50000 Russian troops attack Sumy

Ukraine has only getting stronger

You're in a bubble if you think this. Ukraine has been facing manpower issues for a while. While their forces are not degrading they aren't growing either.

Ukraine has been facing manpower issues for a while.

That is the narrative that the Kremlin pushes

Ukraine has been facing manpower issues for a while

and then kursk happened

Remember when a hundred thousand troops attacked Vovchansk? Three days to Karkiv, right? Ziggers gone awfully quiet about that now they've been almost pushed out of the city.

He probably means in terms of force multipliers and technology. While their manpower hasn't grown, their army is probably more modern now than anybody that isn't a major NATO nation like the US, UK or what have you. Hell, I've heard they've been deploying UGVs and unmanned turrets.

Yes, that doesn't mean it's false. idk why you would push back on this topic.

Kursk amplified their problems and is yet another example of Slavic retardation.

Degrade your best units for... Nothing.

the best the west can send to save Ukraine is thoughts and prayers

Sounds about right

They have been trying to do it a long time. The problem Russia has is they're not very good at war, their army is not actually that much larger than Ukraine's and they have the exterior lines while Ukraine has the interior lines.

Oh, yeah, obviously. I'm talking more about manpower as right now that's what really matters. You need meat to man the front. Better kill-chains and fires are important, of course, but it's the guy with a rifle that holds ground.

Kursk was a tremendous success. It attrited Russians at 10-1, it forced Russians to deploy troops across the whole line of contact and prevents them from massing forces in the East.
There's a reason you kremlin whores shill against it so much.

Degrade your best units

To "bleed the enemy white"

Me despising Verdun-tier tactics doesn't make me a Russian shill.

lost multiple millions while ukraine has only getting stronger, so the war is about over and ukraine wins. Simple as.

ukraine has been facing manpower issues for a while. While their forces are not degrading they aren't growing either.

ukraine has been facing manpower issues for a while

and then kursk happened

The problem Russia has is they're not very good at war, their army is not actually that much larger than ukraine's and they have the exterior lines while ukraine has the interior lines.

Anon Babbleshill is easily confused it seems. They don't send their best.

Kursk was a tremendous success. It attrited Russians at 10-1, it forced Russians to deploy troops across the whole line of contact and prevents them from massing forces in the East.

There's a reason you kremlin whores shill against it so much.

Verdun-tier tactics

Kremlin narrative isn't false

Im not a russian shill I swear

Why are vatshills so retarded

Verdun-tier tactics

Yes.

Do you know what an ad hom is?

Appeal to ridicule fallacy

Unless you have any substantive points to make, I shall accept your concession.

10:1

lmao do pigs really fall for this?

a 10-1 ratio of casualties in your favor isn't exactly "Verdun tier" tactics, doubly so when you're fighting an existential war against an aggressive invader. What exactly are the ukes supposed to do in your eyes, just roll over and let the Russians stomp all over them?

the entire kursk gambit was to seize a nuclear powerplant on Russian soil, to blackmail Russia into ukrainian 'negotiation' terms, under the threat of detonating the plant

london literally actually thought that was 'the play'
the best minds in whitehall came up with "nuclear blackmail" as some kind of asymmetric solution to the 'credible threat' issue

Do you know what an ad hom is

Starts posting fake videos

Didn't take long for the mask to come off lol. We used to get a better quality of shill

10-1

Where are those figures from?

Existential war

It's not. If it was they would have mobilized. They haven't and won't.

What exactly are the ukes supposed to do in your eyes, just roll over and let the Russians stomp all over them?

Not waste your finest units on fools errands. Let the Russians do that.

uuuhm the hundreds if not thousand of cases of conscriptobichmilitiamen are all fake
nice cope

Seething about bongs out of nowhere

Yep that's a Russian.

You're talking to two different people.

Neither the US nor UK were told about Kursk.

keep arguing. thread is going to be deleted soon so better squeeze something out of it

It's not. If it was they would have mobilized. They haven't and won't.

An opposing nation invading your lands and trying to take your sovereignty from you is not an existential war

Nice job showing your hand zigger.

the european dream.webm

a 10-1 ratio of casualties in your favor

got any proof?

If it was an existential conflict, they would have mobilized. They have not. The existential phase is over (Ukraine won). This is now a border conflict.

You're talking to two different people.

Pretty sure you're playing the "reasonable" "just asking questions" role to try and play off against "frothing zigger". The frothing zigger runs interference and gets his obvious troll posts banned and allows you to spread propaganda with less resistance.

(Ukraine won)

Damn, someone should tell the Russians that so they turn around and go home.

i'm pretty sure even the dumbest russian already knows that they'll never set foot in Kyiv

only deluded KGB jews like putin are unaware

it forced Russians to deploy troops across the whole line of contact and prevents them from massing forces in the East.

Retard, Russia has more than 3 times the population of Ukraine, all the Kursk offensive did is waste well equipped battalions that might have been better spent relieving fatigued Ukrainian defenders in the South.

Russia has more than 3 times the population of Ukraine

So you're saying that it'd take russia 3 times its population to match equalize their attrition rate with Ukraininas?

So you're saying

stop arguing like this

Defense can't win you wars.

wannabe super power

50k men is now a major attack

There were days when more than this died in world wars

I'll stop arguing when you stop shilling.

Americunt shills don't know how to properly argue.

basic war strategy is shilling!

Ameritard

no i'm not shilling you're shilling

Problem with that being that the Russians are overstretched themselves to the point of being unable to launch meaningful offensives anymore, which makes it a lot easier for Ukraine to economise their own manpower.

it's Ukraine who is suffering from manpower shirtage!

n-not russia who's down to inly having 50k men for a major attack

every accusation by your kind is a confession

basic war strategy is when i spam retarded cope on kremlin rupees

i will redeem the credit card and your family will starve to death

Good job repeating known, proven facts with a picture that does nothing to change them.

proofs

Reality. Seethe more about it, asiatic barbarian.

But why? Them getting their military-age male population genocided by the Ukrainians is an ontological, moral good thing and should continue.

got any proof?

well yes, Trump said that himself and the russians didn't even try to deny lmao.

It’s why Russia had to buy North Korean artillery shells that only fire half the time.

muh population

Meanwhile, Ukraine keeps killing 5-10 times as many Russians, while Russia is incable of actually mobilising its theoretical larger population nearly as well. The Kursk incursion bound cirtually all offensive strength the Russian Army had remaining and one-sidedly slaughtered tens of thousands of their best remaining troops. Which is exactly why pidor shills like (You) even now continue to seethe about it this hard.

degrade your best units

Well yes, Russias best remaining units were one-sidedly degraded in Kursk.

muh slavs

When will you finally klill yourself already, Indiana vatnigger?

while Russia is incable of actually mobilising its theoretical larger population nearly as well.

This is a key point a lot of "population" arguments are missing. The Russians are having to post enormous 40k USD equivalent sign on bonuses just to get people to sign up for the military. That'd be like the US army offering half a million to join up and serve.

Pretty sure you need meds.

They know. That's why war goals aren't another invasion via Northern Ukraine and instead eating up clay in the South. It's a retarded border war, likely motivated by energy.

True. But if you're going to waste combat power you're going to be on the defensive.

They aren't over stretched. They have changed tactics. Instead of Avdiivka style focused assualts they spread their attacks up and down the 1000km line. If they focus, Ukraine can focus and when there is parity of forces Ukraine will hurt them badly. But if they spread it out, it's harder for Ukraine to focus its elite units and they Russian results are "better" (relative term).

Russian forces have been consistently growing manpower wise. Equipment wise not so much.

lol /k can't behave again, get into your uhg chug containment thread and stay there

3 days ago, so we can assume all those 50,000 mobiks are already droned and dead in a ditch?

nothing ever happens

jannies, k is better than pol, wtf! fix pol!

/k is based as fuck.

They aren't over stretched.

They absolutely, visibly are.

they spread their attacks

So much so that said attacks have become next to completely ineffectual because even the slightest ukrainian resistance can wipe them out. Because they don't have the manpower for doing larger attacks. Becuase their supposed 3 times population advantage translates to quite a bit less than that on the ground.

are you nervous, Anon Babbleikes?
you should be

50000 Russian troops

They'll all be dead in less than a month

Was this moved here because it was about Russian success?

Meanwhile, Ukraine keeps killing 5-10 times as many Russians,

you Anon Babbleikes live in a delusional bubble and never ask yourselves "why is the ukranny only losing territory, begging for a ceasefire, and needs to press gang men off the street if they are winning bigly?"

They have another 50K near Kharkiv too

kino

again? they tried it at the start of the war and failed. they counldnt enter the city. its lame to try the same thing that already failed for the 2nd time. like do something else retard

lmao

Would you have told Messi that?

yes, messi succeded on the first try and kept doing it, if he was rejected or failed at soccer he would have do something else

The shit thread was moved to the shithole for retards.

This tiny man is getting squashed.
Screen cap this.
Also, shills don't win wars. Just make them ridiculous.
Nato is done after this, no amount of lying can save it now.

I meant at winning a trophy for Argentina which was his ultimate goal. Their goal is to capture these cities.

50,000 more dead Russians incoming.....
Excellent.

yeah now go back to Anon Babble we're sick of your reddit threads being moved over here, also why do you even go on Anon Babble when you cant even take a butter knife outside without getting arrested fag

How do you know what reddit looks like?

Its full of faggots

That whole north eastern quadrant of Ukraine looks wide open on the battlemaps. How many troops does Zelensky have left to send up there to stop them?

That is the narrative that the Kremlin pushes

even kikelensky admits it, NAFO troon

Ukies only lost two people in this whole war you pidor kremlin shill and both died of natural causes

troops out in the open

with no fortifications

inside a single pocket

attrit the enemy better than heavily fortified urban defense points.

just believe it goy!

Lmao. You are absolutely retarded. HIMARS, the remaining SAMs, and a ton of artillery systems were brought into range and destroyed by this retarded misadventure. Look an attack towards Kursk would have been a good idea. If they’d done that INSTEAD of the 2023 counteroffensive in Zap. Imagine 500k soldiers and 150k fully western trained and equipped hitters rolling that border instead of the 50k they sent. Shit would have been MUCH different.

According the Ukraine supporters it does.

They have too. As we stated from day one:

don’t inflate the enemy losses!

because either you end up in a place where you have to stop reporting anyone killed for years

or you end up with an absurd number no one will believe

And they did it anyways. And they just have to keep up having victory after victory that is unverifiable and steadily marches west to the Dniper….

It IS a credible threat. The AFU has shelled ZNP throughout the war. And Ukraine could at least trade KNP for ZNP and put the whole land bridge in jeopardy.

Basically none. Which is why it’s merc drone crews doing the heavy lifting in that AO, but they are getting attrited hard and are flat out abandoning Ukraine. See the Chosen company fucking off.

When your foreign blocking troops are fucking off, you’ve got problems at the front….