LAND OF THE FREE: MY ASS

Electric company came to my house to install a smart meter

I told them I want to opt out

they said okay and walked away

got informed via voicemail it would be $15 extra per month on the bill

price I’m willing to pay

wife exclaims HOLY FUCK WHAT HAVE WE BEEN USING THE BILL IS DOUBLE!!!

go outside

look at the meter

THEY INSTALLED A SMART METER WHEN I WASNT HOME!!!

ITS LUIGI TIME!!!!!!! How does a company have the right to put a smart device on my home that monitors every fuckin thing and potentially cut me off for wrongthink??? If I smash it with a rock will I still get power? Can I build a faraday cage?

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How does a company have the right to put a smart device on my home that monitors every fuckin thing and potentially cut me off for wrongthink?

Because you signed a contract with them explicitly saying they could do that? If you don't want to deal with a power company, don't purchase their services.

One word : magnet
Simple as

Just cut the power and buy an expensive generator?

THEY INSTALLED A SMART METER WHEN I WASNT HOME

that sounds like a (you) problem

That's illegal in most places

Just remove it. They installed it without your approval. You can remove it without theirs.

WTF WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR THINGS?

Are you disputing your usage?

funny thing about that

The service drop is the utility companies property in the US

I signed a contract like 10 years ago and there were no smart meters around, I never signed up for a smart meter. I explicitly told them I didn’t want one, they had an opt out policy, I took the policy, and they provided receipt of my opting out via voicemail.

Now I have to invest thousands because “no gobacksies” on a fucking 6”x6” meter they installed against my will

buy a turbine and some solar panels

this

You can do that if you own the land and house.
Call an electrician ask them remove it and install old one if you live in places like Florida you can shoot them for trespass

No. It's not.

it's not your property. they can do whatever they want to their meter. it's their meter. not your meter. your property starts at the cables past the meter. they're more than capable of putting the meter at the pole or transformer it comes from and telling you to figure out how to get power past that point.

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I’m disputing the placement of a smart meter on my house that I explicitly told them I didn’t want and they came back when I wasn’t home a couple of months ago and installed it behind my back. With a smart meter they can use floating rates to charge you more during peak hours, with the old meter it doesn’t know when peak hours are it’s just purely how many Watt Hours you used

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How does a company have the right to put a smart device on my home that monitors

the meter is the property of the power company and your service agreement gives them the right to enter your property to inspect it. Same with a gas meter.

/thread

Yes it is

No. It's not.

They replaced the old analogue meter with a smart meter when I told them I’m happy with the old one. They didn’t like that so now I have a radio emitting cancerous big brother monitoring station instead of a fucking analogue meter that works just fine and I know still exist because they TOOK ONE OFF MY HOUSE 2 MONTHS AGO

that's a you problem.

Please continue

Op you need a better fence..

kek

It's not your equipment, it's their equipment, which, hilariously, doesn't work for shit. They fuck my bill up every month, since the meter was replaced.

I guarantee you whatever I signed for service had no mention of radio emitting “smart” monitoring meter. But based on how Jewish this country is, no doubt there is some fine print about future technology or some bullshit. I’m just pissed that they allowed me to opt out and then installed it anyway. That’s fucked.

Too bad mutt, You voted for this.

It is.
The State municipality can condemn your home if it has no running water or no electricity.

And the home of the brave!

You have no idea what you're gibber jabbing about, Ransheet.

The electric company hates this one simple trick.

You should check that your wife didn't okay it one day

this. the entire system is judaism. that's what is really meant by "white" supremacy.

Are you a retard?
You must be a nigger.

No the other anon is right. It is illegal in some places to completely disconnect from the grid. Even if you decide you want to run on a generator (which is legal everywhere) some jurisdictions still require you to be connected to the grid.

Another example of making the electric company seethe.

fucking kikes man

I don't argue with middle schoolers

Kek, how Ukrainian of you.

sue them, u have strong case here, meanwhile here, im too tired to even tell how bad it's

i would say u still somewhat land of the free

How does a company have the right to put a smart device on my home that monitors every fuckin thing and potentially cut me off for wrongthink???

They pump your electricity into your house. You know, the service you use? This is how they're willing to do it.

Those things absolutely blast out RF, and EMF. Not short chirps like a phone, it's a non ending stream.
I measured mine that's how I know. Also their magnetic field is extremely powerful. Hold a compass near one and see what it does.

sorry champ, you don't actually own you're property. goverment just lets you lease it till you stop paying the vax tax. should of read the fine print XD

it doesn't need to specifically mention anything. they have every right to maintain and upgrade their property. you don't get to consent to what they do with their property. the agreement was to provide power, not an agreement on what they can do with their property. maybe the extra 30 bucks would mean less to you if you were at work instead of on Anon Babble bitching about it at noon on a weekday. I can't fathom how someone's biggest bill is their power bill. and I also can't fathom how this is your biggest problem in life

oh no things happen in the world around me without my permission!!!!

Serious question. What if you build a easily removable farady cage and keep it on "most" of the time? Works for cellphones.

good luck with that, the power companies in the USA have smart meters on the block or neighborhood and can see the differences in power usage per house and at the transformer

Nope. I live in a rural Whiteopia in the woods atop a mountain. I haven't seen a nigger in years.

they also fucked your wife while you weren't home

He's probably 14

Then you still have a low IQ and are as dumb as a nigger.

I can’t be the only one getting smart meters installed against their will. There should be policy about this. I’m going to write a letter to RFK I swear to Christ. It’s not a me problem they are converting everyone to smart meters and if you keep posting on Anon Babble like me one day you’re going to find yourself wishing you never had a smart meter on your house too

What in the fuck is happening there? Isn't the direct MPOE like 750vlts?

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Yes. In a few urban shitholes this would be a code violation of some sort. But it is not illegal.

Fuck you no I didn’t
I didn’t even vote in the last election and they installed this shit two months ago.

Absolute retard here, QRD???

A warning at best having your service disconnected and legal trouble at worst

What's he doing, stealing the power from the meter?

So called property tax is the first plank to the communist manifesto.

Yup.

document everything and get a lawyer

you can sue them or team up with your neighbors to phsycially remove them and install a free electricity bypass and then stand guard over your work as a community but you wont beause our society is kiked and diversified so theres no trust anymore between neighbors

Op, them come back out and replace it
Also refuse to $15 fee
Do a charge back because they switched it anyway

Also just get solar or something, fuck the electric companies

Call the police file report

LOL

That's why 'commie' countries limit the power of monopolist companies that provide essential services.
Good luck saying 'no' to electricity and water.

You think a retard that believes in 5g brain cancer shit is going to entertain solar panels?

you have to shield it so you dont get radiated in your house, it constantly sends signals. when you have wifi on youre cooked aswell.
minimize radiation it makes you sick.

Yes. Obviously. I will just sit atop my 80 acre mountain in my rural Whiteopia and watch you retards destroy the world. Cheers!

Be a petty bitch and get a Tesla roof installed with a shit ton of the backup generators, it’ll cost you $50-70k but at least you’ll be off the grid

They do it everywhere, in Germany, in Portugal and why not in Idaho?

He's "robin hooding" power

should have waited behind a bush and ambushed these motherfuckers immedeitly with the ar-15 and ventilated them all these motherfuckers!

He appears to be bypassing the meter with jumper cables.

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You know the sun accounts for 99.99+% of the radio waves you're exposed to, right? But also the opt out was just opting out that day, not overall. As others have said, you do not own the meter, the power company does. You cannot tell them what to do with their property.

kys schizo. So you want them to pay $50,000/year for some human being to come around and look at your meter every so often, just so that when your meds wear off your paranoid, delusional ass can blast a hole in their skull?

Don't like it, make your own electricity

They're bypassing the meter. The electric goes from Live pre-meter (on the left) to live post-meter (on the right) through the spoon. Do not try this if you don't know what you're doing as you will kill yourself.

the smart meter has a hardwire dataline so its not like that stops them from trasnmitting. unless theres new models that only work on wireless that i dont know about

My electric bill also shot through the roof after one of these was installed.

You can do that if you own the land and house.

Nope.

You just do it during a blackout.

Some electrician playing a joke, pretending like he's able to jump the power supply without going through the meter, basically free power. The joke is that anyone with an inkling of knowledge understands that spoon and the wires holding it on will melt in an instant if residential power was run through it.

I have one on my smart meter. The EMF reading is significantly lower but the signal can still be read by the power company even with it left on. Everything is gay.

Removing an electric meter without approval is illegal and dangerous. Utility companies own the meters, and tampering with them can result in fines, legal consequences, and even power disconnection. Additionally, it poses serious electrical hazards, including the risk of electrocution or fire.

If you need to make changes to your electrical system, it's best to contact your utility provider or a licensed electrician to ensure everything is done safely and legally. Let me know if you need guidance on the proper steps!

Also their magnetic field is extremely powerful.

No shit, Sherlock, it's an electrical wire.

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dont like it build your own planet

tough shit, these meters send out radiation i forgot what the meters are called that show you how much it is but its substantial radiation every 1-2 seconds. its SO MAKE YOU FUCKING SICK YOU RETARD'!

These meters were immediately being used by police departments. They get to know when you're asleep, and when you leave the house. They also get a rough idea what kind of stuff you're running during different times of day. They can also very easily and remotely switch your power off. Mine got switched out for half a day due to a clerical error, no human being made the decision, just automatically switched it off and would have switched it back on 12 hours later had I not called. Suspiciously bills shot up for a lot of people, never down, always up.

Stark killing heads of companies and politicians

Better get off the fucking Internet then

sue them, u have strong case here

LOL no he doesn't. He can't do shit.

Don't like it, make your own electricity

Smart. Solar and wind exist nowadays
just gotta be careful with local laws, storage buffer, zoning and climate

(Dials phone)

Hello, electric company. Please disconnect my service. Ok, Thanks. Buh bye.

Simple as.

I’m eating a fuckin sandwich and posting after working all day you hypocrite. They don’t have permission to blast me with EMF or monitor how and when I’m using my electricity. I only signed up for electric service using the meter that was working just fuckin fine. Dickhead.

There is a moral point I’m making you motherfucking boot licking kike Jew. Consequences of all this smart monitoring big brother shit being FORCED on consumers, even if you opted out?! You’re defending that practice? They’re overstepping their entitlements to other people’s property. The money seems small now but just wait.

Bullshit.
If you remove it they will charge you full max 24/7 of all electric appliances working on maximum power based in the average home appliances based on state statistics .
Good luck filing a law suit that will cost you just in legal fees like 100 000 $ minimum.
You are born slave. You own shit. No one respects it your so called property.
You own shit. Only the state owns. You are the state's tenant.
You live to be milked and be human resource for exploitation.

nooo we can’t pay someone 50k

lol

Sex

Big brains right here

My electric company allowed people to opt out with an increased bill, but that increase was set to grow and grow and grow on a timely scheduled basis. It was literally part of the agreement.

you voted for it faggot, eat it

Pay your electric bill you bum. They own the meter and you pay them for a service to have electricity. Or you can go without electricity or make your own... Generators make electricity but you still gotta pay the tax. Good luck!

get smart meter installed against will

it's wired wrong

You'd think it would be easy...

He can remove it but he will be charged big time and probably fined.

refuse to $15 fee

Ok, then they just say you didn't fully pay your bill and eventually cut your power off.

just remove it

sir, did you remove this?

what? I wasn't even aware it was there. I told you not to install one after all, didn't I? if you did it anyway, it must have been stolen

Yeah. Like they have to hire one guy for 50K/annum to come around and check your meter a couple times a year.

off the grid

illegal

and they provided receipt of my opting out via voicemail.

sounds like an easy case then.

Still blocks the radiation though alot yeah? Ive heard of people using metal shields on their walls and grounding them. Hmm

Which is why Ohio is about to be the most based state. There is a proposed amendment to the state constitution that would abolish all property taxes in the state. That amendment just passed the approval process to be put on the ballot for the next election.

i have no wifi, its cable internet, this is perfectly save. my wifi is off. stop radiating yourselves!

Any thing digital can be hacked and is usually doubling your bill when they are installed.
Mechanical meters water or electric are highly accurate. Jews don’t like things that are accurate, it’s why we have digital voting now too.

including the risk of electrocution or fire.

No. All you need is a good pair of rubber gloves.

Scary ass Rammsteinigger. Those countries couldn’t give a rats ass about private property. What happened to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness? Companies should be beholden to the constitution.

That's not removing the meter though.

Contracts aren’t worth the paper they are typed on. Whenever they like they change the terms

Don't get your hopes all up. It's probably (((Wexner))) and the New Albany company lobbying for themselves and on behalf of all of the companies coming in trying to turn Ohio into the next silicone valley that will ruin it and suck it dry (literally in some cases).

Odd my water and power meter dropped 20$ when it was installed. Based upon the past 6 months usage that was how much it dropped per month.

Smart meters are shilled to prevent electricity theft

This is basically an addition that the new meters are madenti make your bill higher

Yeah this happened to me too. Ever since they put the smart meter in, my bill has been hilariously inaccurate. Get this, last month I started running my A/C everyday because I'm a fat ass american and its my right to not sweat and we had a heat wave here out of season...and I thought, shit the bill is going to be high this month.
Normally, on a normal month, I run about 100-120. In the summer when I run the A/C all month? About 300.
Guess what my bill was? 12 bucks. Not even joking.
I got an email from my electric company the next week after I paid the bill that it was wrong and they'd be updating it in the next bill and adding to it.
Smart meters, right? Real smart.

Yeah if that was a legit option this thread wouldn’t be here. I’m ranting about the fact they are allowed to just completely fuck you and make you feel like a child with zero agency over your own property whenever they please.

Don't like the utility company? Well why don't you start your own power company?!

It's just stupid. There's no market force at work here, there's one option. Why is this private at all?

This is why you put a lock on your fucking gate.

That needs a good wash down with a hose

Whenever they like they change the terms

The contract says they can.

Yeah, I got one from a company called Smart Meter Guard and checked it with an EMF reader. Now if I could just convince my neighbors to put one on their meters…

Exactly. You are just a cow to them to be milked. A human resource for exploitation.
Enjoy CAPITALISM!

everything must be smart. Smart is the eyes of Jewish system on you.

soon obligatory health wearables

What's the point of a contract that just says

We do what we like when we like and you have no recourse

That's not even an agreement. Especially when it's for a necessity you can't say no to.

The law might as well just say that the utility company is a feudal lord with divine right to electrical shit.

Moving out of my apartment

Call power company to do final reading

They arrive and read the meter across the street

I correct them and show them my building and where the meters are

Nope, sorry anon you are on this meter across the street

WTF??? I've been paying for the fuckers across the street for two years??

If only I could just have my normal, old, analogue meter that someone had to walk over and check. But NO I gotta buy $60k worth of shit to get my freedom back that I had two months ago? American revolution happened over less tyranny than this. It’s fucked because there is only one power company distributing per area so it might as well be a kings decree that ALL HOUSES SHALL NOW BE SATURATED WITH RADIO AND MONITORED BY THE NSA WITH DARPA TECHNOLOGY YOU CANT EVEN FATHOM

Another functionally illiterate teenager.

Maybe I should be able to. Since the house they’re slapping a meter on is my property.

How does a company have the right to put a smart device on my home that monitors every fuckin thing and potentially cut me off for wrongthink???

the fuck you think a smart meter is? i think that you are greatly overestimating how smart it is

wtf I hate having a high electricity bill!

omg yes daddy government tax me more so that I'm still paying for my electricity but now also some nigger's

Abusive contracts offered to you by a services cartel with more money to spend in lawyers than you

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What's the point

To have electricity.

OP formed a new contract with them.

I told them I want to opt out

they said okay and walked away

Verbal agreement from company to not install a new meter.

got informed via voicemail it would be $15 extra per month on the bill

price I’m willing to pay

Verbal agreement from customer to pay $15 extra for continued service using old meter.

Company breached contract, should be sued.

Clearly it is time to weapon up and perpetuate mass casualty events targeting federal buildings using firearms and explosives, my friend!

I had a neighbor that had stolen power so many times the disconnect the wires from the pole to his meter. He would take heavy wire and a wooden pole and lay the bare end of the wire over the wires come off the trans former.
It used to make my lights dim lol

good times when you could slow down the rotating disc inside those old counters. does that work with smart meters as well, or will it just fuck em up?

doesn't your electric company have a website where you can see in real time how much power you are using?

- Don't pay the bill
- Get late notices
- They cut off your electricity
- Get a generator

- Extra credit: Get a bypass switch at your panel where you can cut off city power and run on your own generator. They can have their "smart meter" but it will never get any usage.

ITS LUIGI TIME!!!!!!!

FEDS, I hope you take this threat seriously and arrest this commie

obligatory health wearables

This one'll be easy. The health insurance companies will just put a penalty on the insurance if you don't wear one that sends data to them. Private company and theoretically (not really) you can just get a different health insurance company, so the SCOTUS will sign off on it and Congress will shrug.

What are you, a commie or something? If you don't like your health insurance giant, why not just build your own healthcare cartel?

They will chip the people and put an oxygen- co2 meter and charge them for breathing co2 environment pollution.

ITS LUIGI TIME!!

you're a fag

Capitalism

Jewism

Hurr

How is the current system different except that you pay a private totally unaccountable company instead of the government? It might as well be the government for how much absolute power it has.

It's not about the transmitting. It's about protecting yourself from the radiation.

No data line on mine it’s radio frequency and I was wondering why I suddenly got tinnitus like a motherfucker two months ago without anything changing health-wise

And that's why we laugh when British mothers get arrested for mean tweets

No he’s right
Until all the Jews are dead

you'd have to bridge it or reinstall the old meter. both not trivial and illegal here. we pay 0.35 jew fiat/kwh

It says right here that you voted in all elections you could have voted. What are you going to do about it mutt? Do something. See what happens lol

They could do that without the contract. The contract only exists so the company can pretend you consented freely.

smart meters are low frequency, your phone, computer, router, etc. is higher frequency and inside your house

price I’m willing to pay

Pay some more and get a smart battery bank. Then you can charge it slowly during nighttime when electricity is cheapest and then use the cheaper power during daytime and the smart meter will mostly just see the average trickle filtering to your private battery.

Maybe, I just checked the site right now after you said that, but just get a nonstop loading spiral, so there you go. I'm in my 50s, I don't have time for that shit.

Encase it in lead.

The government is what's unaccountable. It's the governments fault alternative power companies can't enter the market.

Yes some do , and when you calculate your actual usage of your appliances using ohms law it never matches the digital usage. You’re always being ripped off , same with smart water meters.

PSA

You can request an old style meter but it's just a facade and inside is a fucking smart meter.

I'm serious, look it up

Wow, you might be on to something.

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Doesn't work on these anymore. They're all solid state electronics.
Jesus Christ at least use some lineman's gloves or something.

Capitalist shill.
You deserve capitalism to the fullest.

Doesn't work anymore.

Lucky you. I opted out, willing to pay the fee, and they came and installed the Rat-9000 anyway

Thunderf00t has thoroughly exposed Musk for the phony he is

Yeah, if you have the receipts, then it should be an easy legal case. They violated the contract, disturbed your property, and charged you money. Sounds like some easy emotional damages money.

Right-wing neoliberal spotted!

honestly anon it's probably just a fuckup. Have you interacted with any company in this dystopian Brazil tier muttified hellscape lately? I bet if you just talk to them they'll come back and put an analog one. I think the digital ones are bullshit too but I don't care that much. The smart water meter is much worse, they put one of those in at my house and my bills went way up because the lazy nog prior meter reader never actually read mine and just put down some low number every month. I had to turn my water off at the street one time and had to dig a bunch of dirt out to even see it LMFAO.

spoon doesn't become a fuse and blow up

what kind of weak-ass current is that? Do europoors get electricity via USB-C?

its capitalism!!!!

Capitalism is a made up ideology like communism. No one has ever followed a pure form of it and it does not exist. There is only the natural economy, which is state control when the people allow it and free enterprise when the leadership does not care.

The only right that needs to exist is the right to kill shitty leadership.

I pay my bill. They own the meter but not the rest of my property including all the wiring and outlets and air waves.

Not anymore. Now I can be inside under a roof and still get blasted 24 hours a day.

retarded faggot detected

Ok totalitarian monarchist

You couldn’t really slow them down , unless you interfered mechanically with the meter , slowed the wheel down with friction, but that involved cutting the seal and removing the glass cover. It was much simpler to splice into the power before the meter using an insulated tap.
I knew an old farmer the shot a bb hole in the meter glass and would stick a piece of straw through it to rub on the big wheel , he would take it out when they would check the meter.

My electric company is a co-op and I think they do a good job most of the time.

Shut up Jew monster

pisses in your face in solar

Are you getting the message yet?

They will just unhook your service at the pole and charge you for it

they can't do shit cuz its not europe and no law protects them, they are just sheep to be fucked at will

There is no escape from the radio and microwaves tho. Unless you build a sensory deprivation chamber and return to monke.

230 volts
50 hrz

The EMF reading is significantly lower but the signal can still be read by the power company even with it left on

they use a zigbee mesh network and think about the EM environment it's always running in, huge power cables. It's obviously pretty resilent

Have you considered putting solar panels on your roof?

You misspelled communism.

Funny you say that, when I told her they put it on she did sound unusually happy. She was booty blasted about the $15 per month. I bet she did this…

I figured the image is a joke because for a bypass like that you need a thicker conductor like a solid copper dildo

How do these measure the amount of electricity you use? If they are just detecting the amount of electricity flowing through a wire, open that shit up and wire up a second wire in parallel with the wire they are sensing on to halve your bills

retarded faggot detected

so you think it's some master plot against the OP and it's impossible that the bloated retarded power company just fucked up and didn't record the exemption or something? It's possible I just don't think they care that much

Pretty much.

That thing will melt whatever is left of your brain off.
I heard trees and any living thing near it is dying rapidly.

Cover it in an aluminum cage. They rely on wi-fi signal

I can’t do this, don’t even know where to begin or what I’m looking at. My parents clearly failed me.

How do these measure the amount of electricity you use?

amps n shieeet

halve your bills

That'd only work if you add additional load. They maintain logs of usage so they can tell something odd is going on if your energy usage changes drastically.

Just don't have electricity and you won't have to have a smart meter.

K.

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Take it off with a sledgehammer. They have no right. You wouldn't tolerate your neighbors installing a camera on your property, why then this?

Not true
You can make your whole house a faraday cage by lining the walls ceiling floors with metal screen , copper is best , but aluminum or steel windows screen works well too , then you ground all of it to a ground rod. You will have NO signal in your house though , no phone tv or radio. You could just do the bedroom, so you get ten hours less a day. This is important if you live near a 5 G tower. A friend of mine had a large one close ( a block away ) and his grounding wire would get noticeably warm from all the RF energy being absorbed by the cage. Scary.

What does that do? Does your power go out if you do this magnet thing you speak of? What if you put a farday cover over it? you can buy em off amazon pretty cheap. but then what happens?what does that do?

Slowly reduce your usage over a month or two and then do it along with increasing usage

OP isn't telling the truth. It's a completely made up rage bait story that belongs on leddit.

wouldn't it detect that the current of the live and neutral wires doesn't match?

Technically the utility owns the meter and has a right to go onto your property to check their property. Same with sewers and before deregulation telephone lines.
Don’t like it? Go off grid

t. Worked at the sewer district for a summer and learned about this quirk in the law regarding trespassing because it comes up about once a month about some boomer refusing access to our property

What would happen if you put a faraday blanket around it? Would your power still work? Would the power company know something is up?

Some municipalities won’t let you live in house without city power , or water or sewer

faraday cage is the answer, it uses low pulse wifi to mesh network to main hub reader

When did you realize that complete and total work boycott will literally set humanity free from artificial control systems?

Mind control

Media narratives

Political theatre

Poisoning through chemtrails and "food"

Energy cartels

Glow Ops

Maritime law

Religious indoctrination

Fake history

Fake news

Fake medicine

Fake science

Anonymous society in cities

Nuclear family

Fearmongering

Endless wars

Enshittification of music, art, architecture

Electromagnetic waves and using them as weapons against humans to cause health damage and organ failure

Weather control and earthquake weapons

Destruction of economy, currency and financial systems

Destruction of ethnic spirits through muttification of the gene pool

GMOs

Evolution theory

Brainwashing in schools

Restricting of human power(s) and abilities through artificial influences on DNA

Modern slavery, consoomerism, corporatism, lobbying

Psychopathic religious sects, NGOs, Megacorps and secret services working toward global technocrat one-world government NWO

Freemasonry and other goodgoyistic power structures

Soul- and life-energy sucking demons

and the end boss:

Transhumanism

How much longer will humans tolerate this?

YOUR WATER METER IS “SMART” TOO??? Holy shit man, haven’t you heard if something is free or even earns you profit, you’re the product? At least they can’t shut off your water when you say nigger online like they can with the electric

They still do in person readings. They would notice you tampered with the box the next time they were there.

Yes they would be out there in a few hours / days
You can be charged criminally and civilly for interfering with the meters , they claim your trying to steal power.

i did that, long ago, with a very fine dental drill and similarly fine wire. it never got detected. those days are over though. i only heard of the magnet method and assume it would take quite a heavy one. bridging the meter is bold and requires blank wire connection points, that normally wouldn't be there. not even sure if this couldn't be detected from afar, as well.

Wow, sad. You could have been mining bitcoins or something.

based glowie

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Tell them you have no clue who did it and that it wasn't you. It's their property so it's their problem and they have no proof you did it

it was standard to change service provider before tampering. you could state the usage expected and make contract based on this. you're right though, no consumption would be odd, unless it is one of your 12 weekend palaces.

Luigi Time.

How big of a pussy do you have to be to get cucked by the power company?
What a fucking idiot.

This nigger glows.

Then inform them by certified.mail that you will need your old meter back and that they have 10 business days to comply or
it's lawsuit time!

Then move to somewhere that allows it.

His wife probably consented to it while the guy from the power company was fucking her in OP's marital bed.

Would the power company know something is up?

Without sifting through every reply here to respond to them all, the people who make these things are quite secretive about precisely what security features they have in them. For instance, it wouldn't surprise me if they have some way to detect things like the incoming power being disrupted as it could be an indicator of tampering. Removing the cover would also be easy to detect.

At least they can’t shut off your water when you say nigger online like they can with the electric

That literally never happens in the US. Stop making shit up. It's weird and pathetic.

The meter is their property as is everything after that, retard. Prove it's measuring inaccurately. You're the kind of retard that thinks they own the easement too. You're getting hydroseed, bitch.

they own the meter though and charge a fee for using it. no easy way out of this, unless it is tkd.

organize a rebellion thats my plan. im gonna start setting fliers on neighbor doorsteps to organize a boycott of the power company until they remove smart meters. mass rebellion is the only way you can ever succeed with this. they have a monopoly on the power supply so its not like you can jump ship to a competitor. i guess you could invent a new power technology and power your own home and everyone elses though but then you would turn into the same kike

That's not a smart meter, it's an AMR meter, just a normal digital meter they can read from the road instead of walking up.

you neo boomers are always entertaining with your little gotchas and tips and tricks to try and avoid smart metering. we can see all your usage at any time even at the line level and it's all mapped out on massive gps/satellite data maps. I go the extra mile to try and figure out more ways to screw hicks harder when they try to bypass meter reading.

t.smart meter/scada developer

Let them, then make your own power company

Your neighbors don't give a shit. I guarantee that. All you're going to succeed in doing is getting yourself labelled as some lunatic that everyone will now laugh at behind your back.

boomers

My Irish boomer neighbour unplugs the smart meter display because she thinks it means it's no longer billing for energy usage.

Oh, and she has a third of a million pounds in current account. And two pensions. One from her husband who died over a decade ago.

off the grid

not possible

i have solar and they still require you to connect to the grid

there were yt vids of farmers around here, who turned huge old ship diesels into generators that they'd run on biogas. ofc, that takes cattle and plant material and some incubator and and, but the vid i have in mind claimed, he was self sufficiently providing energy for the whole farm. dunno if this can be scaled down. just have a farm, i guess.

This. Unfortunately. But they are the spice of life, the local moderate loon.

Easy solution...
Buy some metallic paint (that blocks emf & rf frequencies). Paint the inferior wall opposite the smart meter. This will prevent the meter from spying on your electronic devices.

implying it's anything other than security by obscurity

Just cut the connection

They don't have the right. At least in my state. And the things are fucking CRAZY high with the EMF reading. There have been documented health risks if the E meter is installed close to your bedroom.

Hey I have an old mechanical meter still on rural property. I don't think they walk up and check it. They just monitor it thru the lines or something right?

get solar or something, fuck the electric companies

My solar panels turn off when the main power is out :) They're not even connected to my house, those cables just go straight back out to the mains, so the power "I" generate becomes a minor discount on my fees

Why is this private at all?

That's the neat part. It isn't.

Most power companies are monopolies and are allowed to exist like this because of a bunch of bullshit during the King Nigger years.
For me they made it mandatory that we have to share into the grid if we have redundant sources installed into the house (solar, generator). You still get charged the same.

if you live in a city you are swimming in RF and EMF all fuckin day even if you turn all your shit off, but its not ionizing and does nothing, maybe a slight chance it fucks with your melatonin or microbiome.

There were plans years ago for a device 220v that placed over the meter and turned it on , one time use ,and it would permanently damage the meter and slow it down , sometimes with a noticeable wobble in the meter wheel.
Theoretically you would have your sub-panel hooked up to your tap wire wires , then place your tap device on the hot utility wires , install your tap wires , then tighten the tap device. You have power !
The hardest part is hiding your tap splice , in a residential house , you would cut a hole in the ceiling right next to the heavy steal conduit from the pole / power supply , carefully use grinder , cut slot in conduit, pull out small wire loop ( both legs or just one ) with a come along and attach your taps. This is illegal and dangerous for the careless or stupid. So don’t do it!
This is / was popular with indoor weed growers.

Yup

You can use them as combined heat and power generators just by connecting the cooling jacket to radiators. The dutch are very keen on that with their greenhouses and it totally makes sense but many people still have no idea why you might want to do that.

the West has never believed in human rights anon.

I have seen this advertised, copper paint , but have heard from several people that it doesn’t work well ( to thin ?) Don’t know never tested.

My solar panels turn off when the main power is out :) They're not even connected to my house, those cables just go straight back out to the mains, so the power "I" generate becomes a minor discount on my fees

You fucked up massively by having them registered / installed for export there anon.

It's very inevitable where that's going "equity" wise.

Those jumper cables, both wires and clamps, are not good enough to handle that.
Do not do this with stuff that cant handle the load.

yes, the mains power carry data signals.

Look, if you do not need your power for a while, destroy it with thermite.
Just be careful. Do not use a lot of it, a coffe cup (italian one) or a little less. Be ready with a fire estinguisher or two (one dust and one co2, first the former than the latter).
It will absolutely oblierate the meter. You can then claim it shortcircuited. There will be nothing left to prove otherwise. But you still have to have the old meter.

The hardest part is hiding your tap splice

I've lived with heroin addicts before. They literally just get a piece of cable, strip the ends and jam each end in either side of the live terminals. It's rather dodgy but works well enough for nice quick and dirty hack.

I work for power company as a meter technician.
If you signed contract, you gave permission to come to your property, where meter is, and to upgrade and maintenance. Doesn't matter if you are present or not.
Natural gas meter and water are also going smart and use cell network to monitor their meters.
Again, it's their meters, not yours.
It may suck, but your phone invades your privacy WAY more lol

Kek. I do this about once a month where I get mad at a neighbor, friend or one of my kids for doing something only to find out it was actually my own wife. It's the price we pay for having them. Mine makes up for it with blowjobs

you still have to pay the monthly service charge

and they tried to triple the monthly service charge because people keep getting solar

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their infrastructure, their rules; don't like it? generate your own kilowatts

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No, it's probably read once a year

Solar

That's what I assumed. Thanks, I didn't want to call them and ask like some kindof weirdo.

it’s real

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No it’s wireless typically radio signal or WAN

Fucking which is it?

The power company makes you pay to verify the accuracy of their meter.

I work in the industry brainlet. mains carry data, smart meters have rf mesh, as well as 3g/4g backhaul. 3 levels of redundancy for real time reporting.

The other option, is getting the opt out, which is same meter minus network card.
You will have to pay a monthly rate for it and we need to eyeball read your meter every 30 days
You need to let us have access to meter to read it.
If you keep the gate locked or always have a dog that prevents us from reading it, then we will swap you to the regular smart meter.

My father's trashy friend did that too so they ripped out every cable going from the pole to the house.

That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard

Just wire them up to your house and use them. Get iron phosphate batteries or whatever it's called.
Fucking electric goes out for a few weeks just every year here, also daily power outages lasting between 1 second and 1 hour

Tell them to fuck off and don't pay any bills they send you

They use wireless mesh signals and towers in the UK. There are signals sent through the mains network though, like they can or used to switch road lights on and off by sending a harmonic into the mains that the lamp posts detect.

they will just cut power to your entire neighbour, dumbass

Like I posted before I had a neighbor that used to use a wooden pole to lay a cable on one leg of a utility trans former lol.
The tap I described is for reliable/ “safe” invisible theft of large amounts of high current power. Never done it myself self but seen it done many many time in the California indoor growers scene.

That’s an elbow based junction module.
The electric there is at primary level.

Yes utility easement

It’s wireless

Bypassing a meter is so easy

I used to read electric meters for the power company. Some people would surround them with foil or copper mesh. I don't think it really did shit except annoy me. At most it wouldn't relay the signal to the next meter so you'd gave to read it manually.

where I live it would be cheaper to just run a diesel generator at this point

Nice try. We all know Jews use the smart meters to monitor our thoughts for wrong think and give us cancer.

You do ? Then you should know better than posting bullshit lol

IT'S LUIGI TIME

You hear that on Goyslop TV and think you know the story or something? Dumbass approves of removing White goys from positions of wealth, power, and influence. STFU, you normie geek. You sound like a Jew. Fuck off.

Whats with all the reddit garbage posted here these days. Fuck off you nigger. The sun is not comparable to some jewish big daddy monitoring device spewing out cancer you fucking boostmaxxed retard.

Lawsuit.

Install a line filter on the power line; no more chance for them to snif any info from your devices through the power line.

They (((SCE))) were coming out to read mine because I am an opt out customer every month but the guy would make comments about needing a new panel and shit like expensive upgrade shit to fuck with me. I studied up on code, pulled a homeowners permit and did it myself. Got a little respect from them after that and they not only "let" me keep my old one they have been totally cool since. I have a big GSD though so they knock before they come in my backyard, they tried to switcheroo me a couple times but I was home and caught him installing the smart one and told him call a supervisor cause you may NOT attach that to my house. Fucking they know the bill goes up with those things.

So my mechanical meter was upgraded to wireless? I just looked at the gears spinning in it.

No, mechanical meters required humans to check them.
The coin clippers shitcanned thousands of people by making them remote readable.

Yet. But we just went from 0% possible to 100% possible and it’s weird and pathetic you’re defending them

How difficult is it to fry the electronic circuitboard which measure the volt & amps with an EMP from electromagnet?
Does it have a built in contactor which opens when the measuring system dies?
Can it detect being tampered with EMP's?
Are you familiar with Landys&Gyr meters?
What are the weak points of these meters?

The $15 dollars is because a worker has to waste time checking your dumbass meter, retard. Pay up or shut the fuck up, retard. You fucking clown.

They don't like to get out their truck
They would rather build a mesh net to remotely provide a C&C infrastructure for hackers than get off their ass and get bitten by niggers dogs

code violation = illegal you stupid fucking nigger. it means you get escalating fines followed by condemnation of your property and eviction.

mutt seethes as he finds out houses and utensils aren't made of paper everywhere else

The whole reason they are doing this is because people steal power to grow weed in their basements. Power companies could give a fuck what you are doing at home so long as you pay the bill. They incentive you to use smart thermostats not so they can jew you off the grid, but because Ecobee, Nest, etc. pay THEM to have you install their shit.

I worked for power company for years and I promise you they are the slowest, most traditional, old school corporations in existance. Also, pot growers used to steal TONS of power before these smart meters came out.

t. power engineer

You can file a PUC complaint for free against the utility company.
No lawyer necessary.

All you need to do to disconnect from the grid is turn off the main breaker in the breaker box. If you are planning on running your home on a generator, it's important to do this before you fire up the generator. You should probably get an interlock installed that will prevent both of them from being connected at the same time.
I live in an area that regularly has bad storms that knock out the power and a lot of people here have generators. Every time this happens, there are always people who forget to do this and end up pumping electricity back through the main breaker and into the grid, zapping linemen working on it and fucking up repairs.

PUC won't do shit. OP has to pay to keep a manual meter or he needs to shut the fuck up.

utility companies will still charge you a minumum amount per month even if you dont use any power lmao

radio

Your house is surrounded by radios. Just install a cage around it (as long as it can be accessed by power company).

I had to attempt to appease some crazy lady due to a PUC complaint.
She told me the stray electricity was making her children fight.
Totally bonkers, but educated and rich.
Did surgery on horses…

I worked with Landys&Gyr/Siemens/Mitsubishi/|tron meters. the meters usually detect phase changes, voltage drops and has anti tamper devices like circuit sensors and gyroscope for tilt tampering. I suppose the electronics board would be susceptible to to any emp like any other board, they aren't enclosed in a faraday cladding or anything. faults are automatically relayed and the log can be traced back to the "last gasp" message. just getting a lost "heartbeat" would trigger someone to physically go check the meter installation. I mainly worked on the software side but got to touch physical stuff from ed to time to time.

An old analog dial meter has to be manually read, if it's a real rural area it's probably read once a year.

right, i forgot about that. the ship diesel was in fact used for heating and hot water, too. makes sense when one has the room and means for such closed system. cows shit, plant material grows and a silo/incubator for gas production isn't that expensive. this farmer was truly and enviably 'off grid' and eco.

depends on the electric company

I don’t have to grow weed because it’s legal in my state to just go to the store and buy it. They want the smart shit so they can know WHEN you are using power then charge you a floating rate for peak hour use. I want my flat rate back. My power bill went up after they put in the new meter and nothing changed. I literally stopped using the electric oil radiator heater in my bedroom and my bill went up the following month.

Did you read my posts you illiterate fuck? I WANTED TO PAY $15 AND THEY SWITCHED MY SHIT AGAINST MY WILL. Fucking stupid. Why post? Fuckin bootlicking boomer. Day of the pillow can’t come soon enough for you statist anti American dipshits

gotta tell them youre jewish or they wont take you seriously

Sweet. I’m going to blanket my meter with grounded copper mesh until they get so sick of coming out here without their $15 per month they switch me back

Sue them into oblivion.

Jesus Christ you're fucking retarded