What's the point of marriage from a man's perspective?

I totally understand the desire to get married for a woman since it's kind of a security for them (and it shows social status which they crave)

But when I tell my married friends that as a man I don't give a shit about getting married they get kinda upset (despite most of them being bitter and/or having cheated on their wife)

Imo having kids is the thing that matters, but I know some people who got married and don't even plan on having kids lmao

To give some context I am 30, I make good money (a family of 3 could decently live off of my salary) and I have a 23 year old gf

The entire point of marriage is to facilitate child-rearing by introducing financial entanglements for both parents designed to cultivate a more stable living situation for their offspring. That's it. There is absolutely no reason to get married if you don't plan on having kids.

men get married when they want children or when their long term gf threatens to leave if there is no ring within a year

uhhh whats my incentive durr durr

nigga YOUR gender invented marriage you tell me

What's the point of marriage from a man's perspective?

The point is you get to give her half your life savings and pay 1/3 of your monthly gross salary as ongoing alimony when she decides to cheat. Next question.

incel thread

actually u are the kike

u have a micropenis

white women are our greatest allies

youre a loser

not white!

you deserve it

women are ackshually mother goddess perfect beings

Noooo, go impregnate a feminist fuck anyway!!

That cover all the typical objections or are there more?

From the marriage cucks mind he thinks he'll have access to pussy 24/7. It might not be the best he every had or what she once was but it's his and he'll get to take it whenever he wants.

This is false. After the honeymoon phase of a year is over, if he shows any signs of weakness she'll withhold sex from him. Then she'll start cheating on him to have whatever needs he's not satisfying met. Tragic but true. Smart men don't get married.

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My wife is from higher class than me, it was only way up

YOUR gender invented marriage

Nope. Feminist groups and divorce law firm lobbyists wrote the current iteration of Family Law.

Well, when you are married she has to suck dick everytime you order it. So its pretty nice

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She’s basically your personal prostitute when she wears the ring.

They will always just go further back in time to continue blaming men
Like how they say lots of men have died childless for much of history
And then proceed to ignore the last 100 years of feminism and 15 years of ultra-feminism as new variables. It's all about blaming men and never taking responsibility for anything, ESPECIALLY not collectively.
Women are perfect mother goddesses, you know. Just don't notice that they hate motherhood, boyim.

It's a security thing for men too. Having no foid around causes them bad anxiety.

to secure your fuckhole.

It seems like a much smaller percentage of people marry today compared to the past. Among whites marrying seems to very much be a status symbol now, mostly upper middle class and up marry among whites. Among nonwhite immigrants people with even the shittiest jobs marry. The former type of marriage is a costly thing, involving a big party, and a court procedure and changing of public records. The latter type of marriage is basically just an exchange of words between the couple. Also something like half of the whites that marry eventually divorce, so the whole institution is worthless.

Fun fact:

Divorce rate for Orthodox Jews in the USA is 10%.

Divorce rate for the general population in the USA is 48%.

It's pretty funny to me that the feminism defense force rallies in any thread criticizing women in the slightest AND YET when asked about the benefits of literal marriage, the thing they claim to want, for men: fucking crickets. That alone says a lot.

Marriage the way it works today in the West has zero benefits for the man. It was different before no-fault-divorce laws and other aspects of feminism, then it actually had benefits for the man.

If you find a worthy woman you marry to formalize the soul binding and the seriousness of your commitment. Emphasis on "if"

They ˹instead˺ followed the magic promoted by the devils during the reign of Solomon. Never did Solomon disbelieve, rather the devils disbelieved. They taught magic to the people, along with what had been revealed to the two angels, Hârût and Mârût, in Babylon.1 The two angels never taught anyone without saying, “We are only a test ˹for you˺, so do not abandon ˹your˺ faith.” Yet people learned ˹magic˺ that caused a rift ˹even˺ between husband and wife; although their magic could not harm anyone except by Allah’s Will. They learned what harmed them and did not benefit them—although they already knew that whoever buys into magic would have no share in the Hereafter. Miserable indeed was the price for which they sold their souls, if only they knew!

the Quran 2:102

You bend your knees and ask her to ruin your life.

in order to bind our immortal souls in an act of extreme love,

let feminism and the law guide our marriage!

because you love me and want to bind souls in commitment, this should be NO problem for you

what limits do I have on MY behavior according to all of society for this soul bind?

well none, of course!

you're the man so because you love me, give me complete control teehee

despite most of them being bitter and/or having cheated on their wife)

You're black aren't you.

Basically this. Because I'm married I have more money for my kids and legal rights over them and their care (legally my wife or I couldn't do anything like a major surgery or something without the other's consent whereas if we weren't married she would have that exclusive right).

Sorry, that was the wrong translation. That translation omits "the children of Israel" while this translation has it:

And they followed [instead] what the devils had recited during the reign of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, "We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic]." And [yet] they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah . And the people learn what harms them and does not benefit them. But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew.

The quran is saying the children of Israel learned "that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife". Jews learned what increases the divorce rate, right there in the quran.

Women who actually love the man they're with don't want him to sign such an unfair and lopsided contract, so the entire concept is falling away.

What's the point of marriage from a man's perspective?

Its for SIMPS who are scared to death of
1) self image and status (noone cares)
2) obsessivly fearful of dying alone

Any man who marries, and I say this with the current state of things in mind in 2025, is throwing away control over his life for nothing.

It used to be women earned zero money, and divorce was only legal if you could prove that the other person had committed a serious wrong. Then it benefited man and woman. The man got a woman, who cooked, gave birth, took care of the children etc. The woman got the financial and other support of having a man. When women earn as much as men, or earn money at all, and you can divorce without having to provide any evidence of anything at all, then marriage is pointless, and it's by design. Marriage is a vestige of the past.

Fpbp

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The only incels I know are married men

You are raising A kid (high probability of not being yours) since paternity testing is problematic and outright banned in several "first world" countries. You are chained to an entitled hooker that can divorce you at any moment for any reason whatsoever and will always win in the court, and she can withold sex indefinitely from you because marital rape is now a thing.

If you want a kid its unironically better to adopt as single father and skip the whole cuckolding and divorce rape process.

Did you miss the "if" part fucktard? A worthy mate doesn't betray. Fucking jews I swear tf

formalize the soul binding

Why are you Trads such easy marks for women and their divorce lawyers?

Come on man this isn’t 1990. Don’t become the next generation of Alimony Cucks.

You are grasping at straws here. You are basically saying the only reason to get married is some hypothetical scenario that would make the cover of Newsweek if it actually happened.

be me recently broken up with working on myself

6 foot, 6 figures, working on 6 pack

meet girl, she is funny, tall, thin, white

she moves in super quickly

her mom is weird and obese but not dating her mom so idgaf

we date for 2 years, propose

my family asks "any health issues in your family?" hers replies "diabetus"

engaged 6 months, married

get pregnant on the honeymoon

"wow this is easy"

baby is born, healthy baby girl. wife is normal for one week. Slowly slips into insanity

Talking to herself / hearing voices, seeing things, staying awake for weeks, delusions

Get her into the mental hospital

"oh yea grandma was institutionalized 4 times for bipolar, and everyone on her moms side is bipolar, we saw some signs with annoette but didn't think it was a problem"

Psychiatrist "you now have a Bipolar 1 psychotic wife anon gods speed"

If I divorce she will probably get almost $100k for being married 1 year to me, and lying about her mental health.

if

a worthy mate

A contract that can only succeed if the woman is a literal ANGEL who will never be tempted to take advantage of one sided and readily available NFD laws.

You should know that just the act of a man meekly agreeing to such a contract (i.e. marriage) instantly takes 50 points off whatever attraction score she had for you pre-marriage.

She will always miss Chad, because Chad would never do that.

She will eventually divorce you to take another shot to pursue Chad. This time around she will be leveraging your assets and your ongoing income (alimony) to do so.

Look at all these woman posts from third world browns, they are so sexually frustrated it’s hilarious.

a jew shill doesn't understand what a soulmate is or how to discern quality

Not surprising coming from a souless pedophile. Kill yourself and say hi to Baal faggot

A worthy mate who loves you wouldn't want you to sign such an unfair and lopsided contract, is what I mean. You're talking about an oxymoron because a woman who loves you would understand the position this puts you in, but not herself, and wouldn't do that to you.

Women are nothing but a burden. The less you have to do with them, the less you know of their existence, the better of you will be.

Never get married.

Bumparino:^)

Nigg(er) lets stop pretending that marriage is what it used to be

dont divorce

she's still entitled to your 100k, time, and sanity

you can't separate your child from a bat shit crazy bitch

How much is the rest of your life worth?

if the third person in your marriage is sheikh Mohammed, then it's ok, he's got your back.

only marry in dubai

There is ONE reason for marriage. It's to announce publically to the rest of the tribe that you will be fucking this one, and there should be no hard feelings.

That's it. That's the social, evolutionary reason for it. Think about it, you live in a tribe of 40 people or so. You see a hot girl, and fuck her. Well it turns out someone else had their eye on her and now he's going to come at you with a rock while your sleeping.

This happened so often that tribes all came to the same conclusion. We have a big public ceremony where you declare publically you're going to be fucking her, and if anyone has a problem, they should "speak now" or stfu forever. There should be no retributionary stonings in the night. Whatever grievances you have. You put them out now.

Her brothers, father, whoever else is fucking her, should all be there and 'accept' that you'll be fucking her, so that you may fuck her in peace, and not have to look over your shoulder forever.

That's the core reason for marriage. Everything else is tacked on, to this base reason.

You are supposed to find a woman that will give you sex whenever you need it, and in exchange for that, you support her and keep her entertained. Then you both have your needs met.

well hypothetically its supposed to be a monopolization of his labor for her reproductive ability. and then you both try to raise healthy competent children who are thankful for your efforts and help you in your old age

That's rape though

But she can work, and he can jerk off to porn and play video games.

All tradwives are in marriages, but not all marriages are with tradwives. Simple as. If your women hasn't submitted to you, you should dump her and move on, but at the very least you shouldnt put a ring on her.

What would be the point of that if all tradwives are already in marriages?