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russian assault groups made at least 4 attempts to breach Myropillia (Sumy region), less than 1 km from the Kursk border. All were destroyed—up to 20 troops, FPV crews, and shelters.

Major Zaur Gurtsiev was eliminated by his gay lover in Stavropol. He directed airstrikes during the battle of Mariupol, responsible for countless deaths.

State Duma member Alexey Zhuravlyov explained that Russia has to kiss up to Trump to keep getting its way, which is why Putin is allowing Trump to get away with threats and insults.

Western animated films, toys, video games, and fictional characters like Shrek, are to be banned in russia

russian birthrates have dropped to a 200 year low and rosstat is now banned from collecting census data

Trump calls putin mentally ill

russia has run out of potatoes

Great Britain, France, Germany, and the United States have lifted restrictions on the supply of military equipment to Ukraine — German Chancellor Merz.

Ukraine has gained full control of Torske

The war came to moscow (again)

Ukraine’s military said 10 of its drones hit the Bolkhovsky semiconductor plant in the Oryol region

Former senior aide to Yanukovych Andriy Portnov shot dead in Madrid

russia has effectively run out of tanks

Trump says Russia & Ukraine to start ceasefire negotiations after Putin call

At the Istanbul talks, the sides agreed on a “1000 for 1000” prisoner exchange, Ukraine’s Defense Minister Umerov

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TzD

Thoughts?

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TZD

two topics, I want to be discussed
1) there are leaks, and suspicions that during this year ZAPAD bullshit, russians will try some provocation either in lithuania or latvia, something to turn the focus from Ukraine to Baltics. I don't know how true is that, but defusing this information might be helpful, because it might weaken up the russian propaganda. Apparently it's serious, something of a desperate move.

2) Ukraine is currently working with Germany, despite the fact that Germany turned out to be an untrustworthy ally, who is interested in back to business with Russia. Does anyone exactly what Ukraine wants to work with Germany? And how will it influence the Polish-Ukraine relations? A reminder is that Russia wants to block Polish-Ukraine border, because Poland keeps sending ammunition and armory to Ukraine from all over the world. Why Ukraine is not starting ammunition factories with co-operation with Poland?

Curious about opinions

First for Kongo

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who cares

It's nothign important, the USA population stabilized after the immigration boom of the early 1900s and these immigrnts had a lot of kids which count as native born.
It has nothing to do with scientists.

Waste of good wood

forever

Very pessimistic.
I actually hope TZD will be complete during my lifetime.

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1) The russia might start something in the Baltics to test NATO's resolve. A minor incursion that might yield some border villages is always on the menu, and that would be the biggest threat NATO might have to face in the next couple of years.

2) Germany's industry, technology and economy are miles ahead of Poland's. I haven't read much in the co-op agreement, but won't that mainly be about missiles and artillery shells?

daily reminder /ugh/s a cult. They worship butthurt russian dissidents that were fined imprisoned by putin.

thanks
1) I was wondering if it's possible, because russia literally stole ALL potatotoes from belarus. Alas I underestimated Russian's idiocy. NATO is probably aware of that, I do hope that the reaction will be appropriate in case of provocation.

2) Germany's economy is under stagnation since 2018. Poland is developing, and has a very open market. I am aware of one Ukrainian industrialist who does want to start a factory in Poland as a co-operation, but apparently, Germans are better at bribing the officials. And yes, mostly missiles and artillery shells, but more importantly, it's about the quickness of delivery, because there are plans to develop the system of sending the finished products. I would be wary of Germany, because bundestag wants to restart Nordstream II, and they still believe that it makes sense, and they are not alone. I don't want Ukraine to fall for their obvious larp, alas, they don't have our experience with germans and their promises

Poland is developing, however Germany is capable of producing planes and modern electronics. Poland still is not.

2) Germany's economy is under stagnation since 2018. Poland is developing, and has a very open market

It's still a much smaller and less developed economy than Germany.

Germans are better at bribing the officials

Lol, most truthful comment I've read today.

Germany is not capable of developing anything, because their economy is in the shitter

If Poland and Ukraine co-operated, it would be a better mix. At least Polish companies wouldn't steal Ukrainians know-how, unlike Germany. Also, Germany still wants to make deals with Russia, so they might want to buy Ukrainian companies, to stop them. It happened with Poland in the 90s, when Germany was mass-buying our companies and bankrupting them. This is what going to happen to Ukraine. Of course, Ukraine has a very strong military companies, but, and I will be boring, if it was up to them, the russian invasion would literally last 3 days.

It's very true. You are from Greece and you can yourself tell the testimony as to what happened when Greece had problems with bankruptcy. I'm not that good at english to explain it in words, but you know what I mean. Germany is okay as a peaceful neighbor, but they are very dangerous, when they want to be an economic hegemony

Apparently it's serious, something of a desperate move.

Seems like it's more of an attempt to drag belacucks into the war but i think it depends on China which has also step up around Taiwan . But them planing things like that is natural in some way , command simply has to make such plans as more of a job rather than some long term thing but they could do something in order to actually put nukes on the table but again depends on what China is doing .

2)

Well i think politicaly there is still some tension between poles and ukes specialy about the agri stuff . Thou the co operation with Poland may be more on the down low , thou it could be some grand startegy thing .

This is my wild bet, but I think, china will do nothing for now. They are very good at posturing, but when the shit hits the fan, they just screech at the cloud. The last 7 months opened my eyes at the idiocy and impotency of the global politicians, and I mean all politicians from each country

and about the tensions, in the past month, the exhumation of wołyń victims has started, so I guess that this topic is finally ending, so there is no "gotcha" to use by russian propaganda

Airbus and siemens makes the planes and electronics respectivelly. Numerous German car companies makes the advanced motors.

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Cooperation will be hard, the difference in value of labour and materials between poland and ukraine is staggering as you know.

and Solaris makes better buses. We also have better AI scientists, alas recently they moved to USA because of our internal politics. But that's something else to discuss, but not here or now. If there is a will, then it can be done. As a lithuanian, I would hope that my politicians get our shit together, and in case of shit happening will move the forces to help Lithuania, because currently, we are under attack from belarussian propaganda.

Currently, we are fighting belarussian spies, because surprise surprise, they are everywhere. This is something your counter-agency should look closer. It's not russia who spreads disinfo, it's Belarussian KGB. Just sayin'

This is my wild bet, but I think, china will do nothing for now.

I dont especially with the US in it's current state . Maybe they'll wait to see if the political turmoil in the US will amout to something and try to stir the fire then pounce on Taiwan . Thou from mind mind they weigh the stability of having pozzia as a colony with semi resurgent norks and the high risk high reward of going for Taiwan and further helping pozzia allong with dragging luka in for possible huge gains . No idea how the whole middle east goes into all this doe . Doubt Saudies who let this chaos ruin their simple but profitable life .
That's a good step things have happend in the past but they should not write the future .

eh... not really. It's all about the good will, but it will require Poland focusing on national interest, instead of pleasing EU. On monday we will know. I really hope that we will have a good leader, because that way, we can start some actual co-operation. And no, I don't mean pro-Von der Leyen leader, because they are blocking any idea that would make Europe stronger military

Doubt Saudies who

will*

China believes in sun tzu - defeat the enemy without shooting the bullet. Therefore I believe that they will not do anything, because unlike russia, they don't want to reveal themselves to be the niggers that they are, but instead, they want to present themselves as "reasonable" and as "businesmen". Remember that "face" for a chink is everything. They might want to, but they rather buy Taiwan, than invade it directly. Trump is a retard, but he did right thing to kick the hornet nest, because it will show the alliances, and who is supporting who. Literally everything can happen, because the situation is TOO dynamic.

We also have better AI scientists,

By what metric?

by the metric that they currently work in US pentagon. And they changed the job, because currently we have a political shitshow, but I'd rather not disclose on that

to elaborate, they worked for american companies developing weapons, they moved back to Poland out of patriotism, we have polticial problems, they moved back. Hopefully, we will calm down political problems in the next weeks

One thing that Ukrainians should be aware of, is that if you are part of EU, if you are TOO decisive, it is generally frowned upon, as you are supposed to be more in line with France and Germany. I'm not talking about retards like Orband and Hungary, who are openly traitors. But if you open an alternative to the big two, EU doesn't like it, and they prefer if you shut up, and just conform to the others. This is also why Italy desperately tries to be a voice with Meloni, and why Portugal and Spain doesn't play any role in EU, despite being important countries

They might want to, but they rather buy Taiwan, than invade it directly

I dont i do think they would rather attack since it will let em do a nice mil and civ sector purge , and show em as some powerfull but "peacefull" country some shit as pozzia . But mosty i think they need the war for fix their own society but my thoughts only China from my memerie and limited knowlidge does not have a history of invading other countries to keep it's own proles in check .

I did talk with people in Taiwan and Hong Kong, and they are not against China, Hong Kong disagrees with China about their idea of freedom of speech, but the woman I talked to said that without China, Hong Kong would be in problem. I disagreed with her. She asked me, if I believe in freedom of speech that USA offers. I told her, that it's not about believing in other countries, it's about having your own principles. She did not reply. These people themselves are confused as to what they really want, or what they are about to do. I don't quite understand asians, because they pretend to be like us, but sometimes I feel like they hate us, and just want to invade us. USA certainly shouldn't lose its grip on Taiwan, because if they let them loose, it's quite possible that Taiwan will unite with China on their own. I don't want to sound like some conspiracy retard, but please, talk with these people on your own, and you will know what I mean. They don't understand our values, because you have to explain to them, that freedom of speech, that individualism is the most precious gift from God.

I probably didn't answer your post, but I really wanted to share my experience.

Ok, so there are smart people that emigrated from Poland, but is there an actual AI industry in Poland?
I am not shitting on Poland, I am just saying, Germany has established companies making tangible and competitive product.

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oh and I also told her "asians never get openly happy, never get openly angry, never get openly sad. how am I supposed to trust you guys"

that also went without answer

reminder that your god can take kyiv in two weeks if he wants.

It's one actual SBU, 2 diaspora cowards, and a few literal paid trannys.

there is no AI industry in Poland. Currently. Depending on the elections, it can either continue not existing, or it can be restarted. I do not want you to involve in our current politics, but we have currently a serious political shitstorm. If you see Nawrocki as the winner, then AI study will be restarted. If other guy, then we are Romania 2.0

FABIO FRONT UPDATE

On the night of May 31, from the local time 19:30 of May 30, the Russian Federation attacked Ukraine by mean of a composite aerial threat:

107 drones of various types, launched from the Russian regions of Millerovo, Shatalovo, Kursk and Primorsko-Akhtarsk and from Chauda, in the occupied Crimea;

2 jet attack UAVs of yet unspecified type, launched from the region of Belgorod;

2 S-300 missiles, launched from theregion of Kursk;

3 X-59/69 missiles, launched from the airspace of region of Belgorod.

The main vectors of the air strike were the Ukrainian regions of Kharkiv, Sumy and Donetsk.
The air attack was detected, manitored and repelled by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
13 Ukrainian locations were hit.

As of the local time 08:30 of today, 69 UAVs of various types and 3 X-59/69 missiles were neutralized: 42 drones were shot down by fire weapons,
30 were lost/suppressed by electronic warfare.

The urban districts Shevchenkivskyi and Kievskyi of Kharkiv were damaged by Russian UAV strikes: there were fires at the impact sites, a person was injured in the Kievskyi district.
During the night UAVs also flew into a hotel in Rylsk, where Russian military personnel were located.
In Rylsk, drones attacked also adjacent residential buildings: 7 seven people were injured.
Early in the morning, the territory of the Yuzhnaya agricultural company was attacked, and a fire also started there.

After the night strike on Lgov, region of Kursk, a large fire is observed at the local railway station.
The fire is recorded by NASA satellites: it probably means burning ammunition or fuel.
In the village of Artakovo, in the district of Lgov, two buildings and a garage caught fire due to a drone attack.
5 people were injured in the night attack: they have a mine-explosive injury of moderate severity.
The Ukrainian GUR took responsibility of the attack of yesterday in Vladivostok: they attacked and damaged a Russian military unit.

Northern sector:

mandatory evacuation has been expanded in the region of Sumy.
Authorities are asking residents of 11 settlements to urgently evacuate to safe places.

Eastern sector:

during the shelling of the Nikopol district, region of the Dnipro, 2 civilians were injured and received medical assistance.
The Russians attacked using artillery and FPV drones, and a munition was also dropped from a drone: a multi-story building, 3 private houses, a garage, a gas pipeline, outbuildings and abandoned buildings were also damaged.
In the district of Novopavlovsk, the Russians consolidated position in the western part of Troitskoye and are attacking Orekhovo from two directions.
In the district of Konstantinivka, on the right flank, Russian troops are attacking the area of the settlement of Dachnoye and the fortified area south of the village of Dyleyevka.
A Russian unit has taken up positions in the southern part of the fortification and is attempting to consolidate its position in the forest plantation between the fortified area and the pond.
Further advance will allow the Russians to form a bridgehead and apply pressure on Belaya Gora, Aleksandro-Shultino and Pleshcheyevka.
The capture of Pleshcheyevka would cut off the eastern logistics of the area near the Kleban-Bykskoye reservoir.

Southern sector:

a girl was killed and a boy was injured by a Russian attack on the frontline village of Polohivsk, in the region of Zaporizhzhia, which the Russians targeted with KABs.
One house was destroyed and several more houses, cars and outbuildings were damaged.
At night, as a result of Russian shelling of Kherson, a man was killed, while yesterday in the region of Kherson 3 people were killed and 10 more were injured.

Estimated Russian losses as of May 31, 2025:

personnel: 987,330 (+1,250)
tanks: 10,867 (+2)
armoured vehicles: 22,652 (+5)

artillery systems: 28,475 (+54)

MLRS: 1,400 (+2)
air defence systems: 1,173 (+1)
aircraft: 372
helicopters: 336
UAVs: 38,215 (+145)
cruise missiles: 3,295
ships/boats: 28
submarines: 1
vehicles: 50,198 (+109)
special equipment: 3,902

There were 191 combat engagements in the past 24 hours:
47 in the district of Pokrovsk,
34 attacks in the region of Kursk and
29 in the district of Lyman.
25 attacks were repelled in the area of Novopavlovsk.

Peace-talks:

both US senators Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal, who promote in US Congress a bill to apply new sanctions to Russia were yesterday in Kyiv, where they met President Zelensky and other authorities.
This is more important than any so far useless “talk with Russia about truce and peace”.
By the way, a new attempt is planned June 2 in Istanbul.
As usual and as expected, Russia will do its best to derail it.

GREGGPOSTING

05/31/2025 update.

As Fabio's front reporting showed, the ruzzians have brought forward artillery in an attempt to try the Soviet-era doctrine once again.
This they should not have done, as the numbers in the ruzzian loss table show.
Lost artillery systems are double since yesterday.

For Vadim's unit, they have left the ruins of Yelyzavetivka (the video where one of their groups arrives at a ruined house, which I published a few days ago, is just inside the village) and have gone on the defensive in wind breaks that are just outside the village.
They have better defensive capabilities there than inside the ruins.

Since we have received so much material and donations, we will add a destination, namely SKY's unit north of Kupyansk.
They are located in the contact line so we have taken extra security measures to reduce the risk of being exposed to a drone attack.
A larger car, an ambulance and an engine and gearbox for a military truck will be delivered to SKY.
In addition, they will have some other tactical products.

On the corruption side, the organization Stop Corruption is now journalists and lawyers out hunting for the corrupt head of the commercial court in the Chernivtsi region, Oleh Proskurniak.
It is time to really clean up this swamp now and the continuation will follow.

Since we have two well-known journalists with us to not only document the trip, but also the status of the various fronts that we visit, their updates will also be reported here on my FB page.
They will be my guest writers.
Since the fronts are so different from the fronts that existed 3 months ago, it is important that we have experienced and competent journalists who can convey the real events and analyze them correctly.
It is a pity that there were no Nordic journalists who followed, but one can hope that they copy paste the articles that will be in France 24.

What is happening at home right now is that my first roses have started to bloom just in time for departure.
The strawberries have ripened and the cherries will arrive in a few days.
We have also received the first new potatoes on our plate.
Although the spring has not been the best, the fruit harvest looks good.
The pear trees have blossomed and the first maples are starting to appear.

SLAVA UKRAINE

and to add insult to injury. The AI that taxpayers were paying to develop was sold out to USA in 2024, after different government took over and the scientists (who ironically enough, voted for government change), were being chased out by politics. In a way, that's a very cuck behavior and I hate it, which is probably why I post so much currently

russia has effectively run out of tanks

Fill me in on this, they obviously still have many in service for example but how many? I was expecting them to use the end of whatever fully running units they had left attempting an misguided offensive of some shape my mapkin calculation say they have about 3000 left, motsly battlefield salvage and cannabalised hulks with another percentage without a working engine or gun that can't traverse (that get turned into the mobile sheds) and then butween T80s kept near Moscow and accomulated refurbishments over the last two years and repairs etc maybe 500-700 uits that are mostly functionnal (gun traverses, comms, autoloader works, engine works, has optics and taretting of some sort etc). Do you mean that the reserve depots are empty? Why do you say this now? I ask because I don;t expect them to EVER empty of the last e,g 500 hulks which will propbably never move again, the onnes with no turrets etc.

I think its more true to say that they are in a crisis on artillery tubes and completely dependent on begging north korea for anything they can buy...a ticking trap since Russias soverign wealth fund won't last .much longer

The AI that taxpayers were paying to develop was sold out to USA in 2024

What the fuck are you on about, POland did not have any special AI of any value. Machine learning and neural nets are developed and researched in every western nation since the 90s and Poland does not have a particularly notable IT sector and nothing much in semiconductiors dispite Polands many great strengths and the intelligence of its peoples. Its not Ireland and knee deep in tech for 30 years

it's not that they physically ran off their last tank but they don't have the reserve to throw them endlessly anymore without compromising their ability to defend their own territory. Not until they produce more that is.

Merz backs Nord Stream ban to prevent US and Russia restarting gas link

I really hope that Merz won't cuck out. I kinda like him. He visitied Poland during our historical ceremonies. However, he is kinda sleazy. And remember, that he might be under pressure of general public opinion. who does want Nordstream II back. Alas, time will tell. From the polish standpoint. Merz is a good german chancelor. However, he hasn't done anything serious so far.

Yes we did, we participated in development Chat GPT. All for free. You never see the actual people who DO things, you see teams. These people wanted to go back to their nation of origin, and our current government chased them out, and they are back developing american companies. It's sad,but it's true

That's a measure of how much time Russia wasted saturating the internet with bullshit and how much Indains worship the kremlin and take money to spam RT style crap.

I don;t get your point there is no great mystery in how chatgpt or LLMs work and they have been in developement since the 90s. They came to eye catching functionnality because memory and processig power facilitated running them Not just that but AI in more advanced forms has been around since at least the late 90s. If you know you know. No disprespect to Poland intended.

AI is google search for stupid people.

ahtually, people been working on prono-neural networks or proto neutral networks since middle of 20th century.

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Of course you don't, you let England eat your potatoes. You forgot how to speak Eire, and you are not capable of getting North Ireland back. There are things that go beyond the border, it's called dignity. I am dealing with brits, and I have to deal with windsor framework, because you faggots are not capable of unite yourself into one country. Other people get it, you don't. What a surprise

Its just a guy who worked in californai for a few tech companies. Your brain would shit itself if you knew how many Irish people have worked in tech corporationns and on AI including chatgpt. It does not make it Irish. I guess hyper nationalism is in fashion in Poland now. It used be the British who tried to take credit for everything.

zapidorozhia status?

+ Massive waste of space (typical for ukraine supporters).

+ No one reads this shit

+ Gregg is fake and gay

This guy returned to poland, and my country failed him. It's very bad that it happened.

I really hope that Merz won't cuck out.

I doubt it, his foreign policy is solid. The only way I see Germany buying any gas from Russia is (1) as condition for a peace settlement which Ukraine agrees with and (2) only if there's a quota so that our suppliers remain diversified - removing Russian leverage, de-risking. But even that is doubtful.

However, he is kinda sleazy.

Yes, but that's mostly a concern for domestic policy. I don't trust him at all there.

And remember, that he might be under pressure of general public opinion. who does want Nordstream II back.

No, general public doesn't want that. Most are either against it or uninformed and don't care either way. The ones who want it are companies, the industries. And they always want what maximizes profit.

True but widespread computer models and training algos and lexical analysis really came in in the 90s
You see that's where I syop being polite inn real life, head butt you break your fucking nose and walk away. Dickhead. You don't have any dignity, your people come to my nation to work as servents. Go fuck yourself..

I have a lot of hopes for Merz. If he makes deal with Ukraine, he better not alienate Poland. So far, he was okay with us, but he should remember that alienating us, will do him harm. I do hope that we can finally co-operate without backstabbing each other with shady deals. The moment our politicians realize that there is more profit with working openly together than having an upper hand is the moment, where Europe is stronger than USA. Alas, you can say I'm a dreamer. I only hope I'm not the only one.

About general public, you do realize that they screech about the price of gas? Poland screeches about the price of electricity, but gas is okay. Kinda funny.

Combating manifestations of racism, xenophobia, aggressive nationalism & neo-Nazism, countering attempts to rewrite history & distort #WWII outcomes are among Russia’s priorities on the human rights track.
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I will, because you will never understand what I was talking about, and I don't care. Other people do, and that's enough for me

reddit spacing

Every. Single. Fucking. Time

rich for you to say given your post is entirely spammy and useless while devoid of any relevant information or update
vatniggers like you should be killed

To be fair, Lithuania also should be weary of Belarus (if you aren't already). It's not russia, it was belarus all this time

If he makes deal with Ukraine, he better not alienate Poland.

You mean the deal for weapons development? Why would that alienate Poland? It's between us and Ukraine. I'm sure Ukraine won't complain if you cooperate with them too, hell you already are doing that. Just of the top of my head, BREN rifles are hugely popular with their troops.

About general public, you do realize that they screech about the price of gas?

Huh? That was the case when Russia stopped supply, but after that the price has gone down again. For regular people it's not a problem at all -- but our chemical industry is suffering. Of course they complain, I'd be worried if they didn't. They can complain and our government should take their problems seriously. But in the end they're not the ones deciding, luckily.

I do hope that we can finally co-operate without backstabbing each other with shady deals.

I hope that too. Especially now that the US has gone batshit crazy we need to stick together more than ever if we want Europe to make its own destiny. And we need to, because anyone else would be a way worse outcome. We have values. And, of course, we're neighbors, we have a lot in common culturally. But I understand it's difficult with the kind of historic crimes Germany has done against your people.

Why would Ukraine want to work with Poland ? They have been their worst ally by far and they have nothing to offer them

Of course it were us, polack. Finally you've figured it out. Not the brightest member of NATO you are.

Why would Ukraine want to work with Poland ? They have been their worst ally by far and they have nothing to offer them

You have this backwards. Its ukraine that was a poor "ally" and fucked over Poland.

It is Poland who should have nothing to do with Ukraine.

It should also be added that ukraine supporters are traitors to their own people, regardless of where they are from.

Your government is not always cool with our government. I don't have problem with you doing good things for our region, but I have a reasonable doubt that your government wants to do some shady deal that will benefit Germany.

you have also people like this You are very good at propaganda, you are much stronger than us. We are honest and we are straightforward. The things that you say, are not the things that you want to do.

If you are honest, show me the poll, where people say that they miss russian gas, or that they shoulda had this nordstream II. I am polish, therefore, I don't trust you. I am not your enemy, and I do not want you to be. But I swear to god, if you fuck up Ukraine, use it and abuse it, Poland will remember it, and we will act accordingly.

If you have any brain, and dignity, you should leave this region to us, so we could deal with it. We were doing fine for 1000 years, while you were busy finding your idendity. When Austria was invaded by muslims, we helped. Your high esteem will be your downfall

Did the neighbor that I fucked recently, was your agent? Don't answer, I know she was, because no normal person would fuck me. You bastard

REMINDER

Prior to the invasion russia held 43963km2 of Ukraine in the LGDNTPR+ republics and crimea occupied back in 2014
At the end of the kharkiv and kherson liberation by ukraine circa mid november 2022 russia held approximate 64655km2 of newly conquered territories.
Today, last of may 2025 russia holds circa 68809km2

That's an increase of ~4154 km2 in 928 days or 4.47km2 per day over a front that is about 545km long.
Total advancement if spread out along the front that is not the dnipro river that is 7km along the whole front in 928 days or about 8 meters per day.

Yes and no. It depends, on what you want to do with it. Poland wants total zigger death. Germany wants back to Nordstream II. People with flags will say different things, but the policy will be done outside of this thread. I want Poland to bring some actual peace to these lands. Germany however, needs to restart its impotent economy. The goals are different

Freshest Strelkovposting coming up soon.

It's too late, she's already planted starch-based nanochips into your pp. Yes, we grow potatoes to harvest starch, then we make super advanced nanochips from it. We use them to spy on entire world. The techonology is so advanced, no one is able to detect it. This is why I am telling you about it so easily, because no one will ever believe you.

The International Red Cross reports that by April of this year, relatives of 400,000 missing Ukrainians had contacted the organization. Against the backdrop of this news, many of our media outlets began to write about Ukraine's staggering losses. But is this really the case?

Igor Strelkov on the International Red Cross statistics about 400,000 missing Ukrainian military personnel

Any data on losses coming from any organisation, not obtained through intelligence from enemy headquarters, is a priori doubtful. Therefore, I cannot and will not consider the data on Ukraine's losses obtained from some Red Cross as a serious argument in any way.
I do not have my own viewpoint on the number of Ukraine's losses at this moment, but as far as I understand, we are talking about approximately 400,000-500,000 killed and wounded, put out of action permanently or temporarily.
Another 400,000 missing persons do not fit into this figure. Perhaps, it's that a certain number of the Donbas population, including those not on Ukrainian territory, and a significant number of refugees who fled to Europe, were simply recorded as missing in order to loudly shout about Russian aggression, genocide, and everything else. In my opinion, this is the most logical explanation for such staggering numbers of those missing in action at the front.
400,000 missing persons — this is complete nonsense. Considering that the number of Ukrainian prisoners is measured, at best, in several thousands (maybe fifteen thousand, I don't know, but no more than that) — where did the figure 400,000 come from? This is most likely a purely propagandistic statement, eagerly picked up by our mass media to convince our Russian population that Ukraine is on its last legs. Meanwhile, this is completely untrue.

Germany however, needs to restart its impotent economy.

How? They closed nuclear plants like fools I don't see where they're going to get the energy from. Maybe buying from France lol.

That's more than 1 more advanced meter, the frontline is flooded with zigger blood. WW1 tier.

I really hope that someday we will get rid of russians. Of all our neighbors, you were being treated the worst hand, and yet, you were never cunts towards us. I wish lithuanians or czechs learned something from you. I don't like Lithuania anyway (sorry), but I do like Belarus. Hopefully, someday, we can be free, and someday, we can be bros together without russia existing

How the hell am I supposed to know? They will probably do something crazy or desperate. We will pay the price for their ideas, as usual. And of course, Germany will shift the blame to Poland, that we provoked them. Or something like that. But yes, they will attempt fixing their economy. And we will all suffer because of that

Just Russia Things:

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"We don't know what's wrong with his liver": mother of political prisoner Yegor Balazeykin told about delays in her son's tests in the colony
According to Tatyana Balazeykina, all of her son's medication support now depends exclusively on packages from home. He takes medications according to a regimen prescribed back in the summer of 2024, when he was last taken from the pre-trial detention center to St. Mary Magdalene Hospital. But what is happening with his condition now is unknown.
"We cannot get any examination results after he left the pre-trial detention center — neither from the Arkhangelsk medical facility nor from Metallostroy — he gave blood there. We still can't get the results of these tests," Balazeykina told ASTRA.
On October 9, 2024, in Arkhangelsk, a gastroenterologist, in absentia, based only on documents, changed Yegor's treatment plan, increasing the dosage of a drug for an unknown reason. The reasons for this decision remain unclear — the doctor did not personally communicate with the patient. Yegor himself was never informed of these changes: he continues to take drugs according to the old scheme prescribed in June.

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Belarusians are considered to be the most timid of east slavs correct?

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"We would just like to get the conclusion of this gastroenterologist and understand on what basis he changed the treatment. If the decision was erroneous — we will demand another examination and an independent opinion," Balazeykina told ASTRA.
Currently, the family has no documents about Yegor's illness. Even the results of the fibroscan (elastometry), which previously showed second-degree fibrosis, remain inaccessible.
"Even if the lawyer now, by mid-June, manages to obtain the tests that were taken in March and April, they are already uninformative. Three months have passed — and everything in the body could have changed," Balazeykina told ASTRA.
"Yesterday, the lawyer, in response to his request where he had already asked additional questions, received exactly the same answer word for word as I did in March. Only at the bottom was it added that from May 23 to 27, Yegor was ill with an acute respiratory infection (ORZ) and was receiving outpatient treatment. That's all, there are no other differences there," she added.

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Fucking context losing neural network.

You need to get beyond your victim complex because nobody in Germany is blaming anything on Poland.

They are, their agency not so. Imagine IRA but amped up to 11. Never filtered, never replaced, still at job

But I swear to god, if you fuck up Ukraine, use it and abuse it, Poland will remember it, and we will act accordingly.

Holy fuck the utter audacity and arrogance should be studied.
The way Poland handled this whole war should serve as an example of what not to do.
Imagine a country more reliant on Russia than us (you imported 4 times as much from russia relative to gdp than us btw), that screeches at us to change, but refuses to do it themselves. Now imagine that same country is blackmailing Ukraine will they are fighting Russia (remember you closing the border and stopping arms deliveries ?) and hindering others from helping Ukraine (remember the polish lies of Germany not allowing others to send tanks ?). Poland is an utter embarrassment and I hope Merz will treat them harscher. You should not be allowed to simply walk away like nothing happens and I hope to god Ukraine will be able to hold you accountable after the war is over. Absolutely disgusting

It's not victim complex, it's learning from your mistakes. Fuck me once, shame on you. Fuck me twice, shame on me

Teachers have started being paid for anti-abortion lessons using a manual from an Orthodox foundation.

Russian educators have begun to receive payment for conducting anti-abortion classes in schools, colleges, and universities. For each lesson using the "Your Life Before Birth" manual, an Orthodox foundation offers 1,500 rubles, "Verstka" has learned.
The methodology was developed by the St. Nicholas the Wonderworker Charitable Foundation for the Protection of Family, Motherhood, and Childhood. In May, it held an online seminar for teachers from various regions, presenting a lesson plan and video materials. Initially, 1,000 rubles were offered per lesson, later increasing to 1,500.
"The lecture does not contain the word 'abortion'; everything fits into the basic biology course. But all the foundations are laid for a person to draw the right conclusions," said foundation employee Ekaterina Shuklina at the seminar.
According to "Verstka," such lessons have already been conducted in schools and colleges in the Moscow, Leningrad, Saratov, Krasnoyarsk, and Kemerovo regions, the Stavropol and Krasnodar krais, Mordovia, as well as in the territory of annexed Crimea. Classes have also been held in a juvenile correctional facility.
To receive payment, a teacher must register as self-employed, record a video with fragments of the lesson, and submit questionnaires filled out by students.

Are you saying there used to a a "terrorist" nationalist belarusian group? I've never heard of one, can you tell me more?

Fuck me thrice... UwU :3

Yes, let's fund russian tanks. Shroeder is russian patsy. Merkel brings immigrants to EU. Scholz does nothing. And somehow it's our audacity. You fucks failed your people, you failed your own economy, you failed your own grand plans, and yet, everything would go according to plan if not for these pesky poles

Get a grip on yourselves. You are not the center of the world, and you should start co-operating with other countries (not only Poland). Start with Greece. And don't act like sanctimonious cunts. You are your own creators of misery

I remember your government criticizing mine heavily for not allowing the transfer of Leo tanks to Ukraine, but then it turned out there never was an export request and those Leo tanks talked about needed to be refurbished and weren't in any status to be sent anyway. So if you say you're all straightforward and honest -- that's a bit too simple. There are problems, yes, but it's not all on Germany. Your (previous - PiS) government was very much not cool with ours and not beneath lying and being divisive to fuck with us.
For cooperation to work there needs to be an effort from both sides to meet eye-to-eye.

Belarussians were peaceful actually. They never wanted to fight other people. It's complicated. But what I meant is. Imagine a hostile group that is not controlled, they can do whatever they want, nobody really cares about them, because they are not treated serious, and they are starting serious shit.

Polandians still believe that the French were telling Ukraine to just give up in February 2022. They kind of live in an alternative reality, you need to understand that.

Could you imagine being a coward ukrainian hiding in a safe country while the real men of his homeland put it all on the line? Could you fathom the supreme piece of shit that would take? I would kill myself if i was such a coward

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What do you not understand ? Germany should not work with Poland after what you did to Ukraine, you simply don’t deserve it. Germany should work with Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and let you sort yourself out. Don’t bother, poles don’t know how to take accountability, they blame others and end up doing nothing

One of the coolest news was that volkswagen was eager to start building tanks. They literally were about to do that. And what happened afterwards? Nothing. What happened to Reichsmetal? entschuldigung, Rheinmetall of course. We were never against you, what we want you to be is to be responsible about europe. you want to conquer europe so hard, and then, all you care about is west germany, because even east germany is not happy about you and they want to join v4

You sound black.

Their peacefulness has cost them. Compare the usage of ukrainian language vs the usage of belarusian, it's hard to imagine them getting out from under russia's grip.

did you play banner saga with your wife ?

Great job Ivan, thanks for creating dissention. The problem is that germans will believe you more than me. Good job

To be honest, it's hard to tell what is their agenda. Sometimes I wonder if they just want to fuck shit up for lolz

being honorable is nigger behavior

Lmao. You sound like a coward draftdodger

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Lmao this retard starts the thread questioning why Ukraine wants to work with Germany and saying we are bad allies and now after being called out he calls me Ivan creating dissention. Absolutely braindead behavior

The language issue is silly. Nobody in Ireland thinks they're English just because they speak English and almost no Irish at all.

Germans were thoroughly defeated after WW2, no more fucking will occur in fact they're too kind and destroying themselves by importing shitskins.

What's that boer junkie got to do with anything?

You never cared about Europe, you want every person to hate each other. You are an enemy

What russians during war was a crime against humanity. How quickly we forget about their atrocities

I think the belarusians have been dealt a very bad hand historically and have been devastated by many wars, they're trying not to do anything or provoke anybody which is why I don't blame them for not helping ukraine.

You never cared about Europe, you want every person to hate each other. You are an enemy

That is absolutely rich coming from a pole of all people. I hope Ukraine wins this war in such a overwhelming fashion, that they are strong enough to go after you once they are done with Russia, you absolutely vile traitor

True that, too much focus is put on nazi atrocities (which did happen) and too little on soviet ones.

pyбикoн пopaзъeбaл cepгeю флeшy кyчy тoчeк FPV-paдиoмoнитopингa

oй вeй, бpaтья из ХPЮ, чтo cлyчилocь ? Face ID oтвaлилcя ?

Never change, Rusniggers:

Murderer who sexually assaulted his own 14-year-old daughter was offered a chance to go to war to be freed from responsibility.

As ASTRA discovered, Vitaly Naletov, a local resident previously convicted of murder, was detained in Ulan-Ude. A criminal case was opened against the man for violent acts of a sexual nature (Part 4 of Article 132 of the RF Criminal Code). According to investigators, the man molested his own 14-year-old daughter, who was not yet 14 at the time of the assault.
After his detention, security forces offered the abuser and murderer [a chance] to sign a contract with the RF Ministry of Defense and go to war in Ukraine. Naletov refused.

True, and they were never cunts about it. They never whined about it. Maybe this is their way of revenge. But then again, they are not the kind of people who would have a revenge. They do have a very dangerous secret service. They never changed them, these people were schooling younger cadres, they are very qualified and powerful. It's a difficult situation

Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) Syrskyi stated that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF) have intensified their activities in the Zaporizhzhia direction.

"The Defense Forces continue to hold back the enemy, inflicting significant losses on them. The enemy has concentrated its main efforts in the Pokrovsk, Toretsk, Lyman, and Novopavlivka directions, as well as in the border areas of the Sumy region with the RF. They have significantly intensified their activity in the Zaporizhzhia direction, where they are conducting active offensive operations," Syrskyi said at a summary meeting on the results of the AFU's activities in May.
Separately, Syrskyi added that the operation in the Kursk direction is ongoing.
He also noted that the RF Armed Forces have an advantage in the use of fiber-optic drones, which significantly complicates the fight.

Therefore, we should work together about remembrance. This is something that should unite our politicians (I Hope)

diddling kids is based and trad

dont worry man, lukashenko will change that, 150k pakis will help to raise population of belarussia and bring it back to the world stage

One of the coolest news was that volkswagen was eager to start building tanks. They literally were about to do that.

No idea where you read that, but they can't by definition be about to do that. There's plans to retool some of their factories to do that - but obviously retooling factories takes years. It's a long effort, so I'm not sure when they'd have said "they're about to do that".

What happened to Reichsmetal? entschuldigung, Rheinmetall of course.

I dunno what you're referring to here. They've refurbished some hardware for Ukraine afaik?

you want to conquer europe so hard

Quite the opposite. The 'peace dividend' and current pacifism have fucked the Bundeswehr so much we struggle to field enough to oppose Russia - let alone conquer anything. And that didn't come from nowhere. Militarism is absolutely not the current Zeitgeist of Germany. I believe we actually need to be more comfortable with wielding military power again. Because we can't be a good ally otherwise.

and then, all you care about is west germany

It's a bit more complex than that. There are problems, but a lot of it is also the consequences of being post-soviet. You Poles should understand what kind of wounds that leaves. Soviets ripped out all industry and destroyed the country so hard even now it's struggling. It's fucked up. We can't solve that by just pumping money into it.

We were never against you, what we want you to be is to be responsible about europe

My point is that Poland has done irresponsible things as well. So we need to stop bickering and counting each others misdeeds and try to work together, be open. Poland in this way needs to take responsibility too. Because it's both of us; Germany isn't some kind of hegemon going alone. Germany needs Poland as much as Poland needs Germany.

that russian is dead and that brightens my day

thats litteraly an ork from lotr

An FPV drone cannot evaporate you without your consent!

Just say "go away, kakol", if you do not wish to leave this mortal coil.

you say "sol' voda" repeatedly and it will fly away

Why do you bother talking to that guy ? His is clearly living in an alternate reality, in which he can simply ignore how they betrayed Ukraine and just blame Germany

tfw Shutterstock troll has better teeth

but muh soviets were liberators, they built facotries, schools, hospitols all without asking anyting back in return! RSFSR the russian socialist republic withim the ussr gave out all its resources to support you ungreatful bastards, maybe we should return! and take back ehat we seflessly gave to you!

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No, not yet. I'm kind of 100 hours into Fallout 4 to even suggest it for her to consider. I'm playing off games in my Steam catalogue I didn't play for VOSIM LET since 2014, because I didn't even have a home PC for a good chunk of it.

Germanophobia is a staple of PiS foreign policy. Ironically, for how strongly anti-russian PiS is, this Germanophobia is a direct offshot of the communist propaganda (we need Soviet troops in Poland, because otherwise Germany will invade us again).
I don't need to mention that those people have never been to Germany or talked to a German person because they'd instantly realise how cartoonishly wrong they are about everything.

felloff 4

if you enjoy it, thats great

i lost all interest in playing games desu, now only game dev is interesting.

You should play Vampire the Masqurade Bloodlines if you never played it, it is a jank but it is pure gem, also women love that game, so you can recommend it to your wife.

Germany is remilitarizing. As a Pole, you should be very concerned. The sacrifices your descendants made during the Great Patriotic War would have been a waste if Germany is allowed to rearm.

Because I want to show to him that not everything is black and white.

I agree PiS has done nothing but deliberately harm our relations. It's sad.

imagine calling your party piss

Great Patriotic War

zigga you are not even trying

thanks for being a russian asset

No idea where you read that, but they can't by definition be about to do that

It was a news in the Poland. Either you are not informed, or someone is playing with us. Or better, don't talk with me, because that other "german" said that.

Rheinsmetall had massive financial loses? Do you not care about your national companies?

Quite the opposite. The 'peace dividend' and current pacifism have fucked the Bundeswehr so much we struggle to field enough to oppose Russia - let alone conquer anything. And that didn't come from nowhere. Militarism is absolutely not the current Zeitgeist of Germany. I believe we actually need to be more comfortable with wielding military power again. Because we can't be a good ally otherwise.

The problem is, I'm not sure if you know if what you want to be. You are in massive dissarray. You shouldn't believe your own media, you have to be more informed, because obviously, you are not aware at what is happening.

I talked with people from East Germany, they hate you. They used a very long german word describing what you did to them in the 90s, but they are angry. Invest in east germany, and be united.

We have problems. A lot of them is because we are being played. But if we want to work together (and I do), is to play fair, TO-GE-THER.

Can we do it Germany? You are an okay neighbor, no matter what other people say. Just don't get tempted by Russia, and Europa will be MASSIVE

the Great Patriotic War

ffs when will shills learn that no one outside Russia calls it like that

I read gregposts every time. Also anarchist flag news, and also the czech guy who also posts news. Even if I don't usually reply. I prefer lurking most of the time.

I'm not. They should be militarized, and we have different deals. Keep in mind that it was always russia who supported Germany doing stupid things. There are no paragraphs to explain it, but cut russian influence, and Germany is suddenaly a reliable partner. And to add insult to injury. Russia is literally Moscow, it was never anything more than that. They claimed lands outside of moscow to make themselves big, but in reality, it's a small, pathetic country that should be nuked

It's a bit counter-intuitive. Coming off FO:NV, I'm not enjoying it. But I'm masochistic enough to see the game through with all the DLCs.

I call it "Starfield 0.5" - because they really just slapped some incremental upgrades on FO4 iteration of the engine, some shitty writing and made a Fallout in space. It was also the first game from Bethesda I played. I only YouTube watched it before.

I think I'm having a Bethesda fatigue. But maybe I'll switch to Elder Scrolls, to finally and fundamentally hate Beth with all my heart.

Thank you for the suggestion.

Why do you still bother ? You have shown yourself to be a Russian disinformation shill or worse: a pole unable to reconcile with the fact his country is a worse ally to Ukraine than Germany is. You simply refuse to live in reality and it’s sad to see

But if we want to work together (and I do)

Neither the polish government or the polish people have shown that they want to work together. You especially have shown in this very thread that you don’t deserve our help

Rheinsmetall had massive financial loses

Huh?

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Yeah, the moment I read that I realized he's arguing in bad faith or is completely misinformed.

If Russia is small, what do we call Pooland, the country that ceases to exist every 100 years. God made it so that Russia is literally the last remaining sovereign european empire on Earth, not Poland, how amusing.

TOTAL RUSSNIGGER DEATH

Quite some chutzpah of you to call it the "great patriotic war" when speaking to a Polish man of all people.
Go fuck yourself, vatnikike.
The "Ukrops" are nazi-collaborationists?
Well let's not forget the biggest nazi-collaborationists of them all.
The soviet empire.
Vatniggers that fight for this pile of dead miserable shit will keep getting murdered and the world will be better for it.

Read his first comment in this thread and you can see that he lives in an alternate reality

Invest in east germany

Dude we have pumped billions of dollars into east germany since the reunification and still send them gibs today. It's not our fault that they can't get their shit together despite all the help they get.

HATE
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HATE

Vatniggers that fight for this pile of dead miserable shit will keep getting murdered and the world will be better for it.

Case in point, picrel lmao.

t.

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the best part about tes is lore, it is great
and the best game for lore is morrowind

i love morrowind because how different it is from your typical lotr inspired fantasy rpg, it is totaly alien fantasy world

and tes was all like that, but well lotr happened

here is for example a page from the art of hammerfell

no problems i liked playing vidya in the past, got hooked multiple times on digital crack like gtaV driving and etc. burned out, but i played a lot of great games

I'd die together with Poles in the trenches a hundred times over before I shake the hand of a R*ssian.

It was a news in the Poland. Either you are not informed, or someone is playing with us.

That's why I asked. Because I wanna find out the source. Of course Volkswagen needs to setup a production line for tanks before they can produce tanks....

Rheinsmetall had massive financial loses? Do you not care about your national companies?

What? Rheinmetall is up huge. See pic.

I talked with people from East Germany, they hate you. They used a very long german word describing what you did to them in the 90s, but they are angry. Invest in east germany, and be united.

There's no easy solution to fix East Germany. There need to be jobs, for that there need to be employers, for that there needs to be infrastructure, and so on. It can be done, but it's not as simple as "invest". We might have a large economy, but we don't have the funds to just pull out a 'Marshall Plan' for East Germany. Especially with the debt brake as it currently exists. But hey, our rearmament might be just what's needed to revitalize some of their industry. I do hope so.

We have problems. A lot of them is because we are being played. But if we want to work together (and I do), is to play fair, TO-GE-THER.

That's my point too. That's why I highlighted the lies of your previous government regarding Leo transfers. Because I want you to understand that together comes from both sides. Not just by pointing the finger at Germany and demand we create that togetherness by just our own efforts. Because we can't.

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God made it so that Russia is literally the last remaining sovereign european empire on Earth, not Poland, how amusing.

the fuck does that even mean

Rheinmetal has the lowest outcome when compared to other companies dealing with armory. BUT OF COURSE, I AM ARGUING IN BAD FAITH. Rheinmetal is at the bottom

Keep going russian shill, speak german to make yourself believable I know you can do it

did jewkraine get fucked up today? the /uhg/ trannies seem to be seething harder than usual

the fuck does that even mean

It means that jenkem is kicking in.

False. The largest Nazi collaborators were the Americans. Many large companies in America invested in Germany, including Ford, Coca-Cola, IBM, JP Morgan, DOW Chemical, and General Electric. All these companies enabled the Nazi war machine.

Invest in east germany, and be united

Look, we had to pay an extra tax - EVERYONE in West Germany had to pay a special tax OUT OF THER OWN SALARY that was TRANSFERRED to East Germany for 30 years THIRTY FUCKING YEARS.
If they are still sucking russian cock and showing no signs of civilization, we might as well burn the place sown and breed their women with WEST German children.

You're not getting any reparations, Tyrese.

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pidoranny lost

what a dumb ass

the fuck does that mean and why are you hiding your flag?

Don’t bother Ivan, you overplayed your hand. Accusing others of being Russian won’t help you now

kalmar union

lol

donkeh

Rheinmetal is not a competition in regards to producing weapons. It used to be in the top 10, and now, where is it? If you think it's huge, show me the place of rheinmetall compared to other companies in regards to warfare.

Eastern Germany was angry, because according to them, you bankrupted their companies to move the economy to the west. There was a german word describing that, and I am googling for that, so you will have a better understanding at what I mean.

I am glad that we agree about the problems. We can help each other with the problems, but that requires co-operation. German companies want to dominate, we need German government to co-operate.

I will now google that word because I don't remember it.

NATOsisters.. we're losing to THAT?!

pidoranny lost

To be honest I didn't know that. But why did you moved everything to the west - that's their argument - that instead of keeping things as it is, everything was moved to the west.

All the donkeposting made me realize that someone, someday, will commission etheross to depict donkey treatment by pozzians.

but I'm not NATO, I'm NAFO

HAHHAHA
Your cope is delicious.
The soviet empire is trash and was nothing but a source of misery
Meanwhile America managed to turn Germany into a democracy that no longer invades neighbors
And after all that russia is still a shithole with a rootless clique of leaders desperately clinging to power and thus being unable to have neighboring countries prosper.
Vatniggers that fight for this pile of dead miserable shit will keep getting murdered and the world will be better for it.

Yes, millions of Americans and Europeans have died to donkeys and rusty AKs. Billions of dollars in so-called "stealth" planes and ships gone. The vaunted Tomahawk proven useless in the might of the BUK AA system.

It used to be in the top 10

Are you high ? It never was you disgusting liar. Rheinmetall has increased their production AND profits (in regards to 2014). You simply have no idea what you are talking about, because you aren’t concerned about reality. Filthy Russian disinformation shill

The only european country that is free enough to disobey Washington and do as they please with their own destiny, is that better? And you know that, because even that little bitch you call a president has complained about France being a vassal (let alone the rest of europe). Can France expand its Power free of american influence? You also know the answer to this.

Russia is free enough to interfere with you little american golems and that makes me very pleased.

donkey is banned in russia now, or at least will be soon

No single stealth plane or tomahawk cruise missile was used in Ukraine, despite salacious and entertaining rumors to the contrary that I wish were true.
Maybe we'll be seeing some half-decent German cruise missiles sometime soon though.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_the_German_reunification
It's somewhere there. I should have saved it. That german guy told me to save it, so I should remember. How do I find this word? How do I find a word for economical change after german reunification? How do I google that?

The gyst was that Western Germany wanted to focus economy on the west, and therefore were buying out the eastern companies, and then selling them out. Literally the same thing happened in Poland as well. There is a word for that, but I'm too retarded to find it. Maybe someone smart will help me, or not

But like I said, I'm not an enemy of German nation. I just don't like the direction you take. It will not bring peace in this region, and it certainly won't bring stability as well

my favourite part about chlenin is that he hated russians and thought of them as cattle retards, he wanted to use them as a way to take over europe

and that's what you chose to do with your own destiny. The mighty defender of the white christian race.

why it's always YOU who attack me? suspicious, because you keep trying to attack me using the same tactics. Every other person asks the proper questions, and has a right to disbelieve me. You on the other hand, always come up with the solution. All I need to know about you is to click your ID, and I can see the same message being repeated ad nauseam.

Why is not invading something to be proud of, America invades even harder and you are right here glazing their dicks. Have some self-steem you big fucking baby, aim to be like america militarily not be in conformity with your inferiority

Almost a million ziggers have perished in the 3-day special military operation to denazify kїev

I find it really hard to believe that any real Ukrainian believes Russia is losing, when they see firsthand that Russia is very much winning.

Some random basement dweller from Boston or London who believes everything they see on CNN or BBC? Sure. But not ukies.

cant uavs be considered stealth ?
because of their low radar profile ?

Let's not kid ourselves here. This is and always has been America's war; it's just that Ukrainians are the ones doing the fighting.

Honestly that's all pozzian "leaders" when they figure out russian subhumanity

I broke the bot. The Russian doesn’t understand that some people won’t just let him lie and get away with it. I will always call out your lies and disinformation and there is nothing you can do about it

6 gorillion zigger

lmao imagine beliving that in 2025

I don't know. In the first days of war, Russia was flying fighter jets over Kyiv and they were mysteriously swatted by the "Ghost of Kyiv", supposedly an experienced, elite Ukrainian pilot in an old Mig 29.
At the same time a squadron of F-22 stealth fighters was stationed in Poland.

True. America is now on the brink of collapse, having lost 100 Bradleys, 30 Abrams, 3 HIMARS and a Patriot launcher.

Yawn what a boring response. You had France for a thousand and so years only for it now to be ordained like a cow by a toddler country less than half a millenia old. No self respect can survive this, I know. Gotta double down on being a sissy

When will you call out American lies and disinformation? One million Iraqis died in GWOT alone.

under no condition - don't listen to each other

he is russian shill, said the russian shill

people can see through you. I might be flawed, but I am transparent. You, keep saying the same thing over and over again. Literally the same word, you will reply, like a bot, calling me the same word

concession accepted

The only european country that is free enough to disobey Washington and do as they please with their own destiny, is that better?

Last I checked their "destiny" made them shit the bed and lose their empire twice in one century and turned them into a has-been clawing at any neighbor that wasn't smart enough to realize they couldn't be trusted with anything and get the fuck away from them.

to be fair, it was a good business. Also for us

Really shows what a shitheap the soviet empire was
For what it's worth hitler viewed Germans similarly in spite of the window dressing beyond and around the core of what they both did.

Listen here you disingenuous monkey kremlin shill:
I pointed that pearl-clutching rusnigger faggot towards the fact that the soviet empire was a shitheap.
All he had to offer was "whataboot America"
It's not like I see America as perfect - extremely far from it in fact and they are responsible for multiple atrocities and a lot of needless death and instability especially in the middle east with their pathetic support of israel.
The point though remains, that he brings this up not due to a genuine desire to discuss the merits and misfortunes that America brought but to distract from the almost completely one-sided misery that the soviet empire and russia brings the world.
Germany is strategically incapable due to pathetic leadership and democratic decline + incapacity due to oligarchy.
If this gets addressed and we start taxing the rich again like we did in the 50s up until about the mid 70s things will get better again.
That's all just distraction tactics though.
Like a sapient monkey words are not for communicating for shills like him but just something to be used in an attempt to sabotage and trick an enemy.
Death to the soviet empire and this pathetic attempt at necromancy.
Vatniggers that fight for this pile of dead miserable shit will keep getting murdered and the world will be better for it.

He is still trying lmao. It’s ok, I just want you to know, no matter how many times you decide to lie and twist reality, I will always try to call you out. The truth will prevail and you will lose

He didn't say that, he said almost 1 million. Do they teach you to read in Poland B?

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I struggle to see if we'll see anything better than that , the vatnigger that got captured after being fed in some IFV's wreck is a close second

Rheinmetal is not a competition in regards to producing weapons. It used to be in the top 10, and now, where is it?

According to 2022 data it's the 5th largest in Europe. It definitely is competitive. I expect them to only have grown thanks due to this unfortunate war.

Eastern Germany was angry, because according to them, you bankrupted their companies to move the economy to the west. There was a german word describing that, and I am googling for that, so you will have a better understanding at what I mean.

Not sure about the specific word, but yes, I'm aware. The economy wasn't moved to West Germany, it's more that East German industry was acquired by West German companies. It could've been handled better, but by far the largest problem wasn't that. The largest problem was that East Germany simply wasn't competitive. Their industry, under communism, was hollowed out shit. So of course there would be a gap between the East and the West. That just comes from the legacy of communism and needed and still needs giant investment in infrastructure and industry to bridge.

German companies want to dominate, we need German government to co-operate.

In what way specifically is our government not cooperating? We just stationed a brigade long-term in Lithuania for example. We put massive amounts of money into defense (>1 trillion euros).

like a clockwork, it's not even funny. I was assigned a bot.

Germany can be capable every single time. Your problem is purely psychological. I don't know if I should tell you this, but you could easily get over this. Should I go, or should I stop here?

Again, Poland is NOT an enemy of Germany. Dear Germanybro, we can work together. Seriously, everyone can be happy. Everyone

Don't get triggered by assholes

And that's fucking pathetic and evil, yes.
It is widely discussed and few people deny it.
Unlike the aggressive cancer upon humanity that is kremlinoid russia that you try to distract away from.
Death to the soviet empire.
Death to this pathetic attempt at necromancy.
It and russia+kremlin+russians have already killed tens of thousands of innocent Ukrainians in a war propped up on disinformation, lies and fake news and based on imperial mania and the bucket-crab regional power that "russia" is.
The political structure is a dead giveaway, people are repulsed and disgusted by it.
Vatniggers that fight for this pile of dead miserable shit will keep getting murdered and the world will be better for it.

You write like a retard, learn how to punctuate your texts you anxious mess. I could hear your anus clenching all the way from here

The bot has been broken. He starts off the thread calling Germany a bad ally to Ukraine and undermining it at every turn and now he says he is not an enemy. I respect the grift but next time don’t be so obvious

The Soviets relied on Western food aid for its entire existence, I don't think being able to choose your own destiny matters much when you're living off the goodwill of others

According to 2022 data it's the 5th largest in Europe. It definitely is competitive. I expect them to only have grown thanks due to this unfortunate war.

GOOD. YOU BETTER KEEP IT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WE WILL NOT PRODUCE AMMO

Not sure about the specific word, but yes, I'm aware. The economy wasn't moved to West Germany, it's more that East German industry was acquired by West German companies. It could've been handled better, but by far the largest problem wasn't that. The largest problem was that East Germany simply wasn't competitive. Their industry, under communism, was hollowed out shit. So of course there would be a gap between the East and the West. That just comes from the legacy of communism and needed and still needs giant investment in infrastructure and industry to bridge.

To make you feel better, same thing happened in Poland, we got over it. I believe that you can too. It's just that you need to work on it. Maybe not as government, but more as people, youtubers. I don't know. Call me retarded, but I have a feeling that the real unity has yet to happen. About their economy - Poland despite being communist shit, we produced plenty of Metal bands. Easy Germany on the other hand, hardly produced anything. I can elaborate, but there's no point.

We just stationed a brigade long-term in Lithuania for example

To be fair, we should do trainings together for crisis options. We literally had a discussion about a possible provocation from russia in this thread in Lithuania - it would be cool if Germany and Poland - worked Together

The Keyword - Together

What're you doing thinking about my anus, Raul?

holy shit, I just realized that I was feeding the troll. I'm sorry for that. You're not even human

I think that's tinfoil shit, you know how much of a cuck biden was.
The more likely explanation is that they just got got after rusniggers failed to destroy the Ukrainian airforce in the first few hours because there was in fact some organization afoot.
But not one that would involve American fighters, they were probably there just in case vatniggers tried something towards Poland/Europe/NATO.
There was a good video essay on the glowie shit America did, it was impressive but it didn't involve fighter wings

Keep up the projection, it’s amusing

Can i get a refund

America's only merit is that it is richer, so now we all should bow down to their project and speak their tongue, consume their culture and keep their fuckton of bases on our soil. I just summarized what the average natoid wants the world to think, you're welcome. You should learn to summarize your ill conceived german thoughts as well, next time

yes, ask him

Why? Niggers are being killed

The West relied and continues to rely on Russian resources, technology, and labor.

They're now relying on...potatoes from Belarus.

Well yeah but you know that's not what is the target of insinuation with such statements
The kind of Drones you're talking about fly tens of Km and carry at most Kilograms of explosives.
The cessna thingmabobs are well detectable on radar.
Maybe a few funsies with Aussie cardboard drones though kek.
Actual stealth aircraft fly many hundreds or even over a thousand Km and drop bombs and missiles and bring different options that are so far removed from these drones they are an entirely separated world of capabilites and weapon.

To make you feel better, same thing happened in Poland, we got over it.

I know, I'm glad you did! I think one problem is just inherent to reunification -- imagine Germany telling the EU East Germany needs more funds to bring into line with other EU countries. It obviously would be a bad joke; but it means that there aren't the same instruments to help East Germany than there are to help whole countries.

Call me retarded, but I have a feeling that the real unity has yet to happen.

That's true, and Russia is happy to exploit that. It's how the AfD rose to prominence.

Poland despite being communist shit, we produced plenty of Metal bands. Easy Germany on the other hand, hardly produced anything. I can elaborate, but there's no point.

Well yeah, "If Germany falls, Europe falls.". Germany was a front-line country, it would be foolish for the Soviets to place industry there. And after the war, the first things they did is rip out all industrial machinery and send it to Moscow, the bastards.

To be fair, we should do trainings together for crisis options.

We should have an EU army for exactly these things. NATO already has joint training, but you can't trust the yanks after all.

You couldn't tell a german from a human even on his best day. By the way it's funny seeing two nafoids up in arms against each other. I hope this altercation leads to homicide and hopefully a full scale war

labor

no

technology

no, all russian technology is stolen Western tech

resources

sadly, yes, but not for long.

varaghnia incident real or not ?

Decommunication continues
Amendment to ban communist symbols in Czechia
All will be derussified

It’s funny you think the „pole“ is nafo, when he is so obviously a Russian disinformation shill

russia has at best 30 years of oil, one of the heads of the geological institue in russia said

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Lmao based

I am all for honest and truly mutual cooperation with Poland.
There's also a lot of that already, it's just not constantly talked about in the news due to what I see as journalistic malpractice to be honest.
I'm also aware of the cancerous nature of industry lobbyism, this isn't news to me and applies also to ventures wherein e.g. Japan has the misfortune of "cooperating" with America.

isnt it weird that part of denazification, is return of soviet topological names and statues of chlenin ?

Y'know it's funny how Russia fully appropriating the USSR's identity is by far the most damning thing to the USSR's reputation in Europe.

I respect Germany, and we will fight together. Never believe people who say that Poland hates Germany. No, we hate Russia. We believe that we can work together and we can live together without war. The next years will be difficult because we have different politicians, and we will have recession, and I will not lie to you, our politicians will say many things. But people will never be against people. We will have to survive that. I am all for EU army, we will have it one day. But you know what is the problem - try to convince all the countries to go for it - surprisingly enough - Polands understand it. But Spain or Portugal don't get it. They never seen the horrors of Russia. But we will prevail - together - against all odds. And let it be a message for saturday - maybe naive, but true and straight from the heart

Cheers, anon, and never stop fighting

Thank you anon, I believe in better future.

The fact that this is what you reply to my post shows that you don't actually care about the topic at hand and are just here to vomit forth sloganeering snippets that emerge from your ill-conceived global south thoughts.
I'm sorry I wasted my time on you.

isnt it weird that part of denazification, is return of soviet topological names and statues of chlenin ?

The Soviet Union was the first time in decades when the world powers treated Russia as a peer so I can't fully blame them for wewuzzing.

using nafo unironically

way to show your true color. nobody sane would say "nafo", not even ironically. next time, when you want us to hate each other and saw discord, don't use "nafo", be smarter

We have a lot of WORK to do together.
Normal people understand it, we need to convince our politiicans that such work is necessary. I will work on my part, please work on your part, and we will make it. Together. Finally. Without hatred

did russia lose or win the war bros

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Don’t worry, unlike you I actually want Europe to work together. You only think about Poland and no one else

well, where is it?

GOOOD NIGHT THE RUSNIGGERLAND

In the Bryansk region, a bridge collapsed onto a passenger train.
According to local Telegram channels, the bridge collapsed onto a passenger train traveling on the Moscow - Klimovo route. The train derailed.
According to sources from the Telegram channel Baza, the bridge was blown up, and about 8 people were injured. There is no official version of what happened yet.

good cope 10/10 humor me more. moscow will be nuked. and you will have no place to live, because you are an asshole

I feel the same too. Here's something that gave me hope:

52% of Europeans tend to trust the EU, the highest result since 2007.

europa.eu/eurobarometer/surveys/detail/3372
In the face of adversity, Europeans clearly want to stand together. And whether it's Russia's military or US trade war -- if we're together, we're strong enough to weather any storm.

Do you though?

Yes

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If you want Europe to work together why did you write in your first reply in this thread that Germany is a bad ally to Ukraine and followed that by asking how it affects Poland ? Please explain how I am wrong in calling you out and saying you only care about Poland ?

Don't worry, I will and am.
If not for any other reason that because Poles are already part of my community and frens.

I think you two might have gotten off on the wrong foot.
For what it's worth the thing we should be worrying about most in my opinion is if our governments and the EU will effectively oppose technofeudalism and oligarchy because without that isolationist pseudo-patriots and grifters will keep rising and cooperation will fall by the wayside as the populace becomes more miserable and hopeless for the future.

According to media reports, four people died as a result of the bridge collapse. All the deceased were train passengers. At least 44 people were injured.

Presumably, unknown individuals planted four explosive devices on the railway track.
This information is not confirmed.

kekaroo

Also, don't believe what the media will tell about our election results. We are pro-EU, it's just that we are chosing between a soft leader, and tough leader. I will vote for tough leader, but he will NOT be against EU, he will just want to create army immediately. But he will not be against germany. Just so you know, because your media might tell you otherwise. It's not about Germany at all. It's about starting our own warfare economy to help Ukraine and fight against Russia

still arguing with chatgpt

NGMI

I have little intention in honoring your dead souless german eyes with the typing done by my glorious fingers anymore. Cheers

No fuck that guy, he doesn’t care about Europe. He only likes to spread his lies and cares about Poland. The less people like him in the world the better it is

fuck that's dire

but polchuds told me that bridge can collapse only when dei involved ?

No, we are okay, we weren't arguing, I was arguing with the pink guy. This guy is okay.

I am against feudalism, but the problem is your media. Your media will screech like there is no tomorrow soon. Don't worry, and do not get afraid. We have your back.

hawks without beaks

if ukraine can't even hold the land they have with 200b/year...

Shame it wasn't going 200Km/h
youtube.com/watch?v=ca2kOgIZYlc
Though probably this retarded war wouldn't have started had russia developed a taste and desire for such things and thus a desire to keep that going.
At this point: also death to FDP and CDU for privatizing our rail services which predictably lead not to a better product but cost-cutting and profiteering which directly correlates to events like this.

what is the name of national alcoholic guy ?
he streams everyday with his slim friend, he himself is super fat, he also wanted to become a head of his village, so he particapated in local elections, his slogan was i live here, lol

Z-niggers already talk about Ukrainian terror attack.

DIVERSIONS KYIV REGIME COCK-A-DOODLE-DOO!

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that can be a great game, with hidden progress checks like in PT

Don't worry, Russia will collapse just a day sooner

I check on /uhg/ from time to time
every day 100k pidors die telegram confirms etc etc

they don't really look all that worried
youtube.com/watch?v=yM5c5CFpdIA

I have been hearing that shit every month for 3 years. I used to watch Peter Zeihan every day.
Is it possible they got their shit together?

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Literally has nothing to do with Ukraine

Yeah, Kurwabros are real.
Or at least the 5 people I know fwiw.

It might be true that he's being a little pithy and sloganistic.
It is also true that there is some degree of bullshit with e.g. German companies trying to secure their stakes at the expense of others in cooperation projects.
But I think that's more a corpo-cunts thing with a bit of industry lobbyism than actual German ill-will.
That's where the critical rhetorical difference sits I think.
It's important to correct what one perceives as misperceptions and it's hard to do so in an effective way when this general is often filled with dishonest shills but this one might just be a little jingoistic.
Which is not that crazy if a little disadvantageous to actually understanding what drives undesirable international, intra-European problems.

Oh I know don’t worry, I just hope Merz will be harscher towards other countries and not pussy out like Scholz. We let countries like Poland get away with everything, no wonder we ended up where we are right now. It’s time that things changed

What is "my" media doing?
Are the public broadcasters talking shit about Poland?
Last I checked they are doing the opposite:
youtube.com/watch?v=axbYB_6kpKU
It's an example where the host talks about common failures of Germany with respect to proper interaction and knowing of the neighbor that is Poland.
For better or worse in some regards - albeit less pronounced - Germany is somewhat the America of Europe.
Of course it's still comedy so there's obviously a bit of exaggeration.
He even tries to speak Polish inbetween a little, you can give us a rating of how good/bad the comedian is doing it kek.

youtube.com/@MarkTakacs-u1w

this guy's channel is pretty good.
let me tell you that when you have the media saying Russia ran out of tanks for 3 straight years and they are going to collapse and yet the war is still going on it makes you look for answers.
The guy is ex-hungarian armed forces not pidor but he gives objective analysis of everything going on which is way better than the NAFO horseshit that makes everyone roll their eyes
gonna watch some videos now

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They do look like this from time to time

See, now you're doing it.
The only bullshit that Poland did was helping Hungary with the autocratic bullshit and blocking important anti-corruption regulations with them in a 2-votes veto in the EU deliberations.
But if I remember correctly this brojobbing between Poland/Hungary is over (fico is the new cocksucker now) so I don't know what you mean?

Nobody in Germany cares about Poland unless forced to by Poles themselves.
Do you remember how your country made Erika Steinbach important somehow?

I know people give Britbongs shit for having bad teeth, but at least they have teeth.

I can bake

I'll have to leave for now. Thank you for the discussion. Please do not doubt in my country. We are not enemies, we wish you no harm. Don't believe the russian lies. Thank you for discussion and apologies that I had to end it like this

Thank you very much and respect

There's comparatively little in the way of trying to portray Poland as enemy here and barely anyone but shizonazis (that will patriotically simp for russia instead of Germany lmao) view it that way.
In general it's all about trashing the EU and boosting peaceniks and artificial dissatisfaction after narrativizing comparatively minor problems.
Sleep well.

How could you not know what I’m talking about ? Poland constantly lies about Germany and undermines Europe whenever possible. Remember them stopping arms deliveries to Ukraine and closing their border ? Remember them lying about Germany not allowing other to send tanks ? Remember them trying to blame the dying fish in the Oder on us (that was 2022 btw), after we noticed that and asked them (it was a result of them dumping trash in it btw)? After PIS Germany should not allow Poland to simply get away with everything, every lie needs to have consequences

what is this video

in illinois we dont have teef