Communism or capitalism pol?

The latter is ugly and depressing

Yeah sure commie

Tell me that tusk and putin belong to the same race. One wouldn't stand out in western europe, the other looks like a cross between asian x rats with white skin

China is communist dumbass.

No. Your employer gave you housing. (Not private property). Privatization only came after soviet union

I've been to Eastern Europe and I will take the affordable, sturdy and large open space Commie block with a central location over tooth pick built, flimsy, cheaply made, small space, Ikea-tier slop in the middle of nowhere American condo buildings.

Because the Chinese say so? They can't say they're national socialists out of PR - but that's exactly how they govern.
And if I say I am a stone then I am a stone or a human being because I behave like one?

Why are mutts such inferior retarded white people?

That's basically where I'm at as well. Centrally planned economy to control for the greedy kikes that will always try to only ingratiate themselves, but you still have markets with their own ebb and flow. If a billionaire is caught doing some financial crimes, I know it's unheard of here in the west where these people are to be treated as demigods to be worshiped, but you can punish these people, and China is the only one who gets that. It should be obscenely insulting that those orientals are better at dispensing justice than anglos, but I guess that goes to show the absurd rot in western society. Stands for nothing but profit margin, and people wonder why they're constantly miserable.

brainwashed cuckpitalist. probably a brown one

i dont know how communism was applied in your country, but in Yugoslavia was better

COMMUNISM IS THE WORST

CAPITALISM IS THE BEST

You got it.
Thank you for letting me meet the one intelligent mutt on this platform today!

you are such a hilarious boob

Communism did housing right. Even in China most people own their home (granted it’s usually an apartment). What we have now in America is a perversion of common sense. “Man loves to sow what he does not reap”

I'm not even a "Leftist" or "Socialist" and even I agree. The economy in the US is complete and utter trash these days and is surviving off of nothing more than inflation via money printing and credit/low interest rates.

nope

just like in any authoritan government, you were told to report any wrongdoing you either suspected or saw your neighbour doing

can't build a community on constant distrust

Tgat's what happens if you shift from industry to finance. The market correction for eurodollar companies will be painful

That's Funland right now though. You can't even drive a little faster without some nerdy Pekka calling the cops on you. (I also heard they get benefits for snitching). It was never that bad here.

As if they care. How did China rise so quickly? Because the eurodollar capitalists ripped us off and invested the money in China. They also profit when the West goes under - or that's what they think.

eternal concrete

No concrete used in modern construction will last more than a few decades before crumbling, and there is nothing you can do to save the structure once it starts. Wood framed construction no matter how shitty the materials are can last forever with maintenance. If anything starts rotting you can just cut it out and replace it.

1. Chink shit is literally made from corn cobs
2. """"""""""""Free""""""""""

Lmfao even

China is technocracy. And that's the goal for a global order. That's why they try to show China as this wonder economy. Reality isn't that good though. Especially when it came to cuckvid.

The church in our village has been standing for 600 years - it looks pretty good. And it's not made of wood. How is that possible?!

THERE ARE ONLY TWO OPTIONS GOY ONLY TWO POSSIBLE CHOICES, THERES NOTHING ELSE, IF SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT ONE OF THE CHOICES IT M U S T MEAN THEY WANT THE OTHER OPTION

DONT YOU FUCKING DARE COMBINE SOCIALISM WITH NATIONALISM

It requires a communist party just to enforce a mixed economy and keep the ultra rich under control. What does this say about capitalism?

Strong sense of community

The government encouraged you to spy on your neighbors

Even in China most people own their home

They have a long-term lease from The Party. They don't own shit.

houses are expensive everywhere.

It's also not made of modern concrete.

Well Capitalism is the second stage of Communism, so I'll just wait for the inevitability of the technocratic shift into it.

Fuck off tankie

Full support saar. Fuck commies

cardboard frame can last forever with maintenance

concrete no more than 10 years

Read through your own quotes.
He is talking about an era, not a form of government. He is also not talking about technocracy, but creating a new term based on it.
Technotronic =! technocracy

Technocracy doesn't exist any more than real communism - people are too greedy and emotional for that.

China is national socialism.

Actually the flat roof of the commieblock almost always becomes a major problem. They're made for urban warfare purposes, not living.
I used to live on a top floor of a commieblock, there was black mold.

beaner music after 12

why does our culture and music offend white people so much?
also why does the right for some random white person to sleep in silence trump the right of a 20,30 people of color to have a joyous party into the night?
theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/09/let-brooklyn-be-loud/670600/

implying 2nd isn't multiethnic and depressing asf

Try harder Hans. Its been coming since they unpegged the dollar

Germans made a bunch of those in latvia. They're still standing. 2m thick concrete walls.
Obviously, i have to make the point that they were made to spiritually enslave us.

The west has been full blown communist since the 1950s. retard.
USA and USSR were never enemies. They were rivals seeing which form of communism works best for control. That's the only place they disagreed.
Turns out, the western model for communism is superior at control, so the Berlin wall was torn down to show how "those evil heckin' commies were defeated. communism is gone"
fucking bait and switch.

Just because someone writes a book doesn't mean it's true. If it is, you are an inferior race that is unworthy of life anyway.

there is a book that proves me right

Try harder subhuman

I remember a Latvia anon once posted how the hallway in his commie block looked like a scene from a horror movie.

you cholos have no soul

Hasn't been since the 80s.
In communism there is no private enterprise at all. China is more like a fascist country, there is capitalism, but everything is in government's control.

Bratan, everything "free" in economy means "you pay for it some other way". If you calculate, holding this in mind, commieblocks are VERY expensive plus shitty as hell.

China is national socialism.

Yeah I'm sure turning 80% of your population into poverty-ridden cockroach eaters was exactly what Hitler had in mind.

Like .. national socialismn?

ur wrong and stupid because hitler

Damn, you sure showed me, faggot

In four years I'll see your ass blown up by a drone on telegram.
Little faggot Russian

All commies of today more or less or nation before class, so you can call them National Socialist. Though it's better not to do this to avoid the erroneous analogy with Nazism.

one could lead into the other if your careful it is like democracy if your not careful becomes a tyranny

Eat shit, paki nigger, my bloodline doesn't have a single russian in it

Not yet ... but soon

US now almost as leftist as the Soviet Union was

but its all capitalisms fault

It's funny how a 300 year long period of economic growth and increasing living conditions comes to a screeching halt and its all the fault of the previous system and not the current one.

flag

Your nan got raped by ziggers, Hans Ivanovich

Communism of course. The people whose labour builds things should have rights over said things. That's common sense. Capital produces literally nothing.

Neither.

Fascism, the way of Adolf Hitler

Chinese communism is the natural evolution of communism. That thing that eastern europeans did not reach because they thought a country with cocacola and niggers would be better for some reason

commieblocks where paid with peoples taxes. but in capitalist country for some reason you pay taxes and need also 40 years wagecucking to afford an apartment

USA has no health insurance, only a few poor people get subsidies. The new law eliminates these subsidies in order to further reduce taxes for the rich.

USA has become communist.
Ok.

When I lived in russia I had an uncle that still lived in a commie block (he was a sailor all his life), and while it was nice and clean, i'd still never wish anyone to live there today. The interior did not get a remodel not once, so it looks the same as it was built and given to him all those years ago. I had an argument with him once when he argued that communism gave him free housing, and i tried to explain to him that everyones collective labor paid for the house which was not of good quality, and he just got angry and called me an american loving pidor.

Enough with the antisemitism.

Mh. No one I know was raped. But when I look at ukraine, I'm pretty sure you should tape up your hole.
Seriously - do you really think Europe would go to war for you?

What is eminent domain and taxes

Sit down and shut the fuck up if you know nothing about the subject.

Left pic is also free housing in the US (or some low income housing type thing).

Communism

Sadly capitalism doesn't exit when banks, corporations and politicians don't play by the rules

Yes, the US is too socialist.

do you really think Europe would go to war for you?

Lmao, even i won't go to war for this shithole run by soviet commies, their family and friends. Or the (((foreign))) investors. There is nothing to take or defend here, lololol. Also i'm not poor. I can sit out 10 years in Argentina easily. Don't worry about me.

dood everything sucks

but I'm not going to do anything to fix it :)

You should be lined up against the wall with the pakis

I'm considering a trailer home at this point.
New ones are kinda nice

Ah I see, you’re just a stupid coonsoomer shill. Thanks for posting this corporate propaganda thread you piece of trash. I hope you are glad you contribute to society by being a janitor for the corporations. Make sure to double vax boost yourself and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

Commie Blocks in Poland were financed by Western banks! It is hillarious you try to post this shit unironically! It took fucking decades of poverty to pay back those loans! Free my ass!

The thing is, if Russia wasn't communist, housing would be built more efficiently. As far as I remember, Russia is now building more housing per year than the entire USSR at its peak.

Oleks Tiit Madisson riiki juhtinud, oleks äkki asja saanud. Praeguseks on kõik maha müüdud. Mida sa siin enam päästad? Pööbel marssigu surma, sina esirindel, Paavo

I would take a free apartment if I could sound proof it and fix it up

my dystopia is better than your dystopia

Sick and tired of normies quarreling over their jewish economic systems.

Welcome to the projects bitch

Capitalism is Anglo (Germanic), Communism is German (Germanic). What you posted is also Germanic.

America be like

YOU WILL PAY 2/3 OF YOUR MONTHLY PAY TO LIVE IN A COMMIE BLOCK APPARTMENT

YOU WILL NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE

YOU WILL BE HAPPY

would you rather live in a commbieblock with slavs or an apartment section 8 with nigs?

Corporations only have so much power in partnership with the government.

can we just agree that it's industrialism that sucks no matter what coat of paint it has on

Found it. In 2019, Russia commissioned twice as much living space as the USSR at its peak.

I'm correcting myself: like the RSFSR at its peak. The entire USSR had about the same amount as Russia has now.

The vast majority of people can't buy shit now. No flat no nothing.
Personally i prefer cuckpitalism. Since it's easier for me to navigate but clearly it's not for other people.

Siis käi Madissoni jälgedes, selle asemel, et urgu peitu pugeda. Kogu see jama toimub ainult sellepärast, et inimesed on liiga heatahtlikud ja tallaalused, hirmuvalitsus on see mis lubab inimesi kontrollida, öeldakse seadusega, et nii ei tohi, ja loll kuuletub. Euroopa inimesed peavad ühinema ja relvad kätte võtma, kui pead lendama hakkavad saab ka kõige lollem neeger aru, et aeg on lahkuda, kui keegi eurovalitsusele vastu ei hakka, siis nad teevadki oma sitta edasi, aga kui miljonid on uksetaga, et sind risti lüüa, siis on sinu valitsus läbi. Ei saa tulla mingit revolutsiooni, kui kõik saba jalgevahel ära jooksevad, oleks aeg püsti seista ja rotid välja ajada.

unity

fuck off

Looks cool

Most of that new housing is in Moscow and a few major urban cities. Go to small towns and it looks like nothing new was build in 50 years

Sigma Capcommunism

Why should anyone give a fuck about small towns? Urbanization is the key.

Oot, ma pean nüüd surema riigi eest mis on mind terve elu piiranud ja maksustanud? Mis kuradi Madissoni jälgedes? Ma olinniiöelda marurahvuslane ja käisin üritustel jne. Peale Sinimägedes veteranide üritusel käimist hakkas KaPo mulle helistama ja üritas igasuguseid asju uurida meie patriootide kohta. Tahtis kitseks teha ja pakkus igasuguseid asju. Mõne aja pärast paar "kamraadi" läksid mendiks. Siis sain aru, et siin ei olegi midagi organiseerida. Nüüdseks on "not my problem" seisukoht. Siin muudabki seisu ainult sõda või riigipööre. Ma parem istun oma suvilas ja käin kalal kuni veel riiki on.

Urbanization is what causes population decline.
Kazakhstan still has net population growth because they have large rural population and it’s customary to return to your home village to get married and settle down

not maintaining infrastructure built by the soviets since the USSR collapsed

somehow this is communism's fault

capitalism is when you don't have to work

le China hasn't been communist since the 80s reddit meme

The butthurt belt. Every single time.

American capitalism

labour your whole life

still not even be able to have a shitty home to yourself

pathetic

neither

living in big cities to serve/wagecuck for capitalistic oligarchs isn't good for your soul, pure behavioral sink, don't ask why population is declining everywhere

I also heard they get benefits for snitching

lol how to sing up?

both are bad
national socialism is the optimal

Wow! New fancy house! Praise capitalism!

It was possible to buy pre war due to more sane APR and mother/familiy capital stuff, but now at 25% apr, holy fuck anyone buying a house/apartment now and not in cash is retarded (or hoping the economy crashes and money becomes worthless again).
You can buy a house no problem here, just not in every state. Why people are terrified to buy outside of nyc/cali for some reason is beyond me. Even texas houses can be had at a decent rate compared to the above.
Honestly for a starting family/20-30s year olds, that kind of housing is perfectly acceptable. The only negative with these house is just they are usually located in seedy parts of town, which is less of a problem of the houses themselves but the people living there.

If you actually think the US hasn't been getting more leftist then you're truly a fucking retard.

it was given via your employer, and in during the commie system it was illegal to be unemployed kek. upside is, many workplaces were literal adult daycares, places with 10 employees operated with 30-40 semi-neets

becoming homosexual, tranny, and literal jewish worshippers isn't leftism (for the rest of the world), is called american bipoler sickness, the pendulum beetween banks funding homosexual parades, and funding neoconservatives

Siin muudabki seisu ainult sõda või riigipööre

Ja täpselt seda ongi vaja, kogu euroopa rahvas peab võtma ohjad oma kätte ja sunniviisiliselt hävitama kõik kes meie maad mürgitavad, selle asemel, et lasta ennast vaikselt ära tappa. Andestus ja argus ei ole lahendus, kurjus tuleb maapõuest üles juurida ja ära tappa, et temast lahti saada.

<---- this is the proper answer
But there is more to this answer I believe.. if you say neither then you must offer up a solution. Of all the systems of government we've developed there are types that have yet to be conceptualized.. it is one of these unknown forms of government that is the solution.
Why has it been so long since a new form of government has been devised? It would seem people have accepted the idea that we've exhausted all ideas of how to run a country. What I would like to know is why? Why is it either you do communism or socialism or capitalism (and so on)?
There is a form of government that is required that is tailored to the modern world. As a whole society has changed massively since say communism was developed.. how can we, as anons and the source of all information and knowledge in the modern world, create a new and more beneficial form of government? It is our responsibility as anons to engineer this new government. How can we combine the best bits of socialism/capitalism/communism/ ect ect AND ADD something we have not yet thought of to create a more content and efficient society?
Anons! Help me! Help the world! And how can we include excluding Jews, chinks and trannies from our new world?!

Ahah, sa mine otsi Euroopas valget meest kellel testosterooni tase korras on :D sa ikka näed millised nohikud ja pekilõustad meil tänavatel käivad? Pool Euroopat on murjameid täis kes oma sotsiaalabi ära ei taha anda, nad on riikidest sõltuvad. Isegi siin samas lehel kõik niiäeöda "rebelid" ja "natsid" ei suuda milleski kokkuleppele jõuda. Lõpeta teiste pärast muretsemine. Pane enda perekond esikohale ja ongi kogu muusika.

What about syndicalism then?

upside is, many workplaces were literal adult daycares, p

it's great for most neets.

even low skill trash could earn enough money and live as a human while do nothing.

now enjoy hard work 996
5 max floor apartments - best

new russian 50 floor apartments - hell

I am not familiar with this form of government, it is a delight to learn of it.
I have googled it and the immediate results are "anarcho-syndicalism" and "National syndicalism".. which do you suggest or do you mean to imply some combination of the two? Please, assist me to understand what you intend?

t. slavnigger in Italy

non sarai mai Italiano, negro

becoming leftist isn't leftist to the rest of the world

Then you're stupid

There is a third way.

strong sense of community

I love it when westoid momma's boys hark about communism being this and that without having zero exposure to it.

Are you using a chatbot to write your posts? They feel very artificial.

500k

Live at home for free with parents

made with cardboard

Yes

can't go anywhere without a car

True but at least we can afford one lmao

multiethnic

Well over 90% White

no sense of community

I can go take a walk at midnight and not be robbed, raped, or killed. Close enough.

beaner music

Not really but I'm in bed by then because I have a job, unless most lazy shitalians

Lol no, nigger
Jesus Christ, what's your malfunction French faggot?

Urbanization is what causes population decline.

Nope. It may be a factor, still there is no direct relationship.

That's a silly one. You have an access literally millions of girls in big city. It's clear the problem isn't here.

As I think, it's not about life circumstances at all. It's about culture or, let me put it this way, ideology.

Additionally I would like to declare that I am not autistic.

dork thinks commieblocks are better

Lol, even lmao.

Western commie fags talk about community and then want your life destroyed for saying mean words on the internet a decade ago. They're the most insane, alienating, and humorless people to ever live. They have no community and never will because no one can stand to be around them.

Why lie?

About what?
About being autistic?
I have never been formally diagnosed and have no sought to diagnose myself. Why bother?
Whether or not one is autistic is irrelevant.
You're a nigger.

Our past two presidents on both sides have been pro corporations. Biden & Harris gave no fucks about the cost of living besides a pathetic tax credit. If what you say is true Bernie would be in charge. Neck yourself, eat shit, die and get a real job.

A storage cylinder for freon, according to experts, was the most likely cause of the explosion on May 3 in the apartment of a residential building in the Levoberezhny microdistrict of Khimki near Moscow.

Yeah, it's better and walls doesn't bend outside.

that cherry picking

Seems you're a commie, right? A familiar style.

you wouldn't have anything to worry about unless you were a dirty capitalist, in which case you deserved it

You can buy a house no problem here, just not in every state

America has a 65% "home ownership" rate and that statistic includes every single person who lives in a building which the landlord also legally occupies.
Communist countries all have 90%+ home ownership rates, China is at fucking 97%. 97% of people own homes imagine that. And you never even own your home in America, you have to pay property taxes for life and so do your kids if they inherit it. There is also eminent domain laws and such. Houses are for living in, not to be used for speculation by rent-seekers.

Yugoslavia is europe. It was liberal communism. Ussr was a bunch of retarded mongols.

who lives in

Referring to renters. Everyone in America who rents a home in or part of a house legally occupied by a landlord is counted as a "home owner" for statistical purposes.

they need both to keep the circle of shit flowing

Anon you are absolutely fucking retarded and should KYS immediately.

The concrete shit blocks of the USSR and their satellites are the biggest blights of architecture man has ever seen and you're obviously some "LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT UR COUNTEEE", like brown handed zoomer or gen Alpha faggot lord who knows fuck all about the real world.

T. someone who's relatives used to live under the Warsaw Pact, unlike you.

Okay, autist

Communism. I like "from each according to his ability to each according to his needs". I get that communism is godless or antithetical to religion but I can still believe in God secretly. Capitalism is shit for people like me. I want anarchy but that's not going to happen, and if it does it's just going create warlords it'll be transitional. Mankind is a sick and twisted species. We would all be much better off if billions died.

Ah my favorite game: decommissioned asylum, mid-20th century prison or commie block?

We would all be much better off if billions died.

Coming up by 2050. But life wont improve for plebs

uuuuh I remember those dark days.
There were flats like this in small city I visited.
Full of alcoholics and gypsies.

God is irrelevant from a materialist perspective so long as you define god as the totatilty of being and not something metaphysically beyond. In some ways the beliefs of Calvinism and the material parametric determinism of Marxism are coherent, that being that things were always going to go a certain way.

Russia is not monoethnic

commies blocks in our country were build 60 years ago, they still stand to this day

That looks ugly as all shit and poorly built on the outside, let alone on the inside.

P.S. Yugoslavia was always a shithole and there's a reason it also collapsed you retarded Mongol and Ottoman rape baby faggot.

J E W I S H
D I L E M M A

First of all, it is important how many floors the building has. The USSR standards established several categories of durability of residential buildings, depending on their height. 3-5-story houses were built for a period of 50-100 years, for houses of 6 floors and higher, the durability was calculated for at least 100 years

>cardboard frame can last forever with maintenance

>concrete no more than 10 years

Clearly all the videos and photos of your lifeless concrete shit blocks collapsing because peasants with no money have no motivation to properly build, let alone mantain shit are all faked because muh communism accord to some faggot Yugo who funnily enough left his communist paradise for Italy.

You're actually among the shittiest excuses of sub 50 IQs to exist and will be first along the wall with the Kikes who's idealogy you wopship.

I forget what I read exactly but historically communism is hostile toward religious people and institutions. Stuff like this:

While the churches were generally not as severely treated as they had been in the Soviet Union, nearly all their schools and many of their churches were closed, and they lost their formally prominent roles in public life. Children were taught atheism, and clergy were imprisoned or killed by the thousands.

neither free nor cheap and the waiting line was decades, get fucked and don't bunch us up with soviets.

Anyone and anything can be russian now, there is no ethnicity "russian" that is left out of being russian therefore they are "monoethnic" rather than recognizing other ethnicities as something else if you are born in russia you are russia, your ethnicity does not matter. Its like in communism where its about all races being considered equal and one human race, lmao.

Wrong. Your ethnicity does matter, it's just not given much importance in Russia

Check'd. I bet if you remove the kike and secret societies full of shabbos goys, any regime can be made to work properly. Right planning and long term goals.

I remember this silent hill game. Every door in that stairwell has a broken lock

Neither

Wrong. Your ethnicity does matter, it's just not given much importance in Russia

nice.
care to explain like the ethnicity in your area

Bullshit, faggot. It was an easy way to try and fuck over someone you disliked or were feuding with,

Communism is hostile to idealism and idealists having political control. You are free to practice your religion in say China but the churches have no power, they are more like the original house churches of early Christianity. In reality it is probably closer to what the religion intended than the megachurches and TV pastors that arise from the synthesis of freedom of religion and the free market. Marx's "opium of the masses" quote is always taken out of context theists and atheists alike. If you read the full text he was explaining how it is conceivable why the masses, isolated from the products of their labour, have a need for such a thing and was rather not denigrating it as a stupifying veil. It is an objective material analysis of the basis of religion, that it can only exist in society of artificial scarcity and imperative competition where the need for "salvation" can foster. Remember that opium in Marx's time was not seen like heroin or something like that, it was more of a tonic and general panacea.

I'm from Moscow, Officially, 90% of the population are Russians.

They do the same thing in China, the outsides of the buildings look post apocalyptic and the insides of the apartments look fine. They wont even fix elevator lights if they go out. They will use the elevator in complete darkness rather than replace the bulb. No one wants to chip in for maintenance so no maintenance is done. It is definitely a result of post communism.

Right image shows you where we're heading, with regulatory capture, restrictions, red tape, Central planning, Central banking. You end up with over priced "Luxury apartments" with no alternatives. Big financial institutions backstopped by easy money policies buy up these blocks. Regulatory capture means you can't just buy land and build whatever house you want due to "zoning restrictions".
Eventually these same financial elites seize political power and just say fuck it and throw your ass in the image on the right and strip your remaining freedom and charge you in labor and compliance rather than currency.

communism

post communism

what? Also China is still a developing country with heavy industry that creates a lot of pollution, why do you compare it to places like Scandinavia who can be clean because China makes everything? Everything new in China looks great and they are building faster than anyone. France is dirty. UK is dirty. Japan is getting dirtier. You know where is clean? Ashgabat. Bishkek. Your whole cities in America are filthy too, I have been there. What is your excuse? Going to blame your underclass again? The Jews? External locus of control?

Sorry I was thinking of Dushanbe, Bishkek is fucked too.

No such thing as Capitalism. That's just a Marxist straw man to describe a state of human affairs that Marx pondered about while never leaving his rich friend's house and speculating on the London stock exchange between writing hypocritical letters to his Jewish Uncle bragging about it like the hypocritical Kike he was. No such thing as Communism either. That's just a Marxist Utopian fantasy. Communism is just an end-point in the Marxian theory of history and not a system of government or economic system.

why do they never update them? Get the residents to pool some money for some renovations?

Communism. We still had above replacement level birthrates and little to no immigration. Life also didn't concentrate in four biggest cities leaving everywhere else as a desolate wasteland. Now we are fast approaching Worst Korea levels of birthrates, we have massive third world immigration and everything aside from a couple of biggest cities is hollowing out. Funny how communists expected Poland to reach 60 million by 2020 while now we are on a fast track of going extinct by 2100. Turns out capitalism is a death of a nation.

Communism is inevitable
Economies are deterministic

eternal concrete