Don't get married

i wouldn't have the balls to divorce her

It's important that they know you could and would walk out the door at any moment if they fuck up too bad.

No, not if you have kids. If you have no children then the point of money is to spend it, you're correct. If you have children you should save your money for them.

It's a coin toss and pure luck, women can change and most will change to be different than the person you knew, because they never matured so they are always open to be indoctrinated. You got lucky, but also other factors play in, if OP ex had group of friends that poisoned her mind, or read a book or sometimes few social media posts, a woman will actually believe it because they are delusional, that assuming there's no other man already lined up.
But I agree with you, people should take their time evaluating the woman, a lot of anon her in Anon Babble would 'just become her bf and make white babies someone else will take her if you wait!!!' when you see posts being for two months only, nope, not just a gf materiel, you should look for wife and mother material, you should be with this person for years and go through all sort of arguments and if they still stick around, then that a person you would invest your time with, still, don't get married and do as mentioned above.
I have personally been with plenty of girls, and all of them so far failed my tests, some are great but it only lasts few months then the real personality and past issues start to surface, some I busted already got active on dating apps after few months, that a person will 100% cheat on you, some shows little signs of disrespect, that a person will shit on you if they got any leverage, and so on.

Spending on kids is still a loss. They’ll break it eventually

They’ll break it eventually

So, you just assume everyone else will fail? I don't, maybe you are just coping telling yourself that your children will be failures because you yourself are one?

Yes we fail in similar directions, at last for a while

OP ex had group of friends that poisoned her mind

This is exactly what happened. Ex had family in kiwiland she kept updating her living situation with, cares more about her sister and what she says because her husband is a big business man. She was also sending money behind my back to her parents. All her siblings flex their luxury vehicles, while I'm someone who cares about planning and keeping afloat without wanting to worry into old age.
Near the end, she was just spending big out of our joint account than she normally did, and obsessed about my other investments to the lawyer. If marriage is about trust then why would anyone trust women after one? why would one need to establish trust through marriage in the first place in today's day and age when everyone can get an equal paying job

just go to church or whatever by never have it official

Ironically the church is what helped her lawyer up in the first place

marriages end in divorce or death, pick one goy, don't shit on the money game business tough luck shoulda profited!

and I'm the kike here? You're a nigger calling the kettle black.

She got more money than you, now she’s the gift giver. Money is meant to be spent.

- change the system, by force. That will take a collective efforts from men

Working on it. I hope you are prepared.

Ironically the church is what helped her lawyer up

Churches are no longer places of worship, but feminist supremacist kike houses.

Yes, you are the kike here. Because you're upset about having to pay money to get out of what was supposed to be a death pact, and now you are complaining about losing your shekels over a death pact.

makes death pact

breaks it

it cost him money

not his life

complains about the shekels he lost instead of his life

Seems pretty kike like to me.

The final and ultimate caveat is that Spirit cannot be bought with money.

You should NEVER trust a woman.. cheez, that's the mistake a lot of dudes do, they think and deal with a woman like a man, you can trust a dude, you can NOT trust a woman. I always say women never mature beyond 13yo kid, their mental growth stops there, would you trust your 13yo son (let alone a stranger) with your bank account? you always have some measure that keep your woman in check, and her realizing doing x will results in xyz, reward or punishment, just like how would you do it with a 13yo, and guess what? they will actually be happier that you make it 'clear' and you 'communicate' and other bs, reality is, they are just immature. Women are pragmatic, they want what you add to HER. Also, women operate in a hive mind, they can't articulate their own thoughts, what she says is something she heard or read and her applying it in a similar situation. Look around, have you ever seen a woman that's 'loner'? ie she does everything alone and still functioning normally.. never, they always have at least one person around, and this person will help her 'think' by talking to them at least, hell, they can't go to the washroom without being in a group.
Bottom line: never trust her, never have a joint account, ask her to sit in the house and you only work, control who she can be friend with, and you can buy some stuff to her like clothes, food, etc. Buy a house, and don't put it in your name, put it under your mom name (the only woman you can trust) or someone else you trust, prenup, and everything as a measure regardless she knows it or not, just in case things ended, she knows she fucked up, also like the anon above, make her realize that you will walk away if she fucked up.
About what happened: I know, it sucks, you feel not just your money is gone but your life, your memory, your youth, even a piece of you because mostly you formed a unified identity living with this person, but you will be ok and you will do better next time, just be prepared.

Should of just stayed MGTOW. You would of kept your resources. Never get a marriage license, keep the government out of marriage.

And get pre nups.

She was also sending money behind my back to her parents.

Never have a joint account with a whore.

Always keep your own money separate from hers. She can work and support herself.

Women are not the beautiful gender, they’re the energetic gender.

Beauty is a male thing, although, in America it’s a bit of a tough sell on that one. The point is, your looking for it in the wrong place.

Better question is why was she doing it behind his back? Why didn't he send them money? If people in my family need money I give it to them. My would never have to sneak around to give money to family.

*My wife would never

Didn't get married, but was dating a girl from Europe.
Flew there multiple times, would stay for a month or so.
She would stay here for a month or so.
She quit her job and gave up her apartment to move in with me.
Within 3 weeks she got mad at me for not doing something "good enough" and decided that meant I deserved to be punished
I left the house early the next day and didn't come home until 9pm or so
I told her she has 30 days to move out

why the fuck would she quit her job, give up her awesome apartment in a contested area, take on debt, and then treat her host, partner, lover, provider, like shit?

There were flags, but I thought I could fix her

women

But but she said she was my BEST FRIEND
she said she wants to spend the rest of her life with me
She said she promised she would never leave
Hell we have kids names figured out
You are telling me that she can in a snap of the fingers upturn that???
Doubtful
She loves me
True love!

Yeah that behavior is red flag central. OP was literally turned into beta bux.

You married trash because you are trash as well. Garbage people are very common nowadays. I'll never get divorced because I own my wife spiritually, intellectually, and physically. She views me as a God.

I notice a trend of subpar people get into relationships or married and the aristocracy or rich people dont end up having offspring. Should be the other way around.

She probably wants to send more what they agreed on? as her sister have a bizman and probably was competing to send the same? who knows, but hopefully OP next girl will never have access to his assets, and never let his guard down. Always pay attention and you get to choose to pretend you didn't know or not, never be that oblivious dude, make her knows that you know, and you are aware, and you CHOSE to let go this time because you are 'good' etc etc

Oh, wife, we need to talk tonight?

that line alone make women think of everything and put them in an endless fear, they will never forget it, then that night

I noticed you did/sent/xyz money to your mom, is she ok? other bs about her mom

now you made her know that you know, if it's the first time, you can stop here, second, go as

ok, we need to agree that 1 2 3 whatever about the money

if she did a third, remind her that you agreed, and there will be no fourth, if she still did it again, end that joint account and start your exist strategy not just because the money part, but this person doesn't respect your words or you at all, you don't wanna be with a person like that.

Some people take marriage too seriously, it’s just the easiest way to survive on this earth

kek, I know some people who had their 'HS sweet heart!!" and after 7 years she just woke up and said she doesn't like him anymore, another one she was cheating, another she was monkeybranching, etc etc.
I wouldn't trust a woman 300 years ago, let alone now.

Lel yep sounds about right.
Yeah there literally is no reason to trust one whatsoever and if anyone does they truly only have themselves to blame

tfw married but dead broke

This is how I win

my other investments

Hey. Your ex Herr vacating with half Your money.

Anyways hmmm what Kind of investments you have? Why hire a lawyer to manage Your finances but not divorce??

Fuck that. I'm sorry, but that's cucked. If I notice something is wrong, before she tells me something is wrong, then something is really fucking wrong. She can send whatever she wants to her family, but she better not hide it, or anything, from me. She can do whatever with the money as long as she's upfront about it. I can understand a fuck up, but I can't handle deceit. I can understand a mistake, but I can't handle a lie.

Or, even deceit by admission. If my wife spends more than expected, I expect her to come tell me why, before I even realize she did.

But, personally for me, I'm the one who gives too much to family. My wife doesn't have a problem telling family to fuck off. I give money to all of them.

For young men to get angry enough to fight, they have to be losing something they want to hold on to. That is the reason women blame men who don't care, because they know that it is -their- responsibility(a woman's most hated enemy). They have to blame someone besides themselves and they blame men for every horrible thing they choose to do to themselves. Feckless cowards.

Government marriage is batshit insane because it is batshit insane. Avoid Government marriage(this might mean you have to avoid women completely to avoid palimony and child support to some woman you just met who left a hair-tie at your house once). 1 in 20 marriages end in a divorce so bad the man commits suicide. Only 1 in 20 succeed. The rest are normal divorces. That 50% number only exists because of the marriages that haven't ended -YET-. Marriage ends one of 2 ways, divorce or death. Do not get married. If you are a man, do NOT get married. Marriage is only slavery to the Government, and ALL governments are getting "demanding". Expect everyone to promote Government marriage.

"Marry Ludzweila, mother of 6 with 6 different baby-daddies! She's good, she's Christian!"

God can forgive women. Men don't have to.

You sound annoying online, let alone in person

*In admission

Government marriage is not marriage. You are obligated to pay the bills, and you have no choice about that. The government controls marriage.

There should be no-one between you and God, not a woman, not a man and certainly not a government. Marriage does not exist.

You know what the folks in this thread need, a secretary. THAT is all those things your talking about

this

Honestly, my smartphone is better than any secretary I ever needed.

I'd rather stay single and get by on one income. Less headaches less hassle in general.

Your smartphone doesn’t wear a skirt

f I notice something is wrong, before she tells me something is wrong, then something is really fucking wrong.

Yeah I agree, but we are talking about marriage, if that was just you both seeing each other, sure you can just walk away, which is why you should never marry a girl that quick in the first place, if ever. For marriage, imo you should keep the reward/punishment as system in place with your woman, even if it's simple like a word for rewarding or a stern look for punishment, all while maintaining that string of connection between you two, if she pulls, you release a little, if she releases, you pull, you can't snap over something little until you give her few warnings, simply because women are immature to realize how fucked up a thing is. they are also governed by instincts, you trying to reason with her will go no where, and you assuming you can have her like a guy roommate that you trust with stuff and things will be just like adults, she will fuck you up one way or another, you either take control or she will fuck everything up, incl your future kids, which is why single mom always fuck their kids up in all possible ways.

Its stressful enough doing dishes, laundry, making dinner for yourself as a bachelor that adding a woman who will yell at you for doing the dishes "wrong" would be just insane.

Understandable, but it’s actually hard mode like it or not

You have no idea how much better a peaceful life is over the chaos of an average woman's behavior. Nobody ever holds women responsible. Worthless cowards.

Yeah, it seems like the truth annoys trannies.

Government marriage is fake, they let faggots do it. Real marriage is between a man, a woman, and God. Everything else is bullshit. Real marriage doesn't come with a piece of paper.

However, legal marriage has some tax benefits and other things. Still, you should never enter into a legal marriage if you are already in one with your wife and God. If you are actually in a marriage, you made a promise to God until you die. Losing money shouldn't really worry you. If you've actually made a commitment of marriage, the money stuff should be small potatoes.

Holy based, Christ maxed and truthpilled

My smartphone doesn't need healthcare, maternity leave, cause HR problems or needs to be paid.

It's hard mode regardless dealers choice in terms of working. You either work a job put in overtime and have some free time or have it get eaten away being yelled at or dealing with a womans drama after work instead of relaxing.

Now having a girlfriend whos reliable who doesnt want to get married and wont cheat on you is one thing.

ANY power the government has over you WILL be abused. Do NOT get married, it does not exist. No matter what church you go to, if you're left with responsibility but no authority, you're a slave.

A girlfriend who’s reliable and won’t cheat on you is called a male, don’t get things mixed up.

Women are EXCELLENT with kids, strangers, elderly, and retards. You know, 90% of the population

marriage in a matriarchy

hole acquired resources

no longer useful nor attractive to hole

consequences

Game Over
Would you like to try again? That'll be 6 gorillion sheqalim.

Besides, where can Men go that women cannot invade whenever they want as if they did nothing wrong? Men are not allowed to have anything for men. Fucking evil.

Women need their husbands to care for them, but only a man can do it alone.

To be fair, everything you said is not reality. Women have delusions about reality. Men have delusions about women.

if she pulls, you release a little, if she releases, you pull, you can't snap over something little until you give her few warnings

I disagree with you here, respectfully. I think you need to set boundaries. If you cross that line with me, I'm done with you. I say this after 25 years of marriage. Of course there will be things that make you mad, she will do things you do not like, she will be dumb about something. You need to accept that, people make mistakes.

However you need to be very firm in your rules. And, she needs to know you mean it. Deceit is not something to be tolerated. If she spent money on something you don't like, that's an argument you can get over. If she spent money on something dumb, and tried to hide or lie about it, that's a much worse situation.

There are certain things that you can not tolerate, and some you can. They need to realize the difference. Same for you as a husband.

This is correct. "You can't call me that. You can't say that to me." Allow yourself to defend yourself. An open mind is the world's toilet. Don't let people shit bad ideas into your mind.

Defend yourself! Prepare for battle!

Find God, and you find the purpose of your life

Judging from OP's writing, it sounds like he was kind of a shit husband...
Basically, don't hide your true nature while you're dating.
Too many guys pretend to be something they're not to impress a bitch.

If you're gonna drive a bitch away, might as well do it while it's still cheap.

checked and I agree, yeah, some stuff can not be tolerated, for me for example, cheating, if she did, there will be really harsh consequences on her, no matter how or why or when, no exception. If she lied about spending money tho, I would warn her and let her know I know and observe, if that will correct the behavior or not, otherwise, she doesn't respect me and obviously not a person I want to be with.

There were flags, but I was desperate

FTFY

The women without flags are where?

Citation needed.

I avoid all women, they are like spooky ghosts. Stay away from them.

The best way to get women away from you is to give them presents when they do something that’s too distracting to handle

I only hang out with trashy people therefore only trashy people exist

That's what you sound like.

Do you think a man and a woman making a promise to God to be together until they die is something bad? That's what marriage is, not some state sanctioned bullshit.

The irony is, a marriage in the eyes of God means less to some people than the legal marriage. Again, if you have already promised God that you will be with that women until you or her die, then why is legal marriage more intimidating? The most you can lose in a legal marriage is money. In a godly marriage one of you loses your life.

That's the problem with modern marriage. It's a financial risk, not a promise to God.

There going to try to reject it because suspicious, but you just say you couldn’t get her one sneeze out of your mind and it’s driving you crazy so here’s a little box of tissues now leave me alone

That's what marriage is, not some state sanctioned bullshit.

You can have marriage with no vows at all.
You can't have a marriage without laws affecting it.
Even if you don't get a certificate / license, you still are considered to be in a "common law marriage"

Basically: you couldn't possibly be any wronger.

Not every state recognizes common law marriage.

I think an important part of it is meshing with a network.
I know plenty of men who were divorced by twenty-five, now. A huge part of staying together is integrating your life in a community, so that if you end up getting a divorce it torpedoes your social status.

Don't get me wrong, Christianity is a faggot religion that undermines white people, but most of the people I know that got married because they were horny at 20 are still together, because of how looked down upon divorce was in their local community. I know women that have converted to Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormonism because they do actually have that follower instinct, and have non-secular, tight communities. If I found that with evangelicals, I'd probably be married right now.

Social dynamics are fucked because women are taught by media to be hypergamous, and that doesn't lead to long-term partnering. I'd love someone to build a life with. I like cooking, and I don't mind doing household work. Basic partnership feels pretty dead in America, but that's just my experience.

Sorry that happened to you. I don't think there is a point to marriage in any society where the woman doesn't become your explicit property.

Even the super fine women have government instituted red flags. It's not the women that are the problem, it's the government control.

The government is why marriage does not exist.

"Common law marriage" equals "she left a hair-tie at your apartment once."

It's a old joke, but society is the problem. You don't need to put all the burden on men anymore. Women can take care of themselves.

Even the super fine women have government instituted red flags

"Good-looking" women (especially the ones who ho it up extra with makeup / clothes) are basically walking red flags.
I'm gonna quote some feminist literature here, but that is what is referred to as "courting the male gaze" (not to be confused with "courting the male gays" kek)...

Basically, most girls (who aren't severely overweight or have other obvious aesthetic flaws) are pretty good-looking, but the really eye-popping ones catch your attention because they put a ton of effort into doing just that.
If that's her personality, she's grown accustomed to the male attention... it validates her, and she feels empty without it.

She'll flirt mercilessly with other guys when you're out together and drop you for someone who showers her with more attention the minute you get slightly distracted with something else.
This doesn't go away with age, btw.
There are always older guys who'll still show her the attention she craves.

because of how looked down upon divorce was in their local community.

No you are right, but it's not because integrating in community, it's because women are ruled by instinct, and there's nothing scare a woman more than her public image being ruined, it's why there's a whole industry built around that (makeup/plastic surgery), and also why women always approach a new thing by 'normalizing' it, 'body positivity' 'open relationship' 'sex work real work' 'slutshaming' 'booktok dark romance' etc etc, because they want to eliminate their biggest fear, and get the 'hive' approval before they do it, they don't do it because their moral compass says no, they don't because they are afraid to be a pariah, an outcast!
Which is funny seeing women trying to play the same tactic and project their fear on men, like 'icks' or 'incel' or 'loner' as if 'you are not part of the hive, you are bad!', reality is, most men don't care about that and that is not even on their 'fear radar'.

Fine doesn't have to mean looks.

The problem is the government pays women to divorce their husbands. It pays them to cheat on you. It pays them and her lawyers and the judge and the state using your money.

Where in the bible does it say that the government belongs between you and God? Only the men have laws they must obey. Women are paid to be trash.

The government is the problem with marriage.

so that if you end up getting a divorce it torpedoes your social status.

I've seen that nuclear option get used and boy did she regret it. They practically excommunicate her because now she's just a bad influence.

Rarely happens. It's usually rare enough that the news covers it because of how unusual it is, like a father winning custody, even though EVERYONE knows the father is the better custodial parent.

If that's her personality, she's grown accustomed to the male attention... it validates her, and she feels empty without it.

bingo, and you can usually spot them quickly with something eye-catchy, like dyed red hair, big earrings, tattoo, nails, high heels, etc.
They CRAVE attention, they are very insecure too and carefully build their outside image, both appearance and personality. Sure, they might look pretty with all that fake charade but are they wife material, mother material?

A demoralization thread, crux is "white men don't get married don't reproduce." Shill.

Those same women go rushing to churches to find their next vict- er, I mean, "Lucky Husband" who won't ever be raising his own kids.

Reality is demoralizing. Stop it.

Typical feminist.

kek, and they try to hide the red flags btw, but it's hardcoded into them it's impossible to hide

nigger, you applied to the government to get a loicense to tame and marry a cunt. No alarm bells rang in your head when you were paying the fee, right after getting your dick sucked for the very last time......

think my niggers THINK

Oh, there's always someone down bad enough. The "down bad" is so terrible, even good christians go waddling up to those ladies muttering "touch muh pp, not all women, touch muh pp, not all women, touch muh pp, PLEASE, IT'S SO LONELY!" and simp out. They think that they're not doing it for "reasons", too.

I love God and Jesus. Everyone else needs to bring receipts.

Actual marriage is only for godly believers. God created marriage, not the state of New York. Non-godly people shouldn't get married. I see a marriage between a man and woman that aren't godly believers the same as I see a marriage between 2 men - it's an affront to God and an attack on marriage.
Leftists don't believe in marriage at all so they are always working to undermine it and one way is by driving up divorce rates.

No, marriage is for slaves. The Men of God do not need to marry, even Jesus said so:

When God raises people to life, they won't marry. They will be like the angels in heaven.

but can you smartphone suck your dick after a few Mike's hard lemonade at the company picnic because her bf farted during sex?

You should have taken her on one last holiday to some third world shithole and drowned her

what are all these pimples on my balls? Why does everything hurt? Why am I paying child-support to kids that are not mine?!

Calm down half-satan.
If the state incentivizes people to be married in the eyes of the state, they'll do that.

You’re a bitch for letting your wife leave you faggot.

Divorce is the thing that pays everyone well out of the Man's income, not marriage.