Could the Afrikaner take SA by force in 2025?

Could the Afrikaner take SA by force in 2025?
SA's military is quite small and poorly trained.

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this could be fun to game out as an intellectual exercise. I'm sure we have some former zogbots around who could comment. You'd need to seize weapons from the army first/loot a few supply warehouses, right?

That's what I thought. Not as a real scenario but just a hypothetical.

Afrikaner population has been in decline for awhile, so at minimum how many are of military fighting age?

number of males in the 18 to 49 age range (excluding whites) in South Africa = ~28 million

white males 18-64 = ~4.5 million

Could the Boers fight a JewSA led JewN intervention politically, militarily, and logistically supporting infinity niggers in their orcish murder march across Africa.

No.

If I had rebels who could take over one base I'd go with this one. But I'm a total newbie to stopping baseless white genocides so what do i know.

One of the largest bases in the country[12] is Tempe base which is located in Bloemfontein and is home to 1 South African Tank Regiment (Tank Regiment), 1 Special Service Battalion (Armoured Car Regiment), the South African School of Armour (which offers decentralized training to regular and reserve regiments), 44 Parachute Regiment and 1 South African Infantry Battalion (Mechanized Infantry). The parachute training wing is also located here. Bloemfontein is also home to the Regiment Bloemspruit (Light Infantry), Vrystaatse Artillerie Regiment (Artillery) and Regiment President Steyn (Tank Regiment) as well as 3 Military Hospital.

Bloemfontein (/ˈbluːmfɒnteJn/ BLOOM-fon-tayn;[4][5] Afrikaans: [ˈblumfɔntəin]), also known as Bloem, is the capital and the largest city of the Free State province in South Africa. It is often, and has been traditionally, referred to as the country's "judicial capital"...Situated at an elevation of 1,395 m (4,577 ft) above sea level, the city is home to 256,185 (as of 2011)[9] residents and forms part of the Mangaung Metropolitan Municipality which has a population of 747,431. 29.8% white

But if you take a base, even quietly, shits gonna break out after. Are their black pilots at other bases who could competently run bombing missions? I don't know.

not without outside support
they are the minority in population, they don't have a giant gun industry or manufacturing base

nor do they have a large control of goverment or police assets or any way to resuppuly or support from the majority of the population or any friendly neighbors to sneak aid or logistics or offer a safe haven

nor do they have any major international support

their gun laws are pretty strict so there isnt going to be stock piles of ammo and weapons in civilian hands like in the USA

in short fuck no

best odds for survival is to leave and maybe come back when it implodes and take itif they even want to come back

No, but China might see the opportunity to step in, knowing that Europe won't protect them.

best odds for survival is to leave

yeah, they really should just come to the USA and find success. But if there are any competent niggers in South Africas internal security forces I'd love them to be forced to follow up on theories and possibilities here instead of harassing white people.

You would have been a redcoat lol. very ready to defer to authority and very pessimistic.

You have this backwards, nigger. "Outside support" is the only reason Apartheid ended to begin with, and it's the only reason the nigger "government" hasn't outright collapsed or just quietly transitioned back into de facto White rule.

In practical terms, the most effective enemy of White rule in SA is Whites themselves, as a great many have been brainwashed into self-hatred which prevents widespread racial cooperation.

take over 60 million niggers

now what

I think they have a chance. Blacks sucks an organizing things. And it isn't all Whites against the rest of the country, there would be probably some coloured and blacks who would be on the White side, even if it is just for money. Also it would be very likely that blacks would fight each other in a civil war out of criminal or tribal reasons.

white males 18-64 = ~4.5 million

1.0 million. You going to need the Indians.

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Not without backing obviously.

How many of these people speak a common language and are intelligent enough to fight at an organized level? Genuine question

None of this accounts for the fact that the whites would need arms and equipment.

Since I support equal treatment under cultural law I actually clicked your link. Nice. I like the vibe. I think your potential fanbase is getting larger everyday.

Lohatla.

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None of this accounts for the fact that the whites would need arms and equipment.

The South African military is not 100% black. It includes personnel from various racial backgrounds, including white South Africans who continue to serve in significant roles, including planning, strategy, and senior leadership positions.

yes of course, the only reason they wouldn't be able to is if globalist jews cut off all of their funding and support and prevent them from buying weapons or coordinating. that's why rhodesians lost the war in 1979

No because there would be immediate international intervention and the whites would be exterminated.

That's not exactly a good thing for morale or cohesiveness.

Is that Chief Nigger's hut in the middle there? Take that hut and the whole army stops dead in its tracks.

shit has that signature AI sound

also remember, if whites tried this in South Africa, not only would they be completely cut off from international markets, the jews would provide infinite monetary and logistical support to the blacks

How many of these people speak a common language and are intelligent enough to fight at an organized level?

no idea, but they are not great at strategy in the best case scenario. they chimp out with machetes on their neighbors thats how they get numbers in conflict. I dont think the non-whites could do logistics. they'd be using the indian merchants that infest africa so they would be scammed nonstop.

Fast, complicated. Not frontal lobes, but reaction speed and ooda.

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you should offer something that would make you like it more to be constructive. no need to be such a negative kike. you can make a kill the bantu song too and I will be just as encouraging of you. really.

Just send the German army. They're not doing anything anyway

Lohatla.

The SA Army Combat Training Centre is unique in the sense that it is one of only ten such institutions in the world that provide exclusive and permanent facilities for landward warfare training.

huh need to research this

Yes definitely. South Africa is already basically a failed nation. On top of that the population has no unifying ideology and many of the niggers do not even speak the same language. Original south African niggers hate new nigger refugees who can't even speak the language. Everyone hates the whites and there are plenty of white cucks and some competent whites who have been given high positions by the niggers to keep things afloat.

This it is the same shit in every white country except for the slavic ones. Soviet propaganda exposure is less destructive than what the US has shit out the last 80 years.

based on this picture from a story covering a fire at lohatla I have decided that all nonwhites in the SA military are gibs soldiers not real soldiers. Whites could take control of all military assets in under one week.

Biggest issue would be the timeline of 2025. I believe that instead they will be a boon to rallying European nations.

Hopefully we will see a European rallying. If not a collapse of some sort - regardless, unless immediate action is taken now - there will be further concessions of land.

As things heat up you may see the foundation of things such as PMC's, Security Firms, Weapon Manufacturer as well as just more internal consumer goods trading.

15 years - 25 years from now (maybe more) you will see a reclamation movement form. Where remaining European powers push to reclaim land. Which would definitively include Rhodesia and South Africa.

In the short term - South Africans SHOULD leave. As foreign aid is cut, either China or other powers will try to move in. But Africa will likely start to starve over the next few decades. Better to let them exhaust themselves in their own civil wars before reclamation.

kek. thats fucking awesome. thank you. I can tell you didnt record that in a big lovely studio but who cares? Its funny.

Wouldnt be surpris3d if zog uses the boer the way they did with ukraine

they are leaving for the US
...
this is a time where ALL white people should group together period
PERIOD
and fuck white women

story covering a fire

Keep looking for when the 35 mm AA sprayed its users, maybe 2008 ish.

You’re fucking retarded. All they would have to do is sabotage the main infrastructure and wait for the niggers to al eat eachother. Come in a few months later and clean up what’s left…

nice try, schlomo…

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it's still AI nigga. Here's the version with me noodling over it lol
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FPBP
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You would need total WW3 chaos, otherwise BRICS, NATO, UN, every african in africa, would be down your throat.

Remember whites arent targeted because they are white, they are targeted because they are Christian and have the means to easily spread that Christianity.

Even better. You know, if AI music is that easy to generate it would be fun to make seme generic modern background music with lyrics like that to play quietly in public spaces.

Can you do a soft jazz version? Wonder how long a speaker could play it softly in a dentist's waiting room before someone noticed.

rhodesia had lots of outside support and logistics
especially from south africa
ironically Israel sold them a lot of their weapons and supplies

Portugal did as well offer aid and weapons

they had a large amount of foreign volunteers

SA does not have that today

i dont know if dying just to prove a point or for other to gather data is worth it

The USA was a homogenous and the majority of the british were overseas and we had french support and our own logistics

you should read the first response you stupid motherfucker Rhodesia received plenty of outside help and had a friendly nation bordering it in the Form of South africa

south africa is all alone now with no major outside help or logistics or big groups of volunters

i dont know if dying just to prove a point or for other to gather data is worth it

what? I don't understand you. This is like "who would win superman or batman" with the side effect that if SAs security services are at all competent this thread will make lights light up somewhere. What on earth are you talking about?

Stop being negative Nancy. It's a board game. We can make it playable. We can use boer prophet cards and shit. No ebola, that is b&.

SAs security services are at all competent

They would already be itt playing along.

You ain’t Christian. You’re a retard that doesn’t even know the sabbath, thinks Jesus was born on dec 25, and he’s related to the Easter bunny

i said anyone trying to stay back and trying to test how an insurgency would work out in SA is wasting their time.

LMAO its more of an RTS and you need to git gud at resource gathering bro

but the reality is pretty negative unless i woke up tomorrow and saw a gigantic main stream push in a powerful country to make SA great again by offering money and military aid to the besieged white farmers

friendly nation bordering

Crazy German expats in southwest Africa. The white lords of Zimbabwe (Rutledge, willie rautenbach); Zululand?

SA is wasting their time.

But you telling others playing a game that they are wasting their time is a good use of time. This is what d&c shills do. You seem like a good guy but your whining hasnt really helped the conversation.

Rhodesia had south Africa learn to read and Rhodesia got plenty of weapons and supplies from the Portuguese before they left

I said anyone IRL trying to start and insurgency in SA is wasting their time

you are free to fantasize all you want about logistics trains appearing out of the ether

Whites in SA should endorse Talmud

Just as you've been free to ignore my initial post that the first step would be seizing weapons/military assets.

i mean Israel is how they got nukes in the first place...... which they then had to give up....

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Botswana realising that it is itself an ethnostate endorses the numbers gangs bid for control.

Good point about regional stability!

blacks would fight each other in a civil war out of criminal or tribal reasons.

100%. Look up the Bophuthatswana Crisis. President Mangope refused to be integrated into Mandela's Bantu-led "rainbow nation" so staunchly that he hired the AWB (SA's premier neo-nazi organization) to help him resist government forces and some of his own mutinied army. Mangope ended up having to surrender, but not before 3 days of mostly ethnic-based fighting that left some 70 people dead and hundreds more inured.
Nogs in SA aren't just one solid bloc. There's dozens of groups and most of them hate each other.

Retired colonel Constant Viljoen leads your army into a trap.

Yes, that is a bit tricky; best assume 44 on a 2d20 for treachery.

i said anyone trying to stay back and trying to test how an insurgency would work out in SA is wasting their time.

I said anyone IRL trying to start and insurgency in SA is wasting their time

fuck off and kill yourself shill.

you sound butthurt bb gurl lmao go put on on some Rhodesian brush stroke and fly over there im sure they will great you as a liberator

That's just rude. This is a frens thread. Blue team is expected to be blue.

imagine the smell

population benis

What's up with the whites and indians? It's a literal genocide.

The problem isn't the military per se, but the hordes of violent civilian niggers and the international community that would prop up the black government or support black rebels while besieging a hypothetical white government.

At its peak the SADF held its own with less than a hundred thousand personnel... but I suppose even if 1/6th of your army is all of your prime baby makers that's very bad

15-19 dent.

But why? Those were boom years leading up to the soccer world cup bust. Oh I see it's old data. Try to keep up.

It would just be a repeat: eventually, the whites would just get tired and give it up like they did in the 90s.

SADF

You gonna have to add in the police because sadf was only at the border. Namibia was police, Angola was army.

Please no negative nancies on the green team! Blue and red have settled their differences and are busting ass.

Rhodesia had a ton of foreign support

embargoed by the US AND USSR

what they managed to achieve was astonishing, they are fetishized as underdogs for good reason.

Rhodesian war veterans join your cause.

At what strength. Assets?

To be generous for the thought experiment, we could say Trump physically blocks outside aid to SA with some carrier groups

They’d be like 80 by now, I don’t think you can factor them in anymore

Youngest is MAYBE 65, and even that's with no real combat by the late 70s.

Boomers don't know shit.

Okay, won't bother talking to them. I'm thinking holding territory might be hard for minority group due to resource depletion. Maybe goal is to survive or something.

Many served with sadf at those big battles.

Could the Afrikaners take South Africa by force in 2025?

If they could realistically attempt it, many people from around the world would lend their support. Not only would they be fighting for a worthy cause, they would also be pioneering a new frontier for those who aspire new beginnings.

Needless to say, the Anglo-Cuckson and their muttified cousins would do everything in their power to prevent this from happening, just as the UK had done to Rhodesia.

Hopes and prayers.

Thanks anon, should go well with those carrier groups. Go Europe!!

Just put grenades inside goats with the trigger in the vagina. Cant wipe out half of the SA army overnight.

Israel and America would never let it happen
They don't want other people getting any ideas

Maybe they take control of their own area, claim independence and wait for the SA army to attack. They could conduct guerrilla warfare tactics to wear the government down. I don't know how well they are supplied.

They are armed to the teeth but only 10% of the population. No artillery though so they would get fucked.

Large swathes of contiguous timber plantation.