Successful or poorly?
Combat vets from other countries, how would you rate the IDF as a fighting force?
ITT We predict how the IDFs latest and most intense ground attack in Gaza will go
Diaper force struggling with civilians and needs mercs for any fighting force. Kikes should be slaughtered everywhere.
You have guns faggot
how would you rate the IDF as a fighting force?
Incompetence and woeful inexperience in urban warfare outside of harassing a contained population in checkpoints. About 2 weeks after October 7th an American anon summarised that the winning move was not to go into Gaza (advised by the Americans from decades of experience in asymmetrical warfare / insurgencies)
Maybe hold '2 weeks of mourning' and to negotiate for the hostages and send the propaganda machine into overdrive.
Netanyahu might cop the fall, Israel takes an L but their restraint will be seen with sympathy, despite the potential domestic turmoil. But it would be unlikely since the biblical blood-lust was far too great.
Now here we are.
Israel is the anchor that sinks the US.
Global redpilling, worldwide awareness about the Israel/Palestine conflict and historical Zionism. Bringing to light complicit governments and bought politicians in an incredibly aggressive and uncontained feedback loop.
Now /chip/ and mainstream media are practically indistinguishable -all accessible on mobile devices- and there's no stemming the tide.
all by 1500 militants with AK's, flip-flops, homebrew RPG's and flying lawn-mowers.
Some David and Goliath shit mayne
an American anon summarised that the winning move was not to go into Gaza
i guess the usa would just flood the whole place with napalm and send their troops in only for deadchecking.
That movie was pretty grim
as far as i can tell, the IDF havent been able to hold ground basically ANYWHERE in gaza, for the whole war
thats why they just decided to just blow up/destroy random buildings. to boost morale
im sure this will be just as pointless, and another couple blocks of gaza will be turned to sand, and thats it
Oh i see he died because he was fighting with a spork huh?
Kinda sad :(
They're not fighting anything and acting like this isn’t entirely a jewssish concoction to give them a reason to genocide Palestinians is silly.
Well put. Btw did you see the Jew puppet Mertz saying that the German guy are lazy.
The kikes are only slaughtering civilians at this point. Hamas doesnt exist anymore (in a organized way), its just an excuse to keep the bombings
Hamas posts videos still
Not as many however, to be fair
jews have basically wiped out the gaza pakis in realtime HD live stream. There is only going to be one winner here.
maybe they will manage to beat their usual 70% women and children casualty rate maybe 80 to 90% women and children if they really apply themselves
Palestine is rightful Christian clay.
Do you pay the slightest attention to reports out of Gaza? That movie is tame by comparison.
bbc.com
msn.com
theguardian.com
'War'
They aren't fighting a war. There is no opposing army.
They are liquidating a concentration camp.
Fuck man
Bringing to light complicit governments and bought politicians in an incredibly aggressive and uncontained feedback loop.
It's been such a powerful redpill on how facile our politicians are. We are just a vassal state of the US and they are a vassal of Israel.
The Lebanon campaign was especially revealing, couldn't cross more than 5 miles into Lebanon until after a ceasefire. Entire army of quivering pussies.
How many Hamas fighters are even left? 500? 1000? Do you know how many airstrikes there have been over the last 15 months. At a 0.1 success ratio every Hamas fighter should have been killed 3 times over by now.
The IDF targets civilians. The civilians are the primary target. They kill them by the truckload in ways the Nazis couldn't even dream up. It's everything but the gas chambers in Gaza.
US soldiers are being deployed there this week, to run the final concentration camp in Rafah. Did you know if the ICC tries to prosecute anyone involved the US has a Hague Invasion Act?
Wait really? I didn’t know us troops were being sent there
They kill them by the truckload in ways the Nazis couldn't even dream up.
only thing interesting was the pagers, unless im missing something. and that wasnt even the gazanoids.
They arroved this week. A "private security company" as part of a US/Israeli concetration camp plan. It's a military cutout. They couldn't even get enough 3rd world mercs to do it so had to resort to their own.
The UN and humanitarian organisations have said they won't cooperate with the plan. It's the type of plan African dictators used to starve and slaughter people in camps. The plan is due to start on Friday. The IDF is driving civilians down towards it, if any of them will make it.
If the IDF can continue attacking, without any political reason stopping them, they're guaranteed to succeed because Hamas will run out of ammo eventually.
How many Hamas fighters are even left?
hamas can probably build traps from the unexploded material alone for years to come
Mossad and IAF carried the war though, it is why they were more successful in buckling Hezbollah via surgical strikes + assasinations. Nonetheless it does not work well against a prepared committed entrenched foe, the IDF ground forces have had shambolic performances.
Recycling ammo isn't that hard to do
most palestinians lived outside of palestine as refugees, even before this started
seeing all their extended family and frens being blown to hell has a powerfully radicalizing effect
theres probably more than when they started
its hamas brass thats having problems staying alive
only one left
picrel
the far bigger issue is not being able to resupply now that assad is gone
joos still using ww1 tactics. wonder why they ain't winning
You missed the stories of children with bullets in their heads?
Or refugees burned alive en-masse in tents?
All the images of decapitated toddlers?
Or reports quadcopter drones that made sounds of crying babies and shot people who came out?
IDF soldiers rioting over their right to sodomize Palestinian prisoners? (The leader is now a hero on Israeli TV)
The bulldozers tearing up graveyards in Gaza?
The 2000lb bombs dropped on apartment complexes? Every hospital destroyed? The IDF ambusing and executing 15 ambulance workers?
This is just what I can remember off the top of my head from the last two years. Go google it. Google Hind Rajab. The media and tech companies work triple shifts trying to whitewash and censor everything but it all tumbles out.
Let alone all the direct statements from every Israeli President, Minister, General, TV reporter and MP constantly raving that Gaza should be starved, shattered, destroyed, and ever woman child and baby exterminated. It's been endless for 15 months. I doubt the 3rd Reich was as publicly explicit in its intentions.
The IDF is going in to slaughter civilians, drive them into a concentration camp, then either kill them there by starvation or force them across the Egyptian border into temporary exile (The IDF will be back into the Sinai after "Khamas" shortly after)
i can see you havent been paying attention the last few weeks
US being there on the ground there is maybe the only thing that could force israel to stop chimping out as they have been
bibis already on thin ice as it is with the don
trump has been busy trying to re-calibrate US foreign relations with all of the mideast, sans israeli involvement. its very clear that the US side of the deal with all the emirates and princelings hinged on keeping israeli cock out of his mouth. hes not gonna let some dumb jew he used to play golf with btfo the whole deal hes trying to make.
and if he does, well i can only imagine the consequences for yidsrael will never be the same
Sure. 40,000 fighters. I'm sure. nearly as may as Denmark and Norway. And there's nearly fully equipped Hezbollah with only 100,000 or so.
Assad was supplying Hamas. Right. Did he use deliveroos through Israel? You racist fucking genocidiare. Fuck your twisted country. it's destroyed the United States.
It's going to be a complete humilation.
In terms of physicality, The Internet Defense Force is probably the second weakest on earth.
I don't need to tell you who's first.
Fuck your fantasies and your apologies for mass-murder. Your soldiers post their maneuvers and boast about killing civilians on instagram. Take your bullshittery and your hasbara and shove it up your ass.
US being there on the ground there is maybe the only thing that could force israel to stop chimping out as they have been
The IDF is going full Rwanda and the US is giving the green light, two thumbs up and free tanks and bullets for the whole operation. The UK is flying recon planes to track which civilians to bomb. These fake splits and play pretend politics are complete and total lies. The slaughter was greenlight MONTHS ago. By the whole western world, or what's left in the shell.
I am fucking sick of Israel!
Bharat?
How many Hamas fighters are even left?
Their numbers have increased 100x because of this.
Yeah they missed one, how many Palestinian kids did he rape or shoot before getting the red arrow?
Because Channel 14 says so? Get fucked.
I'm sure the SS kept going on about partisans too.
Not everyone rolls over to die potato nigger, the IRA sucks nigger dicks so you assume everyone does
Kike projection again.
in 20 years "just following orders" will be seen as a failed attempt at an excuse. zionist israel will be seen in the same light as nazi germany
dude youre reeeeeaaaallll fucking dumb
this shouldnt be some revelation. its extremely common knowledge.
iran was what funded/armed hamas and hezzbollah. they helped organize the whole operation from the beginning. they provide logistics and supplies/ammo to both of the jihadis in the area. they literally talk about it all the time. its a point of natl pride for them.
problem is: the whole plan hinged on assad
iran was assads closest ally
assad in power meant iranian weapons/supplies could be smuggled into palestine (and lebanon), more or less freely.
with a regime thats now hostile to iran in power in syria, both hamas and hezzbollahs supply lines are completely fucking fucked
i know you mustve just discovered that al jazeera exists or something, but you genuinely do not know enough about this conflict to be even commenting on it
it should be very fucking clear simply from the posts i made ITT how i feel about israel and the IDF you dense fucking histrionic faggot
The IDF is going full Rwanda and the US is giving the green light
no, thats what theyve BEEN doing. bombing hospitals, sniping children, and airstriking refugee camps.
they literally cant anymore tho, because were going to be on the ground for the sole purpose of making sure that stops happening. that was the whole agreement don just made at the saudi summit. a summit that israel was not present at
again
you dont know wtf youre talking about and are in complete hysterics
stfu
There are enough unexploded ordinance in Gaza to recycle to equip the resistance for the next 15 years.
No exaggeration. There have been more than 100k airstrikes into Gaza, there is a conservative dud-rate of 2% according to the US statistics which the Israelis are referencing.
But it's much higher than that since the munitions are decades old.
The resistance simply improvise for the fuses.
Hence the whole rhetoric about occupying Gaza and clearing all the bombs by the US
They're going to fight with IEDs only?
how are they still fighting? it's been nearly a year since the counter invasion for Oct 7. How is there anything left to shoot at?
What is REALLY revealing is
Blow up 99% of command and control with pagers, incapacitating them.
Hezbollah will never again be this weak or vulnerable to that attack
Piss it away advancing 5Miles into the border
Do nothing but "dismantle launchers and deplete some short range rockets"
Pretend they won.
Tyre unaffected
Hezbollah winning in elections and rebuilding in the south.
They will probably make their own untamperable disposable pagers now.
Imagine snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, one that if granted would have granted Netanyahu praise in the west as well as Lebanon.
Honestly for those paying attention it's been absolutely insane. The whiplash has been crazy. There's even voices that are daring to speak out.
Look at this shit:
thehill.com
thehill.com
Both published yesterday. Literally unthinkable that this would happen 3 years ago. And the Hill is one of the most read sites by congress in America. It's not a small name, but not a huge cable network either.
its extremely common knowledge.
Your too dumbshit to know that fucking nobody knew about any of this crap 15 months ago outside of /gpg/ and psychopathic Washingtonians. Now everybody knows. Knows it all backwards and sideways and all the ways. Don't feed me horseshit about Assad when a literal Isis commander who killed Americans is being fellated on live tv by the President of the United States, because it serves Israels interests and no-one elses. Don't come in here with stale Bush era bullshit and expect an audience. You going to go on about chemical attacks next? You're humiliating the Americans.
but you genuinely do not know enough about this conflict to be even commenting on it
I am tired of knowing about every sordid detail of your insane country and its endless wars and constant lies and I am sick to death of it. Why should I be expected to reading your fantasyland tales about hollywood happy endings while dead kids tumble out of the feeds 4 times an hour on the hour? How many times do you expect everyone to fall for these excuses?
they literally cant anymore tho, because were going to be on the ground for the sole purpose of making sure that stops happening.
The US military is not officially on the ground. There are only US mercs and cutouts who are tasked with running a CONCENTRATION CAMP. It is not 1999 and no-one in this thread is stupid enough to believe that the US is not a wholly owned subsidiary of the state of Israel. It is the India to their UK, and your works of fiction about US troops coming to save Palestinians is about as believable as Indians flying in to save the Irish during the famine. Take your runny hasbara and fuck off away from us. Israel is conducting a genocide in Gaza and the whole western world is supporting it. Have enough respect for the children starving to death not to try sugar coating it.
Yeah, absolutely. IED's are the leading cause of casualties in the GWOT, Iraq and Afghanistan because of it's proven effectiveness.
It's no different here, that's why the IDF carved out these corridors, they don't go into the heart of the centres. They learned that very quickly. That and opsec on tiktoking your position.
The last few videos Hamas released were baiting soldiers into IED ambushes.
The Taliban would observe troop movements for months and fire off a few rounds to see how the marines would move and where to plant roadside bombs.
In Iraq we had dead and dying Jihadis deliberately blocking doors and booby trapping their own corpses.
Don't underestimate the creativity of a determined resistance, especially if they're in entrenched positions on home ground and have mobility.
The whole region should be glassed.
Given the scale of Israeli aggression, is it truly surprising that Hamas has seen a surge in recruits? Prior to October 7, Gaza was already enduring steady attrition, with annual casualties numbering in the thousands - yet the world largely looked away. Hamas’s decision to stake everything on a single offensive was, in their eyes, a rational response. When they vow to fight to the last member, they are not speaking rhetorically. The claim that jews were bloodthirsty fanatics sacrificing children to their Moloch god has gone from conspiracy theory to undeniable reality in full view of the world. You view this things through the lens of a Westerner who wouldn't dare oppose authority and oppression against impossible odds.
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It should be a walk in the park, soldiers are trained to kill other soldiers.
Civilians and children in general don't fight back.
It is just murder anon.
Stop being an idiot.
You know what happened to the IRA during the Irish War of Indpendence? They ran out of ammo. Ceased to be a viable fighting force. They did get recruits, who could do fuck all because they had no weapons left.
There is no Hamas anymore. Their leadership has all been killed, along with the hostages. There's only negotiators left in Qatar and few scattered brigades hiding somewhere amidst the rubble praying for a quick death or an IDF patrol to come along. There is no active resistance left in that strip.
What remains are (maybe) 2 million civilians who are either going to be rounded up and slaughtered, starved to death, or forced at gunpoint over the border to begin the cycle again. Because we're living in the 4th Reich now. Our political class wanted it back and now they've got it. It'll happen to us all eventually now.
And the likes of you can fuck right off too. "Both-side"ing babies getting blown in half by YOUR bombs.
You are ignoring one important factor: demographics. Gaza has a LOT of young people in the population.
>The population density of Gaza rivals that of America’s largest cities, with more than 2 million people living on a roughly 140-square-mile strip of land. About 40% of Gaza’s population is 14 years old or younger and the territory’s median age was just 18 in 2020, making Gaza home to one of the world’s 20 youngest populations, based on figures from the CIA’s World Factbook.
usnews.com
Just consult the pic and it will start dawning on you why Israel is fucked in the long term.
nobody knew about any of this crap 15 months ago
no. everyone is not as stupid as you
weve watched iran supply hezzbollah on this very site since the early days of the syrian civil war you stupid bitch. thats 15 YEARS ago. the iranians literally tweeted out they were gonna do something on oct7th. they helped plan, fund and supply the entire operation
honest question: are you a woman? how are you this fucking dumb and hysteric?
youre so stupid and clueless im convinced youre falsflagging as pro-palestine to poison the well
stop talking. youre essentially running PR for the IDF by being this fucking confident in your retardation
The diaper brigade steps on broken glass, gets spooked and wastes ammo shooting at rubble. Then throws a bunch of pager grenades at each other.
Gaza has a LOT of young people in the population.
To throw stones?
Children in Gaza get shot for carrying water back to their tents. The IDF is one of the largest armies in the world. They are going in with tanks and aircraft and satellite feeds and drones and snipers and attack dogs and half the army is riddled with psychopathic lunatics raving for blood who aren't even as bad as the politicians driving them on.
Don't give me that chart when it's likely nearly half the people on it will be dead by the end of June if they're not already.
The only people paying attention to this stuff on October 6th were peace activists and sordid hasbarists like yourself.
iran supply hezzbollah
What happened to Assad and Hamas? Getting confused there? Switching shifts?
the iranians literally tweeted out they were gonna do something on oct7th.
Funny that Netenyahu never brought that up in 15 months isn't it you miserable shit.
stop talking.
That's essentially all you want me to do. You'll spin out any old bullshit but you keep showing your cards and falling back to rant about Iran or muslims or Assad or things no normal person would care about because ultimately the ignorant supremacist who've brainwashed you from birth didn't do a lot for your brains. Lucky for you I'm going to bed. Be sure to call in the next shift to shore up this thread after I'm gone you shameless fucking racist.
temporary exile
permanent exile what the fuck am i smoking. Goodnight thread. Don't let the shitters have an easy time.
Poor people will die disproportionately. This is the only outcome.
(((Hamas)))
There is no fucking a bunch of illiterate thought they could resist occupation. They were scammed by jews or the player was an pali looking jew who set things up and then induced the false flag. Or maybe Jews asked (((Qatar))) who larp as arabs to do that bidding.
They are not fighting. The commander at the top is a jewish paid man or a jew himself who is giving false hope. None of the fighters know about AI, Drones, new tech or anything outside of their small echochamber of "doing for allah". If that is also exterminated now then the commander is just pretending to be the resisting. The hostages will probably be kept shut until everything that is planned is done completed.
you will never be the junior surveillance member at Palantir reading people's behavior from hologram like rendering of people relayed through their phone.
The "Holy Land" has been nothing but blood and murder for thousands of years and it should just be one big crater of trinitite.
I mean... it'd be pretty fucking stupid if it "went poorly" wouldn't it? Considering we're talking about a fully equipped army against an outnumbered militia who've been starved for 11 weeks.
How is there anything left to shoot at?
israel is actually really bad at fighting real militants. go figure
infinite US taxdollars btw
jewish media
cuck
You think ppl like Bella Haddid care more about whoredom or dead children from her land?
Every angry Pali will be bought or killed and worst case scenario their voices will be taken over by Jews just like BLM.
kys kike
Kek. Bibi will never send his kids to the grinder like this. Nor will you Askenazims be in the service. Even lower jews are getting jewed. Enjoy your own poison
how would you rate the IDF as a fighting force?
Not supplied for sustained operations, despite the kit that is delivered to more elite units.
General units seem to place self preservation above conserving momentum and aggression where required.
The performance of israeli mechanised units boils down to whether or not they're allowed to flatten all nearby structures, and have the ammunition to do so.
They can't clear complex terrain effectively, but technically have the firepower to simplify said terrain. How many die will directly be determined by purse strings and morale alone.
The native training and equipment of units, despite being less than stellar, is superior to palestinian forces in all areas with the exception of CQB/house to house, where palestinian aggression moves to win.
If kikes go the hard bulldozer route, victory is assured. The more buildings they preserve, the larger their losses.
No clue what will happen
praying for the destruction of Israel of course
1 Hamas video with red triangles showing an RPG hit the side of a tank. Immediately cuts to not show if the tank was actually taken out.
1000 more videos of slaughtered Gazan's
I think it will be a draw.
I’d say they’re pretty well matched on a racial level. They’re smart, about as fanatical and brave as the brown Semites, what they lack in physical endurance they make up for with intelligence and organization. Organization level is very high but I have heard Israelis tend to have a secondary system of social ranking that colors their formal ranking.
For example a Corporal could circumvent the orders of his sergeant if the corporal is personal friends or related to the unit Captain- no idea if it’s true.
It will be important to see what tactics work and don’t work and what we could learn in case we need to fight a modern military using minimalist guerrilla tactics.
Gaza will be interesting because we will test the hypothesis of the patriotards who think muh guns can save them.
Israel is going to ethnically cleanse Gaza. I predict they will be much more successful than previous encounters as they will no longer abide by typical rules of engagement. It will be a state of total war against a people. Which is what would happen if Miganigas took up arms against whatever shitlib follows Trump.
My official prediction:
decisive Israeli victory
Gazans go extinct
Israeli technical, tactical, and organizational superiority carry the day against a determined, entrenched, fanatical defender
I would be very surprised if Gaza lasted till the end of the year if Israel does in fact go in with the intent to wage war against the people and not typical sporadic pockets of Hamas fighters.
I don’t like Israel btw. But I won’t cope and say they’ll lose to a vastly outgunned opponent.
At least Russia had to face 2mn soldiers, 16,000 armoured vehicles(before NATO donations) including 1800 tanks, 400 aircraft, drones, artillery, missiles, 32 nations of support,real time intelligence and proxy actions across the largest country in Europe(behind Russia itself) in literally the second most fortified place on earth behind only the DMZ in Korea. It's still won every battle for 2 1/2 years now and inflicted catastrophic defeats on their enemies.
Israel has no fucking excuse not to have fully crushed a tiny enclave with no airforce, no heavy vehicles, no modern capabilities, no advanced weapons, no real time intelligence etc.
It's actually really embarrassing for Israel. Yeah they pulled off a masterclass intelligence assassination mission spree across the region last year but that's not actual war.
The only people paying attention to this stuff on October 6th were
everyone on this fucking site except for you, apparently
brainless fucking bitch
they're called 'hit and run' tactics for a reason, not 'hit and stand'. Its embarrassing israel cant annex 141 square miles of land with infinite weapons and money.
Its even more embarrassing that satanyahu is only sacrificing israel to keep himself out of jail for just a bit longer. Without this conflict, hes fucked
Bro it'll be the end. The church scene is fucking terrible.
I literally forgot about the UN kitchen guys who got bombed. Whatever happened for that ? Did they live and did the country whose people they were respond ?
The more buildings they preserve, the larger their losses.
Other way around.
In 2004 Fallujah the Americans gave an evacuation orders for 7 days for the Iraqis to move out of Fallujah before thier assault. Iraq is a large place, and they can return after the conflict.
The IDF tried the same formula for a different equation in Gaza. pushing the population internally within the strip and not outside the battlespace.
If a civilian population is displaced from an apartment block, and its empty. The residents couldn't organically resist Hamas for using their home as a fighting position.
Which was the >correct American argument to not enter Gaza in the first place, it'll drive up recruitment for resistance if homes are levelled by the occupying force.
Now if that apartment block is levelled and blocks few streets. It doesn't disable the tunnels underneath from use.
The difficulty in navigation for the IDF compounds because the manoeuvring in strip become dynamic and changes daily with airstrikes and difficult for heavy machinery to negotiate. so dozers to have to clear new paths, which become easy targets and have to constantly be monitored and isn't immune from ambush.
Adding, Merkavas arent designed for close quarters, rendering the trophy system useless, lest they harm friendly forces with its use. They couldn't do both.
So RPG teams had easy pickings
IDF denied for months that Yassins penetrated the tanks and caused casualties while they slapped on cope cages.
Sniper teams hunted down commanders in week-long operations.
They booby trapped buildings identified from soldier's twitter posts.
IED ambushes set up in supposedly secured roads, left dormant for days.
All these ambushes sprung from the rubble.
Which is now why starvation is used.
Israelis can only fight from the air
they'll get slaughtered on the ground
It doesn't disable the tunnels underneath from use
Then you haven't dropped enough bombs.
All these ambushes sprung from the rubble.
They don't come from gravel.
If a civilian population is displaced from an apartment block, and its empty. The residents couldn't organically resist Hamas for using their home as a fighting position.
You're a nigger.
Then you haven't dropped enough bombs.
Highest concentration bombing in human history, and they still can't hold a spit of land the size of Malta.
I accept your concession btw. ;)
fight from the air
fight
jej