Starting to become an alcoholic. I am in the early stages and I know where I am headed. Quite spooky. What are the political implications of Gen Z hating alcohol? How did they avoid this? What will an alcohol free society look like in the future? Can big alcohol turn it around and turn zoomers into drinkers eventually?
Alcoholism
anyone who needs a substance to alleviate baseline dysphoria with existence is deficient in something either from within or external
stop drinking, it is terrible for your health and your relationships
GenZ is simple drug addict.
huge insight there pal. epic
which relationships exactly and health yeah well
what drugs?
Lost my mom to that shit last month, if that's the fate you wanna suffer, than you do you.
You can't drink alcohol when you're in heavy psychological meds.
Quit now while it's spooky, or soon you'll get to the point where you're comfortable with it and don't give a fuck and crack a beer at 8am on the weekends and keep drinking all day
it gets bad, then it gets worse, then it gets bad, then it gets worse ~25 years of witnessment
Underage fag. Come back in 5 years of heavy drinking and tell us if alcohol still makes you feel good.
It's easy to stop being an alcoholic when the effects stop being positive, you'll see. It was fun for me too 15 years ago.
Switch to weed. I'm about to smoke some myself.
Fell asleep this afternoon and ever since I woke up I've been feeling down.
Even then there is still time to turn back, it's when you need a drink the first thing when you wake up every day to keep the shakes at bay, that's when you're fucked.
Synthetic mostly.
Also cannabis as air and energy drinks as water.
After these be surprised if they dont need alcohol.
You mean like the entire population of Europe since ancient times?
You must be bored out of your mind daily to drink for 25 years and still consider alcohol a good alternative to just being sober. Or maybe you got hit with the good booze enjoyer genes who knows
The fact gen z is currently abstaining from alcohol during their youth will just mean we will have more sloppy and lost drunks in 15-30 years. It's a double edge sword when every midwit (You included) thinks it's one-sided.
Better be addicted to weed than alcohol.
Yes you can, but you’ll really fuck your life up.
Quit before you destroy your life. Trust me.
Quit drinking altogether. It's the easies and best way to deal with alcohol.
This.. I was at the crack one at 8 am and drink all day stage for 6 months.. switched to kratom which killed my desire to drink. Switched to 7oh like a retard and am currently weening off that. But I drink maybe once a month now
nah its my dad although ive had issues with alcohol not in two or three years since i attended a good AA place
you switched to an opioid retard ive seen people coming off kratom and that shit looks just as bad as the guys coming off fentanyl
maybe you got hit with the good booze enjoyer genes
I got those. I am the nicest, happiest drunk who never gets violent. It's nice to have a drink with dinner, and I do it almost every day. It dumb though, will admit.
Kratom is an opioid!!!
Lmao. What youve "seen" people come off of is 7oh. Retard
I feel you broseph. I used to be a pothead until i learned alcohol is stronger and better. Do you drink beer or liquor? It sounds retarded but forcing yourself to consume the lowest ABV shit will be very helpful
It's funny that people need AA for something that I genuinely no longer enjoy doing.
Alcohol has a built in anti-addiction mechanism the more you drink the less fun it becomes. Same for cigarettes, maybe I'm just cursed to not enjoy anything oh well.
Everyone finds there own ways but don't forget anything that is mind altering/addictive is why you're in this mess in the first place.
or liquor?
gin mostly
It dumb though
Nah it's fine. If I could enjoy alcohol again I'd do this as well. People will say you're an alcoholic for drinking on a daily basis, but real alcoholics wake up and down a bottle of vodka to stop the shakes.
We're a long way from that.
Beer basically is forcing you to water it down 4-8 parts to 1 which will immediately hamper your ability to actually kill yourself with it
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Hops are psychoactive. They make you sleepy and relaxed.
whatever you say broke junkie
same with me, alcohol always makes me feel great and I can down a 6 pack and be fine the next day
problem is that won’t last much longer no matter how easy it is now
Their music didn't tell them to drink. It told them to do benzos and opiates. If they get fucked up, it's on benzos and opiates.
How did they avoid this?
Weed. Shit is so prevalent now that young people with no money have decided to do that instead of the thing that fucks you up to the point where you can't function and destroys families.
sober 3 months. Stop now while you still can. It sucks when you get to the point of HAVING to drink every day to avoid withdrawals. And at that point your stomach and liver is fucked up and your constantly feeling like shit. Otherwise you'll end up having to go to detox to get off that poison as the withdrawals can kill you. I am so happy to be free from that shit. Feels so much better waking up every day feeling like i hadn't slept a bit and feeling like shit all day.
Weed is terrible. I used to smoke weed for 2-3 years daily over 10 years ago. It was terrrible. I hate everything about weed. Just makes me tired, hungry, i watch some stupid youtube videos and get fascinated by radar scans in south america. fuck that shit. i want to drink and have fun.
You posted this same thread with the same pic last week.
You’re not German, you’re juden or Eglin.
no i did not. i googled the pic just now.
problem is that won’t last much longer
Chances are if you keep this up you won't be able to get drunk from a 6 pack.
And when you do you'll notice it's not actually fun anymore, just different than being sober.
Beer is the best choice. Moderation is key with anything.
What happened? Whats end stage like? Did she drink till the end or did she get clean but her liver was already too far gone?
Why didn't yall get her help? Btw sorry for your loss bro, seriously man.
>maybe you got hit with the good booze enjoyer genes
not sure if i did. i
I hate alcohol but it helps my insomnia tho, makes me fall asleep switfly
Weed is for lazy monkeys. Pipe Tobacco is the successful man’s choice.
the problem with beer is that you have to drink so much of it and its a lot of sugar, calories. i don't like it that much. i can drink a few glasses of gin tonic and consume 1--1.5L of liquid and it is way better than 4 beers which would equal 2 Liters or something.
the sleep is not good. at least admit that. i drank a lot last week and barely slept.
This. I had lots of great times drinking before I was addicted. Then I got to the point where I started drinking everyday for YEARs. did a lot of damage but am now sober. Thank god. Had to go to detox and use librium to get off that shit.
Alcohol is a system of control, here in America it was used to control slaves.
Brother, take Shahada and establish Salat. I am a Shia Muslim of German ethnicity and Islam is the Truth and very good for you.
A habit of prayer will bring soberness and discipline in your life. It will keep you accountable to God five times a day.
This is the path to freedom for the individual and our society at large.
Jesus commands monotheism in Luke 4:8. The Injil, Gospel, is a part of Islam.
Islam will cause a change in your soul, you will have peace, your desire for intoxication will leave you.
I am a Shia Muslim of German ethnicity
do us all a favor and kill yourself.
I'm a functional alcoholic. I've been dry for two days and the first day is a kward. The second day feels fantastic. I'm focused, sharp, slept well, etc. I'm sure I'll fuck up soon, but give yourself a few sober days to remember how fantastic it is.
Weed amplifies what's already there, you sound like you just kind of suck in general.
A habit of prayer will bring soberness and discipline in your life. It will keep you accountable to God five times a day.
Now that you said, this makes a lot of sense and seems like a major way for improvement.
look at me I'm so cool drinking alcohol
You need a slap to your face. Grow the fuck up you pathetic ape.
Intense exercise will stave off the withdrawal symptoms. Yet another reason exercise is the magic elixir.
What gets me usually is at about the 2 week point of being sober, when my body starts feeling really good again. That's when every cell in my body is telling me to drink since it's been a part of nearly all my joyful activities since I was 19. Then I get a low grade depression. This is what makes me drink again. Everything seems lame and boring.
I've pushed through this point in the past. I've done 3-6 months several times, but man it's scary how tough it's become. I think I'm scared killing that part of myself entirely. But I need to move on. I'm at the stage in life where if I keep drinking it will become a life defining problem, if it hasn't already, and I cannot let that happen.
huge insight there pal. epic
which relationships exactly
kek
shut up. i know a million weed addicts. all of them are coping and in denial. the worst problem with weed is the subtly of it. you become CONTENT in life. thats why many of them never do anything outside of just smoking their stupid ass weed. they don't realize how shit their fucking life is cause they are content all the time and just accept it all. weed is cringe.
Is is 'spooky', or are you comfortable with that prospect? Do you *not* want to be an alcoholic? Cos if so, you can always just stop drinking. I mean, you sound like a grown man with your own brain and two hands and two balls, so you can always like, not drink, if you really wanna. You can actually do that, especially considering how you are actually conscious of it happening, and thus have the ability to nip it the bud.
However if you do want it, then you're just gay. Alcoholism is shit, be a methhead and get way more shit done, while feeling at least 10x better, all while not literally dying from organ failure when you go through withdrawals.
cannabis, stimmies (prescription), and all varieties of downers (also prescription)
Is their life shit if they are content with it? Tho.
No real alcoholic feels great on day 2 of sobriety.
yeah i used kratom to get off subs about 10 years ago. Just used kratom occasionally, the powder. Then I saw those 7-oh tabs in the gas station one day and tried em. then started doing em daily. now back on subs to get off lol, shiiitt.. Now gonna have to ween back down to 1mg of sub every other day then use kratom powder to jump ship. use kratom powder for a month during the 1 month long suboxone withdrawals then get off kratom. Now I gotta do it all over again. Shit at least im 3 months sober from alcohol thank god.
The fact gen z is currently abstaining from alcohol during their youth will just mean we will have more sloppy and lost drunks in 15-30 years. It's a double edge sword when every midwit (You included) thinks it's one-sided.
Yeah I’ve been struck by the low alcohol tolerance some people my age have. Although to be fair some of the people I’m noting were chicks, and women literally biologically get sloppy drunk easier and quicker, BAC rises quicker with the same alcohol content, also (but not only) because of their (statistically, not always) lower weight.
Also late teens to early 20s are apparently the time when men can handle their drinks best, apart from the beginning when starting with no tolerance. Like you can drink heavier as a young man without waking up so destroyed or with big hangovers, from what I’ve heard, when you get older, it’s harder to do the same amount of drinking without being wrecked the next day. Within reasonable limits.
Based happy peaceful drunk. I’ve generally been a peaceful drunk too, actually generally makes me feel more empathetic, kind, relaxed. Not all the time. Must suck to be an angry drunk.
from their perspective no cause they don't realize it. most come to that conclusion that the time wasn't good when they good. its like a bad dream especially when you are high all the time.
You are lucky I wish I could be an alcoholic again but nooooo my faggot doctors and my health won’t let me enjoy it for me anon have a beer for me
It's also an unironic gateway drug because every weed smoker I knew as a kid went on to snort coke and pop pills. Some completely fucked up their brains and vegged out too.
And why should they care for what it looks on some autistic German idiot perspective? Can't think of anything more deplorable than this.
It is? I find being sober mind numbingly boring, suicide tier boring.
So I drink alcohol only to realize being drunk is also boring as fuck except my stomach is not trashed.
Do yourself a favor and blow yourself up in a packed mosque.
Weed is a drug for slaves.
this anon fucks
checked
I'm at the stage in life where if I keep drinking it will become a life defining problem, if it hasn't already, and I cannot let that happen.
I feel the exact same way
i would not call it "gateway" drug but more of a complimentary drug. if you do uppers like speed, meth, cocaine or whatever you enjoy weed at the end of it to calm down and can sleep with it. it just a little helper eventually.
I would kill all of humanity for a drug that makes me content with my shit life.
You basically praised weed as hard as possible without even realizing.
They still prescribe Librium? wtf that was the first benzo ever. Benzos are really a miracle drug. Before the 50s we didn't really understand anxiety and panic attacks. They would dose these people with sedatives because they didn't know what else to do. Then Librium was developed and it worked. Nowadays benzos are a required chill pill in any clinic.
Fuck when you're ODing on a stimulant that's all they give you. Just a benzo to calm everything down.
This is why I used to coach people who overdid the coke or the weed to just keep drinking rapidly and it will counteract their freakout.
well if that is what you want. go ahead.
Maybe I should go to Germany since you faggots legalized it. Shieeeeeet all your wallets are belong to me now
Weed isn’t addictive you pussy I should know I have been smoking it everyday for 15 years I could stop whenever I want to I just don’t want to why the fuck would I want to do that?
we don't need more gypsies. we need less.
Then comes life, and you have to decide whether it's worth living, but after a while drinkings not fun, and you just feel like shit, get fat, and miss a ton of moments and opportunities.
good one
im 3 months sober and i feel you man. After doing a 30 day in patient rehab i was "classed/therapy" out. I tried 1 AA meeting and never went again. I got bad though so I have no desire to drink again or it'll most likely kill me. All i remmeber is feeling sick and like shit the last couple years of drinking.
Do you want to feel the touch of an angel as your wallet gets stolen or to feel the wrath of an Allah ackbar as he car of peace's you?
I have these big time. I even took a DNA test to confirm. I'm a super metabolizer and I have the Neurochemistry genes where it gives me a massive dopamine kick in the first several drinks. These genotypes peak in Scandinavia by the way.
people who drink too much are using alcohol to try to fill some void/deficiency
Wow you're 14 and this is deep deep insight. You must be very smart.
I'm currently in the ER waiting to get into detox from fentanyl. All the talk of it being deadly is b.s., I just ended up heavily addicted.
when you get older, it’s harder to do the same amount of drinking without being wrecked the next day. Within reasonable limits.
**By the way, the reason I noted this is because, well … clearly alcohol isn’t the best or healthiest thing, but I feel if you’re going to ease into it, your late teen years and young adulthood are probably the best to do it. Enjoying that while you can.
This can be true but I’ve always seen something biased and hypocritical in the way it’s expressed. I think the major thing is weed has been illegal in much of the U.S. for many decades now, only in recent years they went harder towards decriminalizing and even legalizing it in some states. But, anyway, from the law to society, education, parents, police, etc., weed is hence lumped with “all the bad illegal drugs you shouldn’t do.” But, since it’s much less blatantly and immediately harmful really than drugs like cocaine or crack, meth, opioids, adderall, benzos and various pills in general, etc., kids try it then go, “Holy shit, it’s not that harmful, they were lying to me and just being authoritarian assholes. Fuck D.A.R.E.!” Combined with the fact that, because of its former illegality in lots of the U.S., people were getting it from street dealers, and obviously these dealers could also be in the market for other illegal drugs. If they were already selling weed illegally, why not have the connections to sell shit like cocaine or opioids on the side?
That’s the sense in which weed is or has been a “gateway drug”, I feel. Made it illegal, so pushed people who want to use it to dealers selling illegal drugs, and that’s its own gateway.
All i remmeber is feeling sick and like shit the last couple years of drinking
Genuinely why keep drinking then? Getting shakes? I literally stopped drinking regularly when I realized it just makes me feel like shit. I still do it hoping maybe this time I will feel good but no luck lmao
I think it's deadly when you accidentally use it when you're expecting something else..
countries like you are ripping of germany already. regardless of you being here or not.
could be yeah. weed has always been around in germany and not really heavily prosecuted before legalization. its just there and not a big issue.
. I was at the crack one at 8 am
why are you even awake at 8 am
are you suffering some kind of punishment?
Fun while you're drunk, mainly just for yourself though kek
You feel a hell of a lot better than being hungover, and if you exercise you will absolutely feel better. Not sure wtf you're talking about. I'm starting to believe that these people who have withdrawal for a long time are pieces of shit who never exercise. Because if you're shaky and craving a drink. All you have to do is intense squats and a cardio and you will be 100x better.
It's deadly when your tolerance to opiates is 0 lmao. When you're an actual junkie things are different.
Lower tolerance is the first half. The other half is they will slip into alcoholism quicker and unknowingly because they weren't personally experienced with the addiction younger and had the resources (parents, friends, family, or ability to take time off work) to help them learn and get past it.
Im serious it’s not addictive addiction isn’t real you just use a little willpower if you want to stop something that worked with booze and blow. I just don't want to be sober
try to get rid of it, my brother got destroyed by it. has to get beer at the gas station at night etc. absolute nightmare.
i just finished a beer but this is the only one i drink today so im fine.
weeds not addictive
I just can't quit and be sober
mouth breather confirmed.
Kys
Did she drink till the end
It's a long story, but yea
Why didn't y'all get her help?
We did, but it just never worked out in end
lol
so im fine.
not sure about that bruder
Guess I'm the only one with the shitty alcohol-not-really-fun anymore genes.
A blessing and a curse.
Weed is definitely addictive, it's just one of the easier addictions to kick should you choose.
i have the "drugs arent fun" gene. i can take cocaine, speed, ketamine, mdma all in one night and feel mostly nothing. its so disappointing. the only good drug there is for me is LSD.
For fentanon if you think fentanyl isn't deadly stay sober for 6 months then do a regular dose you used to do :^)
Also true anon, good point, thanks.
Yep, like I said, obviously we’re probably all better off with less alcohol than more, but it’s also a part of life that some people can deal with. And I think that having at least SOME reasonable experience with it while younger helps with that. And, like you mention, obviously it’s not a good thing to get so fucked up off it (or any drug) that it’s affecting work, school, family life etc. heavily, but, if there’s any time that’s “best” to do that (lol), it’s probably as a teen or very young adult when you still have these safety nets. Assuming you do have such safety nets. I’m possibly speaking as a very privileged sheltered person here. You can have this fuckup stage as a teen or young adult, it’s very bad and painful to go through it, including for close friends and family, but also correspondingly easier to bounce back. If you were a heavy drinker starting at 18 and developed strong issues from it in those years, it’s still bad, but there’s generally more of a safety net then it happening when you’re 30, or 40, and older.
weed is defo better than alcohol, try to moderate it if you can. my brother is just 40 and hes falling apart his finger nails are rotting etc, absolute nightmare.
LSD will either fix your life or break you completely like that guy from Pink Floyd.
I would only do it if I was 50+ years old tbqh, frying your brain in your 20's is too early.
Gen Z is not avoiding alcohol. They just aren't drinking as much yet because most people don't pick up alcohol until they are older in their late 20's or 30's. People consume alcohol to deal with the stresses of life, which zoomers are too young to have.
No I could quit if I wanted to be sober I don’t want to be sober. But that isn’t an addiction because I could quit if I wanted to I would just use my willpower. Being sober is boring and I’m a very angry person when I’m not stoned on something.
It’s a plant seethe
Yeah I only drink light beer now, I can't be trusted with anything stronger.
There is no such thing as addiction. I snorted heroin once I never did it again I was not immediately addicted like all the retards say. I also smoked meth once and only the one time also didn’t become addicted to that. Therefore addiction is total bullshit
Yeah you're one of the many people that don't really get a "buzz". I bet you just get relaxed then tired. Some men get a big dopamine kick as their blood alcohol level increases. It's so significant that those drugs that block opioid receptors to prevent junkies from getting high from heroin work to block this booze euphoria too. There might have been more research on this since I last checked.
I call this the Frank the Tank genes and I unfortunately have every copy.
You definitely have a blessing as you age. Maybe not optimal when you're younger trying to be a party animal life of the party.
When I have 1-4 drinks and I can't keep drinking I get this cloud of sadness. It sucks. I feel like such a degenerate.
nah LSD is great. Literally did some Sunday with my ex girlfriend. A few trips, a naked woman, sex and the insights you gain are great in life.
weed kills your ambitions which is the worst part, i enjoyed smoking weed and being a neet for like 2 years but it didnt get me anywhere
I exercise every day and drink and feel pretty normal when I'm sober. I don't feel like I have to drink and feel fine if I don't. IMO it's only a problem when you have cravings and it's genuinely difficult to go a day without drinking. That's when you know it's time to cut back.
When I have 1-4 drinks and I can't keep drinking I get this cloud of sadness
More like anger lmao. I know this feeling exactly, it was overuse that made me stop enjoying it completely.
I actually went from exactly what you're describing to ...meh
Doing it regularly ruined it forever.
I drank to a problem level 25 years ago. After a night of heavy drinking on the walk home, I ran into a raging alcoholic. As I listened to him slur some bullshit or other I realised, holy fuck that is where I am headed. I didn't touch a drink for about six months after that. I dink now but never above a modest limit.
Gen Z drink, but sparingly and when it suits them. But there will be some like you.
I lack the ability to become alcoholic as I can't drink more than three days in a row, as its holds no pleasure anymore and just makes my mouth sore.
If you are only 'becoming' an alcoholic you can still stop now. This will save you up to decades of tolerating people you hate just because you have a drink in your hand and only being 'happy' when drinking. (see also: habitual cocaine users)
I wouldn't even bother contemplating if big alcohol can do anything, considering your actual issue is being a problem drinker.
Start being sober on a Friday or Saturday when the drive to drink is probably the highest. May as well start on the hardest night and it will also give valuable feedback of just how bad you are. If it's hard then walk and keep walking (don't take money obviously) till you've walked it off. I've known people cure themselves of serious prescription drug abuse by just walking for hours.
If you need motivation, stay sober but then go to a bar when the place is filled with sloppy drunks. Talk to a few of them and realise how fucking stupid they all sound and how much shit they talk. (see also: habitual cocaine users)
If you can't or wont stop then good luck, you'll need it once you're a few years into this.
some of us got cursed with addict genes. early last year i drank nearly a month straight for reasons and when i sobered up in four days i had a thought "wtf am i doing?" here i am booze free today. only tip i can give to you anon is that stop living in the past and move on
gen z avoids alcohol
instead they slam shit like molly and ketamine
They aren't doing any bitter, mein neger.
Btw I think your the same Romanian I spoke to on here on an alcohol thread about 3 or so months ago. Your a reason I ended up going to rehab and detoxing from alcohol. I'm over 3 months sober now.
exercise just smooths everything out. it really is amazing. When I was young I sort of cycled exercise and drinking. It sucked sometimes out running after lifting all hungover, but as you say it really does erase most of the withdrawal effects.
What happened with me, which kinda sucks, is that after a great workout I crave booze. Completely counter productive habit. But fun.
the good thing about molly is that you can't get addicted to it. it does nothing to you if you do it often. ketamine addiction is very bad though. i know some ketamine addicted bitches. sad state of affairs.
TBF, Shias are quite based
I was a big alcoholic from ages 17-25, wasted 8+ years of my life and was left at a disadvantage compared to everyone else
I am 28 now, 2.5 years into sobriety and am finally getting my shit together. Feeling normal for the first time since high school
Best to just quit as soon as possible
until you involve fentanyl then even the most addled of junkies can die to an extra pinch
I do remember posting in an alcohol thread a few months ago lmao.
If I was also complaining about alcohol no longer being fun that's me.
Yes definitely a negative attitude as well.
I think part of the problem with Booze is that the true euphoric buzz that all alcoholics are chasing is very short lived. Then it's just a depressant, which is why is makes you violent.
Still the only drug to have been proven to make you violent.
50% of people who commit murders are drunk
50% of people who get murdered are drunk
And this is why it's just so goddam fun.
t. Shia. Fuck off.
Holy shit nice work anon
im scottish and my grandfather who was even more scottish was an alcoholic who did commit murder (against a scumbag pos) who needded to rot in hell anyways
Kek I did smash a bottle once on the street with people around me. Some bitch screamed and ran away from me.
Can confirm alcohol is the violent nigger drug...sometimes
The Zoomers are a special case. The generation has little memory of life before the Great Panic (2008-2032), and they have been shaped by its traumatic nature. Alcohol is the poison that has made and kept the world as it is for over a hundred years. It is no surprise that the generation that came of age after this fact found itself in the perfect position to eschew the poison that had poisoned their world. I predict big alcohol will have an even harder time gaining popularity than big tobacco.
This. Alcohol wrecked my stomach when drinking. Oh God it was not fun
nice anon.
i had the benefit of being addicted to nicotine already so i knew the signs and quit before i got caught
Yeah only for alcohol withdrawals tho. And btw no it wasn't fun, Xanax etizolam and temazepam are way better. It just helps you detox from the drink.
What are the political implications of Gen Z hating alcohol?
they will come back to its sweet embrace when they turn 30, just like we did
Best part is wondering why the fuck you have a hangover now when last night wasn't even fun.
I'm a white cultural Christian kek
I've been drinking heavily for over a decade with little issue but when I hit my 30s I started getting blackout drunk and then going out to bars where I would end up getting thrown out and wake up bleeding and lost in random places around town. I've been banned from multiple places and I'm pretty sure everyone hates me. I quit drinking for a month after a really awful bender. which is the longest I've gone without drinking since I turned 21 and it was a nice change but I just started drinking again. I'm a very functional alcoholic just so long as I do it alone in the privacy of my home.
Alcohol is a brutal means to a temporary happiness
t. probably an alcoholic at this point
It's a good thing you got sober man.
Drinking regularly will only ruin it forever. I wish I never drank regularly and only did it on weekends.
Now even after a long tolerance break alcohol is still shit, I know how heroin junkies feel chasing that first high lmao
I have IBS and GERD, altho they are under control now that I only weigh 138 lb.
Now that I'm in my mid 30s I don't like getting drunk anymore but I keep doing it accidentally. I always wake up with a really bad stomach ache and feeling gross from my GERD/IBS if I get drunk.
So I'm like, someone on the verge of being an alchoholic, only instead of drinking a 6 pack every day and sometimes getting black out drunk, I have one drink during the week and 3 on weekends and sometimes have a 6 pack lol.
My new rule is only 1 cocktail a night unless its like gin and tonic or japanese highball. Cocktails are too fast and I get in a creative mood and want to make bizzare new ones after a couple.
I really need to keep to something like only 3 drinks in a 6 hour period or something.
I mean I should probably stick to 14 drinks a week or whatever the european doctors say.
Fuck american doctors they just don't want you to drink at all.
its a gamble. kidneys vs liver
if a kidney gives out you piss blood if the liver gives out...
I don't like getting drunk anymore but I keep doing it accidentally. I always wake up with a really bad stomach ache and feeling gross from my GERD/IBS if I get drunk.
You're literally me holy shit. The GERD is amazing best part is when it literally hurts to eat food kek
Stop drinking and go to some AA type group thing this week, just to check it out.
In my opinion about 2 billion people should go to addiction rehab just for sugar addiction.
Your addiction might be alcohol, but billions are in your shoes for the most part, with a lethal addiction to sugar and food chemicals.
Alcohol addiction is factually a progressive disease, which means your addiction will only get worse and worse as your tolerance goes up.
You're smart to recognize your addiction symptoms now. Most people just cruise through this phase and pretend not to notice, mostly because they are cowards in the face of social pressure to keep drinking.
go to some AA type group thing this week
i thought about it and even googled it. idk.
do you post in /sauna/ ?)
Thread's dead boys, let's have a drink in it's honor!
Well I won't be having any today but maybe tomorrow. Once every 2-3 days is optimal, give your liver time to regenerate.
i lurk more than i post buddy
Ex-severe alcoholic here. I was drinking 9-10 shots a day, every day, of straight liquor. I preferred vodka since I've always been too pussy to admit that my weight problem was from lack of discipline and workout, and tried to mitigate by drinking "lighter" shit like vodka. Half of the shots per day were heavy 100 proof, the rest flavored bullshit. For years and years I did this as a way to cope with stress of losing jobs, and it led to the loss of several relationships, including a genuinely good woman I saw a future with. I am now clean for several months after years of saying "alright TODAY is the day I quit this shit" in the morning and then proceeding to wash down the day's rigors with some stiff drinks. I was to the point where I would drive drunk and I got very good at it, avoiding DUI on 4 separate occasions from cops pulling me over. I trained myself well to hide it from everyone. One day I woke up and almost full 8 years had passed on this lifestyle, I didn't remember losing the time or where it went, and I was in my mid 30s. And that scared me, because there were things I wanted to do before I died that were only possible in youth. On that day, I snapped, and I just stopped. I simply didn't put it in my mouth again. There were no withdrawals, no shakes, and no desire to drink. I haven't craved a drink once. Once you decide that alcohol hurts you more than it helps, and that it has absolutely no benefits in your life, the hardest or most annoying part then becomes having to reject people pushing drinks on you after you've said no. They will pounce like vampires in a blood bank because they NEED you to drink. It justifies their own behavior. When you reject it in front of others, it forces them to confront and admit in their mind that they too, must one day quit their drug. They dont even like you referring it to a drug. Anon, you need to decide mentally that the benefits of not drinking outweigh the benefits of drinking.
Stick to beer, malt liquor, and wine. Just don't go full vodka vatnik.
Does alcoholism run in any of your families? My mom used to always tell me I needed to be careful with drinking because it's a problem on both sides of my family and I was always like "lol yea ok whatever" and immediately started drinking as much as possible and sure enough I'm an alcoholic in the worst way. Both my great grandfathers died of organ failure and my grandfather on my dads side and his brother and my mom's brother. It feels so stupid to do the same thing... Is it really genetic or am I just a retard with no self control?
let's have a drink in it's honor!
alright.
Does alcoholism run in any of your families?
not in mine
is 9--10 shots even a lot? sounds like its not.
Alcohol is the pain reliever for when you get old and broken. Steppe warriors were famous for their alcoholism to cover the injuries suffered from falling off horses. Opium dens were filled with old dudes and cripples. If someone is pushed to alcoholism, they just have a shitty life. Ask me how i know.
Feel you, Kraut bro, I shit out my first white shit years ago, got spooked so regenerated the liver little bit, drinking daily still tho. It was the time I had a problem to function, like I was not pretty sure what day it is in first second. Then I lost the ability to have hangover and become a pro. After two more years, which is now, being in the shadows or have days of withdrawal is worse than hangovers for me now. So I am working on it with some success now. But if you do not have reason to change it (in my case familly bussiness), it is very hard
People can die from alcohol withdrawal.
Smashing yourself while withdrawing is amazingly stupid.
My friend owns and runs a rehab.
Your advice is terrible.
Kek, today I checked the calories of vodka vs beer and realized 2L of beer has 800 kcal which is quite a lot.
well my experience happened after i lost my job and before that i only socially drank every other or less on weekends so i think it might be genetic
tfw late 30s, only drink once every few months now because the hangovers after 6+ drinks are unbearable
Anybody else naturally grow out of alcoholism? My body just can't handle it at this age
shut the fuck up rat
Yes, trust the Jew.
I am in the early stages and I know where I am headed.
You are weak and pathetic.
Anybody else naturally grow out of alcoholism? My body just can't handle it at this age
You are literally me.
I don't drink, smoke, gamble, or even drink caffeine. the only thing I am addicted to is anime porn.
for me it were the hemorrhoids and the extremely stinking shits. people could smell it in the hallway of my office
My dad works at Nintendo and says exercise is bad.
That's what started catching up with me. I'm sick today because I decided to drink a six pack yesterday.
Both my great grandfathers died of organ failure and my grandfather on my dads side and his brother and my mom's brother
I think it's over for you. This is your destiny man.
not really. i'm 35 and i never get hangovers unless i've really overdone it. i do have diarrhea every day though and that gets old. honestly i never really give my body time to feel bad because i always chug a couple beers if i start to feel off. also i drink lots of water and eat lots of sardines.
You cant call yourself an alcoholic if you never had a seizure.
You two use the term alcoholic very lightly. You seem to me as normal teens which became moderates and with age resistance lowers
I'm not sure that's true. If you're having seizures from booze you're a few steps from dying.
wrong, thats mean you are terminal and goner, not alcoholic
Drinking every night after work is not alcoholic
I've seen real alkies. My Dad was one.
I was still drinking near daily at 35. This happened around 37 or 38. And the only way I don't get a hangover is if I drink one of these... Fuck pedialyte , this stuff mogs. Not even coconut water beats it
Have you ever call an emergency for him? Maybe as a kid by yourself?
Exactly! If you only drink every 2-3 days you can't possibly be alcoholic, just a heavy drinker at best.
Sorry my bad. I didn't realize the usage of the word, yes I was never alcoholic, alcoholics wake up and down a bottle of vodka first thing in the morning to stop the shakes.
aww shit im drunk frens
Syd was schizophrenic, it had nothing to do with the acid
I think philosophically speaking it's more correct to say someone is an Alcoholic whenever they (or women) want them to stop and they can't.
But yeah just drinking daily doesn't make you alcoholic.
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me too fren
fishing for yous from these addicts but shhh.. dont tell them
Gen Z doesn't avoid it, I work at the liqour store and I love seeing them devolve into aloholics. I am a sadist, so that's my own sexual thing but watching someone devolve, lose their job, come in to pay with quarters, stop getting hair cuts or shaving, it's an honor to get paid while watching predictable people do predictable things as addicts. Lost a lot of my customers, either DUI, jail, mental lockup, suicide, or liver failure. The yellow fuck I used to call homer died last month, saw his obituary. I smiled every time he came in and tried to get me to talk him out of buying a bottle while his liver is failing, I am a great salesman and gen z is on the same path. Only with white claws and other faggy drinks, I still try to push them onto liquors to build a tolerance
I love seeing them devolve into aloholics
damn
me too fren
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i watched a bong documentary recently about some end stage alcoholics. it was the saddest most pathetic shit i've ever seen and it really drove home how gross and pointless the whole thing is. anyone know what i'm talking about? i'd recommend watching it if you're serious about quitting drinking, especially considering so much tv and film romanticizes it.
Great comeback…
But yeah just drinking daily doesn't make you alcoholic
Yeah drinking daily usually means once per day so you're under the influence 2-4 hours per day.
A real alcoholic drinks the moment he wakes up and stops when he goes to sleep.
you have a link? For a friend. Nothing new I guess tho
based merchant of death. the prudes at my liquor store won't sell to you if you're visibly intoxicated.
Avoiding alcohol is easy because it’s garbage. Complete garbage. TV tries to imprint upon you that you want it. But i don’t want it. You can’t do anything once you’ve had a drink except have a good laugh with other drunk fools so that is the only time and situation to use it - at celebrations like weddings and on holiday. I have champagne or Proseco (organic Proseco is nicer than any champagne) on a Saturday with a big formal sunday lunch with family, with the meal and often have a glass or two more afterwards while playing cards or quizing.
Since i have every type of booze and van do anything I want to do at any time, I do not need to work or do anything, this is fortunate. I’m not one for falling for tricks any more, TV led so many people to destruction already I’m not joining them simply because actors are always swilling spirits in every scene. I prefer to
A) play vidya
B) work out
C) use my brain - booze knocks 60 points off my iQ for 3 days+ if i get pissed.
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Actual Euros can pound alcohol into their 80s. People that get liver disease are just mutts.
Based devilish retard.
I opose, this is for normal kids, if your parents and even granparens are alcoholics, you have worse outcome
Alcohol has a built in anti-addiction mechanism the more you drink the less fun it becomes. Same for cigarettes, maybe I'm just cursed to not enjoy anything oh well.
I had a cousin that was an alcohol and drug counselor. He told me many stories of alcoholics that would drink to the point of vomiting and then drink their vomit. Another popular thing with the alcoholics was to ass chug their booze when their throats became to raw to physically drink anything. This is a life that no one deserves, and any anons that feel they may be on the cusp or are in the throes of alcoholism, please find a way to stop.
You need to listen to our thread theme you old booze dog devil you
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Thanks! I watch it myself for preventive purposes
I can't enjoy vidya while sober.
(I don't enjoy it drunk either but I pretend I do to justify the money and hangover)
ass chug their booze
ketamine addicts do this as well
This is complete bullshit.
I also had a retarded nurse tell me one time that I shouldn't workout with high blood pressure because I could have a stroke. Exercise literally lowers resting BP.
Do either of you work out regularly? Like really. Because this is the dumbest thing I've heard in awhile.
Booze withdrawal is norepinephrine going crazy, essentially. Look up what exercise does to norepinephrine levels.
If I ever go to rehab I will make sure to vet out the management and make sure their not this retarded.
I actually just found a paper that says specifically high intensity exercise reduces alcohol WD symptoms.
This thread gave me thirst, what should I drink Anon Babble? I've Gin, Pinga and Whisky. Also wine, sake and beer.
Ass chugging is based if you have GERD.
Not that I tried it or anything lmao, I'm not THAT much into alcohol.
Seems kinda gay, women naturally have an advantage since they like to put things up their butts.
well im drinking gin tonic
I hooked up with the hottest bitch ever over a game of beer pong. There's no way autistic sober life can match the cool shit that happens once everyone is drunk.
Here in Czech Republic we have 4 tears of alcoholics. Tier 4 requires few months in psychiatric wards, usually doomer. But this, it is like tier 5.
Good call, let me follow you on that.
What makes you think young people hate alcohol? It's the same as it ever was. I doubt we will see an alcohol free society, people will continue to hate themselves and, as such, they will drink. I drank daily for about 2 years. I quite 2 weeks ago because I got sick of all the diarrhea and waking up feeling tired.
Yes alcohol WD can be fatal, but it's still a norepinephrine mediated signal.
Most people who have exercised their whole lives understand this intuitively and hit the gym when they have alcoholism induced anxiety.
I hooked up with the hottest bitch ever over a game of beer pong. There's no way autistic sober life can match the cool shit that happens once everyone is drunk.
same man. i have fucked bitches when drunk i can't even believe it myself.
Checked. I think subconsciously this is what I'm experiencing.
Going cold turkey now. Using nicotine pouches to stop vaping.
Drugs only do so much and I need a change.
What makes you think young people hate alcohol?
every statistic shows this
"its based shove things up your ass" ok faggot jew
I had my first seizure 5 years ago and Im still boozing and ticking.
Other than a fatty liver my body is still holding up.
You organlets need to shut the fuck up.
I drink 6-12 beers a day and on days where there’s no beer I average about 1.5 bottles of wine. Is this bad?
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They taste like shit though
i think its just a bad form of alcohol. low % and you gotta drink a lot. thats why i prefer gin.
I am in my 30's. Never had a single drop of this liquid Jew. Never will.
I do it for my regulars because there are narcs. I try to find out as much about their life and catolog it, watch as months turn to years and the differences and pain they've expereinced since. I don't drink much, I can control myself and am shocked that people get so hooked to the point of paying with pennies and waiting at the door before I even open. Shaking, puking in the parking lot, just trembling while waiting for me to open up. Alcoholics are pathetic, but I put my fake face on around them.
It's all about the pain baby, I feed off it. ..
You seem upset friend. Have a drink to relax.
good for you i guess
Yeah each beer is an additional 100kcal of carbs.
It's a cyclical pattern.
You can do it. Here's some focus points
Focus on the joy of not being hungover and how amazing your mornings are not - always think about tomorrow and the morning
Focus on how amazing you're feeling physically throughout your body - all the euphoric energy you have in comparison to when you were drinking. This of how your potential to accomplish anything in increasing day by day
Focus on how clear and consistent your thinking is - this is a euphoria in its own right
kek
organlets
t. fellow white preternatural organ haver
Whoa! I think you are on to something! Hey everyone! This guy has profound insight! Get this anon a professorship and a nobel prize! What a fuckin genius!
I have to support this. I live in village, so I have only experience with my brother, he got out of that shit, but his personality changed to salty cunt, even slight inconvenience could cause outburst. But my friends live in ghetto town, many lost causes.
all the euphoric energy you have for mundane shit like cleaning your house, working your job and feeding your cat
big wow, much euphoria, such fulfilment
hear me out, i think drinking lots of light beer is actually good for you. have you ever seen an alcoholic crushing light beers? probably not. it's basically water that you can drink endlessly while also getting a buzz. and you're flushing the toxins out of your body because the goyslop you're eating has way worse shit in it than alcohol. so basically you're getting a buzz, staying hydrated, and removing harmful toxins from your body. basically bud light is the healthiest drink you can have and you should probably drink at least a 12 pack a day.
better luck nxt time )
Are you this buttblasted in general or just having a bad day?
This is advice for non-faggots
Still you overuse your kidneys. But if it is not like 8pc a day, you are ok imo
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