What are the political implications

of Gnosticism being 100% accurate?

I look like that when I crossdress

none
wtf do you think a politician can do about it

that we are fucked

you cross dress?

Gnosticism is a death cult spread by glowniggers and trannies to encourage depopulation

found the yaldeboath

Gnosticism is intentionally too obtuse in a way that is counterproductive to spreading truth. That said, it is correct about the lyin-flyin time snake

no bro seriously the elites are actually unkillable demons so dont even try to fight them

no dont have white children youre just going to bring more about suffering

DEFINETLY dont try to improve your situation in any way, its all pointless so juat give up goyim- I mean guys

Show us which gnostic group believed all that

gnostics are just the christians that were left out of empire and society building and they have been mmalding ever since.
yes the demiurge is real.
but we need to placate him and dig our escape tunnels in secret.
the wisest always act like they are none-the-wiser.

the implication is that we live in a loosh farm simulation matrix controlled by 5D entities and the findings done by remote viewers are mostly true, life continues after death but our memories are wiped forcing us to an illusory cycle of rebirth and suffering and also the implications of this latter truth is that everything is mental first and physical later and so there is truth to such memes as law of attraction/manifestation, and unironically it is you who bring suffering upon yourself and it is you as well who can bring heaven upon yourself simply by taking control of your mind first, physical suffering is of course unavoidable but when you understand your are the perceiver, not the mind or the body, everything starts to shift.

You clearly don’t have ears to see.

Gnosticism is fag tier Christ cuck apologetics.

muh Demiurge is the reason Im an autistic troon

At least pagans own the fact that they are homosexuals so they can eat semen in peace.

gnosis is the only way to save your soul from this hellish world. the reason it's rejected by the masses is because there is no easy checklist of actions you need to take. the path forward is entirely unclear and it's impossible to share through language
if only you knew what i know

The ones on Anon Babble

That doesn't change the fact that this dead cult was resurrected for a specific purpose; namely, demoralization and depopulation

I've got a dick that fucks

So you’re an uneducated retarded faggot loaded with anti gnosis memes. Got it

Politically speaking God hacked the demurgis reality matrix and installed Jesus.exe as root . Ever sense then we've amused ourselves by vaulting over the wall of heaven, redeeming souls, and watching the sim get better every re run.

The primary distinction between the Gnostics (overt or covert) and the worshippers of YHWH lies in their relation to the physical universe, and their conception of its purpose and ultimate value. Both see the physical universe as fallen, but the Gnostics see it as fallen ontologically, as a sort of mistaken existence with no chance to be anything BUT fallen, inherently. The Yahwists believe the physical world is a valid expression of the spiritual world, and was created Good by a God who was perfectly Good. It is presently fallen, but so are countless spiritual creatures and principalities. It isn't physicality which is fallen, or which causes one to fall, but disobedience from God; and this disobedience can be committed by both matter and spirit, and this fallen state is corrosive to both matter and to spirit.

Ultimately, Yaldabaoth is intended as a version of YHWH who is subservient to a Super God, but their purported traits do not remotely correspond. Ultimately, Gnostics are (literally) a death cult, who want to escape everything that makes them human in order to become... what? Disembodied spirit? Beyond all description and beyond all restriction? Totally perfect potentiality with zero actuality whatsoever? Something which is never anything, because being something would prevent them from potentially being anything else?

Gnosticism is the genesis of all fakeness and gayness.

Based thread. Most people are NPCs and gnosticism is the ONLY belief system that fully explains why.

And you think tranimefags are the ascended ones? But that just makes you, jewish

Things are only getting worse and worse with no change to this downward trajectory in sight. And that includes the prospect of even finding a woman that's wife material and that won't team up with the system to ruin your life and take your kids from you.

There's a (corrupted) Gnostic element to Mormon theology, and even to their doctine about marriage. However in the OG Gnostic cults you were getting married to your soul and that was the biggest mystery, not some roastie that you stay with in Heaven. Gnosticism (and Hermeticism at large) also have massive οverlap with autogynephilia, a bunch of nerdy guys with long hair doing rituals to integrate their anima (nice synchronicity with anime there).

How tf do you even connect Hermeticism with Autogynephilia?

Gamo to spiti sou.

You're supposed to troon out at some point

Be serious anon. Stop projecting your fantasies.

gnosticks are pretentious retards

gnosticism is a bunch of early christianity beliefs.
There is no single GNOSTIC faith, stop being a pseud and believing in everything you read online.
The demiurge can go fuck itself though

how can you "love Christ and hate the world" while at the same time denying everything Christ said and building your own religion, which is the most worldly and egotistical thing you can do?

Oooh. NGMI

Okay, Hylic. Enjoy your next cycle.

oGnosticism being 100% accurate?

how would you know, schizo faggot?
pro tip: you don't
also kys

muh buzzwords

Kys

My points stand. Your religion achieves nothing but encouraging whites to voluntarily depopulate.

We are ALL going to make it.

No it doesn’t. You have no idea what you’re talking about and you already made that clear, kek.

that is some homosexual

understand history and how Rome speaks and that creature cannot be allowed around my organs

He posts the same exact meme in every thread. Might as well be a bot

You’re high enough iq to see mainstream religion as the fairytales they are, but still lack the necessary courage to face the truth of your anxiety.

We are clearly designed to be body and soul. The idea that we're trapped in a flesh prison is ridiculous.

No

Would explain why the jews keep winning.

Are gnostics Christian’s? I get confused sometimes because apparently Yahweh is the demiurge

It isn't that you don't believe in God. It's just that you're lying to yourself

is there any actual Gnostic that has escaped reality?

Only Marcion. He was the first redpilled guy in history

They are not christian, they think that that christ is one consciousness from a part of an super-divine gestalt that came down to our broken and mis-shapen world.
The reason Yaldabaoth is evil varies sometimes, but the going idea is that the original super-divinity-gestalt was breeding it's composite consciousnesses with male and female counterparts, and Yaldabaoth was born from only one divine consciousness.
He tried to imitate his mother but failed, and his corrupted half-nature made him evil and retarded.
The gnostic telling of the old testament and new would be more convincing if I didnt know more about the bible and the historical accounts around it

here's a reasonably good explanation
youtube.com/watch?v=imiAXNnzkAc&t=302s

Enjoy the eternal absence of God, by your own choice. (you can't)

yeah waddup im stuck in this computer tho

Yaldabaoth saw it fit to make me fat, bald, ugly, and stupid. I won't stop my rebellion until he, his Archons, and the material world are completely annihilated.

What are the political implication of this thread yet again? Jesus gave us an out. Take it.

try to escape from the Demiurge

becomes slave of the God Machine

kek

the implication is that we live in a loosh farm simulation matrix controlled by 5D entities and the findings done by remote viewers are mostly true

I'm inclined to agree

Any gods that exist are obviously evil.

youtube.com/watch?v=AZYWOzRF1yA
youtube.com/watch?v=xC0HnTYu_OI

this is so dumb and over analyzing.

Gnosticism is what it literally puts itself out there as. They believe there is a spiritual world where our Angels govern us, and that the angel that took over is evil and is keeping us trapped.

this is what Jesus says in the bible. He claims that the pharisees, the jewish priests are keeping humans out of heaven, and that their god is a devil and a liar.

this god is metatron, who jewish texts explicitly explain uses the same name as YHWH.

TL;DR There is one true god, jesus comes from him, and the old testament God when acting evil is generally just metatron being evil.

One possibility is there were archons tasked with improving the world, but the archons failed.

benthams.substack.com/p/the-archon-abandonment-theodicy

If there’s a God, why do so many horrible things happen? Why has the last nearly billion years of history been filled with animals suffering and dying—through predation, starvation, and disease—rarely in ways that seem to achieve any greater goods? Why would a God of limitless power never have intervened throughout the course of this horrendous process?

In my view, the most promising explanation comes from my friends Brian Cutter and Philip Swenson. This theodicy is a work in progress, and no doubt there are more details to be figured out. But in my view, it is the most plausible account of why God would allow such horrendous things to go on for so long.

The short idea: there are archons (angel or demonlike creatures) tasked with making this world very good. In order to do so, they’d need to work together and carry out a difficult task. However, the archons have failed—most likely they didn’t even try to make the world very good.

Why does the world look so callous and indifferent to our welfare? Because the creatures tasked with making it not indifferent to our welfare failed. The seeming indifference of the world is, on this picture, no more mysterious than an abandoned house looking run-down.

Now you might wonder: why the heck would God set up such a scheme? Why would he make it so that if the archons abandon us, the world has such horrendous evil? Cutter and Swenson answer: connection-building.

Suppose that you rescue someone from a burning building. You do it at great personal difficulty and risk to yourself. You seriously might have failed. Ultimately, this heroic act will forge a kind of connection between you and the person that you saved. They’ll see you as a hero, and your relationship with them will be stronger than it ever could have been otherwise.

Reminder that Gnosticism is heretical nonsense.

TL;DR There is one true god, jesus comes from him, and the old testament God when acting evil is generally just metatron being evil.

This is the devil marrying a truth to a lie. But a half-truth is still just a lie.
Your eternal home will be the outer darkness, lest you repent. God made the earth Good, and will remake it perfected.

he unironically supports the Vatican in the alleged year of 2025

where does Christ decry Yaldaboth

pic related

where does christ decribe sophia plight

pic related.

where does Jesus discuss pleroma

multiple times, pleroma is just heaven anon, its not heresy to have a different name for a location

Pic is not remotely related.
You are deceived, and so become deceiver.
When the Kingdom comes, it will come here.

pic related has jesus calling the Jewish God the devil

Pic related has Jesus saying that human souls come from the same higher realm he comes from

stay mad fag, guys like you don't have any answers so they just post images that make themselves feel mind bending.

let in the rapefugees and take the damn vaccine!

All of the elite are Luciferian gnostics.
It's the reason why they are pushing so hard for simulation theory.
They want humanity in a perpetual state of materialism to appease the Demiurge.

Gnostics don't worship the demiurge, they worship Jesus and want to escape the demiurge.

its the pharisees who serve the demiurge and want things to stay this way as long as possible.

Shut the fuck faggot you are just quoting bullshit from helena blavatsky

That's why I said Luciferian gnostics.
They think of Lucifer as the actual promethean archetype. The true messiah. The primordial archon. All that jazz.

Still doesn't make sense anon, Lucifer is just Jesus.

Jews:

Hate all other people

their gods are all devils

therefore Satan is just the leader of the other nations Gods

jesus is the leader of the other nations.

the only other possible meaning you can have is new testament lucifer, who is just metatron, which means you're just describing Judaism. You're just using buzz words to sound new world order bullshit.

No, this is literally what's in the mythic texts, read them.

I agree that God is real. I agree that man made institutions inevitably become corrupted. I don't necessarily agree about Jesus being the one and only messiah. In my humble opinion, if he existed (how sure can we be that any of the figures of history actually existed or existed as they are presented to us in recorded history?) he was a spiritually developed being and attempted to uplift other souls within creation and imperfect beings fudged up his attempt along the way as they tend to.

(how sure can we be that any of the figures of history actually existed or existed as they are presented to us in recorded history?)

if two opposing sides tell basically the same story, wouldn't that prove its validity?

Like if Jesus was said to die in 30AD, and the jews were said to lose gods forgiveness from the yom kippur ritual in 30AD, wouldn't that at least lay down a solid brick in the idea that there was a jesus?

and if the jewish talmud also said that they killed a yeshua of nazrene on passover, wouldn't that make it more likely the story was true?

and if both agree this figure was a divine being that had incarnated, as they say jesus is an incarnation of satan/Samael, wouldn't that make it possible angels are real?

especially since they already describe what Jesus would do to them in the old testament? where the accuser comes down to incite israel to sin, and then ascends to heaven to show God their sins?

Gnosticism is babbies first heresy.

We must escape our flesh!

No, we must deny our flesh. The flesh is in a fallen state but someone with the Holy Spirit can easily deny the sinful temptations it desires. Thinking you can't is peak gnosticism. "Noooo i can't do nofap! it's too hard! Darn you demiurge!"

Le demiurge is why the world sucks!

No, the world doesn't suck. The world is beautiful and amazing, you suck and can't see the forest through the trees. There is suffering in the world, yes, because the Bible says God has allowed Satan to temporarily rule this world. It's not a demiurge, it's God separating the wheat from the tares.
I have yet to meet a gnostic that actually has gnosis. They will cope and seethe at posts like mine the same exact way that weed/porn addicts kvetch when someone calls them out.

Pope Francis was a heretic and I'm glad that faggot is dead.

because the Bible says God has allowed Satan to temporarily rule this world. It's not a demiurge, it's God separating the wheat from the tares.

literally that's what Gnosticism says too.

The Jewish God is the demiurge, as is the Catholic church.

youtube.com/watch?v=6vlR-qWb6uY

youtube.com/watch?v=j800SVeiS5I

>pic related has jesus calling the Jewish God the devil

It was not. This is a lie (intentional)

>Pic related has Jesus saying that human souls come from the same higher realm he comes from

God in Heaven created them, yes. Clearly.

>guys like you don't have any answers so they just post images that make themselves feel mind bending.

The head of the serpent will be crushed underfoot.

Most jewish post I’ve seen in a while, good one Schlomo.

No it doesn't. Gnosticism replaces God with the demiurge.
Originally demiurge was proposed by philosophers not as a mindless or an evil entity, but as an archetype of a creator.
Gnostics corrupted this concept.

Gnosticism was commonly practiced by Christ-rejecting jews and pushed on Christians by the same antichrist jews as a way to divert them from the truth.
Gnostism is basically repackaged Kabballah.

I'm not a Christian or a Gnostic or well versed in the Bible/Torah/Talmud. I think it's probable that he existed and if the teachings attributed to him are actually his that they contain valuable insight and historical significance. I'm just saying that I personally can't be certain on these matters. We can see how TPTB are currently twisting and distorting the historical record, so it makes sense to me that people in the past would be intelligent enough to do the same thing. I do think Jesus has been a useful model of a spiritually developed being for people to imitate and has done good for this world through his actions and teachings and there will always be people that will twist his attempt and use it spread wickedness. It's complicated and I'm just a limited imperfect being. I'm not God or omniscient, after all.

Not even close, Schlomo. Gnosticism is the opposite of jewry. Creatures like you (jews) hate Gnosticism because there’s nothing you all hate more than truth.

but what did that guy say, exactly, to make you call him evil, and say he's going to Hell? i don't think he said anything bad.

Total lies by a terrified jew. They come into Gnostic threads for 15+ years kvetching harder than they do about any other topic, lying about anything and everything. Truly there is no other topic that scares them more.

that's it, you're going to hell too

It changes Nothing. And besides true gnosticism can only happen for the individual, it cannot be compiled into a book and such without killing itself and spawing/ corrupting already existing religions.
In this way it seems satanic to the Abraham boy dick choper/sucker

indivi-dual, such a mind fuck language.

You tell me, also reminder she is trying to do her best.

this is the anticipated response, but i didn't think it would come from a 1pbtid

why were all the gnostic texts supposedly authored 200-300 years after their alleged authors had passed away?

You’re wrong, maybe you’re thinking of Aleister Crowley/Helena Blavatsky and their Satanic jewish corruption of the word “Gnostic” and “Gnosticism”, for the purpose of attempting to further erase Gnosticism like the jews have been trying to do for many thousands of years.

Life itself is gnosis. Life is the lesson. Through suffering we return to the Pleroma. The urge to escape the Demiurge’s prison increases the more we endure his torture.

Sammy STFU... Don't make me call mum. She will be pissed.

Sometimes you gotta stop the lurk to do the funny

That's what I tend to think. Some are enamored with the world and others world weary. The more world weary ones tend to be the ones that start down the path.

Gnosis as in what the greeks and others talked about long before Christianity came along. The solar awakening into pure nous.

jewish fairy tales but for people who are depressed lol

God is bad

my God is actually better than your God

These collections of sayings, mythologies, allegories, and their many slight variations across cultures all over the world and across recorded history, are based on knowledge that is older than even the first recorded civilizations, and were kept safe in different forms over the many years. This group of keepers of knowledge were the original Gnostics, who have existed for tens of thousands of years and beyond. Whether those stories were either physically written or originally written either then or further back is irrelevant considering they are even older than either option. What’s important is to actually read the Gnostic texts, which quickly shows people exactly why jews and the Church don’t want anyone reading them.

Ancient Greek Philosophy synthesized with "Jewish fairy tails" would probably be more accurate. You are somewhat right about the depression part since it can heighten suffering.

Maybe with that knowledge, you can get rich serving the demiurge his loosh more efficiently.

More lies about Gnosticism by people either ignorant or subversive.

Is it incorrect to say Gnosticism draws from both Ancient Greek and Jewish mysticism?

Yes, it is much older than either. Jewish mysticism has nothing to do with Gnosticism. Crowley/Blavatsky (literal Satanic puppets) have been trying to corrupt the meaning of “Gnosticism” since the 1800s. The attempted corruption of Gnosticism by the “hidden hand” has always been prevalent.

What would you say is more accurate then? The Ancient Mystery Schools? I'm not a scholar and simply trying to have an earnest discussion here.

What are the political implications of you spamming this shitass thread daily

Jews sold people Christianity (a solution to a problem that didn't exist for non-jews) so they could sell you gnosticism (a poisoned solution) for the non-existent problems they created.
Essentially: the Hegelian dialect of mental freedom.
This is why neither should be respected.

Play caveman games; win caveman prizes.

Sage
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The original mystery school was Gnosticism, but the term “mystery school” as used loosely today has certain connotations that I wouldn’t apply to Gnostics, such as a high focus on ritual, initiations, even magic. Gnostics were not highly ritualistic. Even the slightly more ritualistic sects over the centuries were far, far less ritualistic than any modern religions. Gnostics understood the nature of reality and humanity. They understood what “magic” was and how to use it, but to them it was not something to be “used”, just understood. What they did experience was completely different from magic - Gnosis - direct downloads of knowledge. They had the utmost respect for the world, and humanity. It’s a common misconception to say that they hated or renounced the world, the opposite is true actually. They understood the nature of the world but did not hate it. As far as initiation procedures, it would depend on the sect.

Gnosticism is simply early Christianity before the Bible was made canon. Retard midwit pseuds don’t realize there were many different gnostic groups that believed different things. Nu/pol/ is cancer.

Gnosticism replaces God with the demiurge.

No it doesn't, Jesus still comes from the one true God, the demiurge is just metatron.

I look like that

cross and dress

Interesting. Do you know if renunciation of the world & life-denialism misconceptions originate from Vatican propaganda? From my limited understanding of the history the Vatican was basically looking for any excuse to slaughter the Cathars and found/made one up and did so. I wouldn't put it past them to wage a propaganda campaign against them.

Christianity is a literal death cult trying to bring about the end times (by working with jews)

Gnosticism is the flat earth of religions.

The Vatican was(is) only one arm of the spider, but yes you’re right, that lie and countless other lies about Gnostics came from the Church and many other sources. Gnosticism was what they were scared of the most, and still are. Like you said, during the Albigensian Crusade, they were willing to go to any lengths (such as staging the murder of the papal legate Pierre de Castelnau as a false flag and cassus belli to genocide all Cathars). This lead to events like the massacre at Beziers when Arnaud Amalric was asked how they would find the ~200 Cathars in Beziers among the ~10,000+ Catholics, he said “Kill them all, God will know his own.” Which really shows how badly they needed to eliminate all Cathar influence.

Finally some decent discussion on Gnosticism

If you actually read Blavatsky, instead of using her as a boogie man, you'd she most of her philosophy was Gnostic adjacent or literally just Gnostic. She vehemently hated the jews.

playing games

talking with metatron

random anon talking about metatron

I happended to HAVE to see it

The God of the universe is my wife. I fuckign tell you.

god not real lmao

I'll accept the demiurge if she's a cute girl.

I’ve read her The Secret Doctrine and Isis Unveiled, besides reading parts of several of her other books, and many other contemporary writings concerning her and her beliefs, and she was intentionally attempting to corrupt Gnosticism. For you to believe that her philosophy was simply “Gnostic adjacent or sometimes just Gnostic” shows that in my opinion, you either don’t understand Gnosticism, her writings, or both. She’s just a shill that mixes in truth with lies like her predecessors, her friends, and her successors.

you have my attention. continue.

What findings? You're talking like you're on Anon Babble wn

Yes, as someone who has read Blavatsky she is part of the luciferean new age agenda crafted by the Masonic zionists of her time that is culminating today in the world.

she was intentionally attempting to corrupt Gnosticism

Such as? I've read both books as well. Theology is Gnostic with eastern ties because her entire goal was to go as far back to see where it all connected.

Theology

Theosophy*

Few things are more jewish. Although early gnosticisms were at least engaged in theurgy and mystery cults. Nothing laid the groundwork for judeanified Christianity winning out over other sects like the Gnostics.

i would literature recommendations to dig deeper, honestly

The ones on Anon Babble

Those are not gnostics.
Those are jews.

jews want you to not resist.
It is the whole reason they back Christianity in modern times as well.

Resistance is pointless. (You), as a mortal, will never be able to resist the storm.

What are the best intro texts for Gnosticism then?

I have to try to get some sleep. Thanks for the brief but interesting discussion. It's nice to know there are still actual anons here.