SCIENCE KILLS NASA's LIES MODEL

Yet another nail in the coffin of the standard model.

Inb4 show me the FE model

At this point we only know that the mainstream model is a lie

Now from the people who brought you "the holocaust didn't happen", "nazis were socialists", and "germ theory was fake", comes "FLAT EARTH". You guys are really doing this thing? Cuz I have been seeing more and more of it lately. It's on its way up in terms of how much youre focusing on shilling it on the far right.

Please debunk the webm, thanx

Every photo is obvious cgi

I am not going to debunk your webm anon. Simply put, I am not going to. And yet we will all wake up tomorrow and the Earth will be round still. Even if you convince people its flat we'll all still be living upon the round Earth.

I'm not going to lie to you frendo, I have no idea what this means or is supposed to imply, that the earth must be flat because it should have a thicker crust to keep from flying apart in a nearly 0g environment? you may be aiming over the board's head

Shills are absolutely bombarding the board tonight...why?
Anyway, you're a retard. KYS.
Herbed and tattling.

You don't know that my dude. You haven't seen the curvature, you obviously can't prove it with math so basically you just believe some people - the people who tell you men are women, vaccines are safe and effective, immigration is good, Jews are persecuted for no reason at all but Christians are bad and so on

Earth is 4x larger then the moon

Actually it's the same size in the sky

If you look at these 2 photos and don't think there's something wrong then you're a goyim cattle beast and the Jews are right.

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Jews are persecuted for no reason at all but Christians are bad and so on

is this guy white or jewish

No it means spinning Earth is impossible.
Maybe it's round but stationary or something but it's not what they tell us, it just doesn't work. The math I mean

I do know that the Earth is flat. Yes. I do. JFC your head is so full of MSM and big tech programming.

I'd say white but that's a painting from like 1800s, you can bet 100% he didn't look like that

I do know that the Earth is flat. Yes. I do. JFC your head is so full of MSM and big tech programming.

Round I mean. Not flat. FFS. FFS whatever.

it just doesn't work. The math I mean

yeah you're shooting over the boards' head, and if you've got no explanation beyond that, then it's intentional

It's the newest form of purity spiralling on the right. You have to believe the most retarded conspiracy imaginable or you are a disloyal shill.

Lol, Freudian slip.

It means the earth is an orange, not an apple.

not bad if an evasion
but ignore the pic and focus on him in the bible, and the fact Jesus is a direct descendant

thank god for the people with bants left

would not gravity hold the earth together? "if earth was the size of a golfball" but earth is not the size of a golf ball

the thinking goes that mass vs distance is the only real thing keeping any of it together, or keeping shit like us getting sucked in by the sun's enormous mass from happening

If the earth was a golfball

if ur mum had wheels she'd be a bike, and I'm not talking about a figurative neighborhood bike either

The people who make these images are either retarded or trolling. mph is not a measure of rate of rotation. The earth spins at 0.000694 RPM.

the sun's enormous mass

seriously kardashev was a retard because there's not even enough matter in the rest of this star system period to build anything to capture 100% of the star's energy, and what the fuck would you even need that kind of power for

Look, the spinning apple which is far more solid and with a thicker, more consistent skin/crust falls apart yet the Earth with thinner, patchy crust that floats on molten lava that has the consistency of ice cream is spinning at 1000mph for 4.5B years and stays together. Literally can't

because the apple is on earth, so is attracted way more to the earth's mass than itself

Where is the center of gravity ?

It flew up not down though.
Also gravity is an unproven hypothesis, any effect of gravity can be explained with buoyancy

Flerfers are just incapable of understanding scale or magnitude. Flat earth is supposed to be an actual, satirical joke, but too many grifters convinced too many dumbfucks, and now we have people who literally think we live on a giant pizza made 6000 years ago, and that shape shifting lizard Jews have been hiding that space is fake and gay all this time so they can rape and eat your children.

The golf ball and apple aren't being pulled into shape by the force of their own gravity, what kind of retarded bullshit is this? You really are fucking stupid.
Or just a well poisoning shill to discredit all "conspiracy theories". "Anti-vaxer? You probably think the earth is flat too"

Classic jewish false by association tactics. Those things are all true and are not associated with the flat earth fed well poisoners. Please leave.

Can u give me more infographics abt it thanks

Why would "gravity" form a ball though
It's buoyancy btw, gravity is BS concept invented to justify fake astronomy

Goddamn you faggots are retarded.
Guess which of those three sphere-like objects has enough mass to produce measurable amounts of gravity?
Now, which of your other two gay spherical objects has been put in a gravimetric compression field of sufficient strength to mimic the effect of said gravity on the the structural integrity of the item?

Yeah. Thought so.
Fucking Faggot Tards.

Aren't we supposed to throw faggots like you off buildings so you can learn whether gravity is real?

It flew up not down though.

in the terms of comparison you're making the proper direction would be "apart", since that's what you're suggesting the earth should be doing, since it's in space, but it's not, since the mass of the core is keeping the rest of itself together
what keeps the core together? fuck if I know, magnets, how do they work? what's at the center of the core? what's at the barycenter of the universe for that matter? a massive white hole that spits out the atomic matter the black holes suck up like drains because something something quantum entanglement?
you can't personally disprove it, so I'm right, right?

Hello glowniggers

Gravity is a cope, buoyancy explains all the effects of gravity
If the building was in the water nothing would happen though, so much for your "gravity"

The earth spins at literally 1 rotation per DAY.

meds

Imagine genuinely believing that airplanes waste billions of dollars on fuel every day to perpetuate the myth of a round earth and not because it actually saves everyone time and money.

not to mention the fact that you would need literally every commercial airline pilot in on the conspiracy

smartest Croatian

since the mass of the core is keeping the rest of itself together

The mass of the allegedly solid core is 1.8 % of the Earth's mass so how the fuck would that attract the other 98.2%
At 1000 miles per HOUR

What is the Apples skin made out of?
What is the Earths crust made out of?

New flat earth retardation content just droped? You guys are like these 1950s computers incapable of caluclating more than 1 variable at a time. NPCs have more detailed programmed AI than you.

The first 2 examples are also being affected by Earth’s gravitational pull as they are spinning.

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ok so think of dominoes, but in reverse

Earth's crust is made of disjointed patches of rock and dirt, floating on molten lava (basically liquid). Rock is harder but more brittle.
Apple's skin is organic but relatively much thicker and it rests on a solid mantle all the way so it's altogether far more consistent

Wat if the Earth is an apple pie

What's to debunk? Why would the earth just break apart from having a thin crust and liquid mantle?

You can prove curvature with basic pythagorean theorem. Bonus points for unit circle. All extremely basic shit.

Earth's gravity is significantly stronger than the centripetal force from the earth's rotation, the crust isn't holding the earth's contents in the contents are preventing the crust from sinking

needs a "and this is how we will defeat the jews" at the end

flatards don't believe in gravity so it's not affected by it, nor is the earth not affected by it's own gravity which is holding it together

flatards used to be a larp same as mlp and qanon to fuck with people on these boards but a bunch of facebook boomers somehow got into the taiwanees basket weaving forums and started believing it unironically

Because it's a much weaker construction than the one of the apple and the apple broke apart, duh

the apple broke apart due to the centrifugal force overcoming it's own tensile strength.

the earth spins much slower, and has stronger gravity. also the earth is rounder so the force is more even without weak spots.

a bunch of facebook boomers somehow got into the taiwanees basket weaving forums and started believing it unironically

bro it's actually so much worse
this is the youth

...You didin't answer my question though? What, as in what MATERIAL, are the Earths Crust and Apples Skin made out of?

Please use google translate into Croation if you are having trouble understanding my question written in english.

Gravity is a made up "force" that can be full replaced with buoyancy. They even admit they don't know how gravity works.
Even if true, gravity doesn't have a center so why would it create a sphere

Gravity is a made up "force" that can be full replaced with buoyancy.

so the flat earth is floating on something now

The Earth's matter is held together by gravity, you absolute fucking mongoloid. Every bit of matter that is part of Earth attracts every other bit of matter that is part of Earth.

Whatever you need to tell yourself

the earth spins much slower

At 1000mph

and has stronger gravity

see my other posts for "gravity"

it was sarcasm. reading comprehension ?

Buoyancy doesn't make objects of different density sink at the same rate

You didin't answer my question though? What, as in what MATERIAL

I literally did answer

Please use google translate into Croation if you are having trouble understanding my question written in english.

Kek right back at you

NPCs accept Sphere Earth because the Establishment tells them it's true. They cannot explain why Sphere Earth is correct and don't understand it. They're just parrots.

Flat Earthers reject Sphere Earth because they are mentally deficient and unable to accurately evaluate evidence.

Both are subhuman.

national socialist

nazis were not socialists

Americans, everyone.

The earth spins at one rotation per 24 hours, to get the equivalent force for the apple it would also have to spin at that rate

Never underestimate retardation on some anonymous Mongolian Throat Singing Forum.

spinning apple and ball does not have massive gravity you retard

1pbtid enters the thread, is only compelled to make a statement on a conversation he wasn't even part of

accusing me of misinterpreting something he himself is misinterpreting

always pretty curious

So what is Earth shape then. A cube?
C'mon, enlighten us with your brilliance!

They even admit they don't know how gravity works.

We know exactly how gravity works. Scientists who say otherwise are grifters.

So what is Earth shape then. A cube?

C'mon, enlighten us with your brilliance!

Earth is a slightly oblate, slightly rough spheroid. For most practical purposes it is a sphere.

Duh.

You can observe the curvature of the earth just by watching clouds go over the horizon or lying on a beach at sunset snd jumping up to make the sun reappear

can't defend his position

gets mad at newcomer contradicting him

can't parse his position to plug into his formula to ridicule him

gets mad and begs for an opening

lmao

Gravity is the most powerful force in the universe and the only one that make existence possible. Without gravity you could not exist to question it and compare it to some bullshit buoyancy.

As usual, faggot, your science is bullshit, your logic nonexistent, and your ability to spin bullshit pilpul to try to get yourself out of the hole, completely lacking.

Go be a fag jew elsewhere.

At 1000mph

the earth is 12000km in diameter you retard. the earth completes one revolution every 24 hours while the apples revolves 10 times a second.

Correct.

Hello Mossad

"I literally did answer"

Oh really? Lets see what you wrote in answer to my question, 'what is Apple skin made out of'

"Apple's skin is organic"

...Thats it? Organic what? Literally every living thing is organic, is it made out of the same molecules as human skin? As Fish scales? Like what the fuck nigger?
Please answer my question.

Lets see what you wrote in answer to my question, 'what is Earths crust made out of'

"Earth's crust is made of disjointed patches of rock and dirt"

...That's it? what is that dirt made out of? Is it clay? Sand? What rocks are you talking about? Sandstone? Onyx? Diamons? Like what the fuck nigger.
Please answer my question.

Satan's simps invented this new religion called science in and around what they call 'the age of enlightenment'.
What started off as a retarded sci-fi cult has grown into the prominant religion of the western world to a point where anyone questioning it's legitimacy is ridiculed as a heretic.
Of that I'm sure however what I am unsure of is whether or not these lucifarians actually believe the shit they're shovelling or if this scientology tier space religion is just for the goys. And as we worship ourselves as spaceball fish monkeys they switch out their lab coats for black hoods and meet up in their synagogues and temples to worship the architect/creator of all things.
One clue lies in the fact that a masonic lodge will not recruit a new initiate unless they confess belief in a higher power

I'm not saying it's flat, I'm saying the standard model is provably false

The Earth's matter is held together by gravity

Debunked
Whatever "gravity" does buoyancy does too
If you scaled the Earth down but kept 1000mph it would rotate 2850 times per second

these are all wrong, theres no comparison between these objects in makeup, nor of materials, nor of the conditions in which they exist.

Not an argument, not a reasonable comparison considering we dont even have a full picture of how the universe is formed nor even of the structure of our own earth. We know literally the very bare facts.

the earth is 12000km in diameter

So? The entire of it still spins at 1000mph retard

Whatever "gravity" does buoyancy does too

So you accept the existence of gravity, you just prefer to call it buoyancy. Got it.

It's buoyancy but do tell

Fuck off with your satanic ball shit the world has always been flat and stationary like god intended cope and seethe

Wouldn't the fact that there is no air resistance in space have something to do with it not breaking apart?

NTA

Centrifugal force is inversely proportional to the diameter. Try taking a sharp turn at 60 km/h versus a curve kilometer long and see which shakes you more.

Muddying water mossad team.

I don't get it, care to explain?

Gravity is the most powerful force in the universe

According to physics it's the weakest force so you're pulling it out of your ass
It still spins at 100mph but you science zealots somehow try to pretend it's completely irrelevant

goyim cattle beast and the Jews are right.

Sadly I'm afraid this is true.

Pilpul

Now from the people who brought you "the holocaust didn't happen",

The king of all conspiracy theories is saying the Holocaust happened. It literally is the ultimate baseless conspiracy theory that stands above FLERF, germs, vaccines, etc. If you say the Holocaust happened, you are an insane tin fail hat nutjob.

"nazis were socialists"

Nazi means "National Socialist."

Not really because a helium balloon goes up even though it should go down since its mass is greater than the mass of an empty balloon
Gravity fails hard there

So you croation niggers are so stupid you think Apple skin is made out of the same material as human skin? After all they both are just made out of "organic"
God your race is stupid.

1000mph

You still need gravity acting on the regular air to force the less dense helium balloon up. Buoyancy is a side effect of gravity. So I guess you don't call buoyancy gravity, you just believe in gravity. I'm glad we cleared that one up.

Why is there water below ground? Ground is 10x more dense than water

Not its not, its forward momentum and acceleration, the energy from whatever it was that started it in motion (big bang or whatever) Has no dissipated, the real question is what happens> will it ever dissipate? what will happen it it indeed does dissipate, will it slow overtime when science says its excelerating is it mass only driving it or is it mass + positive and negative poles that drive it? Magnetic? How does it all fit together? no-one knows but we can guess, most theories are just best guesses with some provable facts to fill them out.

You scaled down the size, so why didn't you scale down the speed in the same ratio? Look bro, you get a lot of shit but i wish the best for you. Everyone is retarded at some point in their life.

So you're trying to compare an object spinning in a vacuum and a near frictionless environment that is not currently being made to accelerate. To objects that are in a dense gaseous environment(compared to outer space) that experiences friction and is actively being accelerated by the air. Yet you claim they hold any similarities besides being round and spinning. Interesting.

Earth isn't spinning fast enough to break apart.

You still need gravity acting on the regular air to force the less dense helium balloon up.

Lmao what cope is this ? The heavier thing goes up because the force that attracts masses somehow does this other thing to this third thing so the second thing goes in the opposite direction from the first thing ?
Kek
Because solid barriers can prevent effects of buoyancy just like they can prevent effects of gravity (why doesn't a thing suspended from a rope fall).
However, if you mix rocks and water the rocks will sink to the bottom

its forward momentum and acceleration, the energy from whatever it was that started it in motion (big bang or whatever)

You're making shit up now

Lmao what cope is this

You tell me mr. heavy things go down and light things go up but NOT because of gravity >:(. It's gravity, you admitted it already, you don't need to keep digging this hole.

You scaled down the size, so why didn't you scale down the speed in the same ratio

I did but I scaled the time down as well

Centrifugal force is inversely proportional to the diameter.

No it's not, retard.

Centrifugal force is directly proportional to the square of the object's speed and inversely proportional to the radius (or half the diameter) of the circular path

What now?

Earth will be round still.

Show curve or fuck of. All you need to do is show one pic of water curving around the ball. Two thirds of the ball is said to be curved so it should be easy.
No fish eye. No glass distortion. Just one honest pic of curved water.

It's gravity, you admitted it already

I didn't, you're desperate

Now you say it. Desperate.

Am I? no I'm just saying whats known mostly and the rest are questions, didnt you see the question marks or are you just dumb?

yeah but that is in the confines of earths environment.

Can anyone answer this?

That apple would fall apart in vacuum as well, probably sooner even

Anywhere north of Columbia, stars spin one direction with a center point
Anywhere south of Columbia, stars spin in opposite direction with a center point. So tell me, anon, why do the north and southern skies both have a center point?

This demonstratably true phenomenon cannot happen on a flat earth without saying "magic."

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How if there is no resistance against its rotation? Wouldn't that mean there is no (or very little) force being applied to it?

everyone saw you do it. It's fine, you can try again in the next thread.

If the earth was the size of a golf ball […] spinning 1000 miles per hour

Stop. Retard. That’s not how it works. The earth spins once per day. 1000 mph is nothing compared to its huge scale. When you scale the size down to that of a golf ball you have to also scale down the speed or else the physics becomes inaccurate.
An apple spinning once per day could easily stay together. This experiment is retarded and proves nothing

We know exactly how gravity works. Scientists who say otherwise are grifters.

We know the rules, kinda, we know the requirements, but we don't know why it works that way and the full picture is far from clear.

But you are absolutely btfod ops troll attempt and any 5th grade elementary school kid could have done the same.

but they claim the center is made of iron and it's liquid. Molten iron loses magnetic properties

Anyone notice the numerous 1pbtid globe shills coming in to back up the main globe shills? I noticed

Its 100% flat and space is fake and all that.

Did you see the french dude that did sailing competitions all his life across the oceans?

He found out timezones are fucked with, because obviously if the world is flat the round timezones wouldnt work, and turn out, they dont.

They compensate timezones in oceanic areas wherre there is no land or population so the fuckery doesnt get found out. I cant remember his name

some french dude i can't remember doesn't understand timezones

globers btfo how will they ever recover

he somehow still has the energy to deal with the fucking balltards

you're a better man than me, anon

so why would it create a sphere

Sphere minimizes gravitational potential energy.
If you have enough angular momentum, you end up with a disc instead.
Due to Earth's rotation, it's not a perfect sphere, it bulges a bit at the equator.

you have a point. a lot of them.
no you had it right the first time. foremost, we know its flat by looking at it and the horizon. what we don't know is that its a ball. thats not what we see.

i thought, according to the experts, that gravity would be the effect of the distortion of the fabric of spacetime due to the mass of an object. i think why science struggles to fully understand it is because perhaps its properties extend beyond the third dimension. we basically have a 2D representation of the distortion of spacetime but as for an omnidirectional visualization that would show the distortion around a spherical mass? what about astral bodies that don't have perfect symmetry or spherical shapes? does it have inconsistent and varying amounts of gravity?

the idea of dark matter or zero-point is pretty neat. or the idea of creating a localized field which can counter the distortion of spacetime, weakening or reversing the effects of gravity. apparently you'd need an insane amount of energy to do that. hence why we are still using traditional thrusters for rockets and not just floating shit into space.

which reminds me, gotta help poor Elon solve his heat shield issue. these idiots dont know how to do anything right.

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The centrifugal force is not enough to rip apart the Earth's crust and send it flying, for the same reason that it's not enough to fling you into space just from standing on the Earth's surface as it rotates. The force of gravity is stronger than the centrifugal force. Gravity is counteracted by the centrifugal force only up to 0.3% at the equator. It's enough to create an outward bulge of about 43km compared to the polar diameter, which seems like a lot, but is insignificant compared to the overall diameter of Earth.

But the earth IS flat. As flat as a very very large sphere.

NASA doesn't have a model?

Did some schizo really compare an apple to a planet?
Mental illness is rampant out there.

The Soviet Kola Superdeep Borehole was 7.6 miles deep.
Earth's crust is 9 to 12 miles deep, not 4.

Earth is not a golf ball or apple. Also gravity.

Gravity is only considered some wild mystery by dipshits who get grants to "study" it.

Gravity is fully described by simple mathematics. What it does is 100% understood. We don't know WHY* gravity is a feature of the Universe but we know exactly how it works.

* Obviously the answer is that God wanted a universe that isn't retarded, and the universe would be retarded without gravity.

you are a dumb nigger

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Did they drill in the ocean ? Look at the webm my dude

I have degrees in physics and chemistry, lol.

MUH GRAVITY RESEARCH is just a grift, just like a lot of other "fundamental" research done these days. The new version of the MUH STRING THEORY grift.

arguing from a point of authority is a fallacy
also, pics or it didn't happen faggot

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Memes aside though, why don't they make the shoes round if the earth is supposedly round

It's a shame eugenics have been vilified so much. If we had a sensible society that implemented eugenics then we could sterilize all the low IQ flatearthers (as if there's any other kind).

Flat earth theory is a CIA psyop. It was first promoted in 2014 on YouTube as a distraction from Catholic apologist Robert Sungenis' promotion of the geocentric model.

youtu.be/4QBOwvP5XiM?si=ElCh2Ex9Hcgp8K_V&t=678

arguing from a point of authority is a fallacy

I haven't made any arguments, retard. I stated several facts. The idea that gravity is some weird not-understood thing is bullshit pushed by people who are given free government money to "study" it.

Gravity is fully understood.

Now from the people who brought you "the holocaust didn't happen", "nazis were socialists", and "germ theory was fake", comes "FLAT EARTH".

No, its not the same people. The CIA didn't start disbelief in the holocaust narrative or the opinion that the nazi are socialists.

why don't they make the shoes round if the earth is supposedly round

The Earth is so massive in comparison to us that from our human perspective it might as well be flat, peabrain.

Why did they drill so close to funnland? Were they planning to fill the hole with TNT and break them off into an island?

Why are “falling stars” always falling, if the earth was round, you would be able to see stars “falling” upwards and from all directions, why do thhey always go down?

Holy shit what an utterly low IQ post.

"Falling stars" are meteors, you fucking retard. They're called "falling" because they literally are falling towards Earth's surface, except for the extremely rare one that enters the upper atmosphere but doesn't slow down enough to end up impacting the Earth and goes back out into space.

gravity is some weird not understood thing
how can there be gravity waves but no gravitons?
how can there be gravity AT ALL? why would all things attract each other?
why are gravitational fields not smooth (as evidenced by galactic rotation speeds)?
and so on

Falling stars are meteoroids burning up in our atmosphere... they're literally falling to Earth, that's why they always look like they're going "down."

You should be killed for being so stupid.

Why are for thousands of years the stars always act the same, the northstar always above the north. If we float through space around the sun and we twist on an axle flying and sucking eachother off. Why would the stars in the heavens stay on the exact same location all the time.

Its impossible.

After your last post I didn't even read this one, probably even dumber than the last.

Hence the “falling”
Why do you think your fictional meteors dont come from below? Since the earth is round and floating in space turning on its own axle, you should see your fictional meteors entering the fictional entry burn from all directions, but its not. They always fall down.

Can you understand that it makes no sense?

No I'm unable to read

70% of Earth's crust is under oceans and it's 4 miles thick
Literally in the webm

It's incredible that there's people out there who don't understand that the Earth does one full rotation a day. If that's hard to imagine, just take a golf ball and slowly spin it for 24 hours until it makes a full rotation.

The North Star changed 3,000 years ago, idiot.

I accept your consession

All of these "questions" are based on the idiotic assumption that gravity has to work the same way as electromagnetism.

It doesn't. That's all there is to it. Gravity doesn't need gravitons because it doesn't need gravitons. There is no deeper answer.

Virtually every physical phenomena concerning "gravity" can be effortlessly explained with density, at every scale and without abstract theories and hamfisted mathematics.

It didnt

You stupid fucking idiot

it just works the way it does because it does

that ain't an explanation, broheim
you're just as bad as Newton

I have got to say, most people hete are litteral programmed retards for not understanding the impossibility of “falling stars” always falling.

This can only happen on an stationairy earth that is flat

Shooting stars come from all directions, you dumb fuck. A meteor entering the atmosphere over Australia is "falling up" from my perspective in America.

You should be sterilized for retardation.

found the arabs

Shooting stars come from all directions, you dumb fuck. A meteor entering the atmosphere over Australia is "falling up" from my perspective in America.

No they dont, thats the whole point. Are you mentally challenged?

Also do you have evidence of falling stars shooting up?

Are these falling stars shooting up in the room with you right now?

They calculate tangential velocity and proclaim that's how fast earth rotates. They ain't even smart enough to understand tangents.

Explain density without gravity, I'll wait.

Mein Neger, the world may aswell be a test tube in some labratory, you're just a part of a bacteria studied by some entity whi, just like you, believes itself a sovereign in its own world, which, too, may just be another test tube in another labratory.

Gravity works the way it works because God decided it should work that way when He created the universe.

Your insistence that there has to be more to it is very Jewish. Jewish neurotics have taken over fundamental physics and obsessively think there must be "more to" everything, but sometimes there isn't. This is largely cultural neuroticism based on the shock at discovering quantum mechanics and quantum chromodynamics and relativity. But gravity doesn't have the sort of weirdness that electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces have.

Anybody who says it does is a grifter or a neurotic Jew who can't accept a universe where different forces have different mechanisms, or no mechanism other than merely being a feature of the Universe.

Saying "that's just the way it is" is something neurotic Jew scientists can't accept because it obviously points to God.

because God

I take that back, you're worse than Newton

Are you assiming you have a position to begin with?

To say your position doesn't hold water would imply that your position has SOME structure at all (it does not).

No they dont, thats the whole point. Are you mentally challenged?

Lmao he doesn't know

You do understand, that the conceptualization of density predates that of gravity, yes? Where do you think the concept of aether (and by proxy the earliest conceptions of electromagnetism) originates from? Energy density does not require a 'force that ackshully is not a force'.

I want to believe

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