What is causing this decline in Christianity among Europeans?

what could cause europe to go from 70% christian to a quarter christian and falling in three generations?
its not as if the bible changed, or jesus changed. its interdasting.
so what happened that might explain christianity dying out? it really makes ya think

you could make christianity illegal essentially, like in the eastern bloc, but that doesnt stop someone from actually believing in jesus, so we would expect to see a resurgence once the communist bloc fell, so its not that. we saw two world wars, and lots of christians died, but these are overall percentages, not raw numbers, and those who died would have still had families, children who grew up and persisted, wives back at home, etc. the churches are still there, albeit empty ghost towns, they still operate.

so what is it? muslim invaders can only explain a small fraction of that, and its trajectory doesnt correlate with the muslim and african migrations, but rather seems to have been in full effect prior to, and throughout that period.

and the same argument with the migrants applies to vatican tooo also, which occurred later on in the process around the 60s i think, and still would only even account for catholics, and this decline was already in full effect

what could it be then?
what do you think can explain such a radical shift?

It's education, wealth, lack of existential struggle, and cultural shifts toward secularism.
When you combine critical thinking with a comfortable life, religion fades naturally.

so youre saying plato wasnt a critical thinker? educated? i dont think thats it..
i think you make alot of good points, but they moreso apply to abrahamism or institutionalized religion rather than religion itself.

True, but Plato didn’t have the access to knowledge we do today. Modern science and global ideas challenge traditional beliefs, which makes it easier for societies to become more secular. It’s not just about critical thinking; it’s the availability of information that shifts perspectives.

and the same is true of augustine
this guy is genuinely smart, albeit misguided having to operate under the restraints of christianity/abrahamism and its bounds, but he was still living in age of platonic influence when the church was trying to approaching it from a neoplatonic philosophical angle and arguing about the divinity of jesus

like how moses never existed, and jesus believed in moses? but most christians arent even aware of that, and that sort of information is heavily contained, even to jews. so what are some specific examples you can think of that might have become introduced to the public zeitgeist that would undermine christianity, specifically amongst europeans at such a radical rate?

evolution? surely but that wasnt even taught widespread until very recently and was largely contained within academic circles
i doubt most people even know what the word abiogenesis means, even today

Consumerism, materialism, humanism, and comfort. The trend is very similar in the US.

by that logic the inverse should be true, and when such things were not applicable, like during two world wars, there should have resulted in a resurgence, or a stagnance of decline at the very least.

i think this question is alot more complicated than it might initially appear. on the surface at a quick proposition, you would think x, y, z, but when you actually account those factors to their precise applicability/inapplicability it doesnt explain the occurring steady declination

You cannot serve both God and Money.

Failed to adapt to the modern age. It's as simple as that. The church offers nothing of value to the average person anymore so they stop wasting their time.

the church used to operate those giant clocktowers in towns. every morning at the crack of dawn they would wake up the entire town to tell their slaves to go to work, and then again when to go to bed.
when capitalism came around, the church took bribes for wealthy capitalists to change the schedule the rings earlier than dawn to force every extra minute of work out of them that they could. how insufferable it must have been to not even be a farmer, working a night job or on your own schedule to constantly have to be woken up by the jewish church for their other slaves.

the more i look into christian history, especially the dark ages, the more dystopic it becomes. genuinely evil.

Its really boring

Dude go listen to a guy talk about jew fables to morally guide you

Europoors are gay. Christianity says you shouldn’t be gay. Pretty simple.

ignore your own eyes goyim

capitalism

dark ages

I think you might be retarded

oh shit youre right kek
touché sir
but still, europe is non-christian as fuck now
same argument applies, even if its the wrong chart

north/western european christianity has mostly been a tool of feudalism and before and after feudalism christianity is completely different, organized religion is simply a political institution that serves its own purposes like any other.

early christianity

jewish cult in rome for slaves and other urban subhumans

germanic migration era

gothic arians, romans, basically just heretics, pseudo-convert paganism, everywhere else was still pagan unless middle eastern brown people

dark ages 500c-1500c

slow gradual christianization that came with urbanization as roman legacy, 99% of population was illiterate peasants that simply saw church as community events by the authorities, you can whine about jewish propaganda as much as you want but there are enough peasant revolts to point out reality

1500s-1700s

protestantism arguably is very christian, but ultimately seperates and makes people more individualistic and educated, ironically gives way to liberalism, skepticism arises and ancient (pagan) philosophy gets rediscovered, science booms, extremely chaotic and violent period in europe, church becomes a helpless backdrop in the face of it besides in spain which declines

1800s

pagan romanticism becomes a trend for a while, road gets paved towards industrial revolution, liberalism dominates

Europoors are gay. Christianity says you shouldn’t be gay. Pretty simple.

ok jew worshiper

im talking about the actual Capitalism™ wealth of nations, not the basic commerce which you understand to be capitalism.
and the dark ages were a thing, as is evident by the complete stagnation of intellectual progress until the dark ages ended after byzantium fell and all those censored and lost european works found their way back into europe.

Liberalism. The belief in rationality, and equality.

Shitskins existing is the proof that there is no good god. Any good god would exterminate every single one of them. Also seeing all the immoral, disgenic,subhumans get ahead in life, while good genetic stock people being taxed, and suppressed into extinction, it is easy to conclude that evil rules all our countries, and our countries support christianity, thus christianity is evil. Christianity is essentially just an other "kill whitey" religion, opening the gates to our countries, aiding our replacement, trying to disarm us from self defense. Most evil people larp as christians, because they can just claim they prayed their sins away, and continue to sin more, and will just pretend pray that too away later. The values christianity preach, forgiveness and tolerance, cause the death of virtue, and degrading human quality. Shitskins and other subhumans should be exterminated globally, no exceptions, kill all mutts too, if there is an afterlife, than it doesn't matter, because they just get there sooner, and if there isn't an afterlife, than it doesn't matter either, because you did the right thing by killing them all, and there are no long term cost of it.

Even buddhism would justtify exterminating all shitskins, other subhumans, even bothersome animals, to remove all creatures that are not worth reincarnating into, and could just drug our livestock, so their short lives would be happy, and even downgraded reincarnations would not suffer for too long.

Why pray to Christ if he doesn't give power and doesn't speak to his followers? There are gods who answer during the ritual of invocation and who give abilities if you constantly pray to them

It's funny because African "Christianity" isn't what whites would call Christianity.
It's a mix of weird tribal belief voodoo shit and American megachurch grifting shit.
They'll pray to a dead cat whilst the pastor shakes them down for cash.

moses never existed

The Moses exodus myth is unironically related to the Vedic Daksha Yajna sacrifice myth.
The basic theme being that Daksha / Aaron have a sacrificial feast to a false god (Vishnu / Baal), and God (Yahweh / Shiva) comes along and murders them all
So yeah it looks like Moses and Yahweh are just skin suits over much earlier religious figures.

zionism, theory of evolution, "the science", and many other ideas that are not true.

white people never once agreed on what real christianity is anyway, all abrahamism is built to purity spiral itself to death because its a schizo evolution of a tribal jewish ethnic paganism, pagan cultures dont have this problem

white zionists are primarily christians

99% of population was illiterate peasants that simply saw church as community events

thats really what chopping down pagans trees was all about. ever worked outdoors in the middle of summer? those trees had the best shade and generations of townspeople would rest there. they were the proverbial ancient water cooler, but also bonded people to the land itself. by cutting them down, jews forcibly inserted the church as the new water cooler, where conversation topics could not only be managed and moderated, but provided. literally nobody actually worshipped trees. but this is a practice jews still employ today. ever notice how when jews build new shopping malls or anything anywhere they cut down all the trees? this is why. to disconnect people from the land itself. no more trees where grandpa met grandma whose initials you could still see carved.

i mean, its kind of obvious. i think only christcucks are so devoid of conceptualizing the divine that they think their creator is already perfect. even a small child could tell you that.

memeflaggot kike

seething about Christianity

Like clockwork

probably churches destroying community to worship muslim niggers

and european christianity is just a slop of bastardized platonism and other regional myths. its a weapon. its adapted in order to suit its target. thats why, for me, i am all about dat Ching Chong. Ching Chong is King.

abrahamism itself is just a slop of other peoples myths that jews read about in the library of alexandria and hastily scrapped together to show alexander's generals as a desperate way to try to claim land. all of their knowledge of the divine comes secondhand. like someone having overheard a conversation someone with actual experience. for christians, thirdhand for paul, fourthand for the gospels, since those were even the actual first generation christians, but second generation christians who were trying to preserve their knowledge, or so they say. i think it was all just one continuous psyop that developed over time.

like for example, the original ending of mark, no risen jesus, just a missing body. so thats essentially a first draft, and upon feedback and criticism they reuse some 600 of the 680 verses, and add in they warned the authorities someone might try to kidnap the body and inserted written jesus (and ofc put this one first in the bible, rather than chronologically). then in the 4th century, the church rewrote the ending of mark to include risen jesus as it became politically correct for the catholics to see jesus as divine

Who cares?
That doesn't mean its equivalent to African voodoo shit.

youre right, those myths probably are cemented and not liable to change interpretations to suit the political needs of the voodoo elite

yes it does, whats normal or "default" about the various battling foreskin cults that call themselves trve christianity? which one?