On the possibility of a British Civil War

Very, very interesting articles for my fellow bongs to read here, from an interview with David Betz - for context, a super well connected professor of war studies at Kings College, who helped write the british army's doctrine on counterinsurgency
unherd.com/2025/04/is-civil-war-coming-for-britain/
some key excerpts

What counts as normal in many Western countries today — the UK, the US, France, to name a few — has created ideal conditions for mass violence, dissolving government authority, and even social collapse… It’s kind of a perfect storm.”

“If the state ceases to offer stability and justice, then people will do as the Romano-Britons did, and look to their own defence… No trust means no legitimacy. And that’s when everything begins to unravel.”

“Attacks on key infrastructure will be used to devastate cities and frustrate government attempts to restore order… Cities will be dark, cold, rioting and unpoliced…

“I think anybody living in big cities — anybody in, say, London or Birmingham — should leave

His core thesis is that britain is on a path to a form of civil war akin to a version of the troubles, based primarily along ethnic/racial lines, and that the government is completely clueless as to the scale of the problem and their ability to face up to it
He also specifically cites that his connections in the army and in government share his concerns but are too worried that their careers would be destroyed by any attempts to raise the issue

thoughts anons? It'd be nice to have a thread actually discussing politics here for once

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we are already in the stage of civil unrest, ulez cameras being destroyed, car park machines being smashed. im slightly suprised that migrant hotels are not already being torched, not by mobs of mongs but by dedicated individuals.
The proposition of reform coming in might aliviate the pressure a little with the promise of chaning things but once everyone reaslises they wont or cant change anything i expect the country to be in full blown troubles style violence by 2032

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you should listen to the podcast this guy in the article did because he talks about exactly that stuff youtu.be/Gid48FgiHho?si=RZhvt9KDeA4Z8eil (also on spotify, great podcast ep in general)
his argument with ULEZ is that it's a perfect example of the kind of violence he predicts - targeted, politically motivated / anti-establishment infrastructure attacks spurred by a perceived illegitimate government (the mayorship of sadiq khan in this instance)
his prediction isn't so much car bombs and shootings so much as power lines, power substations, water processing plants being sabotaged, acts of targeted arson, etc etc, all to destabilise the increasingly non-english cities. He seems to think that the uk is in an economic death-spiral, whilst multiculturalism will keep taking root and sowing division, and that the rest of the world will also be sinking into an era of great global unrest and conflict such that nobody will really be coming to help us. he thinks the same of france (although imo france will be much, much worse) too

OI BRUV IT'S 'IVIL WAR IT IS!!

Anybody who thinks Britain can descend into civil war doesn't understand the modern British psyche. This country is almost completely socially atomised to the point where nobody cares about anythgin other than their own personal circumstances. Most people out there do not care one iota about race or the Government etc they are more concerned with where they are going on holiday.

we are already in the stage of civil unrest, ulez cameras being destroyed, car park machines being smashed.

Low IQ entitled carfag scum who got upset because somebody told them they weren't allowed to pollute other people's lungs. Those thugs have all been subdued and brought to heel via hefty fines and imprisonment. Your point does go to the fact that English people will get out of line over something as stupid as Ulez cameras, a football match etc but will never dare to commit violence over something that actually matters. If the mass rape of English children wasn't enough to spark civil war then nothing is.

Well, if the time would come, based on pure war gaming inside of my own head, I, personally, hypothetically, would start major fires in urban areas, then retreat to the countryside in a small town. Deny entrance to any darkie, lynch on sight regardless of age.
Remember, napalm is easy to make. Literally Styrofoam and gasoline, mix a little diesel in at the end for an added increased smoke effect and so its more liquidy than a sludge and has better spreadability on impact. When using bottles, any old beer bottle will do. Make sure to score the glass so it absolutely shatters on impact. Do not stuff the rag in and set it on fire, however. Cork it so you can use the neck as a handle to throw. For the flame, tape two hurricane proof safety matches to the sides of the bottle yoward the bottom and light when ready to throw. These matches can withstand upwards of 100 mph winds, so they won't go out when thrown.

I would gladly help the Brits retake their homeland

The civil war will be fought with wooden chippy forks and carrot peelers

thoughts anons?

I think it's almost guaranteed, but not just in Britain, but throughout Europe and the West. I think it's also going to be a massive boon for whites because it's going to happen in the city centres that are currently majority non-white, like London, or soon will be like Toronto etc

If London turns into a warzone, it's primarily brown on brown violence. With the centre in disarray then periphery regions that are majority white begin to self govern and resist the state and then can potentially better position themselves to overthrow the state.

But yes, he's absolute correct when he says get the fuck out of the cities. Even get out of the UK entirely and find those remote towns in Aus or NZ, you guys know you're always welcome here, leafs to. I think Aus is going to fare better because there is such a vast distance between us and the cities. Find those rural communities that offer a semblance of self sufficiency with respect to the absolute basics, fishing, farming, hunting, quarries, energy, water, timber industry (in the UK I think you guys burn peat as well for heat?), shipping etc, government services and supply chains are going to go to absolute fucking shit, crime is going to go through the roof. Start learning a LOT of basic practical skills from first aid to carpentry, plumbing, electrical work, mechanical work and get into drones. Really get into drones.

Can't be bothered to read all that, but yeah civil war is coming alright.
It'll get very factional.

Nativists/patriots

State

Muslims

Based asf. Wales LIVES

two years ago I would be 100% on your side but then southport happened. with where the economy's headed I think you massively, massively underestimate how many disaffected, angry young men with nothing to lose there are going to be out there

lol, you'll do nothing and things will slowly continue to get worse and more brown

Based

Fellow Uropean brits, what will you yourself do in the civil uprising?

Have a nice cup of tea and sit in the garden for a bit, probably

Remember when @realDonaldTrump tried to warn us about covid

the role of the police and army is what interests me the most. On the police, he thinks they're completely fucked and in other their head, simply because the uk is already in a state of borderline lawlessness and the cops can barely deal with crime as is right now, let alone on the scale of full scale civil unrest. On the army, he thinks that they're too few in numbers to make a large difference, BUT he makes the argument that when you look at who the army are - overwhelmingly made up of the exact same kind of white, working class men who showed up to the southport riots, and moreso who've spent the last thirty years fighting islamic terrorism, you start to wonder which side they'll truly end up on. I myself think one of the wackier possible outcomes here is some kind of monarchist coup by the army, something I've heard a LOT of people bring up in the circles I hang in

If you started a civil war make sure not to bring any bussy with you.

Prince Andrew's Own regiment will gun you down with overwhelming firepower and your POW's will be put in sex dungeons getting their bussys split everyday by horny deep state generals

youtu.be/n8nYdZw-7vE?si=jDllEF9SKp_loXDU

I would also add that he also thinks the cops are fucked because they're hyper-politicised and have fully bought into the multiculturalism/global britain ideal

Well they'd better depose and behead Charles then, because that shitskin loving faggot is an absolute detriment. Harry is a faggot, don't know much about Will, nor do I know of any minor Lord who could step up and tell Charles and his shitskin pets to get into the channel.

He's not saying anything new or shocking desu, the reason DEI raised such a perfect storm against it was partially because we already have such incompetence from authorities to deal with; it was an obvious attempt to befuddle their own.

Based super fun happy time Finnish cocktail enjoyer.

Come on brother don't shut me out like I'm one of them.

Come on, Schlomo, no-one's going to fedpost just because some memeflag asks them to

Will is a dark horse - he's made statements ambiguously stating that he intends to radically change the role of the monarchy, which could be code for more globohomo fuckery, but could also mean he has ambition for the role. I personally hold my loyalty to the crown, not parliament, so I'd happily see a more powerful king personally

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going down to the shop for a meal deal and some cigarettes, don't let the thread die

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be British

have no guns

civil war in the dark of London streets with claymores

need armor for the claymores

full on knight on knight combat

sounds a hell of a lot better than what you are doing now.

get some omega 9% cider and a pack of fruit pastilles for me lad

As soon as armor gets involved, swords get ditched and it's all hammers and clubs.

prince andrews own regiment would be knee deep in POW bussy if you did that

You're not going to have a civil war. Your population is too old and you have no military/economic Elite to rally around, thanks to Patron theory every political Elite in the Western world gained their wealth and power by selling out their countrymen. Most likely these articles are being fabricated so they can justify cracking down on you even harder and driving up police recruitment while lowering standards even further.

It's 7.5%

Cops following the law

lmfao

Lol what? If I was a cop I'm required by law to tell you I am a cop or else that's entrapment.

Lol fucking bullshit mate, even in the US that's not the case

I'm talking theoretically

No you're not, you're just fedposting.

How far have you thought it through?

LMAO

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You've got your hands full at home, dude.

Nothing will happen until a deus ex machina figure raises. Conflict means opposing parties have organization, and commoners do not have that by definition.

a version of the troubles, based primarily along ethnic/racial lines

It's already happening. Blacks and pakis have been attacking whites, and each other, out in the open on the streets with knives for years now.
It's just that the natives are still in denial. That kind of thing doesn't happen in ol' blighty. It just can't!

The absolute state of DEI at the 77th.

Crap like that is enough to dispel any aura of superiority from the enemy.

You do realize the point of massive immigration into Europe is to genocide all you guys? Like not even larping. They have stockpiles of weapons and they will provide them to the browns when shtf, while you have nothing to defend yourself. In turn this will create huge mobs of browns that will go around killing everyone starting in the cities then eventually going to the countryside. You can research it yourself there has been books written about it. It's always been about destroying Europe from day 1

Your govmnt bongs (Churchill and gel Skoby) was responsible for our civil war post 1945.

An incompetent enemy is often more dangerous than a competent one because he'll unleash violence that he neither understands nor has control of.

And how are they supposed to get the guns back from the browns after they're finished?
All assuming the browns have any will in carrying out such thing rather than disappearing with their new firearm, let alone any ability.
The only books written about it are dogsht fiction. I don't doubt the aim of the dregs in power is to reduce us to impotence, though that too is a fever dream.

Less organized and competent parties succumb to better ones.
The best they can do on this board is to endlessly spam rubbish threads and posts, and to embarrassingly try and fail to gather information. This is the fruit of countless hours of work and research, millions have been invested into these parties collectively and this is the best they have to offer, the dreg even got his comments deleted lmao. It's pathetic.

They have stockpiles of weapons and they will provide them to the browns when shtf

Absolute delusion, for one there is no massive stockpile and for second those brown retards will start killing themselves when shit hits the fan too, they're all brown too us but to each other they're Muslim, black, Arab, Indian, etc

I would be so sure
the UK is a very unstable shithole
they had massive shitskin riots in 2011 already

youtube.com/watch?v=dvEO8y5Zh7A

then last year white riots
and this year is also going to be a hot summer

They won't get the weapons back. That's the neat part.
The state or the jewish hegemony or whatever it is aren't thinking any further than their hate for the englishman. Their precious browns are going to eat them alive.

Not trying to blackpill anyone, but Southport was a relatively small happening. Massively blown out of proportion for political reasons

True. After the first week, the state jumped on it and started making up fake riots to separate people and go their "hope not hate" army out on the streets with professionally printed placards.
The only thing this government does well is thought control.

I was in Birmingham city centre yesterday, 4 out of 5 people were black or brown. A coon walked past me with 2 suitcases stinking of weed. Not a single police officer anywhere in sight. There was a queue of 200 people for the daily free food handout. Post-apocalyptic atmosphere.

What are the two tiers of the justice system which is mentioned in the article? We have this in Canada with Gladue reports given at sentencing, which have produced very predictable results.

loyalty to normans

So naive. They do not care about this country nor the native population and never have. Won’t trouble them one bit to let you be replaced. We could been a shining beacon of freedom and pride in Europe.

if trump was based he would be ordering the glownigger kikes to do this in the UK and start a civil war there to spread democracy

What are the two tiers of the justice system which is mentioned in the article

This nigger is serving a shorter sentence for murder than a white man who threw a bin at a cop

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Ok. Get to it. It’s been long enough

honestly southport riots were retarded but it at least gave an example to those people who are not working class mongs, that rioting and protesting leads to nothing and that if they want to do something it will most likely have to be small groups of people doing sabotage against the state. seriously how long do you think it will be till the migrant hotels get torched

got a 4 pack of budweiser and some sovereign blues, stopped off at the pub and had a pint with some locals and just got home to make myself a nice smoked salmon sandwich
good stuff

It's not gonna be that sort of unrest.
Everyone involved in the rape of the West has a name and an address.
It's fruitless to for example bomb a train, because that doesn't send a message to the right people, it simply upsets and hurts the people you're trying to save.
As such, that sort of terrorist activity is performed by the gouvernment, because they wanna hurt and scare those people into compliance.
This means that the unrest you're looking for doesn't happen in a bus involving 50 casualties and rampant destruction of every road and kerb it crashes along.
You'd be looking for a random politician, randomly involved, with random evidence justifying everything all over his dead body, somewhere behind a pub where nobody's caring to look.
And then a random CEO who's involved, and a banker, and so on. Individuals with demonstrable involvement, not masses of people.

It's the bit that comic movies where the villain is a self-professed vigilante always, very deliberately, get wrong.
Because if the Joker only ever hurt the tyrannical rapist, he's a hero.

David Betz

Damn this shit has been pushed and pushed for months now

I agree they get blown out of proportion but it's the first time we've seen a somewhat coordinated, nationwide expression of explicit, political anger from the white working class. that's HUGE. It's literally never happened before; and more importantly, the root causes of it are something which at the current rate will only keep getting worse. we will see more like it in the future I believe as things get worse and everyone gets just that little bit more pissed off
I would also add that you would be astounded at how few people you really need to get something like this going, even a few thousand genuinely motivated and organised blokes with nothing to lose could change the face of the country overnight

i think it will be a little while till we get to that stage, the english are not very sophisitated in civil unrest, which is why southport riots were so dumb, nothing gained but they all danced for the cameras and got arrested.

nonces get off for saying "im sorry" while people get months in prison for tweeting that they dont like wogs. when dealing with muslims the police defer to "community leaders" who tell them to fuck off naturally, and it was fine for all those lads to have machettes. but they go in full riot kit when whites assemble.

You wouldn't happen to know the exact wording of the city concept he references around 41:50 would you mate? Is it Faeral city?

youtu.be/Gid48FgiHho?t=2496

It’s all so ineffective and changes nothing.
This justifiable venom needs to be targeted at the right people in the right way to succeed. Mass civil disobedience in the form of Gandhi’s Satyagraha movement.

yeah, feral city, why do you ask?

Here in Canada we have serious wildfire problems. For years it has been said that many of these fires are set intentionally by native Americans, in order to make money fighting them, or just to cause trouble. The fact that ISIS or whatever never did this made me question whether or not the ISIS stuff was even real. Anyway, if insurgents did this it wouldn't even have to burn cities; the air quality get so bad that if it were all the snowless months, year after year, it would be a health disaster. If it were advertised as intentional, mass panic. I can't believe people still think having a bunch of competing factions in a country like multicultural Canada is a good thing.

Cheers found it, and just wanted to read the study he was referencing.

Didn't a load of churches in Canada get smashed up after false accusations that there were native mass graves under them?
And then, of course, those churches get replaced by sikh and hindu temples.

ncf is a bunch of old poofs scared that the pakis will chuck them off a roof

I'm glad you brought it up because it's one of the many reasons why I lean towards believing betz's thesis despite these fair concerns , rather than treating him like yet another "muh end times in two weeks" catastrophising grifter; he's extremely well connected, well researched, and everything he's saying has a concrete basis in empirical theory (specifically the academic doctrine of war studies and general IR). It's why I take it so seriously - if someone this educated is making these points and basing it off not just any research but the type of research that militaries commission, it's worth listening to imo

relatively small factions within distinctive identity groups

that relatively small is the key here - you DO NOT NEED everyone to rise up all at once. all you need are a proportionally small number of radicalised, motivated and intelligently directed people within given ethnocultural groups to change shit up massively

the dreg even got his comments deleted lmao

Sorry, who, anon?

The British are a cowed people. They will never commit to a civil war. When their government asks them to jump, they'll ask how hi, and if they don't they'll get a visit from the police for wrongthink.

Never in England as they're way too domesticated They're content to sing Don't look back in anger and find new types of knives to ban.
If violence ever does kick off in the UK again it will be in Northern Ireland, If there ever is a Islamic terror attack here then they'll quickly find out that they kicked the wrong bee hive.

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Did White Americans take to the streets after 9/11?

BLM protesters dragged whites from cars and beat them up.

Black on White Rapes/Murders/Muggings/Robberies and Theft, are off the scale.

BLM burned their cities

Stolen Election

Streets taken over by gangs

etc.

I must have missed the protests about these in America?

Europe has protests but Americans just hide at home telling everybody about their guns they are too frightened to use because they would be ripped to pieces.

Not my City - Not my town - Not my street - Not my basement . . . . .full of fucking excuses!

The Government allows you to have Guns as weapons because they know you are too cowardly to use them.

Any uprising against your 'Tyrannical Government' would be Quaushed immediately, even if you fired a few shots from your Walmart AR15. (with no training).Even your Home Guard would have you bleeding out and crying within minutes.

Get real Mutt.

see some bloke hiding behind a memeflag horrendously fedposting earlier in the thread
I'd be astounded if a fed actually did come into this thread but the fact he deleted his comments is pretty fucking odd
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There will be no civil war. The British military now dress up as women and wave rainbow flags.

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no need for complex plans or tactics, just fucken burn substations
that's it
when we had blackouts and needed to save energy, I was walking home in comlete darkness, headphones on, not a second thought
today you can't relax during daytime in some places in the West, blackouts will be chaotic

You should come visit us in the colonies. In 1971, Canada was 97% White. In 2021, we were 52% White, and since 2021 the floodgates have been absolutely opened by the Liberal party, who have just been reelected. I would say we are technically no longer a White country. I was surprised when hearing that England is still 81% White. We were told here it was demographic collapse that necessitated mass immigration, but we have changed much more than England so obviously those are lies.

I would welcome anyone's thoughts on what I have just said.

Do you remember that info image that went around during the riots? It identified Judges, former cases they sentenced (almost entirely sex offences) lightly, and then contrasted with absolutely draconian sentencing of not just rioters, but people who had only made social media posts? I don't know if this disparity is codified into law like Canada, though. The sentencing guidelines approach to the bias here probably allows them to say the law is the same for White and injuns, as it is only the sentencing that differs, in theory.

The UK will be an interesting test bed for the china project, there you have until recently a relatively decently educated population of reasonable people but with a leaning towards bootlicking. Add in decades of propaganda, a totalitarian digital prison being built up by Banks and corporations (every car park is now monitored by bank collection agencies) and then writing off huge swathes to paki retards when land is at a premium. Huge debt problems and declining living standards. something will have to give at some point. It has gone from being quite a decent place to live to a complete fucking nightmare in one generation

For years it has been said that many of these fires are set intentionally

Anyone with any experience fighting bushfires would tell you there's a very high probability of it. It's been suggested that fires have been intentionally lit here to push residents out and drop the value of areas that have been tapped for resource extraction by corporations for a while now. There's also been other incidents that are a bit more serious and direct that support those ideas, the timelines, events and people involved are very well documented by the blokes here.

When people scream racist, they're screaming pattern recognitist (fake word for my shit analogy), so when a bloke has spent his life studying, contextualising and understanding those patterns and starts expressing concerns about their emergence, it's at the very least worth hearing the man out. Most of us have grown up in relative comfort and security, but very few of us are more than a few generations removed from very unpleasant times. We (me) might not be able to academically articulate exactly what's happening, but it's pretty evident we're headed for unpleasant times.

Appreciate the thread and links.

I suspect the next Australia census will either completely bury or obfuscate race based data and iirc the UK openly admitted it would be doing something similar with their next census.

but people who had only made social media posts?

You like many, only saw clickbait headlines posted on social media, many of those convicted weren't just saying 'hurty words' but encouraged acts of violence and made threats.
having said that, it is also true, they went down hard on them - for political reasons.

you fantasists need to stop living in a youtube bubble, and enter the real world. there is no possibility of a civil war in britain. zero. most people are relatively satisfied with their lives, especially in comparison to the rest of the world. people like to complain about meaningless shit. 0.0001% are actually prepared to go to war with each other over this. it would interrupt their time on fifa, or at the pub, or on tinder, or watching netflix, or smoking weed.

Civil War in Britain is inconceivable.

The only way I could imagine it happening is if those who Identified as British became entangled in a multifaceted conflict against discrete Nationalist groups.

But

For that to happen these discrete groups would need to twig that their National Identity(Scots, Welsh, English, Irish) trumped so called White Identity. Currently I can't see how that would happen. White Identity is the a-priori default assumption ACROSS THE WORLD! Practically 99% of the peoples of this forlorn world *believe* White Identity is an Objective Reality. Whether that's because their dumb or manipulated is irrelivent. They take it as Truth.

Only when Europe and Europeans stand up and with one voice proclaim they aren't *White* will Europe and European's agonizing begin to cease.

Europe is not a Colony

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Anybody who thinks Britain can descend into civil war doesn't understand the modern British psyche. This country is almost completely socially atomised to the point where nobody cares about anythgin other than their own personal circumstances

Bro that's literally everyone in europe. I hate every single one of you and will never lift a finger for you.

what stupid polish babble

Nothing's going to happen when all those "angry young men" will be bullied into compliance by societal virgin-shaming.

the whole world is going to get a reality check in 2029

speculation beyond that event is vanity

Go be jewish somewhere else

Wherever there is need to take back a White country and possibility to kill jewish invaders and its non-white allies sign me the fuck up
More than ready for violence, it's CLEAR that democratic means cannot bring the Nazi future, Nazi parties are banned, violent revolution is the ONLY option to get rid of jews and their multiculturalism

Thoughts

Sounds great, make it happen

Socialism is a Jewish Ideology...

..you known what Idealism is...

don't you

?

Two things anon
number one as I have said before - it takes far fewer people than you think to make some seriously spooky shit go down. 9/11 defined US foreign policy for the better part of two decades and still does today and that was what, a few dozen to a few hundred dudes at most?
Second -

most people are relatively satisfied with their lives, especially in comparison to the rest of the world

where the fuck do you live? have you spoken to people? working class people? Everyone is fucking struggling right now. Even the bloody wealthy internationals are struggling right now. Something's got to give

You are a middle class twat and irrelevant.

loyalty to ideology is ultimately a form of slave morality, or at least the classical ones are (communism, fascism, liberalism). One can hold an ideology, even work with/within one, one can wave its banner, but one should never be truly loyal to ideology. The only things one should be loyal to is one's friends/family/people, and to one's principles.

A British civil war could very quickly become a proxy war between American Chuddies and the (((EU))). American right wingers would quickly start smuggling arms and supplies to the rebels. Russia might help the Britchuds as well.

Betz is fascinating to listen to. Also learning about the Spanish Civil war has bought around many comparisons to today in the UK

Lol I just saw this in the sidebar on Youtube after looking at his longer podcast and the title made me click. Thanks for the heads up, anon. I am a little embarrassed.

slave morality

Fuck off jeet

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oh

so you suggest that 'acting' as if an Ideology was absolute is the same as believing it was absolute?

You don't know who you are. You're only 'acting' as you think you ought to be.

youtu.be/mer6X7nOY_o?si=Tu9NwaJgjlKovW2R

Retarded pole

Do you know what they call a pole with above 70IQ?
A jew.

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Yet you've filled your country with exactly this type of subhuman, they live no better than before, have no future, have those they deem responsible in reach every day and are prepared to throw everything away at the slightest indiscretion.

Thanks, anon.

what are you drinking?

I said what I said anon. I just don't think it's healthy to sell one's soul to something which is inherently inhuman. One must be a free man in mind and spirit. Certainly ideology has pragmatic uses in organising but one should never become subsumed by it or risk losing one's humanity

Not going to happen, at least not unless things get much, much worse.
As long as the majority of people have a roof over their heads, food in the larder, access to basic services (water, electricity, interntet plus things such as police, healthcare, fire service and so-on), and infinite entertainment at their fingertips it just won't happen.
Not just in Britian, but any Euro country. Remember in Wiemar Germany people were taking their wages home in wheelbarrows and still counln't afford a cup of tea nad a biscuit (or whatever the German equivalent is; a stein of beer and a sausage or whatever), and they *still* didn't have a violent uprising, they just voted in a political fringe party.
Remember the Chudda's wisdom.

(taps your shoulder)

(Buddhist Smile)

Nah America would arm you guys. Yall are our friends and we don't want to see you get taken over by shitskins.

They revealed today 1bn a month on migrants. General public is fuming.

roof over their heads

housing crisis

food in the larder

cost of living crisis

water, electricity, internet

skyrocketing utility bills and failing water companies

police

stretched thin to such an extent that petty crime is de facto legal in most of britain now

healthcare

collapsing and has been for two decades

fire service

yeah they're still good

infinite entertainment

perhaps

bring up weimar germany as an example of nothing ever happens

I don't even need to comment on this one

you fantasists need to stop living in a youtube bubble, and enter the real world.

Mate in the real world you have french intelligence and military warning the government about civil war constantly, you have british military analysts warning about civil war, you have australian glowies literally begging the government to fuck off with it's multiculturalism because it's a massive security threat whilst simultaneously pissing and shitting themselves because there are now thousands of white blokes in Australia training in camps in the bush and goose stepping through the street on an almost weekly basis whilst our police and militaries are suffering massive recruitment shortages.

The bread and circuses always run out mate.

source?

Cuppa decaf.

simultaneously pissing and shitting themselves because there are now thousands of white blokes in Australia training in camps in the bush and goose stepping through the street on an almost weekly basis whilst our police and militaries are suffering massive recruitment shortages.

QRD? I know fuck all about aussie politics besides your government being commies that want to give abbos more of a vote than white australians, I did not know that there was such a militia-like movement going on there? please tell me more anon

nothing ever happens

source: weimar germany

uh

Nah America would arm you guys.

so you could watch on TV making wisecracks about redcoats, fat, distracted and nervously glancing at your guns wanting both to put them to use and terrified you can't simply fetishise them any more

Shinzo Abe proved its impossible to disarm people and that a fucking musket is more than enough for an ambush.

Whites with muskets made from pipe will be whites with rifles after one engagement.
All people ever need is the desire to arm themselves and they will get weapons.

I think that those shitty riots filled with toothless, drunken losers were about as close to any kind of civil unrest as we could ever hope for unfortunately. Smashed some migrant hotel windows. Burned some wheely bins. And as pathetic as it was, those were the only men willing to go out onto the streets after little girls were stabbed by a deranged negro. They shut them down instantly, huge prison sentences for those involved. It was the last stand of an already long dead nation, more like the gasses escaping in some kind of putrid swan song.

When the so called experts start talking about Civil War you just know that they're prepping because they will soon (<10 years) introduce political and financial policies that will be disgusting to most of the population.

quit retard dont give them the tax money

probably ya, you're not wrong. I bet a lot of Americans would go over to fight though. The Trump admin wouldn't support the british gov so no legal penalties for doing so.

You are decapitating your government. 99% of war is the posty Word that makes you Gamergate: Genesis of MAGA, and this word assures Saxe-Coburg-Golynch like a little criminal. The cancer has been cut out. Your mighty invasion enemy are walking dead. Clean up spoil of shitty assed salt and fats guerilla information American farty war.

toothless drunken losers

Should they have been clean fade prettyboys?

fuck off with your doomposting anon
god what happened to this place? where's your anger? where's your rage?

Looks like the windows blowing out on ol'niner when the second plane hit south tower

its not really a civil war if its literally all the native brits against the goverment and their brown intruders

There's a poem that I read today that I think is quite apt for these times
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Nah, most native Brits love support the government and point and laugh when white chudcels get beaten by niggers.

I'll let em speak for themselves mate, it starts to delve into the politics five minutes in, but it's well worth giving the whole thing a watch.

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Funnily enough I would want intelligent and healthy people to lead political change in the country, yes.

Tell me where this army of hard line right wing conservative/fashy men are hiding?

This is an active subversion of the country by an occupied government. There is no "civil" war against traitors and foreign combatants.

Well, that's too bad because they never will since all the "intelligent and healthy people" love bbc and think you're an incel who needs to be humiliated and bullied out of society if you have your politics.

Housing crisis

Cost of living crisis

Higher utility bills

Yes, things are more expensive, but no-one is living rough on the streets (more so than the usual druggies, end-stage alcaholoics and mental cases that ever country has had at every point in history, anyway), no-one is tarving to death and people still have indoor plumbing and electricity.
Unless it gets to a point where children are going hungery, we're rationing water (beyond the usual summer hosepipe bans) and people are having to buy home generators to have reliable electricity then people will complain, but that's about it.

Police and healthcare are shit

This has been the case for the last how many decades, now? The police have been the militant arm of the social services for at least as long as I've been alive, but they still do the bare minimum required to keep pulic order (more or less). Don't forget British people are not like Americans, we tend to meekly do as we're told and think nothing of it.

Weimar Germany led to WWII

My point is that even in extreme circumstances it still wasn't the ordinary people who rose up and cast down the government, they just voted for a fringe party. It was the leaders of this party htat eventually overthrew the civilian government and caused all the subsiquent fuss and bother. We don't have a nazi party. Reform aren't going to disolve parlement and install supreme prime-minister for life Farage or anything like that.
If we're really lucky they might slightly reduce the number of immigrants and that's about it.

Tell me where this army of hard line right wing conservative/fashy men are hiding?

Nowhere, they don't exist. The people you consider to be fit to lead your imaginary movement all love niggers and would ostracise you if they found out that you have white nationalist views.

Only proving my point. The people willing to change the state of things are completely incompetent at doing so effectively. Any attempt they make turns more people away from their cause.

read the article or listen to the podcast for full clarity anon but
there is no so-called "army"
this is not a uniformed conflict
there will be no provisional revolutionary government of england
the "army" is in the pubs drinking their life away. the army is in the streets watching their brothers and sisters succumb to heroin and meth whilst foreigners are subsidised by the taxpayer to rob their children
the army is in school noticing the teacher gloss over certain topics and giving strange answers to certain questions
the army is in the fields wondering whether they'll have to sell their land to a farming corporation to afford the property tax
the army is in the hospital watching their daughter get diagnosed with late stage cancer because they'd been waiting a year for the waiting list to thin out
the army is on twitter reading an article about the police pulling out of whole neighbourhoods
the army is a man who's been digging through his savings trying to find enough to keep the electricity on
there is no "army" anon, there's just people.

today you can't relax during daytime in some places in the West, blackouts will be chaotic

During blackouts in America the niggers instantly run to the nearest store and loot it. I expect the same thing to happen here.

Well does each army base really see every other army base as the same army?

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begs the question

What then do would you say is *Human*?

Technically, and therefore, in absolute terms, a Human is a person in possession of a Soul, and you can't possess a Soul unless you believe in God, because only God can imbue a Soul.

White Identity is, de jure according to Divine Law, a vanity. A profane vanity utterly secular in nature and classification. That is to say, it exists only on paper and can be taken as it is given, by another person.

Any glory achieved in this realm of Time and Space is God's.

From Khufu to Alexander through to Napoleon. All were only ever stewards.

None of that amounts to anything. It’s all irrelevant anyway when the war was one of birth rates. The damage is already irreversible. People cry about illegals sneaking in the back door when the front is wide open. Minority country before 2077. The next few generations being born will already be minority. Call it doom posting, it’s the reality.

We are already at war

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You could hold a gun to my head with my hands tied behind my back and I still would refuse to call the situation hopeless. As I said before - fuck off with your doomposting. Struggle and hope no matter what
I would agree with your definition. In this instance I don't speak from a white nationalist angle per se, I speak from a 'british people' angle per se.

I could a British civil war being more like the troubles on steroids or maybe Afghanistan. No fixed battles but lots of car bombings and attacks on important people. Lots of assassination attempts attempts. UK police couldn't enter certain areas without being ambushed.

It's not the "incompetence" of marginalised social pariahs that's the problem though, is it, retard? It's the fact that the "intelligent and healthy" love niggers and hate you. They would rather see their country become brown than see you succeed.

We had the troubles barely 30 years ago. Our ancestor didn't conquer the world by being a majority

Boomers are not "intelligent and healthy"

I can't fucking wait, ACCELERATE.

The next few generations being born will already be minority.

We've always been a minority on the planet.

It’s all irrelevant anyway when the war was one of birth rates.

No, it's a war of borders, of state control.

I'm not talking about boomers, I'm talking about young normalfags.

You’re welcome to live in delusion all you want. It’s not a virtue.

Cringe.

live in delusion

Ironic.

It’s both of those things. I don’t know why you keep repeating that like it’s going to bother me, I’m well aware of how the average person in this nation thinks of men like me.

Most young men aren't libtards, though.

you don't seem to understand what I'm saying anon. Even if what you say is true - which it isn't - what good does accepting it do to us? I refuse to accept it because it is letting evil win. Evil wins when good men stand by and do nothing. Unless you're a fed, once again, fuck off with you're doomposting.

Yes, they are. They all subscribe to left-progressive sex-positive ideology in one form or another.

You'd be looking for a random politician, randomly involved, with random evidence justifying everything all over his dead body, somewhere behind a pub where nobody's caring to look.

And then a random CEO who's involved, and a banker, and so on. Individuals with demonstrable involvement, not masses of people.
And this is why Luigi had the whole NYPD and Mayor at his arraignment

who exactly are you talking about anon? I'm a fucking retard but I am by many definitions part of this country's intellectual and financial """elite""", the group you seem so sure of being monolithically left wing, and yet here I am posting this thread.

They all love women and niggers, I'd say that's pretty bad. What does "conservative" even mean here?

I just don’t think you understand the gravity of the situation. It’s not about acceptance, it’s about understanding. The nation lost at the end of WW2. It’s not our fault. Maybe there is some very tiny semblance of hope but I don’t see the trajectory changing this late in the game. Another large scale war might be the only saving grace, or a natural disaster.

I am pretty sure you are just doomposting for the sake of it now muhammed

You are a delusional out of touch retard.

Sorry I meant Moishe

Another large scale war might be the only saving grace, or a natural disaster.

Do you not see the radically shifting and volatile make up of your nation as the two rolled into one? What are the conditions that wars and natural disasters create?

Minority country before 2077

Canada is already there. Less than 50% European stock.

Things are only going to get worse until there's no one to repair the roads and power lines. Then it doesn't matter how little "will to fight" people have, everyone who doesn't kill will starve or be eaten by brownoids.
Dystopian conditions must by their nature escalate.

You're a homosexual, why would I care what you think is cringe? Scurry off to your /brit/pol thread so you can whine some more about your boyfriend.

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Canada is done. Maybe its the sacrifice that has to be made for other white countries to change course before its too late.

Most of them are politically neutral (not very devoted to the regime). In a civil war, any guy like that would support the rebels since they would promise a better life and a stake in the new society.

I would sooner struggle hopelessly against the encroaching night motivated by a delusion of hope than give in like you have anon

All civilization is cyclical. Europe is going to have to collapse before it can truly fix itself. The good news is it will fix itself. Might take a long time though

90% of the browns on the planet can only live inside this bubble held up by stealing from whites and benefiting from trading with whites.

There's no forever brown planet in the future. Once there are too few whites the browns will all starve and the surviving whites would take over.

Take whites out of the world for ten years, come back, and you could conquer what was left with armies from the fucking 1800s.

the civil war is long over and you are occupied by several standing armies both local and foreign.
you won't do shit
do it again bomber Harris

They put people into a state of real action. They bring back the primal instincts of people. They change the state of play and order arises from the chaos. People are far too fat and placated in modernity. Civilisation affords them a peace that is preferable to the alternative, in their immediate wants and desires.

a long time ago I was told
"things will get worse before they get better
-but they will get better"

never ever lose hope anons

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Countries are going to revert to natural borders (mountains, rivers, and such things) and going to be essentially feudal (tribal alliances, clan confederacies, whatever you want to call it).

Local power is the past and the future. Central power is out.

It should be painfully obvious that Canada should be a cautionary tale to the other Western countries. This happened in less than 55 years, 97% to sub 50%. Ironically, the stats only go up to 2021, and we have been flooded with Indians since then. I am sure it is not a coincidence.

I would love to eat my own words anon, truly I would.

Africa's population in 1900 was 140M. Now it's 1.5B. They still haven't even mastered agriculture, once they're on their own, there will be a famine unlike the world has ever seen.

Exactly. The system that attacks whites cannot feed itself without a huge white population.

All bad ideas are suicidal eventually.

Canada might actually balkanize soon, so it might be the first country to actually break free of ZOG if everything goes well.

There are 100,000 rifle owning citizens in Britain.
You could conquer an entire brown continent with 100,000 white men holding .303 rifles.

GET OUT OF MY THREAD FUCKING GLOWIES

1PBTID

You unironically do not understand how many crazy people who are willing to do the worst things imaginable if given the allowance and chance. Civilians can turn into cold machines very fast, look at Ukraine they have very little to no mercy and commit war crimes daily, those people use to be simple electricians, farmers, shop workers from all walks of life. Never underestimate the enemy, you should be very concerned should your countrymen be turned into enemies by the ruling state as they do underestimate them.

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It takes a catalyst for that to happen. The price of curries going up isn’t enough.

Unlikely, whites are the most cucked race in the world on top of being heavily feminized and pozzed. All recent attempts to restore freedom or security by whites has been shut down HARD and shut down successfully. That little brigade from the grooming gangs? Did nothing. Got jailed in some cases. No change came from it. Just more anti-white propaganda released.

Same in the US. We had to fucking psyop seed one because no white was willing to play bad guy for the Democrats. Canada needed one too - they sent a fed as a Nazi to the trucker thing (who they caught and turned in). Even further back, history shows that white rebellions comes WAY WAY too late. Like after the corruption is past being sustainable too late. Shit just collapses organically 100% of the time, nothing has ever collapsed from white activity.

Blacks are WAY better at shutting shit down. See every amusement park closure they caused. They get full social approval to riot, burn, loot, and murder. White's just can't compete - they are villanized at all points in the system. And destroying then rebuilding a nation (which is what we need) takes a metric fuck ton of work that feminized males will not do.

This is probably the most realistic way to defeat ZOG governments. White areas secede and form new countries. The brownoid areas collapse into anarchy after a few years. Eventually chuddies invade the brown areas and reconquer them.

Russia would jump at the opportunity to flood the country with old Soviet weapons and turn the entire island into one massive Somalia. That's why I always laugh when people say "we are a disarmed country" - so naive

stopped reading after the first sentence

can all doomposters kindly fuck off out of this thread unless they have an argument of substance to make?
and no, "muh white race is cucked" and "you won't do shit" are not arguments of substance
I'm open to debating the possibility of this happening (and I myself am not entirely convinced) but it has to be substantial, not just whiney doomposting. Honestly what the fuck HAPPENED to this board??

youtube.com/watch?v=pN4gOWM_8VU

Minden Angol hitvallása....

Take a lesson Britons. You've got to do it just to do it. Why do we want them out:

As you can see the crime rates....

err the gdp doesn't actually increase..

because their genes are not adapted to... WRONG. We want them out because they're foreign cunts. Simple as.

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This, The Trump administration would also turn a blind eye to Americans helping the rebels. A lot of American AR's would mysteriously turn up in bongistan.

I will watch this when I have a moment anon, I'm outside in the garden and my headphones are connected to my phone at the moment. that said "when the man comes around" instantly tells me this will be good
feel free to elaborate on the state of aussie politics in the meantime

Eventually the power shuts off and the bread and circuses no longer run.

Get out more

russians being russians they would 100% flood weapons to both sides of the conflict, just like they've consistently funded extremist parties on all sides of the spectrum historically, for maximum destabilisation
for reference I would note that I hold russia personally responsible for the hell the west is in just as much as I do our "leaders". Those bastards did this to us, all of it, the communism, the subversion, the disintegration, they had a hand in all of it. I'm happy to say I know for a fact they'll either be a chinese protectorate, or embroiled in a nightmarish civil war, by the end of the next couple decades though, so they'll get what they deserve in due course.

The psyops and generational propaganda has held up very well that this hasn’t happened 5 years ago. A lot of people have internalized the propaganda in the west. I think their move of centralizing the internet and social media 20 years ago was their winning play but that’s unraveling

Checked. Just gonna throw this out there, up to date map of all electrical infrastructure: openinframap.org/#2/26/12

Also: NYC blackout lasted less than 2 days and…

Looting and vandalism were widespread in New York City, hitting 31 different neighborhoods. Possibly the hardest hit were Crown Heights, where 75 stores on a five-block stretch were looted and damaged, and Bushwick, where arson was rampant, with some 25 fires still burning the next morning. At one point, two blocks of Broadway in Brooklyn, which separates Bushwick from Bedford-Stuyvesant, were on fire. Thirty-five blocks of Broadway were destroyed: 134 stores looted, 45 of them also set ablaze. Thieves stole 50 new Pontiacs from a Bronx car dealership. In Brooklyn, youths were seen backing up cars to stores, tying ropes around the stores' grates, and using their cars to pull the grates away, then looting the stores. There were 550 police officers injured in the mayhem, and 4,500 looters were arrested.[3]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_blackout_of_1977

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Imagine what happens when a brownoid DEI hire fucks up and leaves a city without power for a couple weeks.

This post right here is the key to why whites can't do shit - NO racial ingroup bias like every other race has. That shit is literal death sentence in a multicultural world. Whites literally are genetically programmed to die out. The racists win, the non-racists whites lose.

The good news is that any libshit white WILL die out. The only ones that survive the culling of whites will be the hardcore racist ones who act on it - actual white groups that stick together.

on a path to a form of civil war akin to a version of the troubles

i hope to god

I'm hopeful that despite the fact that the government would do anything to fully control the internet, the internet happened quickly and unpredictably enough that it is a sort of pandora's box of communication that cannot be fully shut. There's only so much monitoring of social media you can do before you run out of time

Cope & leave
& what you described is NOT “civil war” it is an uprising against invasion.

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Fascism will rise in Europe by the end of this decade
All migrants will take over all of the countries and make them all an islamic state

the situation hopeless

So long as whites fail to organize, call then fight for a return to patriarchy, it's hopeless. Rebellions are built on hope, but the white rebellion hasn't even fucking started.

If you want my honest truth it won't be the natives who kick off an internal civil war. It'll be between two minority factions and once things get bad enough to start actively affecting the natives daily (mass attacks, collateral damage etc.), once cities turn into warzones that's when the natives will rise up and take to the streets. Historically, we only start a war when we feel fully endangered, we don't chase it. I recommend to read up on King Alfred the Great and his situation, we were beaten back to the last holdout but then our saxon genetics kicked in.

Yeah, once things kick off you'll see the flood of the armed and I can guarantee that the British army least the majority of lower ranks will not fight against its populace but for it. There will be armouries' raided and weapons and bullets lost with no explanation. The brass will panic and start mass interrogating soldiers, this will create even more division as they be sure to punish some, even if they are innocent. They'll create a military split between the actual forces and command, it's already happening as the cracks are beginning to form.

hahahahaha what the fuck

Anyone who thought importing different competing ethnic groups was a good idea is either retarded or malicious. Given that the average Downie potato could see it's a bad idea, that only leaves one other option. Civil war is coming for all of us sooner rather than later.

Soundsawfully ideologicl

I don't think people are anywhere near the level of comfort that you think they are mate.

I think 5 years ago a lot of people were at most a payslip away from financial hardship.

I think today a lot people are now weeks, perhaps months in arrears financially, on the cusp of homelessness, unemployment, serious hunger, that the system has actually collapsed, the debt just hasn't been collected yet, figuratively or literally, and most cunts are just stiff upper lipping the bitter reality.

And I think we can both agree that things are trending down, not up, meaning the conditions that you see as a pre-requisite for a shift are almost a certainty. Your government is getting poorer, your people are getting poorer, the systems and services are already in a rotten state of decay and the one thing that would historically bind them and keep the ship afloat, a homogenous society, is absolutely nowhere to be found.

So hopelessness is real, but by your own words, it carries within it hope.

Maybe there is some very tiny semblance of hope but I don’t see the trajectory changing this late in the game. Another large scale war might be the only saving grace, or a natural disaster.

And I promise you mate, men are already being stirred into a state of real action.

Don't kid yourself, the army absolutely will fire on us.

I always figured the elements of the government actually concerned with national security and not just running typical Mil industrial complex profiteering would be the first to sound the alarm on civil unrest.

his connections in the army and in government share his concerns but are too worried that their careers would be destroyed by any attempts to raise the issue

This is the only reason the west fell cowards

most cunts are just stiff upper lipping the bitter reality.

this is a hugely important thing to understand about the west in general and particularly the anglo world right now
humans are creatures of narrative and appearances, we get swept up in society with keeping up appearances, with remaining proper to the expectations of one's standing and situation, and I know this sounds unique to posh people but it applies to everyone one way or another - you have a mental idea of your 'role' and then you seek to act it out no matter what. Incidentally right now in the west, you have this substantial class of what I would term high status, low income people; people who have degrees, are by and large well educated and 'intellectual', who do 'high status' office jobs like consulting/sales/whatever, but who live in exceedingly expensive cities where the cost of living is such that despite on the surface being posh well-off people going to restaurants and buying nice clothes and doing cocaine, are actually barely surviving off of debts and klarna and will never own a home till the day they die and likely never retire in the current paradigm. The working class is another matter and something worth discussing in another reply but these guys are absolutely fascinating to me. Idk if you know the song "take a walk" by passion pit but there's a few lyrics that talk exactly about this kind of thing

I remind myself that times could be much worse

My wife won't ask me questions
There's not so much to ask
And she'll never flaunt around an empty purse
Once my mother-in-law came just to stay a couple nights
Then decided she would stay the rest of her life
I watch my little children play some board game in the kitchen
And I sit and pray they never feel my strife

bad formatting. the song lyrics for clarity are:

Practice isn't perfect but the market cuts the loss
I remind myself that times could be much worse
My wife won't ask me questions
There's not so much to ask
And she'll never flaunt around an empty purse
Once my mother-in-law came just to stay a couple nights
Then decided she would stay the rest of her life
I watch my little children play some board game in the kitchen
And I sit and pray they never feel my strife

Well, if it does happen, remember you can fit 240 mudslimes in a single 40ft container. You know, to contain them. Forever.

How many of your friends are military? I have many, many are very aware and carefully waiting and watching, lower ranks are basically Anon Babble. Ignore the propaganda you see about making the army sensitive and pacified, behind closed doors it's race jokes and acceleration talk. You're attempting doomposting because you're demoralized, and to spread such demoralization is a face the wall worthy crime. See that you rekindle that flame or do us a favour and lay down and die, because this kind of thought process could get someone killed in an actual conflict.

God forbid an strife comes, but these kinds of people are detrimental to any effort made.

Or, if they're no longer with us, about 315 of them. Just so they aren't cluttering the streets.

What's easy is you can just tip them all out after about two weeks, either in a nice big hole in the ground...

It's a shame I can't paste my usual response to misinformed anti-Norman crap, but the house of Normandy intermarried with the women of the house of Wessex, and then the Tudors, Stuarts, and so on have added completely new blood.
It isn't "the Normans", you weenie, it isn't 1193 with Richard the French-speaking fucking Frog running around. Every king from Henry III onwards has been of English mind.

Where the fuck have the army been for the last 10 years while this country has been getting raped?

Bongs are always talking about how great the countries rail network is. In a civil war situation that could become a liability. All those miles and miles of unguarded track....

...or your local "Waste Energy Generation" plant.
Just a thought I had. I doubt the shitskins could plan such a thing, since they lack any ability to plan at all.

the first serious conversation I had about the idea of a british civil war and a monarchist coup by the army was from a reservist officer cadet working in parliament
the army will be a real dark horse in whatever is to come

Liverpool will kick off first.

op wessex storm most likely

qrd on the liverpool situation?

The army is the only horse that matters in a revolution, historically

Is it a civil war when browns rape police officers in daylight and then next day those very same police officers will kick some whiteys door in for a facebook post the poster might have even regretted and deleted already.

Luigi Mangione

Not a real person, and the person who supposedly died wasn't a real person either. AI generated photos of both.

this is slop for boomers
there is no civil war, just third worldification

The working class is another matter

We don't *have* a working class in this country and haven't for decades; we have a 'sponging off the wellfare' class, a middle class who pay all the taxes whilst the spongers laugh up thier sleeves at them, and an upper class who are all very wealthy, but hide their money away in Swiss bank accounts where the tax man can't get his hands on it.

Stfu Poolackii kike
Europeans are White, Whites are European

mate, the rail network is fucked. for the east coast of england there's basically ONE major railway (and incidentally one major motorway) which even in peacetime constantly goes down and stops all traffic from london all the way to edinburgh and everything in between. in a civil war it would be stupidly easy to mess with

These people would be too busy killing each other over stolen sneakers to fight in a organized army. I doubt you'd have much trouble with them

Pissed off Scousers, probably have more guns than the UK police and army.

There are sparsely populated regions in Britian, they're just in Wales and Scotland and the very North of England.
I thought the wealthy area of London I live in was fine but even now I'm starting to see crime rapidly increase.
It's definitely going to get more chaotic, I doubt order will break down in the civil war sense but I could see violence and crime becoming increasingly normalised in the country. If two tier justice becomes the norm this could lean more towards nation wide unrest.

If you think things are bad enough for action you're highly mistaken, things are and will have to become much, much worse before any action is taken. When people get hungry, when systems begin breaking down, that is when action is taken. At the moment we are in the long transition toward those systems breaking down, it may not be you but it may be your children, you will have to accept that this generation will not fight due to our domestication but a generation surrounded by war and daily ruin will be grown to copy there surroundings. It only takes one generation for a farm pig to become a boar again, it just takes environment. We're animals and the state of animals change through their environment. Two decades ago, not many people carried knives, now because the environment change everyone carries them, like an update to an internal OS.

Bongs are always talking about how great the countries rail network is.

Fucking who!?! In all my forty-one years of life I have never, ever,*ever* heard anyone say anything even remotely complimentary about British titty-fucking Rail!!!
It's a national embarasment and no-one I've ever talked to has been shy about expounding on that topic at great length, especially the poor bastards who have touse it regularly.

Gawd I hope so.

I think the UK is one terrorist attack away from a national crisis. The government seems aware of this, at least on a surface-level, but they are so detached from the "facts on the ground" their response will be patchy, confused, and will likely inflame the situation. Once it becomes apparent that the country is breaking down, the army will start to bifurcate. That's when they flee to the Caymans or whatever.

I see threads about it on here all the time. Either way you get my point. If you want to paralyze the army destroying train tracks is a good way to do it.

The higher ups in the Army are increasingly cucked. Its not like one of those Arab nations were a few dudes run the whole thing and can organise a coup. But I could definitely see solders refusing orders if things kick off.

They're Germans who have married Brits for the last 5 generations you stupid tard.

Bookmark this as well, it's a quickie and watch it first.

files.catbox.moe/37bjb1.mp4

feel free to elaborate on the state of aussie politics in the meantime

I'd say in it's current state it's completely irrelevant, we effectively have a corrupt duopoly with only the most superficial of differences between parties, both are in perfect lockstep with respect to the destruction of Australia, subservience to corporations, replacement of Australians with unlimited immigration, we're effectively at the complete mercy of foreign nations and the interests of Australians aren't even a consideration, merely an inconvenience. Every politician looks at their stint in politics as nothing more than a rung on the corporate ladder and every policy pushed or piece of legislation passed is to simply bank corporate favours they can cash after their stint behind the levers of power. The divide between rural and urban is fucking unreal and our government has a massive hard on to destroy rural areas. As we speak rural firefighters and farmers are protesting in the cities.

We have some genuine nationalist parties attempting to get off the ground, but I suspect you will begin to see German-esque "We must ban these parties for democracy is a danger to our democracy" headlines in the near future. And by doing so the government is going to create the very boogeymen it's fucking terrified of, and fuck mate aussies make mix tapes before they walk into mosques.

I agree, I wouldn't want some shitty Republic replacing our system. The monarchy is the only institution that links us to our past.

I think the UK is one terrorist attack away from a national crisis

this. Southport was one schizo pseudo-immigrant with no clear motive or ideology besides kill whitey and that led to the first and largest expression of collective white anger ever in this country. Anything more especially with how much the zeitgeist has now swung against immigration now, especially this summer (which promises to be hot, hot, hot), could have catastrophic consequences

another understated consequence of the southport riots and the subsequent mass incarcerations is that although yes, many of the arrested will and have been shivved by muslims in prisons, the anti-immigration movement will now have gone officially criminal and underground. you will now have highly radicalised and motivated anti-immigrant individuals forced through the prison system where they can both recruit new allies and learn new lessons on how to fight the government (which criminals are ALWAYS the most informed on). give it a few years for some of those blokes to get released and one of the strongest bases for the kind of violence Betz discusses may end up being organised crime

I don't see the commanding officers of the army holding much sway, the people that do are the officers and NCOs in the field.

The plight of the Brummy

glad to see someone else in this thread who hasn't totally given up on the monarchy
don't get me wrong, charles is disappointing to say the least, and Lizzie, bless her, can only be described in the most favourable lens as having been strongarmed by the politics of her day into allowing britain and the monarchy to become irrevocably diminished in power; but I think that in this new era for britain they could make a great comeback

beacon of freedom and pride

What does this even mean? When you have too much freedom you get degeneracy, unless you mean true freedom in the natural sense, as in freedom from government forcing you to have faggot pride days and forced immigration so you can have the freedom to string up degenerates from lamp posts. But I am extremely skeptical when I hear "freedom" in the liberal sense because it means feminist whoredom and tranny shit everywhere

sort of but not really
the NCOs and soldiers are almost undoubtedly on the same page as most 'white britons' so to speak, but their authority only extends to the people in their immediate surroundings and units, and this goes for lower rank officers too. what you'd really want is for one or multiple regimental commander (usually a colonel or lieutenant colonel) with strong ideological convictions to lend some scale and strategic vision to the situation and actually get stuff going

*regimental commanders

I've been to the UK several times. I can tell that's not happening. You need to understand two things: 1) In absolute terms, the UK is not doing that bad. It has a respectable economy for European standards. 2) The waves of right wing movements you see sweeping all around you are actually small in absolute terms too. It might look like a big thing because political groups can gather crowds, and because that's all you see online, and because Reform gets lots of votes. But most people work, they don't do politics, most people are not online 24/7, and, at least here in Portugal, almost half of the adults don't even vote.

You might see riots at some point, yes. But that's nothing new. I remember some 10 years ago there were blacks burning buses and shit. It subsided. The 1970s in England were way worse. You also had the Troubles, and a war. You're just being click-baited.

Can the MI tap our shit? I read that US busted some nonces through here

This was a good thread. Someone make a part 2

Memeflags

It will be worse because the country will descend into South Africa very quickly as the demography changes rapidly

so basically a "british civil war" is just a smaller-scale version pakistan vs india, but as a gang turf war over who gets first dibs at the pub? do you get in trouble for using naughty words or not?

I think the problem with this thesis is there is a huge variance between regions. Some areas are vastly more poorer than others, more unstable, more primed for unrest. Every county outside of London has a lower GDP per-capita than Alabama. It is a poor country with a rich capital city.

Because the cost of living is terrible there, you combine this with ethnic tension and a narrative of elite overreach and dispossession, that's when you get civil wars. All of these factors are real and are happening right now.

A war fought with what? Cricket bats?

I know a few Brits who already live in Canada. Though they're mostly uni educated middle class. You guys don't have the mining, farm work or construction visas that the Aussies have

I just don't see people destroying the power grid etc...That is what globohomo would do and just blame the right wingers.

traitors like you go first.

going for a wank and then sleep as I have a busy day tomorrow, goodnight frens. thank you for making this a good thread and I hope someone found food for thought here, also aussieman I will be watching your videos first thing tomorrow

I've seen Betz pop quite a few times recently and my concern is that any uprising (or just a couple of retards doing something stupid) will be used as an excuse to clamp down on everybody sharing similar views hard. There's also the possibility his essays are being disseminated in order to provoke just that response.

youtube.com/watch?v=Hb4OxFPC2f8

youtube.com/watch?v=a0865aqUq7w

Look at the stuff the protestors are wearing. They're clearly preparing for the summer.

militarystrategymagazine.com/article/civil-war-comes-to-the-west/

The original article too is worth the read, couple of years back

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You can guarantee (((they))) make sure their mudslime pets will do something.

Idk. Retarded third worlders wouldn’t like 3 days without power, tv, refrigeration, CCTV keeping them in line. They chimp out and then consensus finally forms in the normie sphere that “they not like us” when White areas remain orderly and everywhere that has brown people devolves into mad max. The inevitable raids into White areas, etc. it’s actually exactly what needs to happen to change the public zeitgeist for good

see

Civil war

Cope.

They can try but they will have no Idea the shit storm they will cause.

The irony is that a globalized world means there is no where for them to run. The elites will op for starting world war 3 and running to their bunkers than to be hunted world wide

The police are certainly here. Probably many countries' security services. You shouldn't be typing anything here you wouldn't want read in court. I wouldn't count on VPNs either.

I don't think that guy was a cop though. They would be more sophisticated. At the same time, just like Nigerian Prince scams, they include typos and whatnot to filter out the intelligent.

Look up the case of John Nuttal and Amanda Korody in Canada. This stuff happens.

globalnews.ca/news/9097868/nuttall-and-korody-sue/

So who knows? They have access to everything, but the above case was a Mr.Big sting on a couple drug addicts which involved 250 RCMP (National Police). So who knows? Be careful.

In theory yes, but they wouldn't bother with investing those sorts of resources for the likes of us, if you're dumb enough to post on a connection linked to you, don't buy bulk second hand phones that you toss regularly and say something extra spicy 4chins will hand you over and they'll come and collect you, but you know, whites don't season they posts or something. Everything here is guaranteed to be logged though even if it not actively monitored so make sure to regularly include absolutely ridiculous shit they'll be forced to read out in court or at meetings for a laugh.

Cheers for the effort thread mate, a rarity these days, already pouring over a bunch of the research he cites.

You guys don't have the mining, farm work or construction visas that the Aussies have

Interesting. Thanks, anon. Always like the big picture.

I refuse to set foot in the UK for this reason. I don't want to get arrested at the airport over some 3 year old pol post.

Stupid British government let in way too many immigrants now they cant take care of the native born English, because they broken the system with too many immigrants, I talked with native born English here in the USA and thats what he says, the immigrants are crowding out the natives

I've seen Betz pop quite a few times recently and my concern is that any uprising (or just a couple of retards doing something stupid) will be used as an excuse to clamp down on everybody sharing similar views hard

Seems like it would be very likely. Maybe Betz' articles are simply some form of predictive programming. I don't know if that is the right term so I hope you know what I mean.

If you are involved in this I hope you guys have some sort of system where people know each other from childhood. Even then...

Of course I know it's all just a harmless boys club but they will manufacture bad guys to take down.

globalnews.ca/news/9097868/nuttall-and-korody-sue/

Now behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when they complain about being captives among us. Jerusalem was destroyed more than 1400 years ago and during that time we Christians have been tortured and persecuted by the Jews in all the world. For nearly 300 years (as stated above) we might well complain that during that time they captured and killed the Christians, which is the clear truth. On top of that, we do not know to this day which Devil brought them into our country. We did not fetch them from Jerusalem!

British Rail are doing a great job of paralyzing the rail network without any need for explosives whatsoever.

Not an unwarranted concern.

I've been to Europe before and have never had an issue but Britain is different

You're dogshit at it. Do something you're good at, like blowing your dome out.

There are private companies dedicated to "opinion-shaping" and information collection alike.
The deleted guy was really obvious, wouldn't put it behind them to subcontract human posting to turd world apes like they seem to already be doing with shitjeets.

“I think anybody living in big cities — anybody in, say, London or Birmingham — should leave

Yes, back to fucking Delhi.

I wouldn't fret, they are incredibly switched on guys and hyper aware as to how the government and police operate, they've already weathered several glowie attempts, they are legally very literate, extremely technically proficient, are strictly political and pursuing those aims within the framework of our political system and constraints of the ever evolving and open to interpretation law. They have 20 year plans, they aint looking to go out with a bang, they're looking to end the niggers running around with machetes.

Need yank arms suppliers

Absolutely a possibility. I imagine there are multiple layers to the dragnet.

Bongs are nogunz though. The fuck lil Nigel gonna do?

This has been an interesting thread. It is too bad there aren't more like this, as well as ones dedicated to operational security.

Everything there was to post has been posted, you can look into archives like 4plebs for that kind of material.

youtube.com/watch?v=hLD1UHkNDug

Good to hear, anon. Fare thee well.

Video looks interesting, anon. Thank you. I will have a look at 4plebs for OPSEC stuff. My OPSEC is pretty much 'don't say anything too crazy'. I have heard of the archive but have never really used it.

Get them from Americans like the IRA did.

The only current use of the board is entertainment, eg shitposting. The archives have a wealth of data on all possible topics, accessible as long as you can use the search function properly.
Of course, that too has little importance once one has figured out general societal dynamics, since most have little agency in modifying these mechanisms.
The best for most is to keep phisically active and lead a proactive life in one's own interest, leaving the place better than they found it.
The deus ex machina figure will come.

I rarely have the time to ride out full threads, but I can put together some infographics that I can dump on the subject of shitposting opsec over the next week. Absolute basics, disposable devices (if you're tech savvy you can buy literal mountains of repairable devices for pennies on the dollar), no sims, public wifi, different locations, toss regularly. Keep squeaky clean personal devices.

And to you mate. Separated by sea and soil, but forever bound by blood.

Thx faggot, please try harder

Thank you Pajeet, +2 rupees. India superpower very soon

They completely penetrated academic during the Cold War to destabilise the West. What we're dealing with in terms of captured institutions really shows how successful the Soviets were at foreign subversion. The downstream effects of this have been devastating to the West as a whole.

I rarely have the time to ride out full threads, but I can put together some infographics that I can dump on the subject of shitposting opsec over the next week.

I will keep an eye out, most certainly. I think many would be interested.

Separated by sea and soil, but forever bound by blood

B&H.

Implessive photoshop

87%.

I think Canada and New Zealand are completely lost. Australia too (to an extent). The demographic trends are far beyond being salvageable in those three examples.

The United States is a bit different because you can go from one state being 90% white to 50% white within one fell swoop.

Europe is in a difficult place because the powers that be want to accelerate the ethnic cleansing to finish their project before what we've been discussing happens. This means turning everything up to 11 in the hopes of wiping Europe out within the next ten or so years.

Their aim is to dispossess whites so they can be cowed and discriminated against as retribution for supposed wrongs.

I have long felt that the hate on Canadians on Anon Babble specifically is so Americans and Canadians don't make friends with each other. I for one, appreciate my racial cousins in the north (and the rest of you across the oceans, for that matter). Even the absolutely abhorrent posts have a quality all their own.
I don't know much about either CA or NZ, but I feel Canada is in a bad situation because the immigrants coming over for gibs are getting them from a compromised and fast tracked (for them) health and human services department.

but I feel Canada is in a bad situation because the immigrants coming over for gibs are getting them from a compromised and fast tracked (for them) health and human services department.

You are correct and it is rage inducing.

Unless a branch of the army decides to take over I don't see it happening

targeted individual = a codeword for dedicated individual