If atheism is good, why are most atheists depressed?

Who said heroin was bad? It just gets expensive after a while, that's the only drawback.

thinking the void is a bad thing

No, they have no conception of void.

noooo, don't stare into the void! Don't ponder it!

You assume that because someone doesn't believe in your brand of bullshit religion that they are an atheist. I've actually had plenty of supernatural experiences, and I know that there is a spirit world. None of those experiences prove that your religion is the right one.

My current running theory is that god is the universe, and he works through the laws of nature. I've also had evidence of a spirit world. I'm just speculating, just like any stupid book you come at me with.

what do when void looks back?

void looks back

"Huh. Neat."

later realize Void was telling you to fuck off

"Oh."

I used to be an atheist. Feel better now. Also fuck the bible.

Because it isn't good.
I have never met a 'happy' addict of any kind. Addicts are not happy people, they're miserable and develop unhealthy coping mechanisms to deal with intense phycological trauma, heroin in specific triggering the experience of near suicide. The appeal of heroin is that it feels like killing yourself without actually going through with it. You have to be psychologically damaged to even consider doing it in any capacity.

I have never met a happy heroin addict. They don't exist. Are you retarded?

because they have already cut off their close family for being toxic and never have family of their own so they live an empty life without any deep connection or purpose.

the void is good!

The void done stared back at dis nigga.

pointing out the objective statistical fact that a vast majority of atheists suffer from depression and unfulfilling lives is a strawman

The only thing that getting upset over the question and refusing to answer it displays is that you're incapable of dealing with difficult that challenge your worldview. You should try exploring more constructive and coherent worldviews and abandon atheism if it causes such inherent misery. but that would require a humility you fail to possess. You enjoy being wrong and unhappy.

No need to project

you're wrong and the memefaggot is right. having faith is how you maintain a positive outlook and thus manifest things in your reality.

atheists are childless trannies with trauma, ptsd addicted to anti depressants and never call their mom or dad because they can't maintain any normal relationships, not even with their own parents.

atheists are childless trannies with trauma

Sorry bro but I've been marries for 10 years and have kids.

No need to keep projecting

having faith is how you maintain a positive outlook and thus manifest things in your reality.

For you. That's great. I don't have a need for "faith"

look here namefaggot i calls em like i sees em and you are the biggest homosexual itt right now.

Because a painful truth is still better than a comforting lie.

>pointing out the objective statistical fact that a vast majority of atheists suffer from depression and unfulfilling lives is a strawman

The image in the OP is a strawman. And atheism has nothing to do with "good" or "bad".

Try again :^)

i calls em like i sees em

That's why you keep projecting because it's all you see in your life

So when will you answer the OP's question instead of ignoring it. If your only response to hardship is to ignore it then it proves you aren't capable of dealing with it.

Depression, suicide, stress, all this shit is higher in more intelligent populations. Niggers are too fucking stupid to contemplate anything or feel shame for being unable to provide for their families and being permanent leaches, so they never get stressed or depressed over it. Asians will AACK over getting a B+. And to nobody's surprise niggers are very religious and Asians aren't.

So when will you answer the OP's question instead of ignoring it.

It's irrelevant. But for me it's great.

If your only response to hardship is to ignore

Huh? Orlf course ignoring harsldship is bad. It's an opportunity to learn and grow. This also has nothing to do with atheism.

damn you are all over 4plebs i'm not going to keep scrolling back you tr00n atheist obsessed with shilling on any thread about Christianity.

Orlf course

Of course*

Because the world revolves around retarded theists and their dumb fuck religions and we are all worse off because of it.

Why are you fangirling an anon on an anime board?

damn you are all over 4plebs

The fact that your worldview correlates inherently to human misery on a societal wide scale is irrelevant? Why shouldn't people have all atheists round up and killed on a societal scale if socializing it inherently correlates to greater human suffering?

is this your job or something?

If we rounded up and killed all the abrahamics in the world you'd have White ethnostates again :^)

That's a lie, most atheists are not depressed.

Churches, synagogues and mosques provide mental health counseling to their followers to keep them out of the 'system' that measures number of patients seen for these kinds of services. So religious people are deliberately underrepresented in surveys.

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As soon as you some dipshit post

atheists believe

You can stop right there because he's dumber than fuck or deceptively dishonest. Many beliebers are both.

The fact that your worldview correlates inherently to human misery

How exactly? When atheism is nothing more than disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods?

Why shouldn't people have all atheists round up and killed on a societal scale if socializing it inherently correlates to greater human suffering?

Did an atheist hurt your feelings?

why are you sticking up for a namefag?

arbitrary gay anime board rules

Not really helping your case here, gay theist.

If atheism is good, why are most atheists depressed?

Because depression is good.

most atheists are not depressed.

Yes they are. They're almost all on some sort of psychoactive drug to treat their mental illnesses. They have a suicide rate several times higher than theists as well.

gay theist.

Kek

it's not a rule simp

Go suck another cock you silly faggot

atheism is very similar to veganism. They are both against human nature and you need to know what you are doing to not end up fucking up your body or mind.

life is much easier if you eat everything and believe in something bigger than yourself (does not need to be organized religion).

Men have a suicide rate several times higher than women. Whites have a suicide rate several times higher than niggers.

simp

Found the shitskin. You're the one stalking his old posts, right? Go be a gossipy faggot on kiwifarms.

They are both against human nature

Everyone born is naturally an atheist

Atheism

I BELIEVE

you fucked up

you must be very excited for pride month it's just around the corner non-anon. all your people will be there.

continues to dodge questions

Lol. I will take your responses as concession unless you provide straight answers to the questions asked. You've failed to defend and articulate the value of your beliefs and shown that they cannot stand up to scrutiny because your only response to prodding is weaseling away from criticism and refusing to tackle it.

Happy is the man who finds wisdom.

doesn't understand amino acids

ngmi

Believers fall for lies and spread lies

leftists are some of the most bitter and violent people on the internet. zero reason to take advice from them when it comes to lifestyles or how a country should be run

i took a ridiculous amount of DMT one time and saw a red serpent in front of me
if only you knew

you must be very excited for pride month

Nah, can't stand that shit.

>continues to dodge questions

Here let me help you

But for me it's great.

What am I dodging exactly?

You've failed to defend and articulate the value of your beliefs

Where was that asked exactly?

bruh muh semantics fr fr

lol your life sucks

Who filled your head with these lies?

Everything is God PEROID

Because we have to live in a society run by jews. Can't you even change it around a bit and give another psychopathic religious minority a chance?
Jfc, what a shitshow.

Why are there so many atheist slide threads? Does it have to do with the pretend Christian trad thing that popped up here a few years ago?

I used to be an atheist, they're depressed because they're generally higher iq and can realistically ascertain the state of things. You, with your simplistic worship, are more like a yellow lab

go

i don't think i will, simp. happy pride, btw. it's the one month of the year where you and your kind get to be loud and proud in the streets.

The sheer stupidity in that graphic. Wow

Your concession has been accepted.

There is evidence that life arose from simple chemical reactions and absolutely no evidence that any gods exist. Sorry but only one of these beliefs are ridiculous

The internet has ruined me, I see Kermit and I automatically hear Jordan Peterstein talking about bedeviled bedazzled beezelbubs.

You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions :^)

You're unmarried and childless dude, stop pretending. That's never going to change. Mesa anon and I together probably have more kids than every christcel on this board combined lmao.

We are sad that retarded superstitious idiots have destroyed society.

Nah, can't stand that shit.

damn that's unfortunate. it's such an important month for millions atheists all over the world. you must feel a bit left out.

I have a favorite sportsball team

therefor everyone must also have a favorite sportsball team

what do you mean you don't care for sports?? how can you not be into sports???

weaaaaak as fuck kek.

No one knows you, but from your attitude in this thread, you're right, you don't need faith. You need therapy, because you're adversarial, angry and petty.

damn that's unfortunate

Maybe for you

Why hasn't jewsus gifted you a trad wife, shitskin bro? Not praying hard enough. Come on mexcrement just get on your knees for a jew harder :^)

i'm not an atheist though so pride month means nothing to me, same with antifa/blm. i've nothing in common with any of those groups.

Men have a suicide rate several times higher than women. Whites have a suicide rate several times higher than niggers.

What's your point? White males have higher rates of depression and anxiety. As do atheists.

i'm not an atheist though

Atheism is lack of Love, since God is Love. I know this bothers you a lot.

quite a twisted imagination you have there. that's what atheism does to you.

I apologize for nothing

I make up lies and I fall for lies

It's obvious

Atheism is lack of Love

Correct. It's just a disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods

since God is Love. I know this bothers you a lot.

Not at all, you're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions :^)

It's right here Speak up shitskin bro, I can't hear you over the mariachi music.

perhaps you can celebrate juneteenth with your fellow atheists. that may help you feel better.

I'm a depressed chronically anxious incel because I have a high IQ

Classic cope. Too bad most atheists are midwits

They're happy when they're on Heroin

this is actually not true. Homo sapiens was not the best Homo out there. Not the fastest, definitely not the smartest or the strongest. Then one day they started burying their dead with their belongings for some fucked up reason and ate the world.

You can look at 7000 years of human history and you will never find any group of people anywhere in the planet that did not believe in something greater, leave a bunch of stray sailors in an island and they will build fifty foot statues.

I don't think atheists exist. The reason they're so depressed is they believe God exists but don't feel him and that sucks, especially when there as the so many theists claiming to have a personal relationship with God. Instead of mocking them you should try to connect them to God

kek weak reply 0/10.

depressed

Cope

chronically anxious

Cope

incel

Lmfao see Do you deny that more intelligent countries have higher suicide rates? Do you deny that more intelligent countries have lower religiosity rates? How far are you going to take the copetrain?

If depression is bad? Why do most people experience it?

roast me harder, daddy!

Alright done with your sexual fetishes, freak. You'll still beg for more though because it's the male attention you crave.

this is actually not true.

It us. There isn't a baby born with knowledge of God or gods. They are taught this

And depending on where you're born, will determine what religion you become.

Why won't my Christian friends shut up about "persecution" and lamenting about how evil and sinful they are? half of them took antidepressants as well. If YHWH has your back why you crying so hard? Damn.

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the truth is depressing
being able to see through all the bullshit is depressing
being around retards who think magic is real is depressing because they fuck everything up
jej
you think being a delusional retard is good because you ignore all the evil and refuse to admit your religion is very bad.
i was depressed as a christian
when i realized just how big the pile of religious bullshit is, i got extremely angry as well as more depressed.
there is no magic to make justice or anything better
there is no afterlife to look forward to
there is no god to do anything, never was
instead the earth is filled with delusional schizophrenic gullible retards who can't into the harsh reality we are all actually living in.

brazil

all niggers should die
if all niggers were dead i would not be so depressed

Do you deny that the most "intelligent" countries are committing genocide against themselves and replacing their own peoples with third word shitskins? Your entire argument hinges on the correlation == causation logical fallacy, which is ironic considering you're supposed to have superior logic as a euphorically gifted atheist.

this marvel movie of a religion again

I grew up catholic and it was peaceful. Though the institution itself is absolutely retarded as they lost my confirmation record.
Later in life I look into protestantism and it's just megachurches and rock band churches where they all play triangles in the pews and play heads up 7up type school games.
American Christianity is absolutely abhorrent lol

why are most atheists depressed?

are they?

Now do a suicide rates map.

and there it is, copypasted from r/trans

So the goal of religion is to feel good?

So you're not in pursuit of 'truth', whatever that may be.

Your question exposes that you're the type of person who will simply believe what they WANT to be true, not what is true.

You seek comfort, not what may or may not be true.

Looking at the 'truth' often makes a person's core nature recoil, why? Because your nature isn't built for truth, it is built for survival and propagation. That is what it seeks under all the distortions caused by the various beliefs picked up in a lifetime. So, a common idea is that all meaning is imaginary, a mental construct. This makes one's nature recoil when in tandem with the belief that people are fallible. Because maybe everything you're doing is wrong, and now you have to find truth before doing the 'right' thing; and you may never find it. So it is a life of insecurity and being lost, looking for something that may not even exist. Living with a malingering angst at the back of your mind..

OR, just believe what is comfortable, afterall, a lot of other people believe it, and you believe that when a lot of people believe something that it is more likely to be true.

You ultimately either question your nature, or you don't.

Those that question their nature may realize that nature itself is irrational; and from there, may conclude it is a mistake. Death.

Those who don't question their nature obey their feelings without question. There is no reflection; they will just believe what makes them feel good. Life.

When you align with your nature, your life will often become "better", in the sense of serving your core drives, even if it pushes you further from 'truth' (which may be unobtainable).

People who seek truth often end up alienated from their own nature, and from those who obey it; which is sad, because they seek awareness and truth.

The irony being that your pursuit of truth, which was intended to serve your survival, when pushed too far, can ultimately undermine it.

perhaps you can celebrate juneteenth

I like it because my job gives me a paid day off LMAO

that's very good, i'm glad you can feel gratitude towards your fellow atheists and antifa/blm members, they worked hard to get you that day off.

/thread
but don't need to be that grim anon, accept the void and the emotionless of reality, accept that having or not a god doesn't matter because we insignificant small on the grand scheme of things.
But as fantasy books would say, even a ant can rise and challenge the very heavens themselves!
Is not depressing if you're truly autist and can't separate and organized things, see from other angles.
And not the point of focus you are making, other points that you are not seeing.

I'm not an atheist, but you're obviously one of the people too stupid to ever experience any of the stress or depression I was talking about and you're very butthurt about it kek.

correlation =/= causation

Case in point, you're a subwit spouting retarded reddit platitudes. Once again, for you, you dumbfuck, low IQ people are too stupid to have the self-awareness to kill themselves. That's why niggers aren't killing themselves despite all being broke ass drug addicts with kids they can't feed.

I knew the little faggot would beg for attention again, what a whipped bitch kek.

that's very good,

Free money :^)

Your evidence proves you were lying when you falsely claimed

most atheists are depressed

Isn't lying considered to be wrong in your religion?

I used to be depressed. Coincidentally that's also when I was an atheist. You have no argument. Just baseless assumptions about a stranger.

low IQ people are too stupid to have the self-awareness to kill themselves.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2881197/

Results 17736 (1.6%) men had at least one hospital admission for attempted suicide by any means during follow-up. After adjustment for age and socioeconomic status, lower IQ scores were associated with an elevated risk of attempted suicide by any means (hazard ratio per standard deviation decrease in IQ=1.57, 95% confidence interval 1.54 to 1.60), with stepwise increases in risk across the full IQ range (P for trend<0.001). Similar associations were observed for all specific methods of attempted suicide. Separate analyses indicated that associations between IQ and attempted suicide were restricted to participants without psychosis and that IQ had no marked impact on risk of attempted suicide in those with psychosis.

Conclusions Low IQ scores in early adulthood were associated with a subsequently increased risk of attempted suicide in men free from psychosis. A greater understanding of the mechanisms underlying these associations may provide opportunities and strategies for prevention.

Coincidentally

Yep it sure is.

National IQ was significantly positively related to the national male and female suicide rate.

researchgate.net/publication/222414447_National_intelligence_and_suicide_rate_An_ecological_study_of_85_countries
You lose again, christfaggot. How fucking dumb do you have to be to convert as an adult? Did you actually read the torah in your fucking 30s and think that shit made sense? Hahahahaha goddamn dude.

I don't know what the point of that argument would even be anyway. Believing the truth is sad, so you should believe comforting lies instead? Is that the theist argument?

I used to be depressed. Coincidentally that's also when I was an atheist.

Good on you leafe bro!

So the goal of religion is to feel good?

Obviously. You don't feel good if you are away from your Creator.

So you're not in pursuit of 'truth', whatever that may be.

The truth don't turn you depressed and suicidal. It only makes you stronger and happy.

You seek comfort, not what may or may not be true.

No, I seek the true way. The narrow and hard path is the one that leads to true happiness.

3) go kiss nigger feet christbitch

OP utterly blown the fuck out.

in all honesty i'm a little jealous. junteenth isn't celebrated where i am.

IDs exist for a reason, retard.

Your study is looking at national averages, not individual people. Your argument was about individual people. You appear to be a low IQ atheist yourself.

now do cinco de mayo

Your study is looking at national averages

Your argument was about individual people

Hahahaha yeah you're a fucking retard, no wonder you're an adult who takes the torah literally.

are you going to use your superior logic skills to refute what I said or are you going to do what low IQ atheists always do and resort to ad hominems? You really are intelectually gifted.

Bro I work for The LEGO Group, they are so fluffed with woke shit its nuts, but they are also the best job I ever had. Both in pay, benefits, work/life balance.

this is just evidence that religion is for groomed kids and loser adults who can't help themselves

I mean, you can't imagine the implications of a world governed by nothing instead of a loving God and there being nothing (something more difficult to wrap your head around than anything).

It's impressive what nothing can do to a man

Your gluteal distress is palpable, sis. If you weren't such a faggot you wouldn't need jewsus to get through the first world problems you couldn't cope with.

no pride parades, no juneteenth, no cinco. some people around here celebrate st. patricks day though.

Haha right, nobody ever converts when they're succeeding in life. It's always when they're beaten down, which is why bible sales go up during economic and political uncertainty.

Silly atheists think there is only one religion in the world

that makes sense, being atheist does pay pretty well there is a lot of benefits to it these days.

There are two that 2/3 of the world followm

judaism (messianic judaism, rabbinic judaism, and quranic judaism)

h*nduism

a large part of atheism is coming to terms with the idea that just because you psychologically need something to be true, doesn't make it true
depression is the obvious outcome of an awful world
there is no personal caring god, no purpose, no meaningful activity, you will watch your family die without hope to see them again
being an atheist isnt some mark of pride; it's an acknowledgement of the bitter truth

being atheist does pay pretty well

Kek, atheism has nothing to do with it. Plenty of Christians work there too lol

Then learn Japanese and go Shinto, fag

Nooo, God won't let me jack off to gay porn and do drugs! I hate Him!!! Fuck you Mom and Dad!!!! Stop making me go to Church!!!!

That's atheism in a nutshell

you are confused, believing in something greater than yourself has nothing to do with organized religion.

there has never been any "atheist" tribe anywhere on earth. Go to africa, the amazon, aboriginals, people stranded in islands, raised by wolves it does not matter. Belief is built in, ignoring it is possible for an individual but not healthy

you are confused, believing in something greater than yourself has nothing to do with organized religion.

Yeah, a lot of atheists think theism and religion are the same thing (forgetting that there are plenty of religions that don't have a de-facto 'god')

I wonder how much of it can be cured with a healtier diet?

Maybe 80 years ago when the nips were very honorabru, but not now

atheism is why you get paid time off on juneteenth, though.

Right, but what if it isn't? What if the predisposition to believe in something invisible that explains why concepts like order and justice exist isn't just of the flesh?

life coming from non life is just as ridiculous as it coming from a god

so where did it come from?
no, you're not allowed to wuss out with some lame "I don't know" crap because in this context and based on your attitude and what you said that would be a completely bullshit crap answer.

Shinto hasn't changed much since ~700ad.
You should check it out

believing in something greater than yourself has nothing to do with organized religion

I never said it did. Sure one can think there is something greater. That comes in many forms, like genuine empathy.

there has never been any "atheist" tribe anywhere on earth

I never said there was. Here's what I said

And depending on where you're born, will determine what religion you become.

Go to africa, the amazon, aboriginals, people stranded in islands, raised by wolves it does not matter.

Exactly. These people are taught this by their ancestors. That's why none of these will ever be a Christian, unless they're shown and taught

Well thanks for proving my point. Time for bed now. Christ is King.

Yeah, a lot of atheists think theism and religion are the same thing (forgetting that there are plenty of religions that don't have a de-facto 'god')

Some do, just like some Christians think that you're an atheist if you don't believe in their God. For the very same reason you stated

You evangelical christcucks are the worst kind of intellectual niggers. Why the fuck does believing in god excludes the belief that life came from non-life? What you trying to sell by the name of faith is religious fundametalism, which is not better than islamic ir jewish one. Go kiss ass to your greatest allies while they spit on you.
On the point of personal and social aspect of organised religion - of course it helps. Those religions that were less constructive, vanished in history. It really helps you and society to live, but that doesn't mean that some jews saw talking snakes and truthfully passed that knowledge.

Just ad much as Christians who voted for it.

C'mon make a better argument than trying to find a gotcha

Isn't that just tree and ancestor worship for zipperheads? If I'm going to LARP I'll just be druid or something kek

crusty kang

Brown coded.

nobody wants to be atheist. they saw the evidence for both sides and realized that one was obviously true

But all of these are certain there is a veil with something behind it. It's a human trait that I don't think serves a real biological purpose. What would tribes do without it? The exact same thing. They'd cling to their tribe all the same as monkeys.

protip: people lie
especially about how happy they are

You should leave spicville some time.

protip: people lie
especially about how depressed others are

i disagree i don't believe my argument needs any adjustment. the effects of atheism in the modern age are clear to see and are at the core of every social and political issue across the globe. but there are indeed benefits to it and the more people that decide to be atheists the better for you.

semantics? know what you're talking about before you ever speak again, numbnuts. atheism is the absence of faith, stupid shit for brains. you catechism fucktards learn absolutely nothing.

its simple.
there is either a higher power or this is a simulation, in which case there is a higher power.
dumb people think its god
smart people think this fucking mess is a pile of contradictions and bull shit macro scale and microscale physics and "rules"
either way appealing to that higher power give some hope.
raw atheists are retarded because they dont believe in anything, not real base reality god the creator, or someone playing god of this simulation.
and one or the other must be true.
or you can pretend neil de nigger tyson telling you about jewish images from fake and gay bullshit behind the JWST is somehow better than god.

Cause at the end of the day being an athiest at root means you should kill yourself. If there is no "God" higher power however u want to define it, but some "thing" that sets morals, then that means life is essentially completely useless and means fuck all. Ok you might say "well i was already born why kill myself" ok sure. But what i will never understand is how a fuckin atheist could willingly have children. boggles my mind. Because the only intellectually honest atheist is a nihilist. simple as.

But all of these are certain there is a veil with something behind it

You mean metaphysical? Sure. It's when then metaphysical meets the esoteric. That's where tribalism really kicks in. You find people that agree on the same moral principles

i disagree

Facts are facts my man.

between medication and self delusion, I'll go with self delusion
in a Godless universe, truth has no inherent value anyway. Might as well live happy.

the effects of atheism in the modern age are clear to see

Is that why red states churches have drag queen story hour and Estonia doesn't?

then that means life is essentially completely useless and means fuck all

You said it, not us. Besides, it bears upon man to find something in life to work towards. If sucking some desert jews cock all day is your mission in life, that's on you.

well of course you needn't address anything else in my previous comment as it is hard to argue against. one of the many benefits of being Christian is i am not as easily associated with the literal demons infesting this world. good for you for getting free money though.

Seems like a bad attempt at correlation with a map. You have examples in both directions and a geographic comparison adds lots of confounding variables. I guess atheists are also bad at science.

I hear this ciope all the time "make your own meaning". Ok. Some guy decides his meaning is cutting off peoples heads and collecting them. That is no worse than a man who strives to cure cancer. If its just "whatever u decide to give meaning" means meaning exists, it means nothing again.

most atheists can not listen to 5 minutes of this without converting

click here to see for yourself

youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4rWLVAW5g

You're all a bunch of faggotpussies who would over for Chins-Isreal-India Crowd Armada

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i don't feel like talking to you you're a bit degenerate for my liking

I always wonder how they make these maps. scandinavians are comfortable but i wouldnt describe them as "happy" at all. They are sullen societies. these maps seem to me to always be made by organizations pushing for more socialism in the US and they always use scandinavia as a benchmark to show how great they are. simple manipulation.

You find people that agree on the same moral principles

The only way to get there is to worship the tribal god, though? Every people, independently, adopting this same strategy? They bred for selection in the idol worshipping population and culled those that thought "iunno"?
There's only one explanation for this I can think of.

USAID and Christianity go hand in hand. It's a poorly kept secret. You're seeing the effects now that the west turns from the "faith" and then churches bring in third worlders they've groomed back over. Atheism is their greatest fear. It's why they never shut up about it. We'd see muslims and christians team up than we'd see the "white man" ever rise if they had to pick between two options.

well of course you needn't address anything else in my previous comment

Correct. Your personal feelings are irrelevant :^)

troons out

Lol, you get the eunuch stamp of approval from rabbi jewsus.

Sounds like Jewish drivel

Depression is extremely common in homosexuals.

TMS doesn't disable parts of the brain and that study is probably garbage anyway. So much bad "neuroscience" out there.

The only way to get there is to worship the tribal god

Exactly. The TRIBES god. The tribe decides the god and builds morales around it.

Do you find it difficult to conceptualize giving life meaning by yourself? This means you're a weak man, a failure, a moral and emotional cripple that absolutely demands to be ruled by something, anything, even an corporeal ideal that doesn't really exist. Your God does not exist. Your God would not allow Israelis to genocide a bunch of brown mud people starving to death in their concentration camp.

It's a nice and pretty, comfy fantasy, sure, but it cannot be reality. You hide from the truth because you are weak and you would be crushed under the burden of having to face up to the horrible shit humans to do each other, while your God sits back and does nothing, at least this is the cope you've made yourself comfortable with; that this all-powerful God just lets us do whatever the fuck we want, unpunished. This means there is no God except us, you dumb cuck.

as you said, facts are facts.

Yeah I've got a lot on that problem.

It’s not about good nor bad. It’s just true, regardless of what the emotional/psychological consequences are. In the case of atheism, the psychological consequences are quire terrible. It is the difference between fulfillment and non-fulfillment of the self-preservation instinct. So I am regularly thinking about and losing sleep over my eventual death, but I can not bring myself to believe in stories about how “death is not real”. That’s the crux of it, I think, man’s fear of death.

life came from non-life

The instructions for self-propagation are in fact contained in nothing more than mere atoms obeying physical laws. There is no hard, metaphysical distinction between life and non-life.

order came from chaos

It only appears orderly to (you)

ancestors were pond scum

cousin of bananas

humanity came from fish

Yes we’re all running on the basic building blocks of life. We are not entirely separate from one another, just separated by hundreds of millions of years and tens of millions of states of iterative selection and adaptation. Saying “I share a common ancestor with fish” is not the same as saying “my mom is a fish”.

Like it or not, Darwinism provides an excellent explanation for the origins and diversity of life. One that flows logically, with causality, and importantly does not require introducing the element of “magic” into the universe in order to reconcile internal inconsistencies with the religious story of man.

Yes let's all be lotus eaters

Have a nice night :^)

You see, you speak as if you KNOW truth, i very clearly put 'truth' in quotation, because we don't certainly know what it is, even that we don't certainly know what it is.

You claim to seek truth, but also claim that the truth should bestow happiness, or that it certainly does. Why are you seeking what you already claim to know? Either you know it, or you don't. If you seek it, then you don't certainly know what it is.

Or perhaps you're claiming you know the direction of truth, again, how? Faith? Okay, and did you ever consider that faith provides a person with perfect security. It is believing something without doubt; doubt being fundamental to insecurity.

So you're making yourself feel secure by having faith; which of course, is comfortable. Our nature makes us uncomfortable when we don't certainly know; is it any surprise that people would take the easy way out and just believe what they want to be true to feel good?

Also, your little meme, i never said that all meaning being imaginary meant humans are insignificant; i'm actually pointing out that significance, as a concept, is just imagination. That is, you are as significant or as insignificant as your imagination tells you. The seemingly objective reality we exist in doesn't have this law baked into it outside of your mind.

Me saying this obviously bothers you, because i'm taking away your security by exposing the logic by which you came to your conclusion on faith. You want to be comfortable, and so you're threatened by what i'm saying.

Become comfortable with insecurity, and you'll be more in touch with objective reality and have a more open mind.

I remembert that around here you a fuckin wimp.

My brother tried that. It didn't work. Now he's retarded.

There is nothing in the void. It's an illusion.

he was always a retard anon

AI answer: The happiness index, most notably the one published in the World Happiness Report, is measured primarily through surveys and by considering various life factors. Respondents are asked to rate their life on a scale of 0 to 10, with 10 representing the best possible life.

These ratings are then correlated with factors like GDP per capita, social support, life expectancy, freedom, generosity, and perceptions of corruption.

It's bullshit. It's basically all bullshit.

why do people believe surveys or polls i have never taken a survey in my life

your brother is gay, but you're a faggot

Just a bunch of ad hominems. You can go ahead and be an athiest, i actually think its an intellectually tenable position. But if you do, have the balls to say what that entails - it means that there are no such thing as morals. that nihilism is the reality of life. That's fine - perfectly defendable. But if you hold that belief and decide to have kids you are a deeply fucked up person.
as far as the problem of evil - hey, its a good point, i have my own thoughts as to that

it means that there are no such thing as morals

Jewish men who died over 2000 years ago gave you your morals. Are you saying nobody else can devise a system of morality aside from them?

Every single tribe did this independently. The human mind is still wired to believe in this veil and things behind it. It's just such good mind control? It gets flipped on societies as much as it secures their loyalty. Somehow, everyone just fell for it until the age of enlightenment? And people still fall for it today. It's a biological need. What did evolution mean by this?

How do you solve the problem of Evil without an unmovable first mover?

Are you more intelligent than Aristotle? If you are I demand you prove it.

ESL?

your balls were cut off by your wife, mother, gf, pussyboi

there's like one maybe two ad hom in there you brainless idiot. there's your ad hominem faggot

Every single tribe did this independently

Right. And taught thier babies as they grew with their tribal traditions. These babies weren't born with inherent tribal traditions, they're taught it.

It's a biological need. What did evolution mean by this?

Survival. That's why the strongest tribes survived and passed on their traditions

Because you're a fagot, and so is your god.

human beings alone cannot devise a system of morals no. there is no truth or essence of primordial reality to give any weight to these morals. If you just believe what the hive believes you are just a hive member. conversely if ur just a bunch of people, each man to his own morals, u are just a fuckin mess. either way yeah duh, if u make ur own morals up it means fuck all.
i read about an anthropologist who went into the field and lived with a tribe in papa guinea once. they were nice people but if they saw a kid of another tribe theyd kill that kid and eat it. if u asked them that would be perfectly moral. that ok by you? or does it not obviously imply that nihilism is true?

ends up worshiped and memed into godhood

what did evolution mean by this?

seething. why are u so afraid to have fuckin balls and own what being an atheist entails u faggots?

Survival. That's why the strongest tribes survived and passed on their traditions

right because society can't survive without religious beliefs. i wonder why that would be.

human beings alone cannot devise a system of morals no.

This shows how brainwashed you are. The Golden Rule existed LONG before your dumb fish cult. You and the other teenage christian moron filth never learned anything of value in your schooling and it shows. Go read any of the multitude of books on history. READ NIGGER.

I'm sorry anon, but these philosophical concepts as they're posited by christians are very brainlet tier. I don't know why you're invoking Aristotle in a discussion about evil because he didn't view it they way christians do. He simply believed it to be the absence of good. You're also conflating religion with what would be closer to deism. Aristotle didn't claim there was a god who intervened or that morality was divinely inspired. I think you've completely misunderstood these concepts or someone lied to you. How do you solve the problem of evil when your god claims he's the one who created it in the bible?

It meant that it is our destiny to rule all, and these filthy parasitic deities are holding us back.

fuck you puto, I speak eggcerent enrgrish. its alove song fucker

*looks around*
simply a coincidence I assure you

human beings alone cannot devise a system of morals no.

Why do a significant number African christians think it's ok to rape a baby to try to cure their AIDS?

That sounds like Chaos talk anon, you wouldn't be a Heretic now would you?

dont need to be that grim

child, this universe is extremely harsh, dangerous, and non-magical.

grand scheme of things

there isn't any such thing, never was.

points that you are not seeing

don't bother. i only came here to bitch.

They're surrounded by theists.

Just because you're not depressed doesn't mean you're right.

because god bullies them

That's implying negros are human.

In the eyes of jewsus they're you're equal :^)

You have Ork brains.

i believe you're a moron

stay home monkey boy

no it didnt. many people didnt follow it at all. many religions and "moral systems" were based on hierarchy. look at hinduism u fucking idiot and their caste system. look at tribal societies: kill the other tribe was a common "moral".
im not even saying u need to be christian. but god is a must if u want to not be nihilist.
cause theyre stupid niggers? so because some people who believe in god do bad things, that means that atheists dont have to admit that theyre nihilists? huh?

society can't survive without religious beliefs

This is what your church told you your entire life and you just parrot here mindlessly despite being completely wrong. Your cult exists because of stupid people like you who continue to work for them, free, feeding and paying them continuing their existence until a bigger cult shows up.

TREAT PEOPLE HOW YOU WISH TO BE TREATED

No God necessary. Civilization was built around this pretense; DO UNTO OTHERS AS THEY DO UNTO YOU. The basic and most important mutual insurance of safety and civility, across eons and oceans of time.

NO GOD NECESSARY. Christians are just stupid children. Jews really rotted your brain.

Grumbling has consequences. God's just giving them some tough love to set them straight.

unless the physics of this universe were different unlike anything the human mind can imagine good and evil must coexist. everything, everything that was is or will be has an equal opposite. that is the law of this plane of existence. you can think for yourself on why that would be or the infinite variables, truths, and possibilities that exist because of that law. but God is behind every single part and parcel. and not a single mind certainly none on this forum can imagine a universe that does not follow that law.

it's about sticking bananas up your ass. so says the great prophet of atheism.

When has a babby tipped fedora?

This

Hindus are savages, idiot. The highest castes are just less savage but they're all brown mongrels wallowing in their own shit, literally.

They worship cocks. Shiva is literally a demon cock demon. This is your example of "moral systems"? lmao

Orks iz da Greenest and da Best

cause theyre stupid niggers?

Those are your brothers in christ and the fact that you judged them like that has made you a lesser being in the eyes of jewsus :^(

some people who believe in god do bad things

They weren't divinely inspired to be moral? Why not?

right because society can't survive without religious beliefs

Yet those religious beliefs are subjective to one another
Very cool

no one will listen to you, the law of this universe cannot and will not be changed. it is what it is, non-anon.

No God necessary. Civilization was built around this pretense; DO UNTO OTHERS AS THEY DO UNTO YOU

lol civilization as we know it today is extremely christian you fucking idiot. What you think without "god" we would end up with a "golden rule" based civilization? the golden rule is inherently christian as a concept. compare that with judaism that preaches that non jews are cattle, or muslims who preach similar things, or the aztecs atop their blood soaked pyramids.

well thanks

u lack reading comprehension. U said the golden rule is some sort of "natural moral" that resides within humanity collectively. i brought up hinduism to show that its obviously not.

I suspect you're right.
You need to work on your approach. Try tapping your feet at a truck stop.

Christ cucks worship a flying jew, could never be me!

yes they are subjective there will always be different religions there will never be one religion. it's impossible and goes against the law of this universe.

a belief system that benefits us.

The world has changed though and Christianity no longer benefits white people, infect it's causing our destruction

god gave us free will. I have my own beliefs desu. that we are all here doing pennance for something bad we all did in anither realm. this is like jail. an assortment of dreams and senses have brought me to this conclusion.

You see, you speak as if you KNOW truth

Yes. I know the truth. Jesus Christ is the truth. I remember when I was blind. I couldn't see the truth but now I see this clearly.

You claim to seek truth, but also claim that the truth should bestow happiness

Yes, the truth is like a bitter medicine.

Why are you seeking what you already claim to know?

We are happier when we share the truth and love and sadder when we act cowardly or when we see a brother not seeing the truth.

Faith?

Yes, faith is what sustains me.

i'm actually pointing out that significance, as a concept, is just imagination.

The significance is just the way. Once you follow the right way your life get significance but if you running on empty your life loses sense. It's like a compass.

Me saying this obviously bothers you, because i'm taking away your security by exposing the logic by which you came to your conclusion on faith. You want to be comfortable, and so you're threatened by what i'm saying.

Sorry, you are just assuming things. I feel secured because I know that Christ love me, love you and love us all. It makes me more secure. I also feel more secure because I know that dead is not the end but there are a good afterlife after here.

Become comfortable with insecurity, and you'll be more in touch with objective reality and have a more open mind.

I'm confortable with insecurity because when I fall I know I can get up, but that is difficult for a person who has not yet known the real Truth.

everything that exists has an equal opposite, and yet people still decide to be atheist. they cannot imagine God's designs. hopefully, they see it one day.

Its not accurate to think that atheism is the sole contributor to depression, obviously the state of this society and culture were in would also be a big cause to that. I was the same level of depressed when I was a christian as I am now as an atheist. If anything i would be slightly happier but i also have more medical problems now so I guess it balances out

The fitness score of a religious population vs one without religion is a different discussion entirely. Arguing the consequences of x belief is not the same as interrogating the belief itself. Does not necessarily mean it’s true.

Imagine the year is 3000 and Islam takes over the world. You wouldn’t not conclude that allah is the one true god or whatever. You would conclude they had a greater fitness score than any other belief system in that it produced the type of behavior the game theory engine rewards. Namely being extraordinarily violent, intolerant, and flooding into host nations and spitting out kids nonstop, and outsourcing your subsistence to someone else.

god gave us free will

Sounds like an immoral thing for him to do considering it means babies get raped by men who acquired AIDS from gay sex. Sounds like the problem of evil comes from god in more ways than one.

flying jew

I know this story. Something about Yeshua, "may his name be forever cursed" stealing God's cheat code from the holy of holies.
Kikes are hilarious.

M8
We all return to energy when we die. Ho'evere we an get sucked up into The Eye of Saturn (((hell))) and as an Ethnic Jew I simply want to warn you to GTFO when it is your time and *death awaits*

yes they are subjective there will always be different religions there will never be one religion

And we go right back to what I originally said.

And depending on where you're born, will determine what religion you become.

god gave us free will.

Not really. Free will is an illusion. Specially for the theist who believes in an omnipotent God who's will always supercedes their own

ya u can go on and on about the problem of evil. Why are u so scared to admit that ur a nihilist? How can you believe in inherent meaning if there is no underpinning of morals or belief in a higher power to orient urself? its literally impossible.

there will never be one religion it's impossible and goes against the law of this universe. think on it and maybe you can add more to your line of thinking and viewpoint.

Oh so ur a determinist and an atheist. Sounds like a great life.i dont believe those things. to hold a belief that we are all incapable of choice is so extremely counterproductive that i think you are useless.

i kind of have an issue with you saying "babies are born atheist" as babies don't have a concept for God so how could they be....anything?

The Brazil fag convert is always particularly fervent in his worship, they usually convert after fucking and murdering a tranny hooker.

the steak tastes real to me

Nothing. There is nothing there. It's a trap. An illusion. There is only you. You, and your sins, and your past, and your decisions, and your pain, and your hearts. It's only you. That's what the void is. It's you.

free will is not an illusion it is the response to or effect of being a conscious being on this planet. everything you do is free will.

Oh so ur a determinist and an atheist

I believe our will is bound by cause and effect

to hold a belief that we are all incapable of choice

Free will isn't about the ability to make a choice. Computer programs make choices all day. It's about why you made it and the consequences that bind it

as babies don't have a concept for God

Right. They lack belief in God or gods which is the definition of atheism

Why do you so desperately need people to say they're nihilists?

no underpinning of morals

Your morals come from long dead jewish men.

or belief in a higher power to orient urself

This doesn't even make sense.

everything you do is free will.

Everything you do is based in cause and effect.

fails the breakfast question

But yes there totally could be. No physical or natural law is violated, fitness scores are not equal, and rates of propagation are not equal. Give it enough time with an integrated world (planes, ships, etc shrinking the planet) and it’s likely one will emerge with a near monopoly on religious belief.

right. They lack belief in God or gods which is the definition of atheism

that is a ridiculous statement. a lack of belief does not mean the same thing as having no knowledge, awareness, or concept of belief.

cause i like honesty and i dislike pussies. Atheists are nihilists unless they cope. simple as. "MAKE UR OWN MEANING!" ok! my meaning is to rape you!!!! i made my own meaning! how liberating!!!

the law of this universe is that everything that exists has an equal opposite. and so there could never be one religion there will always be multiple religions especially through cause and effect of oppression, lack of control, etc.

>right. They lack belief in God or gods which is the definition of atheism

that is a ridiculous statement

It's the truth

right and there are multiple actions and multiple thought processes and almost infinite possibilities and there will be a choice on one.

What is the opposite of a tree?

Free will is an illusion

Is a theme in hello Charlotte. People die for their beliefs, y'know.

Natural selection is removing atheism from the gene pool as we speak.

are you capping google? should i cap where i asked "is lack of knowledge or concept of God the same thing as atheism?" and it said "no?" i thought it was unimportant but if you accept that as a source maybe not.

i dislike pussies

Sorry to hear about your self loathing.

my meaning is to rape you!!!!

All these discussions ever reveal are that the religious are subhumans who don't belong in White society. Without a magic jewish zombie in your life you'd just be a nigger. So since you like honesty, let's do a thought experiment. If you were to see objective and irrefutable evidence proving that god doesn't exist would you rape children? If not, why?

Sar Saar their is no god I Rape You OK!

what a compelling argument for god

The only reason why you're replying to me is because I'm replying to you.

You either will or won't reply to me..
Let's see how free your will is from that

i get what you're saying but it doesn't prove your statement so are you conceding? i also appreciate that you chose to finish the thread.

People die for their beliefs, y'know.

Yeah no doubt. There's a cause and effect associated with those

are you capping google?

It's the definition my man.

"is lack of knowledge or concept of God the same thing as atheism?"

Its clearly answered right there my guy and that answer is yes

maybe grass?

You didn't answer me last post Determinisim is The Kingdom. WE all become energy when we die.

I hate when people attribute random shit like lgbt to atheism, atheism is its own fucking thing, theres no fucking atheist handbook that says we all must be lgbt or anti natalist, these are separate things even if there is a statistical overlap or correlation. Me and my white gf are going to aim for having 10 babies!

holy projection batman

i get what you're saying

You really don't

so are you conceding?

To what?

I just realized you're an atheist but you namefag as a ghost. A ghost is a supernatural entity. It implies the existence of a soul. You want to have a soul, don't you?

ok but....

A ghost is a supernatural entity. It implies the existence of a soul

None of these things require a belief in God or gods.

The term “philia” (from Ancient Greek: φιλία) means deep friendship or affectionate love. It's one of the classical Greek words for love, alongside:

Eros – romantic or passionate love

Agape – unconditional, spiritual love

Storge – familial or instinctive love

Philia – brotherly love, friendship, loyalty

If you were to see objective and irrefutable evidence proving that god doesn't exist would you rape children? If not, why?

i dont even believe that such a thing would be possible to see as i believe that there is a limit to our ability to comprehend things. but no, since i dont have that desire.

Without a magic jewish zombie in your life you'd just be a nigger

and so would you if thats what your particular society dictated. U think the ancient germanics were some noble kind people? Why are you so afraid of admitting the logical endpoint of ur belief?
i am not making an argument for god. I am arguing that atheist faggots need to own all of the logical conclusions of their belief, but for some reason ur too scared to. why?

No new government will ever be founded on religion, ill bet ten bucks

Grass is just another type of plant. Why would grass be the opposite of a tree?

you are trying to use the conversation as an example that free will doesn't exist. well you said good bye earlier itt but chose to stay so...

Atheism is the belief there are no gods

That's still a lack of belief. Now we are entering gnostic and agnostic. Which is a branch in both atheism and theism

Christianity is literally trans because you have to believe in imaginary fairy tales. That's what trans people do when they believe they are a woman.

you are trying to use the conversation as an example that free will doesn't exist

I'm demonstrating that your choice to reply is dependent on me. That's not free.

I'm not even an atheist, but that's one weak fucking argument.
The pursue of transient happiness regardless of everything else is the reason society is in its current sorry state.

Well, you're halfway there.

but the question i asked was "is lack of knowledge or concept of God the same thing as atheism?" specifically regarding babies and the answer was "No, a lack of knowledge or concept of God is not the same as atheism"
so you are wrong. it says it right there.

A rock underground.

but no, since i dont have that desire.

So you admit you can be moral without god. Thanks for playing.

U think the ancient germanics were some noble kind people?

According to Tacitus they were and he favored them to Roman urbanites.

Why are you so afraid of admitting the logical endpoint of ur belief?

Because what you're saying isn't logical and I don't think someone who would be a rapist without ancient texts "guiding" them is at liberty to discuss logic.

What's your fuckin' problem GAhost? Do youeven knowwhat a fuucking mesa is cocksucker? I see you and I realize 1to1 I beat you

Christians believe Jesus flew around like superman, they believe this shit.

What does that mean exactly?

"is lack of knowledge or concept of God the same thing as atheism?"

And I said yes. My answer isn't going to change. Did you bother to look where the AI pulled its answer from? No, of course not

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pay attention to me!!

you said good bye but chose not to end the conversation that's free will.

If being psychotic is the logical conclusion of atheism why don't you see many news stories of atheists murdering and raping?

no. my desire not to rape kids is not based on morals, but my non desire to rape kids. buddy. u have no fucking clue how influenced by christianity u urself are just by virtue of being a member of society. ur whole spiel a few posts ago about im a nigger cause i need god to not do bad things just shows it - u are such a hardcore christian without knowing it that the very idea of doing something society deems "immoral" to you is disgusting. do u understansd that comes from christianity? have a generations of athiests popping out do u think ppl would still hold true to those sorts of beliefs? ur a fucking moron dude.

chose not to end the conversation

Because you gave me the choice to respond. Which has consequences. A transaction is happening here and there nothing free about it

It's funny that the prison population is more religious than the general population.

One hundred percent eros, I'm going to backdoor this tranny hard.
I'm kidding. I don't like ever posting that it's satirical but this is sewwious.

did i say psychotic? i said nihilist. and widespread nihilism would lead to disastrous consequences for the human race yes. currently even the atheists are extremely christian in their morals without even knowing it.

well you could have chosen to end the conversation but you chose not to instead. free will.
there are multiple sources from the google ai.

oh shit this guy is a wimp 2d4sure sorry holmes. hhheheheheeh dummy

hmm i don't know that was my first guess. maybe a mushroom? or moss?

my desire not to rape kids is not based on morals, but my non desire to rape kids

Look at this dumbfuck with his tautological fallacy kek.

u are such a hardcore christian without knowing it

So now his cope is that the logical endpoint of atheism is people acting more christlike than the believers kek.

have a generations of athiests popping out do u think ppl would still hold true to those sorts of beliefs?

Hahahaha he doesn't know. That was already addressed here

Being psychotic is the proper way you should be. Being a good boy bot that has kids and is loyal to his wife is unnatural, soulless and inauthentic.

no. my desire not to rape kids is not based on morals, but my non desire to rape kids.

This is circular logic.

What does that mean exactly?

I don't want to get all mystic on you but the best answer is you'll figure it out. Why do you hate the Christian God?

I believe in God with all my heart but worshipping Jesus like how Christians do seems very wrong. It’s very idolatrous imo. If they didn’t push it so hard I would give it a chance, but I just get repulsed

Or maybe atheists have basic morals that are necessary for civilization to function properly.

well you could have chosen to end the conversation but you chose not to instead

Choices I wouldn't have had if you didn't reply

there are multiple sources from the google ai.

None of which you looked at

not a cope ur very bad at comprehension holy shit. CURRENTLY atheists are still extremely culturally christian (belief in golden rule etc). If belief in god would be totally abandoned this "christian cultural conditioning" would erode in favor of "make ur own meaning" and u would have more and more people abandoning "the golden rule" etc. "Atheists" make me fuckin laugh so hard. If u have no basis for morals, where do ur morals come from? u make them up? out of thin fuckin air? cause it "feels right".

95% of Christians have never read the Bible. You honor Jesus by praising his Father. Jesus is the way to God. Jesus is our savior.

You make very little sense, half of my morality probably is Christian. I'm still an atheist.

I don't want to get all mystic on you but the best answer is you'll figure it out

Ah so you don't know either

Why do you hate the Christian God?

Can't hate something that doesn't exist.

i am not sexually attracted to them. lets put it this way. u might have a pedophile who believes in god and decides that because of this beleif he doesnt want to rape children. but take that same belief away from the pedo - there is 0 stoipping him. learn the definition of circular argument dumbfuck

CURRENTLY atheists are still extremely culturally christian

No they're not, they're culturally European because Europeans were still generally moral and upstanding before your jewish zombie got treated like a kapparot chicken.

where do ur morals come from

Men, just like yours. You just happened to pick jewish men who died over 2000 years ago. Pretty cringe, christsissy.

basic morals

what are these and where did they come from. Why do you term these things "basic morals". Aztecs would think that chopping people up and throwing their body parts down stairs are "basic morals". tribesmen in the jungle think that slow roasting children is "basic morals". where do these things come from, these "basic morals".

It's really frightening how stupid you are.

Aztecs would think that chopping people up and throwing their body parts down stairs are "basic morals".

Sounds just like modern beaner catholics. Whoops, your gay jewgod didn't inspire them to be moral, once again!

You don't need morality. It's the chains you put on yourself.

but muh kids

here are 1000 pictures of kids crying that will make you say fuck having a soul and freedom

Don't care.

which men? Do you even know?

choosing to end the conversation

free will

choosing to not end the conversation

also free will. there is nothing that eliminates the choice. alone in a room you can talk to yourself or not talk to yourself. you can choose what you want to think about or go on autopilot and let your thoughts do whatever. i have heard of people choosing not to think any thoughts through meditation or something but i don't know much about that.
and i went to the three websites listed as sources.

I only praise God. Nothing more nothing less.

oh here it is. the final cope: "europeans are generally moral and upstanding". ok bro kek. ya the viking raids on defenceless monasteries were moral and upstanding as were the roman colloseum games as were the massive numbers of genocides etc etc.

Men, just like yours.

but i dont believe that. i believe in god. you believe in....."men"? that sounds fuckin gay not to mention retarded. so was the viking warrior who slaughtered 12 year old monks begging for their lives "moral" according to you?

Weren't you posting iron chariots, though? He exists in your mind at least. There is a massive accounting for his existence that you reject. So, maybe hate is the wrong word. Perhaps it's a stupid question you probably reject him because

lack of evidence

never witnessing a damned thing he's ever done

imperfect, is a complete understatement for the world he has created.

>choosing to end the conversation

free will

I've already why free will isn't about making a choice. Please keep up

Then you praise Jesus. God made flesh to rescue us from our sins. Keep reading. You are on a good road.

free will is making a choice you choose any option you can think of.

Weren't you posting iron chariots, though?

Probably. It's a funny verse lol

He exists in your mind at least.

As much as the tooth fairy does.

There is a massive accounting for his existence that you reject

I just reject the subjective interpretation of what you think God is.

i am not sexually attracted to them

Why?

free will is making a choice

I've already bene through this. Each choice you make had a cause. You didn't free just do it. Something caused it. And once you make the choice there are consequences that follow.

It's a transaction and transactions aren't free.

I'm sorry you can't grasp this

the viking raids on defenceless monasteries

Self defense against kike subversion. They should've killed more of them.

the roman colloseum games as were the massive numbers of genocides

How many Europeans did christians kill in the northern crusades and interreligious conflicts like the 30 years war? You're just fucking dumb dude. You can't actually name anything that non-christian Whites and Europeans were doing that is worse than what christians are doing which blows your whole jewgod morality argument out of the water.

i believe in god

And trannies believe they're real women. Doesn't make it true.

As the other anon has pointed out Christian nations full of low IQ people still practice barbarism like this. No one provided a real defense for why Christian Africans rape children because they think it cures AIDS.

You can call yourself Christian, but it does not make you a Christian. If you don't follow God's and Jesus' commands, you simply are not a Christian. Rape is against God's law.

you are choosing not to go to your local gay pride parade with anyone else in your life that is atheists and also happens to be lgbt so that is certainly free choice. you could choose to go. or choose to protest it. or choose to make a float to enter the parade. there are a bunch of choices that fully support and act out your own personal free will.

Dispute Aristotle

my wires arent crossed that way. If i believed in 0 morals (the obvious logical endpoint of atheism) i would act in a way that would satisfy my innate desires ofc since i am culturally conditioned by christianity i would have an internal stopper to prevent me from stealing etc. but after a couple generations of mass atheism? that cultural christian conditioning would dissapear.

Hitler (oppressing jews)
Stalin (oppressing christians)
Saddam Hussein (killing Kurds)
Gaddafi (resisting jewish bankers)
Kim Jong Un (resisting Americanism)
Just to name a few.
You lost lil bro, you can get off my dick.

you are choosing not to go to your local gay pride parade

Because I don't want to deal with the consequences I'll have to pay for it.

I'd rather pay for different consequences by not going

my wires arent crossed that way.

Why? Who wired you like that?

No true Scotsman fallacy. They believe they are Christian just as much as you do.

imagine having such a negative iq you dispute Aristotle

right you are making the choice. prime example of free will.

If you let another man tell you what to do you're not a real man. You're a cuck.

This robotic type of response is what makes me fear becoming Christian. It’s like a mind virus. That’s why I only worship God and life is pretty good. I’m not perfect. I still have my struggles like any human, but I’m making strives to improving. One thing I’ve abandoned is alcoholism and I’m making strides towards stopping weed and tobacco.

There is no Free Will; Only Determinism.
You my loser are a big fat pussy and you fucking lie cocksucker. I'll be sure to break your fuckin' jaw when I see ya.

No true Scotsman fallacy

Wrong. There is a nice, neat list of commands Christians must follow.

Self defense against kike subversion. They should've killed more of them.

youre fucked in the head.

You can't actually name anything that non-christian Whites and Europeans were doing that is worse than what christians are doing which blows your whole jewgod morality argument out of the water.

lmao. so ur argument is that pre christian europeans were moral and good? hHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH holy fuck. they massacred eachother like no ones business. they just couldnt fucking write or read. there is a lot of evidence for genocide and mass graves that pre date christianity you stupud faggot.
Go ahead and continue to intellectually worship this "based nord moral system" that supposedly exists "in the essence of white people" hahahhaahaha fuck.

your morals come from killers? and you want to claim victory?

The Nihilist in all its splendor.

What do I care for your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output.

Aristotle said the prime mover didn't create the universe and doesn't intervene in human affairs, so you must be around 40 IQ to believe in the christian god.

I've already been through this

Watch me control your will.

You will or will not reply in this thread again

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i'm not talking to you you're degenerate

nature. whats ur fuckin point. get to it. that "nature" has within it the morals we need to live by?

Ok I'll just repeat myself since you're clearly a nigger.
How many Europeans did christians kill in the northern crusades and interreligious conflicts like the 30 years war? You're just fucking dumb dude. You can't actually name anything that non-christian Whites and Europeans were doing that is worse than what christians are doing which blows your whole jewgod morality argument out of the water.

your morals come from killers?

How many people did god kill in the bible, lil bro?

it's not "controlling" a persons will to say they will or will not do something. the person still has free will to make their choice.

Less degenerate than you by every objective metric, eunuch :^)
I bet you consume c*ffeine lmao

nature

Who is this nature? Where can I met him? Maybe it was God who wired you like that? Gave you your morals?

What is robotic about it?

Thanks for proving my point.

the person still has free will to make their choice.

You wouldn't have the will to do it if I didn't give it to you.

ur very very stupid. so because men in christs name killed pagans in some war...that means...that....christianity is bad, and paganism is good? is that your point? and cause of that therefore....atheism doesnt lead to nihilism?

God kills everyone in the end, lil bro.

youtube.com/watch?v=DQTCS6aWRSc

They need a fren...

so, happy? like followers of christianity?

a person's will is not finite and it exists with or without you

it's ok when christkikes do the same violent shit because it was "god's will"

Christian "morality" everyone.
You morals come from the killer of everyone?

gets le spoopy satan digits

Oof

and it exists

Based on the will of others.

Ironically thou shalt not rape isn't a commandment. The Torah says if you rape a virgin she has to become your wife.

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

yeah that worked out really well for the Philippines didn't it?

bretty cool ehh

my stick is bigger than yours

ur very very stupid

nobody else sees it that way, reading your posts is like watching a black preacher from the ghetto only dumber

It’s just the same thing over and over again. “REPENT, ACCEPT JESUS AS LORD AND SAVIOR OR SUFFER ETERNAL DAMNATION!” the constant fear mongering. I don’t think God would destroy himself/itself like that.

will exists because the person exists. the will is dependent on consciousness .

never said it was ok. its wrong. im done with u. ur too stupid and its getting boring.

will exists because the person exists

Ah so it's bound by and dependent on the person. That doesn't sound free

wrong. people in this thread have been dunking on this idiot as well. i got that retard to admit that he got his morals from stalin and hitler kek. u should kill urself too since life has no meaning.

its wrong

Hahahahaha what a fucking retard. All this bullshit about christian morality only to continually admit that christians are always using their free will to be as immoral as everyone else. What a fucking clown show.

Ironically thou shalt not rape isn't a commandment.

It is a rule. Gave to Noah. It is also fornication, if you want to get technical.

It’s just the same thing over and over again

Shall we change reality for you so it does not feel repetitive?

the will is dependent on consciousness .

dependent

So not free then

right a person's will wouldn't exist without the person existing.

ue8 ass fagoot?

a person's free will would not exist without a person existing

you mean humans are not perfect?

i got that retard to admit that he got his morals from stalin and hitler

So you were samefagging and this is your other ID Hahahahahahaha you dumbass

So not free then

I'm glad we agree

so because human beings arent perfect, it means christianity is inherently bad. u benefit from living in a christian society. u benefit from the advances in technology that christianity brought, reading, writing, human rights etc. and ur just here spitting in the eye of the thing that implanted all of ur morals within u that u now larp as getting them from "stalin and hitler" and "based ancient nords". lmao

If atheism is good

who said that. no one with authority ever said that. your entire question makes no sense.

it's free will because the person exists and a person's free will would not exist without a person existing

Christniggers are worse than actual niggers lol

if god no real how life have meaning

This shit makes you freaks look worse than niggers do with the breakfast question.

that guy came in and another guy too dunked on u for being a nihilist which u of course are.

It is a rule. Gave to Noah

Then why does it say in Deuteronomy it's ok to rape a virgin as long as you give her father some shekels?

What’s reality to you? Reality to me is what we make of it in our heads. That’s why constant prayer is necessary to create a better reality for ourselves. What’s in the mind reflects on the outside. As the man thinketh they say

Christianity didn't bring any of that shit, otherwise Ethiopia would've been the epicenter of technological and cultural advancement since it was the first christian country you dumb shitskin.

You got caught samefag hahahahahaha

I am nigger

it's free

Not if its dependent on something else. That's not really free. I

Reality to me is what we make of it in our heads.

That is literally the oppositive of reality. Reality is independent of you. A rock will be a rock even if you call it a cat.

Marriage is rape now?

that's not really

but it is

will would not exist without a person existing

Yup. It's bound to each other. Not truly free

Nope

You keep demonstrating its not

truly

it really, truly is, though

Marriage is rape now?

Deuteronomy 22:28-29

If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

The passage was talking about raping an unmarried virgin.

Asian countries aren’t Christian and they’re beating the west in a lot of things. Yeah they have problems but things are improving them rapidly

ethiopia would be worse without christianity. its ok bro keep belieivng in the "men" who give u morals. hahahahahha

Nope

Tell me more how much will is dependent on other things lol

u benefit from living in a christian society

yeah they cut the tip of my fucking dick off

u benefit from the advances in technology that christianity brought

and i could possibly grow it back but you fucks banned stem cell research

christianity brought, reading, writing, human rights etc

please, please fact check any of those before posting them, next time. just a few seconds each.

have you read the thing? genesis 19:35. when god had Lots two daughters get him wasted, have incestual sex with him, to distract him so the angry mob outside could murder him. whatcha make of all that. just curious.

He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Hey, I found another traduction!
“If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found,

Sounds consensual to me.

It's better that God is worshipped in our traditional ways. That our knowledge of him is passed down through the generations. Otherwise, conceptions of him get distorted. People aren't sure what to believe in. There is nobody inspiring hope after the materialistists take all your money promising God will reward ten-fold. There is something to discovering the truth on your own, but there's also a much better thing in standing on the shoulders of others that have established the truth through generations. Judeo-Christianity will die. Because, it is a house of cards. Just one word will knock it down.

your use adverbs to constrict the absolute definition of free is not going to change the parameters for how it presents in this reality.

ethiopia would be worse without christianity

Sure it would. Russia went from an agrarian disjointed shithole that lost a war to Japan to the world's second most powerful empire and best Olympic country after ditching christianity.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree

seizes her

That's called rape.

You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions

Marriage is rape now?

no no no no, you misread it. the rapist has to marry the women he raped. if he gets caught, that is. if no one sees him, its fine.

this might sound a little absurd, but...god, lol. works in mysterious ways. like. its not rape if no one sees you. lol.

OT is cancelled by NT. went to catholic school. no 1 cares about OT. its called CHRISTianity. sorry that ur parents are retarded and chopped ur dick. if i had stupid braindead people for parents id prolly be athiest too.

Are you sure? That's very convinient to you.

if no one sees him, its fine.

Where does it says it's fine?

OT is cancelled by NT.

No it's not, christkikes are all just illiterate fucking retards that can't read their own book kek. Jewsus explicitly states that mosaic law is to be observed until heaven and earth pass.

Niggers

what a fucking dementedly insane way to stretch a fasct to shoehorn it into ur argument.

what is the red terror

mass murder of kulaks

mass industrialization

but ya its cause they "ditched christianity".meanwhile they still retained an extremely christian ethos while saying tehy were atheist. only god was replaced by the state and the christian "golden rule" was literally the entire point of the country.

How do you consensually violate somebody and why would you be punished for consensual sex?

It’s not that literal. It’s not like the type of powers Jesus had where he could turn wine into water, walk on water and command storms to stop. It’s kinda like that power but within your mind. Maybe the storm Jesus commanded to stop and the the fear of the apostles expressed represent your thoughts. The negativity within it. Always scared, always waiting for the end is not what God wants for us

misread of it.im a gnostic anyway i dont believe in traditional xianity.

they still retained an extremely christian ethos

Hahahahaha holy shit

Stalin is the real christian!

These fucking copes are so brown the thread is starting to stink.

The Catholic Church teaches that Jesus fulfills the Old Law, rather than continuing it in full:

Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) §1967:

"The Law of the Gospel ‘fulfills,’ refines, surpasses, and leads the Old Law to its perfection."

CCC §1968:

"The Law of the Gospel fulfills the commandments of the Law. The Sermon on the Mount... draws out the implications of the commandment: ‘You shall not kill, you shall not commit adultery,’ etc."

easily disputed.

All glory to the jew led USSR, right comrade? Surely, the litany of horrible stories about the soviets and bolsheviks are western lies. They totally didn't persecute every religion aside from Judaism while claiming their ideology is abolishment if religion.

How do you consensually violate somebody

By asking them to have sex. Violation in this context means sex outside marriage.

why would you be punished for consensual sex?

Because it's outside marriage.

Jesus fulfills

Yeah that means he never disobeyed the law because he was the only man without sin. He said he came to do that, not to abolish the law. For some reason you guys see jewsus saying he came to fulfill it and not abolish it and think that means the law is... abolished? Where's your tefillin?

you really are just dumb huh.

Jews got purged hard and fled to the US, retard. Go be a newfag somewhere else.

What are you talking about?

OT is cancelled by NT

yeah, sure. it was completely okay for a while, then it wasnt. all that RAPE that happened before god changed his mind, totally okay.

does this mean that if there were people, who RAPED, got away, and thus, hadnt committed a sin....who then eventually died, and went to heaven. are we gonna meet those people, in heaven?

ah, hey, its your great great great great great grandfather. hah, yeah, i FUCKED the SHIT outta your mom, she was crying, screaming, hysterical, fuckin lmao. but, i donkey punched her and she was knocked out, so when i snuck out of the camp, no one saw me. damn, i was slick. anyways, god said, if no one saw me, it wasnt a sin, so, here i am!

your mom: yeah...i remember that....

but hey man. its okay. he was one of the good rapists.

there are many papers on the fact that communism is actually christianity on steroids.

You have no arguments and don't understand your gay jewish religion written by 80 IQ sandniggers because you're more retarded than they are.

more jews alive today than ever in history, they even have their own ethnostate funded by you the taxpaying American.

you have no arguments at all.

you remind me of me when I was more retarded than I am now.