meat sac now, so the fetus rights should take priority.

The question is who "raped" that body and knocked it up?

how do doctors test if someone is brain dead?

tickle their foot

poke with needle

OK THEY ARE DEAD TIME TO HARVEST THEIR ORGANS!

This is how the medical industry operates. Leftists want to kill the baby so doctors can sell more parts.

What the fuck are you even babbling about with this pseudo pathological claptrap?

presumably

it'll certainly be a test to see if it truly is a viable and moral decision

A totally different discussion

lel

What do they want them to do? Just let her die along with the baby? Fucking monsters.

There is no waking up from brain death. It is as final as actual death. It is not the same as a coma.

The baby is brain dead too.

Explain to me logically why I, as a female, do not have the right to my own body

because of Georgia state law

All life support should be illegal. We should not allow anyone who is brain dead to be kept "alive" by machinery, this is deeply evil. Both the mother and fetus should be allowed to die.

It’s not your body, it’s the babys

Do you think women have to be conscious to make children or something lol? Life isn't a video game dude, there's no quick time event foids have to do every day to grow a baby.

Omg the mom won’t make it better kill the baby too goys cuz allowing the husband to have a child after his wife passed is wrong, unless he gives it to a gay couple then it’s fine

She's in a coma and has no say, so that should be her family's choice.

-because the fetus is a male.
maybe the father doesnt want to lose his child too?
-its a soul trying to enter this world, building its body up.

Based and true. History and current events prove this. You should not nor have you proven that you deserve to have autonomy.

Who's paying the millions for this process + potential millions for a brain damaged person life long care? If you are writing this check with tax dollars, you can never complain again about any form of gov welfare spending.

Then the state of Georgia has decided to waste a lot of money on a stillbirth over their religious beliefs. And one assumes that these represent the beliefs of the majority.

The pinnacle of your achievements in the free world is fighting to kill your unborn children and being a whore

You make bad choices
Historically bad

Every civilization has put constraints on their rights for a reason. The west is going to learn the hard way

Fuck you. Get sent to the frontlines
Die for your country instead of undermining it

What does that have to do with what's happening though? If you think retards and disableds should always be aborted then that's true whether the mom is a veggie or not, right?

And if the woman is actually brain dead then what's the matter with keeping her hooked up if it might save the baby? It's just a corpse that has a machine pumping O2 and fluids though it.

But, I suspect she isn't actually braindead in the clinical sense, more likely she's in a coma that she's not likely to recover from. The media uses the term so ubiquitously for both conditions that it's unlikely that it's even available information in any article.

A truly brain dead patient is actually dead. There's a machine making it's chest rise and fall but otherwise it's already dead, like it will start rotting if they don't take it off the machines and get it to the morgue. I don't see how the baby could possibly still be alive if the women is dead.

this is so fucked up and dystopian.. they're keeping her alive so her baby can be born and her family line can continue..
instead of just fucking slaughtering the piece of shit baby
so fucked up bros
so immoral and fucked up. Truly a handmaids tale.

Men give women rights

OMG WHY ARE WOMEN EXERCISING THEIR RIGHTS NOOO

Every law ever made limits what someone can do with their body. Usually to prevent them harming other people.

TITS
OR
GTFO

I, as a taxpayer, have to write not to have to be enthralled and enslaved by the state to finance your righteous indignation either. You opening your wallet to cover the millions involved in covering your claims?

She is as alive as someone who was cremated anon, this is evil

Yes, third world countries can perform endless life support in private clinics at a high cost. That's the issue.

Nigger notwithstanding, I support murdering both if the baby is a femoid.

This anon already answered your question but you're just pretending to be retarded, right?

That's no reason for the baby to die, thanks to the miracle of science. I'm sure she would agree.

Do they just enjoy killing babies?

Yes. Especialy sacrifices to Moloch

You have to admire their ideological purity. In school, they put on a play featuring a young German boy growing up as a Hitler Youth. At one point, they gave him a puppy and he took care of it. Then later, they said he had to kill that puppy to prove he would obey orders. This situation reminds me of that apocryphal tale. The total lack of hesitation in the leftist to fucking murder children in the name of feminism.

Don't give the controls to the trolley problem to liberals.

No she wouldn't because she is dead. A baby in the womb without a brain in the mother will lead to a horrible outcome for the child. The child wont learn communication, as the mothers brain is not communicating. This is evil.

Where is the source for your statement? Or did you just make it up?

I have the right to my own body.

This is such a farcical and stupid notion that only a woman would believe it.

You have to pay taxes. This is money that is earned through the work of your body. If you don't pay the taxes, people come and take your body and put it in jail. Men are subject to the draft. That means that your body gets taken to a war zone, and your body might get shot or blown to pieces. If you're doing something suspicious, a police officer can come and order your body to stand still. If you don't follow lawful orders, then the police officer can harm your body or shoot your body and kill it. If you're under the age of 21, you're not allowed to put alcohol inside your body. If you're under the age of 18, your body isn't allowed to have sex or be photographed naked. You're not even allowed to take photographs of your own naked body. When you die, your body will need to be disposed of in a correct manner that respects the shared cultural understanding of the dignity of a dead person as well as environmental and public health considerations.

All of this is because you don't own your body. You have never owned your body. You have never met a person who owns their body. This is a fucking dumb talking point.

Because you gave yourself to a man.
Unless you were raped you gave your body to a man.

You seriously think that mother wants her unborn child to die just because she died?

Do they just enjoy killing babies?

Yes but also in this case the baby isn’t viable and it seems will be deformed if it even makes it. Doesn’t make sense to try and bring it to term. If it was like a healthy 20 week old and you just needed to keep the mother alive for a few weeks maybe

This is just objectively not true. Wake up. Spouting deranged shit like this doesn’t help your case

They should pull the pug on the little niglet.

You probably signed up to have your organs donated at death dumb cunt

Define evil.

declared braindead

That's just another way of saying took an IQ test.

she was brain dead from birth like every nigger

Baby gonna come out all fucked up

I am pro abortion, but I do not see a problem with depicted situation. If familly want this kid it is a good thing to do and allow braindead body to give birth.

First of all, you’re a guy, so jot that down.

I agree wholeheartedly - like the mother no doubt would do.

Luckily babies and mothers don’t share one brain - the baby’s (own/autonomous) brain will absorb what its grandparents and other family members say and communicate in the room.

Who's fucking paying for this virtue signaling?

do you have a gun to protect it?

Why the fuck do you retards assume that a braindead woman is properly growing a baby?

isn't this implying that there aren't any braindead women?

You have right to *your* body. Le bebe is not your body.

But here is the more pressing question: why is the only thing women care about is their ability to kill their unborn? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Holy smokes.

she's black

Lets talk about how wrong this is...

No one who argues for abortion with a bare minimum of public support argues for eugenic abortion.
That talk about giving women free pass on killing their children because not only they can't keep their legs closed but also they are too lazy to give birth

Why do you assume she isn't?

Leftists love trying to brainwash people with false analogies.

Because we don't want to waste nine months to give birth to a retard that will need care 24/7. That's a nightmare and a burden for everyone.

Because males don't have it and get circumcised on an industrial scale.

What Grok forgets to mention is tha the women WANTED TO HAVE THE KID so she consented to this implicitly.

The baby is essentially fed by doctors through IV, and is going to have better nutrition than 99.9999% of baby niggers.

He's a future Michael Jordan or Neil deGrasse Reddit.

Do they just enjoy killing babies?

Yes, at last you finally see. They also want to kill the baby of a woman who wanted to give birth to her child. And now through the miracle of science she will be able to, despite being legally brain dead. Its actually an incredible, inspiring story. Which is my the moloch devil worshipers seek to invert it and present it as the ultimate evil.

she may have had some sort of living will. Many people specifically document that they do not want to be kept alive in a vegitative state like this.

can't bear and raise children without societal help

society has expectations

undermine society so that it embraces female hedonism

society starts breaking down

There sure are alot of problems with these incels, amiright girls?

No, and that mentality proves how fucking useless you and the rest of modern women have become. You have one job, and you fail at doing it spectacularly.

yeah bro lets spend a million tax payer dollar keeping a brain damaged black baby alive really great usage of public fund, fucking idiot

Why the fuck wouldn't you do this? Did the woman even say she didn't want to have her baby or was she all excited to be a Mother then a horrible tragedy befell her and now these brain damaged pozzed liberals are circling like vultures trying to murder her baby.

Did someone rape you and impregnate you against your will? That's already illegal. Your choice is to not get pregnant by practicing abstinence.

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Fine, if you think it needs to live, you fucking take care of it.

So...this woman is dead, no debate. Okay.

And people are trying to make the argument that it would be good to take her off life support and kill her unborn child rather than let the child have a shot a life? People are sick and I hope a cleansing fire kills all abortionists.

killing children isn't a right roastie

Logic

Women

Lmao

do not have the right to my own body.

We live in a highly advanced, legalistic society, if you live in a state where something is illegal and you do that thing, you just broke the law

B-B-B-B-B-BUT M-M-M-M-MUH BODY!!1

Screeching MY BAWDY does not invalidate a law, if you are 20 weeks pregnant and you live in a state that bans abortions after 16 weeks (with exceptions, rape, incest etc) thems the brakes
No abortion for you
Those laws that you dont like are the result of elections
If you want different laws, convince people of the rightness of your policy positions, vote for candidates that support your position and they will change the laws if they are able to take office
Or, better yet, run for office yourself
Otherwise, keep the nonsense about "universal human rights" and "women's rights" to yourself

In cases where a pregnant woman is declared brain dead, it is possible to prolong the pregnancy through somatic support and life support measures, sometimes for extended periods. This can lead to the delivery of a healthy baby, as demonstrated in several cases, including the Czech Republic case where a baby was born 117 days after the mother's brain death

Every single fucking thing you "people" advocate for is based on lies. You should be confined to sanitariums and lobotomized.

Not your body. Is the body of another human.

Because you're too stupid to have them.

They offered abortions for rape and incest and you said NO.
Too bad so sad you reap what you sew.

It's in my body. I should be able to remove it regardless of whether it lives or dies.

kek

Ok, but your child is not your body, so what's the problem?

Yeah, but they saw a similar situation in a TV show and it was portrayed like it was a horrifying, dehumanizing ordeal, therefore the left thinks they have the full morality in this situation.

the doctors body is also not your body, how can you force him to do something under penalty of law?

This case wouldn't be if you had the rights to your body but your family. You should have done that before hand as she is an adult. Life is cruel and unfortunate that way sometimes. But in this case it's not that it's your body. Your body belongs to the child and to cut it off or send it out would disservice the child.

I should be able to remove it regardless of whether it lives or dies

You don't get to do whatever you want with other people's bodies. Besides, you put it there in the first place.

You don't have a right to murder so fuck off.

The family is keeping her body alive so her husband can raise their child. I don’t see why this is a discussion

Gunpoint

Yes. They get a kick out of murdering babies. Kind of fucked up.

You're outgunned lol.

Are you fucking high or something?

It doesnt matter where it is you retarded cunt. Is not your body is another human. Stop with the 'its my body' shit.

America is a communist country.
Citizens have no rights.

Not if I bring in a team of gunwomen. My family will back me up.

no, you think you have a right to the doctors body and work. You are morally bankrupt authoritarian retard

Citizens have the right to be a nigger and get pregnant.

So it's cool if I kill myself?

the scene in the photo is pure evil

that didn't happen in the book. did it happen in the sequel? i know atwood is still alive. did she have anything to do with the writing of the show.

Yes, you are and you'd just get all your fellow skanks killed.

right to my own body

You do

No because you would be killing somebody else too!
Fucking room temperature iq...

Then why does the mother hold all the power? If she kills herself, the baby dies too. How is she not the one making the calls?

Wtf that's a guy.

You are welcome to kill yourself at any time.

it's satanic

I can kill somebody so i have right to do it

Women logic

Cool we'll all just kill ourselves then if we get pregnant. You'll get a sausage fest society.

Explain to me logically why I, as a male, shouldn't start murdering women for their hypocrisy. Ted Bundy is a fucking saint compared to bitches.

Lol, why wait?

Well I believe abortion should be mandatory for Jews blacks and spics

Dems want the right to murder children that aren't theirs.

Because you could murder a pregnant woman and then you'd be no better than a woman.

She's got a point

In my experience,most black women are braindead, how is this any different?

Because as your pic shows, you are brain dead.

That's got nothing to do with rights, she's a vegetable.

You sound like a guy.
And women making this argument are no better than serial killers.
The "right" to their body at the expense of others.

Babies can't advocate for themselves, they require their Mother to do that which is why they live in the womb - to form a bond strong enough that the Mother will fight to the death to defend her helpless child until such a time when they can defend our advocate themselves. That's why all abortion talking points are designed to divorce the Mother from connecting to her child.

Then why isn't anyone talking about who's footing the bill? We're looking at a half mil+ hospital bill. No anti-abortionist likes talking about the money part.

The baby is gonna be brain damaged at best and completely disabled at worst

Do you have any proof of this?

How come abortion is bad but it's okay to kill dogs and pigs? Dogs and pigs have way more self-awareness than any baby.

a million tax payer dollar

Get a new health system. They come with foreskins.

because you voted for socialism, and under socialism you do not have private property, that includes yourself
you asked for this, you wanted this, now deal with living like this

Imagine having to compare human beans to puppies to make a point about why killing them is good. Are you a lizard?

they would say it is not a child, it is a clump of snot, basically.

If you knowingly place another body into your own, including through negligence, their life has equal or greater value to your own as you are the aggressor. You can make no claim of self-defense in removing them and must also not endanger them further through your actions, and we as a society are duty-bound to enforce this until they can be safely removed.

The abortion "debate" is so fucking easy. You either view a fetus as human (it is) and believe in the conventional definition of self-defense, in which case you can input all of this into a truth table; or you're simply too stupid and/or deranged to engage in reasonable discussion, in which case you must comply or go to jail.

A baby inside you is not your body. Do you think pregnant women have 20 fingers and 20 toes?

No. I'm saying why does species matter? It should be about intellectual ability.

anti-abortionist

It's not an abortion issue, the mother never requested an abortion and isn't in a state to now. The responsibility now goes to her next of kin and State.

One, because you are of one of those species so it does matter. Unless you are a lizard.
Two, babies will grow into humans that have way more intellectual capacity than a dog.
Any more dumb questions that a child could deduce?

I agreed with the retarded feminist. Kill the nigger lady and the nigger baby. Also, kek of she's braindead, she's a black woman.

I don't give a shit if it's a child, if it can't feed itself, it doesn't have a right to life. Forcing anyone to take care of such a being is slavery.

if it can't feed itself, it doesn't have a right to life

This isn't the same as you having the right to kill it, you fucking stupid nigger.

No, her next of kin doesn't have the legal right to pull the plug because it would constitute abortion by Georgia law. But who's fucking paying for this?Some, like the one being discussed, won't. We can't presume and go by what-ifs.

the state will waste millions to keep a dead nigger alive to give birth to another dindu

Why?

you can't just ASSUME it's healthy without doing the slightest bit of looking into the situation

anyways I'm going to just ASSUME it's unhealthy without doing the slightest bit of looking into the situation

Your retardation aside, the body must be kept alive until we can ascertain whether the baby is healthy or not anyways.

So we can just leave it in the middle of the park and it's all good? That sounds much more ethical than euthanasia.

Because pro-lifers are genuinely insane.

I don't give a shit if it's a child, if it can't feed itself, it doesn't have a right to life

Anon advocates for killing every child under 5 years old.

if it can't feed itself it doesn't have a right to life

holy fuck women are fucking retarded

If she's braindead, what's the problem? It's not like she's experiencing any suffering anyway, right? If there's nothing wrong with killing her, I don't see why there'd be something wrong using her as an incubator

because you keep using it for suicidally stupid shit

Women can't into logic so it'd be a waste of time. All you really need to understand is you shouldn't have rights because of my previous statement of truth.

that pic

You should listen to this bad boy

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"Starship Troopers" the novel is very different from the popular film adaptation directed by Paul Verhoeven. Its much better.

tl;rd Paul Verhoeven was a fag and wanted to make satire

No, her next of kin doesn't have the legal right to pull the plug because it would constitute abortion by Georgia law.

I said responsibility not right. You can't ethically perform an abortion on someone who never requested it.

But yes it is a waste of cash for the government.

One year olds can feed themselves.
Because it's gonna cost someone over half a million dollars to run the incubator.

Morally you'd certainly have a much easier time arguing that. However, that would be criminal negligence. You can give your child up for adoption, but until you do, you are legally responsible for its safety.

Feel free to argue that point from a moral perspective, I might even agree with you, never really engaged. I'd certainly find it more interesting than abortion in consensual sex which is open-and-shut, literal truth table-tier babbies first debate shit.

So it's ethical to pull the plug then? Tell that to the state of Georgia.

It's black it was already brain damaged.

What if nobody will take it?