EU is going to make it worse

It's ok this will hit China harder... in two more weeks...

Fake news. We haven’t agreed to any counter tariffs. Hungary with Orban will VETO anything like with Ukraine matters kekw

I can't wait for the Dow to hit 20k

Europe is a shithole
US/Russia/China alliance should invade this fag continent again

LOL you are actually retarded. EU can destroy your tech industry in a day by banning ASML sales to Intel and allowing sales to China. Or taking away Apple's ARM license.

28 billions... is that much when it comes to trade between us and eu?

kek that narrative goes out the window when non-US countries do it!

Nikkei genuinely crashed

Nah.

Seriously? You're all panicking over a 18% drop?
What are you people fucking twelve or something?

It's funny how everyone knows that Globohomo can organize retards and boomers out in the streets, can infiltrate institutions and media, and can propagandize constantly, shilling the entire internet for days at a time. Yet somehow you don't realize they can organize market sell-offs timed with that news in order to increase fear?

Stupid.

Dude don't defend yourself just take it up the ass from Zion Don!

tariff US exports

US products are made in China and the corporations incorporated in Ireland or Virgin Islands

How does this work exactly?

Why don't they do that then, instead of shooting themselves in the foot with tariffs.

Japan imploding

Sooo, when exactly is an economic situation in the "likely to cause a revolution" zone?

ASML is in great part owned by American firms. Good luck! As for Apple's ARM license that would be so colossally stupid I hope they do it.

ASML is a glorified systems integrator that sources components all over, including US.

This would not help Europe.

It means tariffs work on goods actually made in USA while all the electronics and shit like that that's actually made in Taiwan, China or Malaysia is tariff free coming to EU.

GPU prices are already lower in EU than USA when it was always the other way around because VAT.

And it's going to get worse.

Kek, the EU finally did something based (if this is true)

This is going to be the funniest “do nothing, win” moment in history with Russia and China

28 billion seems pretty low, no?

because fuck you thats why.

Russia and China have done quite a lot to help this circumstance. What morons don't seem to know is that the USA is joining the multipolar world assembled by them. Trump can't announce it that way, because our population and government are retarded, but if you understand the geopolitical situation in the world you know what is happening. This is good news for America, the nation.

Americans are fucking morons. They have no understanding of fucking anything.

Russia is getting hit super hard by cheaper oil.

They have no understanding of fucking anything.

False.

False. Russia has some of the lowest petroleum production costs in the world. They can manage fine with low oil prices much longer than basically anyone else.

Eurofaggots, your market is crashing too.

What morons don't seem to know is that the USA is joining the multipolar world assembled by them.

So the US is capitulating. I never knew capitulating and giving up your spot as a superpower was good for a nation.

Fixed dollar amount

It's scared

This is countertariff for the steel and aluminum, NOT the liberation day stuff. There is more coming.

nobody in europe has enough money to care about stocks anyway. it's purely an american thing.

So far all the losses have been in the fake and gay stocks area, so not even close.

giving up your spot

it was already gone, retard

I'm personally hoping the Eurofags follow through on their plan to tariff "digital services." This would make Google and Meta bullshit more expensive in Europe, and hurt the profits of California companies primarily staffed by foreigners and trannies.

Wait
I thought tariffs were bad!!

worse on Europe you mean? the EU cannot meaningfully do anything to the US in regards to tariffs

You will keep buying EU/canada/etc crap because you are fat ass retarded consumers with insatiable greed.
Meanwhile the citizens of EU/canada/etc see you as unreliable and disingenuous trading partners at best, retarded corrupt tyrants at worst.
You will keep buying our shit, because you have no other options for cost effective goods. We will stop buying your shit on principle. Your trade deficit will widen, exactly the opposite of what your dear leader was hoping for. Because he is fucking retard, and so are you.

LOL

How dare you punish me for my own retardation!

It it Sunday midnight
From where is this news? Ursula works at this hour?

we don't care how you "see us." that is the part you haven't quite caught on to. You need us more than we need you.

Fuck you would be letting China get ASML tech

Such things happen occasionally. It is what it is.

Funnily enough that's the thing your govt is most touchy about. When we tried to implement a digital services tax Biden threatened us with sanctions. We caved.

yeah great, you have what 10% increased in prices?
we already had 22% more now is gonno be what 60% ?

Your government

Biden

This stupidity is something I see from almost everyone commenting on this who is outside of the USA. You all don't seem to realize that we have a new government and that whatever faggot bullshit the previous one(s) were doing is no longer relevant. During Trump's first term he never had control of the government but this time he does. This new government DOES NOT CARE if you tax Google. Good, fuck them.

You need us more than we need you.

Your president is very quickly dismantling the reality in which such statement is true.
Theatrics aside, his goal seems to be long term weakening of dollar. Do you know how this will affect your retarded consumerism?

Real prices on things like food have gone up 50-100% across the board since 2020. The idea that people will care if it goes up another 10-20% from tariffs is absurd.

You need us more than we need you.

That's what our politicians will say too.
But average joe non-american citizen is telling you to shove your harley davidsons up your ass, we won't buy any american shit ever again. We will eat soft potatoes and oatmeal for every meal rather than bear your insults.
Your trade deficit will widen.

we don't care how you "see us."

Cool, then you will just keep buying our shit regardless of what happens, because you don't care that we are all boycotting your entire country.

nnooooo you can't fight back

tariffs hurt those who impose them

oh yeah? We’ll just tariff the US back!

?

I feel the need to periodically remind people that China props up Russia.

You all don't seem to realize that we have a new government and that whatever faggot bullshit the previous one(s) were doing is no longer relevant.

Yes, the realisation that USA truly may be an unstable monkey with a knife was indeed a shocking one.
In civilised world countries don't switch their positions by 180 degrees only because this or that party gained power.

Tariffs crashed our economy tho! The eu should show us how abolishing all tariffs is the true path forward.

It's funny to watch, they get exposed as liars so easily.

No, he's dismantling the reality in which we keep you under our wing. It has been determined that like most colonies you are a liability to the Empire and we will thrive by cutting you loose. The results will be lesser for you, but that is not our problem.

The situation a week ago was that anyone more or less could sell products into the lucrative US domestic market for basically free. That is no longer case, there is now a fee to do so. That is all that has changed.

You have it the exact opposite, saving trillions a year will make the dollar stronger than it’s been in decades.

won't buy your shit ever again

We don't care. The United States of America is not an export-oriented country and the exports we do big numbers on are not consumer goods. This seems to escape the Eurofags and Canadacucks for some reason.

Are you that stupid? This is exactly what happens during a trade war which your dear leader has sparked. Read about it.

This is not true.

We not not unstable we are self-serving. You are not our problem, America is our problem. This is a return to normalcy for the first 150 years of American history. The rules of your "civilized world" are European rules meant to appease Europeans. Those are not our rules. Eat shit.

Remind me again what do we need from the EU? Seriously, we're just going to wait for the next WW to NOT help you, then we're going to come in and take it all. These dumb fucks are going to find out not to talk tough when you don't have the cards.

Thats good. The EU cant produce it anyways.

Yes, the realisation that USA truly may be an unstable monkey with a knife was indeed a shocking one.

Trump's display of utter retardation during his liberation day speech, that's what broke the spell. It wasn't solely the tariffs, it was the complete shattering of his image as anything resembling a "businessman". It shattered the concept that he might have a smart team behind the scenes, but that is obviously not true, given the material they supplied him for his retard spiel.
This is literally the first time I have doubted america.

The dollar will increase as the Euro collapses, something that is inevitable based upon what is going on.

Thanks Europe. This makes products cheaper domestically for us.

Oh no! Anyway,

Trump is making EVERYONE seethe, he must be such an incredible genius. You can just smell the jealousy from EVERYONE.

Thank you, dirty jew

The EU and the US are currently in negotiations over some trade stuff. I am assuming what'll happen is that the US will impose its tariffs, the EU will impose its tariffs and at a later point they'll use the resolution of whatever trade negotiations that were going on as an excuse to remove all recent tariffs.

and the exports we do big numbers on are not consumer goods.

No one is buying your shit any more, no one is buying your services either. You will still buy our shit because you don't not have a domestic alternative, best case you are 5+ years out to even treading water on your own.
Your trade deficit will widen. Ohhh ohhh wasn't fixing that the point of all this? I am certain if you asked Trump, that's exactly the reason he will say he is doing this.

Tariffs only hurt the people of the country that impose them. If you free traders really believed your lies then every country should just drop their tariffs to zero and let the US destroy itself with high tariffs.

don't switch their positions by 180 degrees only because this or that party gained power

left promise something, they win, proceed to whine cuz the right has left some shit, do nothing
right promise something, they win, proceed to whine cuz the left has left some shit, do nothing
repeat

How reducing governmental spending could result in higher value of dollar denominated in other currencies?
You magatards are complete and absolute ignorants, and it is a great problem both for the world and for your country that higher echelons of republicans who were economically sound got displaced by pure populism trumpism

EU exports many things to the US that we don't need to buy from them. it's a friendly arrangement and that is over. Maybe they shouldn't have pushed so hard to turn our kids into gender goblins. Anyway the biggest exports from Europe are pharmaceuticals. Fortunately that is one of the easiest things to manufacture and was only done in Europe and not USA by policy agreement. It has nothing to do with ability and many of the products they make are, like chinese manufacturing, done to our design and spec and often using our own materials.

Other big Euro exports are foods - french wine, shit like that. We have our own wine industry that could use a boost - shitlibs in California will love that. The other is aerospace - Airbus. Boeing just got a nice helping hand.

Good, europoors need to stop being ungreateful nigger loving faggots.

Europe has basically no leverage in dealing with the USA. You'll be tariffed and it will stay. By taxing our digital services you will only make your own companies pay more because Europe can't seem to come up with alternatives

You will still buy our shit because you don't not have a domestic alternative,

example?

oh no, the consequences of my actions?

Mutts showing their true colors.

Just because there's a deficit doesn't mean there isn't a massive market in the work.

I'm sure a super strong dollar will do wonders for your trade deficit.

shooting themselves in the foot with tariffs

but I've been told Liberation Day was the greatest economic strategy of all time?

would be funny to see a new trading bloc emerge out of this without the US

The US is the largest exporter of oil, natural gas, and petroleum products. Our only real export which the rest of you cannot do with out. We also have essentially all the metalurgical coal on the planet and 70% of all remaining known coal reserves by BTUs. If you buy it we make money if you don't we get cheap energy which reduces domestic manufacturing prices. It matters very little.

What did you expect when you slapped tariffs on them?

But tariffs are a tax on your own people I thought?

Put tariffs on America

NOOO YOU CAN'T PUT TARIFFS ON US, DON'T YOU KNOW TARIFFS BAD?????

Proceeds to put more tariffs on America

Kek

KEK!
50 years in the making and we're revealing it in two weeks!

About 14% of all EU imports come from the US, you are americas biggest export market

Only the most cholesterol brained shartmericans believe that

Revolution

Japan

LAMO

example?

YOU HAVE TO BUY OUR PARMIGIANO YOU CANT MAKE IT THEREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
*scream hand gestures in italian*
but seriously i think anyone is fucked more than the usa because even if all the shit is made in china/india/vietnam/whavever is still property of some usa company

Yes.

That happened years ago. Your continent is shut out because you are seen as controlling faggots ruled by women and foreigners.

I'm loving the happenings. I spend almost no money, so none of this affects me. My hobbies are surfing and video games. The beach is free, already have a huge backlog of vidya, car already paid for, all credit cards are paid for.... All I need is a woman for sex but that'd be a bit expensive. Those bitches waste so much money.

We not not unstable we are self-serving. You are not our problem, America is our problem. This is a return to normalcy for the first 150 years of American history

Your damned country leeched the value from all over the world for decades after WW2.
Your whole way of life, your consumerism and ability to get so fat you need those funny carts to move through Walmart aisles is due to the rest of the world sponsoring that through unequal treaties, control over modern information and finance infrastructure and by extreme projection of military power.
If your empire decides to abandon its provinces, which it semi-protects but very much drains, it will no longer be an empire, it's that simple.

WHY AREN'T YOU ROLLING OVER AND SUCKING THE GOD EMPEROR REEEEEE

can dish it but cant take it - America in a nutshell

That is what this intends to address. Enormous corporate profits and activity ostensibly from the "US" are parked overseas. Our domestic economy sees minimal benefit from it. That capital and production will quickly move back to the USA because it is now too risky to do otherwise. The US has so much capital and so many resources it's comical that anyone pretends we can't manage. The people who lose are the rich lazy cunts with email jobs and jews in finance and literally no one is sad about that except for them.

Everything will be ok once Tyrone finishes the chip factory in America. Trump believes. You should too.

eu doing something to the US

we tanked your economy by making you sanction russia, we blew up your cheap energy pipeline and we're taking Germany industry and you bitches still aint gonna do shit. oh yeah we're also making you take over the kikeraine war too and flooding your countries with shitskins and hohols lol.

About 14% of all EU imports come from the US, you are americas biggest export market

yeah but what the usa imports and what exports?
we can make high tech stuff ? HURR DURR WE CAN!!11 well no all the shit is patented we cant, but they can make food there? yes

Cars, McDonalds, Oil, corn, pharmaceuticals

You tanked your own economy fat fuck

We have an industry of champagne wineries in California, but they are not allowed to call it champagne, they have to call it sparkling wine but it's the same shit.

kek i swear europeans get more retarded every day.

Your damned country leeched the value from all over the world for decades after WW2.

gave japs preferential treatment until 1989 and then pulled the run out from under them when they were no longer needed

continued subsidizing Europe for 30 years via NATO

opened markets to Europe immediately after WW2

let Korea do whatever it wanted with no trade barriers until 2010

We paid you faggots to not be commies, it was far from selfless but Russia is crippled, China is not looking good, and nobody else is rising because they are all sub-85 IQ shitskins compared to actual Chink mean IQ of 92 once you cut through their bullshit.

Why the fuck do you care anyway shouldn't the Europoors be happy to get the American boot of their neck like they've asked for decades? Are you right wing or not?

That capital and production will quickly move back to the USA because it is now too risky to do otherwise.

I fail to see Americans willing to pay 5x more for same shit due to higher labour costs

The US is the largest exporter of oil, natural gas, and petroleum products.

Yeah that's why trump specifically carved out our crude exports to you guys, so that you can keep refining and flipping it. You are dependent on us for the raw material. You are not going to touch oil, and we aren't either, because then it's truly end game and even retard trump understands that. This is not the bargaining chip you think it is.

Our only real export which the rest of you cannot do with out.

OPEC will have something to say about that, especially once you start bombing the arabs on behalf of our jewish masters.

opening bell tomorrow might as well be a gunshot

no longer be an empire, it's that simple

Congrats on finally catching up! The Empire serves only the citizens of the Empire, not the people of the nation. The Empire benefits Europe more than it does Americans.

well no all the shit is patented we cant

Patent is a gentlemantly agreement

yes burn down the femcommie hell

TSMC is basically an American cut-out operated in Taiwan. We have already forced them to build plants in the USA and one is operating already in Arizona. To get rapid production in place they basically moved the Taiwanese workers here to do it. That's the power the USA has.

hat capital and production will quickly move back to the USA because it is now too risky to do otherwise.

No board of directors on earth will approve billions of dollars of domestic factory construction when stock markets have halved in value, and the banks aren't lending due to liquidity crunches. There will be no domestic investment, your citizenry will eat the import tariffs.

Funnest part is that now that we don't have to pretend to be friends with the EU and the WTO is dead we can just call it "Champagne" if we want to.

countermeasures

THIS STATEMENT MAKES NO LOGICAL SENSE.
These are lies.
Wokeys riot on command, hallucinate plagues, inject gene altering goo, their hypno masters even spent a year (2023) trying to force the world to pretend that space aliens in sci fi spaceships from TV fiction had arrived, testing their power over the “woke”.
Now this.
And it makes not one jot of sense.
The jobestown media needs to be fully shut down. It’s a weapon platform. Hypnosis and cult power.

Nice comment, poetic really, I appreciate you.

due to high labour costs

Labor is far, far overestimated as a cost input for finished goods. Cars for example are typically only around 5-10% of their cost in labor. If the price of a car goes up $2k because of increased labor costs literally no one cares. Car prices fluctuate more than that for holiday sales and after the last five years of price inflation we wouldn't even bat an eye.

eu wont do that because its led by women that care more about liberal trooning than anything else

naive

the stock market is not a measure of our economy

Are you right wing or not?

I'm not retarded, thank you

Why the fuck do you care anyway shouldn't the Europoors be happy to get the American boot of their neck like they've asked for decades?

It is genuinely funny how misplaced is your interpretation of reasons for europeans raging here towards your country. We don't do that because we want more of your "protection", in fact Europe without meddling of the USA would be far better.
What is problematic for us is short-medium term instability which your country seems to love to produce nowadays.
That and realisation that many of you, Americans are so fucking stupid that you genuinely believe that as world empire full of people capable of consuming to death you somehow are the ones getting ripped off.

just call it Calpagne :°D
its fun to see someone with the eu flag that want to break patents and copyrights

No, but there is correlation.

I guess there will be no semiconductors for Eurofags then.

So these “countermeasures” will stop the tarriffs or increase them?
They are not countermeasures. They are more of the same.
I’m tired of it.
We are at the point where politicians treat winning elections like winning a gameshow, control of the public purse & law is a licence to steal money hand over fist.
And people just stare at media in a hypnotic haze being brainwashed for recreation.
Neither of these two things can continue without destroying the world. They both need to be stopped.

and what you are seeing right now is a correction. The last government flooded the economy with government cash in order to hide the bad economy. That boosted asset prices far beyond any reasonable number and had exactly zero positive effect for Americans. The vast majority of stocks, like 90%, are owned by a small group of rich people who are still rich as hell.

The only way to "win" in this tariff contest with the United States is to drop all of your tariffs and restrictions with us. The USA is not export-oriented nor does it seek to be.

Would you be satisfied with receiving only 80% of your usual paycheck week after week? That’s essentially what tariffs are.

How the fuck do you think companies generate funds for massive investment projects that you're advocating? They either go to the banks for lending (not happening due to bank reserves being pummeled), or the corp issues stock. Stocks get issued on the *gasp* stock market. Boards will not approve the issuances at record low stock prices because it dilutes them.
In fact the corps will be running record stock buybacks while valuations are low, that is the long-term play, rather than build factories to churn out crap that they can't sell because everyone lost their jobs.
You have no idea how finance works, you're a retarded burger flipper.

As a petroluem geologist I should mention that we are also the largest producer of oil, natural gass, and associated liquids. We import heavy shit because nobody else has the cracking plants to deal with it and that also means we can get it cheap. What some of the new tariffs mean is that Venezuela will have to sell directly to us at a lower rate rather than selling it to China and them passing it on to us. We take oil from the tar sands for much the same reason, we actually use it to dilute other oils. And if we don't import the amount desired I specialize in clastic reservoirs in PA so I'll would a make a shitton of money selling oil which previously wasn't worth much more than shale oil.

I think a few nukes in every major city in the EU will fix their little red wagon.

its fun to see someone with the eu flag that want to break patents and copyrights

Where did I say that? I merely pointed at the fact that patents are legal constructs resulting from agreements.

That’s essentially what tariffs are.

That is probably really convincing if you're a brain-dead idiot. Fuck off back to reddt, fag.

Bro the USA is not risking a capital shortage here.

So these “countermeasures” will stop the tarriffs or increase them?

Irrelevant. The most important thing is to take europe back from US occupation and globohomo pushing (which will continue after trump term, so now id the only chance)

No you can’t, if you break patent agreements you’ll be opening a can of worms, America has much more things to be protective of than Europe

In that case you should also be aware that the only really important place we import petroleum products from is actually Russia.

That capital and production will quickly move back to the USA

It's very unlikely, tariffs only matter if people believe they're here to stay before they engage in years long trade commitments
This retarded ape dumped a surprise executive order based on chat GPT prompts and went golfing
Tariffs are also a huge factor of instability, if anything I bet people are staying from anything US-trade related for the next 4 years

drop all of your tariffs and restrictions with us

Also never going to happen, just American food alone is toxic to humans and doesn’t belong anywhere near a civilised country

The real question is which EU country will snake the others first

The EU are raging faggots acting like they didn't have Tariffs on the US for the last 50 years.

This is what America was for 150 years. Paleocons have wanted to dump the empire since the 80s, before the Soviets even fell. Getting involved with you faggots was a mistake. The original Manifest Destiny as defined in the Federal Papers was not only Sea to Sea but Pole to Pole. We should have exterminated all non-whites in the New World while you were busy, the world wars were a mistake.

I hope shit gets all fucked up so we can have a genocidal civil war and exterminate all darkies in 6 months, then purge all the jeets and ubran canucks, then kill everybody south of the border. Then we can jus sit over year and laugh. Probably won't happen, but a man can dream.

Damn.

Champagne is not a patent agreement it's a copyright agreement. That is a can of worms we are perfectly happy to open.

They're here to stay. What is going on right now is structural and will not be changed. Trump is not creating the change he is responding to what has happened over the past few years. There is no way to reverse this course.

Again, the US does not care about International trade nearly as much as you morons think. We are not an export-driven economy. Most other countries ARE and guess where they export TO? All we did was institute a fee to export into our market.

Also never going to happen

correct. that is why I am expecting the EU to fall apart within two years.

We do not need you to buy our agricultural products.

The real question is which EU country will snake the others first

If you weren't an American you would perhaps know that whole of EU is under one customs area

he thinks the EU will stay together after the USA dumps them

lmfao

I never knew capitulating and giving up your spot as a superpower was good for a nation.

Absolutely yes. We should have wound down our Empire way earlier and just ran off with loads more money

he thinks USA will stay together

California is already leaving

They're here to stay. What is going on right now is structural and will not be changed.

Sure bro, I 100% believe this to be a statement of fact
I'm sure this executive order will never be challenged whatsoever, especially in 2026 when congress(The branch in charge of tariffs) get their midterms
Or in 2028 when people likely vote based on the state of the US economy

Yeah and we send all ours to Asia and other shitholes. So there really isn't a conflict of interest now is there? I wasn't referring to "you" as Europe in particular but all of "you" as in the world. Though Europe is a major importer of butane and propane because Russia doesn't really specialize in that. That all said Halliburton and Shlumberger along with dozens of lesser corpos built and ran Russians entire modern petroleum industry and infrastructure via subcontracted engineers and geologists. I even did work for them back in 2015 via emails. Given chink and rusky incompetence we'll see if they can maintain or improve shit. Same deal with Saudi-Aramco, Saudis don't just import jeets for labor. If anything Europe via Shell and BP might end up in Russia.

California is already leaving

I am from California. Why do you think you understand better what is happening in my country than I do? The fact is that California can't leave if it wanted to. The opposition in the USA is at the weakest it has been since I can remember. If they attempt any substantial revolt against these policies it will end them.

retard, US collects 3x as many tariffs on EU imports as EU collects on US imports

You do not understand what has happened in the United States. We have had a political revolution. This happened because the previous government blew it, in great part over Ukraine. That will destroy your political system, too. Ours is designed to allow for this, yours will be much rougher. Don't throw in with the Jacobins, doesn't go well for them.

Again, the US does not care about International trade nearly as much as you morons think. We are not an export-driven economy. Most other countries ARE and guess where they export TO? All we did was institute a fee to export into our market.

You are uneducated. Learn about effects of currency strength on purchasing power of households. The strength of currency doesn't come out of Trump's ass, too.

This belief that the Russians need westoid companies to run their shit is something you should stop believing in. It'll get you killed.

most italian italian

You can tariff our products 100% and ban them. It doesn't harm us very much but it destroys you.

you are uneducated

nigger I am ten years ahead of you.

it is about 9x what we currently collect on US imports

You do not understand what has happened in the United States. We have had a political revolution.

Oh I get that, I'm just telling you to strap-up because you're about to get another one very soon

we dont import anything from you tards that we cant make ourselves
we actually have industry

you're about to get another one very soon

You already tried and it failed. The "revolutionaries" are a joke. I am willing to bet that they DO try but even with foreign support they'll get their brains splattered. It is Europe you should worry about.

Correct. What you do is EXPORT TO US. If we are no longer buying that you have a problem.

I thought tariffs only hurt the importer? Why would the EU take a self-inflicted wound like this? I thought there was no reason to ever tariff another country because your own citizens pay the fee?

globalists baited into a war on globalism
How does Trump do it?

muh licenses

What do you do if we just continue using your IP without your authorization?

but that would be heckin illegal

lol
lmao

You MIGAtards are all idiots.
Tariffs means you pay more for things imported from affected countries.
Trump's tariffs are stupid because they hit EVERY OTHER COUNTRY, meaning no alternative trading partners, which is very bad because there is no way the USA can quickly find local alternatives as in many cases they don't even exist yet, which means american consumers will have to pay more for no reason.
Europe's tariffs, instead, are a) directed at a single country, which at most simply means finding another source for those things and b) aimed at specific industries, those that do have competition from local products and that suddenly will find themselves outmatched.

This whole thing is so fucking retarded.

Why would the EU take a self-inflicted wound like this?

Because it inflicts mutual pain on the USA, their citizens and governers and congressmen, once hurt hard enough, will apply pressure to the orange god to back down on his retardation. In theory. That's why they call it a trade "war" baby.

You already tried and it failed

What do you mean? The last time france was involved in a revolution it created your entire country, I'd call it a win
I'm telling you that tanking your entire economy will make your "revolution" short-lived, people cant just live on ideas

Trump is good at understanding his position. He knows that the USA is in the strong position - we have 'the cards." Simple as.

They import $400bln

He'll let his underlings negotiate specific exceptions and more finely detailed agreements at the micro level, this is Trump's style, ready fire aim, it's a chapter title in his book, you should read it if you want to understand him better.

You need a lot of everything from everyone.
Basically the only thing you make 100% at home is digital products that need no actual real life stuff, and even those are often made by using foreign brains.

ARM has a significant competitor in the making in RISC-V specifically because of their licensing practices. If they pulled Apple, their best licensee, they'd shift the open architecture within a couple years and kill ARM dead in the process.

France joined up in order to try and knock-off British caribbean ports but you did such a bad job helping that we fucked you out of those in our treaty with the Brits.

The opposition in the United States is weak. They do not have the power to resist what is happening.

the net trade deficit is 200bn, that's less than 1% of our GDP assuming it goes to 0.
you retards actually think the producer, eu/china, cannot survive without the useless eater, usa.

I hope orange man puts 9000% tarriffs on everything so we can do the same, lol.

Do you have natural gas?

LMFAO, eu, please increase the tariffs by 100% The eu is fucked!

did you even read the post youre responding to? EU tariffs are on american exports to EU, retard.

I'm telling you that tanking your entire economy will make your "revolution" short-lived, people cant just live on ideas

Our economy is not tanking. If the price of plastic ice trays and towels goes up 30% it does not destroy our economy. If the entire world boycotts our "services" it does not destroy our economy. The USA is a resource rich territory with an advanced, developed economy. Our domestic market is enough to sustain us at a high standard of living. And in that scenario the entire world is melting down as a result. You all need us more than we need you - simple as.

tariffs don't work, only nazis use tariffs

let's double up our already tough tariffs

????

The rules of your "civilized world" are European rules meant to appease Europeans.

And the rules of your "civilised world" are jewish rules meant to appease jews and niggers.

Do you think the Japs invented the center wing box for jumbo jets?

They're only bad when the US wants reciprocal ones. Europoors want more free gibs, the only thing is they're about to lose more.

EU tariffs the US

US doesn't produce anything

America loses nothing

You fucking stupid Trumpnigger.

lol. lmao. Good luck ever finding a rational discussion on this topic for the next 4 years. We're gonna be seeing in 2030 the talking heads coming out "Shocking new research suggests tariffs are actually beneficial in many circumstances."

It's gonna be hilarious when Google, Microsoft, Amazon, and all the other big tech companies get nationalized and pulled out of Europe completely. Those morons won't even be able to get a network going without USA holding their hand.

You don't get it, buddy. The economic STRUCTURE of the country is what matters. The USA does important many things but it DOES NOT HAVE TO. The countries that export many things to us DO HAVE TO. That is the equation you need to solve.

Not my tech industry. Not my companies that produce nothing. What will we do if these trillion dollar companies with no revenue or physical products go under? I would trade Nvidia for airbus in a heartbeat.

brazilian oranges

Similarly, surplus fruits or vegetables have occasionally been left to rot or destroyed when farmers face oversupply, low prices, or logistical issues—like during the COVID-19 pandemic when demand from restaurants and schools plummeted globally, including in Italy. In such cases, the cost of harvesting, transporting, or storing produce can exceed what farmers would earn, leading some to abandon or destroy crops. A notable case from 2025 involved an Apulian clementine farmer who reported leaving 150 tons of fruit on trees because even the processing industry wouldn’t take it due to a surplus.

*reddit spacing*

non ti preoccupare lo pigliamo nel culo in tutti i modi tipo col tonno in olio di olvia che ora costa 16€ al kg al posto di 10 e c'è un cucchiaino di olio nella scatoletta mentre prima era piena a tappo

maybe they are but we're not telling you that you have to follow them. That is the problem with the EU that has made them the pariahs of the world - no one likes to be lectured.

And it's going to get worse.

For the eu.

Keep dreaming, we're still laughing. ACCELERATE. Ramp those tariffs up a 1000%

I would trade Nvidia for airbus in a heartbeat.

I get you, but the problem is you're about to trade Nvidia for a pack of peanuts

already tough tariffs

tariffs were like 5% of total trade for the EU

this is such a simple calculation but everyone seems unwilling to run it.

Good news for Britain for a change. With higher EU tariffs, they are looking like a better trading partner. I'm sure they will fuck it up and tariff the US though.

It reminds of covid, the way the media will say these things that just don't quite sound right, the logic doesn't seem sound, and they don't seem to want to address the weak points of their argument

the problem with the EU that has made them the pariahs of the world

there's not a single country in the world except your greatest ally israel left who doesn't hate your guts

It's gonna be hilarious when SAP pulls out of USA

NVDIA is overvalued. If it disappeared tomorrow do you think it would materially harm the US economy?

You're about to trade nothing for a pack of peanuts

That's still free peanuts. Point is tech industry has been actively damaging America by essentially creating a false sense of growth. Look at the majestic seven stocks, two companies don't make anything, one just makes software, one is a shipping company, one is a car company that makes fewer cars than Ford, and two make computer hardware in other countries. None of this supposed growth benefits America at all, if you out all that growth into bitcoin it would have the same practical effect on the economy.

It's gonna be hilarious when the only countries left with computers are America and Taiwan and Europe is thrown back into the stone age because they don't know how to actually manufacture computers and then Taiwan gets taken over by China.

Sure. So what? We don't need you to like us.

I don't know, it seems that the vast majority of reeeeeing is coming from anti-Trumpers and Euros. If they are so convinced that they are right, then they should be quietly waiting in glee, not reeeeeeing and protesting. Also, one has to give things more than a couple of days to play out.

In the meantime, we can circle back to other tired issues, like how I need the government to take away my butterknife and arrest me for online WordCrime or else a toxic white boy might stab a bunch of transgender immigrants with it.

SAP pulls out of USA

that would be a minor inconvenience.

In civilised world countries don't switch their positions by 180 degrees only because this or that party gained power.

When the parties are just labels for show, you are correct.
When the party platforms mean something, that is exactly what is supposed to happen.

free ride is over, I think you’ll find out just how well china treats its “partners”

....And we care because...

You make good points.

funnily enough, we do, lmao.

make it 3000% percent.
watching burgers starve will be glorious

Please do, I fucking hate that trash, and yes I've had the displeasure of working with it.

yeah, SAP is dogshit

Bro NVDA is overvallued but not worthless
This is probably the biggest mis-direction the current US administration is pushing right now, the US is a net importer of goods yes, but it's a gigantic exporter of services, hence why they excluded them from their jeet-mathematics
These services have real tangibles values and associated incomes, if the world were to tariffs it you'd be fucked

I think it would hurt the corporate world far more than disappearance of Outlook or Excel, the alternatives exist and offer same value, meanwhile there isn't a single erp of such scale and complexity other than sap.

Might as well make it infinite. Still won't matter.

Nobody cares. You are completely irrelevant.

Wait five years. Iran's doesn't look so good, they are 90 IQ mudmen but Russia has crippling alcoholism, six of one and half dozen of the other.

burgers starve

Have you ever seen a map of our country? We're like God's gift to agriculture.

Of course we will. Hell, by your calculations you should have negative tarrifs on us

Russia invading something

Well we were running a bit low on droned mobiks.

Oracle.

associated incomes

guess who benefits form those incomes? your shitlib revolutionary opposition and their foreigner pets. Please help us to defund them!

Note that SAP does nothing that several existing USA mega tech corps already do and the USA has the ability to actually develop software to replace it. Like I said, minor inconvenience.

You are wrong that SAP's ERP is irreplaceable. There is already a real world example of this problem, not that anyone in Europe knows anything about it.

The Russians and Persians are in no way comparable, and you're underestimating the Persians.

it's a gigantic exporter of services

So nothing?

These services have real tangibles values and associated incomes, if the world were to tariffs it you'd be fucked

Even if they could (how do you tariff a free service like google or facebook) who the fuck cares? Are people going to go to Limux instead of paying $50 extra for Microsoft 11? Doubtful.

two years

surely two weeks

Uh, ready to work those camps? How about counter-season crops? You know, those you can't farm due not being the right season, maybe you may start doing slave raids or something?

by starve i mean a very drastic adjustment to your living standards.
of course you will neither starve nor freeze but live like brazilians, which you are, demographically

Oracle

It's among the worst, if not the worst corporation in the world, I genuinely believe it is ran by people who get high on malice inflicted on other people

whatever the timeframe it will be much, much sooner than you think.

You really should refer to a map. note the latitudes on it. Trying to argue that the USA can't feed itself is comical, don't even try bro.

Even if the USA's living standards were halved ours would still be higher than yours. Think about that.

It's been too many decades since Russians have raped your women.

I wouldn't mind working on a farm

What about a tomato farm?

If tomatoes aren't viable for a developed country to farm than either we should improve mechanization so it is or farm other stuff and import tomatoes. Weird how people claim America is too developed a country to make steel but we can't do anything that could impact farming a specific crop by hand.

google and facebook serve ads.
those ads are now tariffed with 90%. have fun.

Things like tomatoes will ALWAYS be available to import. Why? Because the places that grow them need the money. If your economy only produces a few cash crops and the Americans are willing to buy them from you then that is a deal you take. The price of tomatoes increasing 20% within the US domestic market is literally trivial.

oh no not the ads!!!

you are threatening to defund jews, woman, and troons. perhaps we are allies after all.

Domestic companies who probably mostly use online advertisements now have to pay more for advertisements

Gottem

Not that I care. If Alphabet and Meta went under I'd consider it a net gain for America and humanity at large.

I fully hate Oracle with a seething only surpassed by my seething for SAP, both are trash, but corporations will not be without a solution, they will just throw millions at it until it works vaguely good enough for what they need, same as they do with SAP.

If they are so convinced that they are right, then they should be quietly waiting in glee

That's what most people are doing right now, I bet the entire Iran/China/Russia block is jerking off in discord right now
I consider the US to be enough of an ally to feel compelled to tell them they're headed straight into a wall

Diversity. It's your's now.

still waiting for that vaxxdieoff

But...but...but Eurokeks were supposed to cuck out and bend the knee!

I don't think you understand how Jewish this gonna be.

we dont import anything from you tards that we cant make ourselves we actually have industry

Now change that "we" to mean the Americans. Is it so bad we want to do the same thing as you?

If Alphabet and Meta went under I'd consider it a net gain for America and humanity at large.

correct

That's my point the manpower heavy farming is all non-staple foods, corn and potatoes are extremely mechanized in their harvesting and processing. If we kick out the immigrants or remove laws that allow farmers to skirt conventional labour laws (farms can employ 12 year olds because there's no difference between a young boy workin' on pa's farm and Pablo the Mexican child picking tomatoes for a corporate farm) than staple foods will be uneffected and crops which are effected can be replaced relatively easily.

WHERE DID THE LEAF GO REEEEEEE

ours would still be higher than yours

im afraid you are misinformed.
they are below ours even as we speak if one deducts housing and healthcare costs from the net median wage.

the median american worker is left with less purchasing power than the median romanian worker after housing and healthcare

you work 50 weeks, we work 47 (at best)
we have safe, clean cities, you have nigger infested cesspits.
but sure, carry on no.1-ing.

I own an aprtment, a studio in downtown Bucharest, a plot of land in the burbs, a small commercial space that i rent and a plot of land near the sea on a wage that is just 2x the average wage here, single and after getting divorce raped.
normal couples earn about as much as i do and own about as i do.

I mean this in the kindest way. You americans are poor.

Or taking away Apple's ARM license

a Japanese-owned British semiconductor and software design company based in Cambridge, England

No one cares. Other countries don’t buy shit from us. We buy from them. That’s the whole point. Our tariffs are going to hurt other countries A LOT more than anything they can do to us because we are so much richer than all you fags.

lol, are we still in NATO?

Huge amounts of american ag go to exports. The government has already signaled to them that those days are over and to shift crops to serve domestic needs.

blah blah blah gyppo I have been to Romania. The only question is what is your purchasing power each month? Mine is three times yours.

you have nigger infested cesspits.

Anon, you're Romanian. Literally your entire country are viewed as the niggers of Europe

Now change that "we" to mean the Americans. Is it so bad we want to do the same thing as you?

Maybe we should have considered laying the infrastructure for reindustralization before deciding we were going to eat shit until corporation do it for us because as it is Trump's genius plan is to slap tariffs on everything and then hope that companies will maybe possibly if it would please them build factories for us instead of waiting for his party to get thrown out of office and a democrat to rescind his tariffs.

they wont pay more, they will pay the same to local ad providers unless google takes the financial hit.

i already use deepseek for most of my searches as google is useless

USA putting tariffs on the EU is a meme to begin with. Everyone in Europe uses Apple and Microsoft products. Every business in Europe is using some form of American business software. Trump uses some Jewish mathematics where none of this is counted. If you actually include services then there is no trade imbalance.
The entire thing is the Americans having a bitchfit because no one in Europe wants to buy their chlorine blasted chicken and monsanto Frankenstein crops

it's not bad.
it's just that you literally don't have an industrial base anymore.
it'll take 30y starting today to educate a workforce if they were humans, but you're 50% non-white and growing every day

North America is pulling out of Europe because after nearly 100 years of building up the UN and EU, when Russia finally decided to test its luck with yet another land war straight out of the beginning of the 20th century, you guys floundered. You didn't accomplish a single thing. Europe quaked in its boots while a vassal state of America used America's old artillery and military toys to fend off Russia, which obviously was only going to work long-term if Europe pulled its weight and turned a barrier into a bulwark. Europe didn't do that. They didn't do that because they expected America to fund and provide for every little problem that the Europeans ever endure, as if that wasn't some day going to be called out and Russia (among others) wouldn't notice Europe are totally useless cretins who can't be called self-sufficient. Then when the Americans rightly asked what the fuck and try to get everyone onboard (not to defend America's borders; to make Europeans secure Europe) the threats started pouring out. The reality that the UN and EU are blackmail operations (not anything actually productive) became too glaring to ignore.

There's lone exceptions like Italy and Poland who are not totally worthless, but by god you can count those on a single hand. The rest of you deserve to retvrn to a time of antiquity when Europe was a bunch of squabbling states and national borders didn't last ten years. And all this has happened because you couldn't figure out how to follow the example of the Americans or follow basic instructions. Between the hubris of deciding you'll somehow outlast the United States, a nation with a bonified reserve currency and complete self-sufficiency thanks to its sheer size and natural resources, and the suicidal policies regarding race, I can't even blame Trump for what he's doing. You're actually just retarded. You will cave and start doing shit properly when made to, but you will still be retarded.

Google ad is more expensive lets put our ads on Ecosia

retarded yuropoors just taxing themselves. dont they know tariffs are just fucking yourself? why are they so gay and retarded?

Yes please.

It doesn't take a lot of education to work an assembly line. That's the whole point of capitalism described in the Wealth of Nations. To simplify manufacturing down to a job being "put this screw into this hole, pass it to the next person, repeat 3000 times a day". You don't need education for that, that's why China ships villagers from thousands of miles away into factories in the city.

a democrat to rescind his tariffs.

You don't get it, anon. Trump is /responding/ to the changing global economic order. Rescinding his moves will be impossible. Shitlibs in the USA do not have the slightest clue what is going on because they read jewish media all day and enjoy getting lied to and sticking things in their butts. Meanwhile, the world has changed dramatically since they put the last jew government run by the senile puppet in. Those fags literally bet the entire farm on taking down the Russkies and THEY FAILED. The consequences of loser wars against superpowers are real. You can only lie to your public for so long. The Americans can recover, we just have to drop the global hegemonic empire act. That's fine, it's actually bad for the American people anyway. Europe on the other hand depends entirely upon it and cannot sustain it by itself. They are screwed.

28 billion

Fucking nothing, we just wiped out 10 trillion faggot.

The whole thing is that we no longer want to let the entire world sell into our domestic market for free. We are now charging a fee. That is all that has happened and the utter butthurt that has emerged is proof that it was the right thing to do.

Maybe if you did it in a way that wasn't completely retarded people wouldn't call it retarded?

nigger we have been building modern factories in a dozen countries every year. redirecting that back to South Carolina isn't even difficult.

TRIPLE IT RECIPROCALLY DONALD
THEY DONT HAVE THE CARDS

Mine is three times yours.

Every month, after housing and healthcare, in your fake paper money, I can buy what you would buy for $7000

But I was talking about the median american who earns net $36000/y or 3000/mo. deduct $2000 for rent and $150 for healthinsurance and he has $850 left.

People who get the short-end of the stick from our new policy call it retarded? Wow, amazing.

Who's calling it retarded? You? How else are going to force companies to move manufacturing back here? Beg them? Please please please Apple come back!

Please tell me about the economic model and lifestyle of my own country that I live in for decades and know in and out.

jews in finance and literally no one is sad about that except for them.

Companies always take the cheapest viable option. A 40% tariff when a country's labour is 90% cheaper isn't going to work the way you think. You're tariffing countries where people earn $1000 a year. They're still going to undercut you even after the tariffs are included. You'll just pay more.

nigger, you don't have workers or expertise anymore.
tsmc had to bring chinx to operate your 2 nodes behind factory.

youtube.com/watch?v=L9f5SQQKr5o

be europe

tariff american semiconductors

raise prices on cars that have worse technology than american

and spontaneously combust with chinese semiconductors

who cares, american cars are set to get better tech wise then anything german

jew with $9 billion freaking out because he might only have $2 billion

That is actually dangerous though. That's shitting where they eat.

You moved goalposts from manufacturing to a specialized job. Let me ask, do you have any such experts in Romania or the EU who can do that job without shipping those experts from TSMC? I don't think so.

YES TARIFF THE US SEMICONDUCTORS THATS GENIUS NOW I CAN PAY EVEN MORE FOR MY PC PARTS FUCKING EU FAGGOTS

i don't have to, the data is publicly available and desu, most burgers i see online claim they make $2-2500/mo.
the median is what it is $36000 a year.
which means you are a nation of poorfags with an extremely rich 10%

bankrate.com/credit-cards/news/doom-spending/

nigger we have been building modern factories in a dozen countries every year.

*using cheap local labor with lax labor laws

viable option

we are changing the calculation on "viable."

You don't quite understand that much of American consumption is unnecessary. And if that consumption goes to purchase foreign goods with a tiny skim % for some amerijews then that economic activity ending entirely is not actually a problem for our economy.

The exporting countries where people earn $1k/year need to sell to us to maintain that living standard. If we stop buying, they are fucked. They will do what is necessary to keep us buying. Meanwhile, the price of goods like that increasing 20% does not actually bother the American consumer very much. We are not as price sensitive as Euros because we all have much more disposable income. Further, none of these products are difficult to manufacture domestically and basically all of them WERE manufactured domestically until relatively recently. Finally, the US is a dynamic economy that can move fast. We are able to adapt in ways you can't imagine.

In the EU, yes we do, so does Japan and China - and maybe Malaysia

sorry, Jan

Eurocrats absolutely hate you commoners

they got 30-60m illegals not in the avergage

tsmc had to bring chinx to operate your 2 nodes behind factory.

Correct, the world's most sophisticated manufacturing line had to move its workers here to get it working. That is true. Note that we were able to force them to do that.

The worst is not even your silly trade war that can end within a day.
The worst thing for you is the loss of trust and faith in the stability of your policies. These can not be regained in a short time.

Europe's tariffs, instead, are a) directed at a single country, which at most simply means finding another source for those things and b) aimed at specific industries, those that do have competition from local products and that suddenly will find themselves outmatched.

Every nation is a specific nation. USA just targeted a lot more specific nations than you faggots.

Ok post the locations of these semiconductor fabs pumping out TSMC 3nm

Do you want them to just roll over like a bitch and cop American tariffs without consequence?

those werent 1:1 it was still in their favor, this is political showmanship

Not really true. Labor costs are less than you think in the final purchase price of most goods. What no foreigners seem to get is that if prices of goods go up 25% due to increased labor costs by doing it domestically WE CAN ABSORB THAT WITHOUT ANY ISSUE.

WW3 when?

i gave tsmc as an example.
but whatever is required and lacking in foundry is also lacking in manufacturing, that's why your cars are expensive and shit.

Germany Japan and recently Indonesia all have a bigger industrial capacity than USA.
China is in a league of its own.

But by all means, make the tariffs 1488%, i wanna laugh.

In theory.

keep telling yourself that

I personally don't have a dog in this fight, I can't think of anything I've bought from a European country and I'm not selling anything to them, everything I consume is domestic, mostly from my own state, and what euro product interest I do have are 20+ year old cars, nothing new. If was pushed to buy something euro aged cheese comes to mind, prostitutes.

You gave TSMC, a company which has fabs in Taiwan (that's the T in TSMC), as an example of EU semiconductor manufacturing?

Germany Japan and recently Indonesia all have a bigger industrial capacity than USA.

You are being misled by your reading material, friend.

ban LNG and all other energy shipments, fuck the EU

I can't think of anything I've bought from a European country

I bought a really amazing cheese grater that was made in Austria recently. Will be a shame if I have to pay $3 more for the version made in Texas.

it's about capacity not existing production.

why can't you make peace with the fact that a brown country (sub 50% white) will have a brown economy.
demographics is destiny.

There are tens of millions of capable White people in America not working right now.

you collected more in tariffs on EU goods than EU on US goods.

huh? tariffs on our own products in the us? please rephrase anon

Your claim is EU has these experts, and US doesn't which is why we have to ship TSMC experts over. But in reality, you don't have these experts either.

Meanwhile regular manufacturing is largely assembly lines which does not require an educated base. You don't need a degree to put 5 screws into an iPhone and glue on a battery.

i gave tsmc as an example for your lack of industrial power (knowledge plus workforce)
tsmc CANNOT find american workers to operate the arizona fab - they are simply not alive.
if tsmc decided to build a factory in china, sk, japan, germany (maybe france, nl and sweden) or even malaysia they would be able to find workers.

You're going to get gangbanged like Piper Perri before the markets close today.
She did, as I recall, say thank you.

There are a handful of items, like iphones and TSMC, which actually are hard to migrate manufacturing for. That's fine - the price can increase with tariffs. What they don't want to talk about is how the great, vast majority of other products can easily be manufactured in the USA. In many cases the USA is where these were invented and first manufactured. We have a labor pool and the capital to finance this, plus a high tech economy to run robots and AI and high efficiency plants. We also have the natural resources to supply them.

People are mad because the USA is in a better position than their country. That's all this is.

if tsmc decided to build a factory in china, sk, japan, germany (maybe france, nl and sweden) or even malaysia they would be able to find workers.

Evidence other than your emotions?

502555406

If American business stopped buying from TSMC it would go out of business the next day. They do what we say.

yes. but we do have these experts we just lack political atrength to bully taiwan into making fabs here.
but we will get EUV from china.

us exports shit to eu
eu has tariffs on those goods
eu collected 3bn in 2024
eu exports shit to usa
usa has tariffs on those goods
usa collected 7bn

and this with a -200bn trade balance mind you.

EU is powerless relative to how tough they talk.

Bunch of larping whingers.

there are plenty of skilled people that can fill those rolls, we train people in university to do them for godssakes. people come all over the world to learn here.

we dont work for cheap however. t. highly skilled labor

im sure you can spawn engineers if you weawwy weawwy wish hard enough

m.youtube.com/watch?v=L9f5SQQKr5o

i think the sticking point was the 20%+ vat on those goods according to the administration

Foreigners don't get that the only reason the US does not do this kind of manufacturing much any longer is because of POLICY. That's the only reason.

What does spawning engineers have to do with TSMC being dependent upon American customers?

I've bought some home gym equipment from Euro brands like ATX. Plus some books. That's it in the last few years.

And I bet if I did my research that shit wasn't even manufactured in Europe either.

yes. but we do have these experts we just lack political atrength to bully taiwan into making fabs here. but we will get EUV from china.

Got it, so you have no proof.

20%+ vat

"oh that little thing" - non-based eurofags

agree. also special restriction on technologically advanced items that are pilferable secrets

the same level of "lacking" is pervasive for all industries.

your elite engineers are too dumb for tsmc
your machinists are too unptepared for steel work and automation
your factory workers (niggers and spics) are too dumb for car production
etc etc.

some industries are simply off the table (like tsmc) without foreign workers, others are doable but with lower quality and/or higher price (like your automotive shiheaps)

before tariffs you should have cleansed the nonwhites and educated your workforce and set up cheap emergy for induatrial meeds and a competent transport network and solved the drug problems and insured safe living codituons, 30y ago.

like china did

yeah i bought an Obermeyer jacket made in china, that's about it.
Euros are good designers at least...

VAT isn't a tariff, local producers pay it too, and in exactly the same amount

your elite engineers are too dumb for tsmc

your machinists are too unptepared for steel work and automation

your factory workers (niggers and spics) are too dumb for car production

etc etc.

you know you're talking to me, a millwright and machinist right

this is all complete bullshit

TSMC is a global semiconductor foundry leader in advanced

and specialty technologies and in advanced packaging
technologies. In 2023, TSMC accounted for 28% of the
worldwide semiconductor market excluding memory, a
decrease from 30% in 2022, mainly due to the semiconductor
industry inventory correction. Net revenue by geography,
calculated mainly on the country in which customer companies
are headquartered, was: 68% from North America; 12% from
China; 8% from the Asia Pacific region, excluding China and
Japan; 6% from Europe

investor.tsmc.com/sites/ir/annual-report/2023/2023_Annual_Report_E.pdf

6% from Europe

68% from North America

I'm now even less convinced Europe has these so-called experts on semiconductors.

vat is applied regardless of where a product was made, retard.
it's the same shit as your sales tax.

a car made in slovakia or a car made in usa had the same 19% vat applied.

nevermind. you win.
make the tariffs higher please.

not all states have vat or sales tax, "retard"

you charge that. we dont

a japanese/german/chinese machinist shits on your head in competence.

Fucking Leaf doesn't realize their entire Country exists within 100 miles of the US border. We could airdrop your entire population into Montana and there would still be elbow room. Truly an irrelevant people.

Ackman posts nothing but Israel nationalism and then for the US, economic globalism.

embarassing. im out.

not all eu states had the same vat retard.
but the vat was THE SAME for any product, regardless of where it was made.

your shit wasnt taxed extra you imbecile

Lol this

your cars exhibit your competence level.

It's only different in these way!

But the same in essence.

ive been in cash since september 2024 when warren buffet did it.
funny that the muppets think 10% every single year and low inflation is possible forever.

retard

car made in slovakia: 10000

car made in usa: 10000

romania, vat is 19%

slovak care price is 11900

us car is 11900

hungary, vat is 24%

slovak car is 12400

usa car is 12400

too hard for you Trayvon Sanchez?

It's only different in these ways!

Yeah, I just said that

and how were your products taxed more then, you stupid nigger