She’s correct, you know

She’s correct, you know.

I cannot hate the chinks and the ruling class

Ok retard.

good

everyone knows that
trade protectionism is a leftist platform and always has been
what the fuck clown world is this

Yes? This aligns with what we already believe, you know.

This is a National Socialist board no matter how many r/Libertarian refugees flood us.

Also this

globohomo jews did it

We know, we still blame them for it every day.

irrelevant, it is still a problem that must be fixed

No lie detected. But it was also an attempt to bring China into the ZOG fold, but the chinks saw it coming and kept jewish NGOs from gaining any real power

your globohomo jew overlords are at fault

no goyim you can’t blame them, you must let the same people remain in charge to fix it

Shalom

This. Chinks sold their own people to be the rest of the world's sweatshop workers, and of course these greedy fucks are gonna put profit over people.

Duh. You need slaves to do the shitty labor. Who else is gonna do it, you? Slavery is good, don't be such a hypocrite.

Yes. Welcome to globalism, bitch. Cheap labour on one end, cheap goods on the other. I dont know how tf the left got conned into supporting this shit.

People are greedy. Getting mad at CEOs for wanting to maximize profits is essentially getting mad that human greed simply exists. I'm all for Luigi'ing the fuck out of them all, but to act like China is absolutely blameless and innocent is wild. The Chinese government sold their people. The US Government and CEOs sold their economy.

the ((((american)))) ruling class

If America only did business with people of the same standards as them they wouldn't dominate the world.

(((American ruling class)))

both sides benefited from this though,the chinese communists just invested the profits in trains,roads,houses and schools lifting millions out of poverty.
The american elites invested in Hollywood,cocaine,rent seeking schemes,sodomy,desert wars and fast food.

The Chinese government didn't force anyone to do anything. They are blameless for western greed.

the left doesn't live in the real world

wrong, it was the machinations of utopian elitist politicians that unironically thought that you could end all wars by mixing every economy together, and it was thereby justifiable to literally genocide white inland communities via deindustrialization. the corpos weren't cause, only the facilitators (and they should still get the rope)

It actually goes beyond this it's so egregious.
The entire modern history of US and China relations have been China continually extending an olive branch of mutual cooperation and the US continually refusing because the US at the behest of Israeli zionism keeps trying to subvert and overthrow China's government. China's always "let's get rich together" and the US is always "let us establish our digital spy network infrastructure in your country", then throws a tantrum when China sets clear boundaries which do not impede mutual prosperity.
It's crazy how the only sane western political voices you have nowadays are all either neutral or positive towards China.
Jeffrey Sachs, Yanis Varoufakis, Chris Hedges, Noam Chomsky, Amy Goodman, Julian Assange, Ben Norton, Pascal Lottaz, just name a few. Their level of discourse is always higher because they're speaking from a position of honesty and it rings true. All heavily censored, I wonder why.

Listen to John Thornton:

youtube.com/watch?v=kgUX82Vh_8I

Did you know that China actually wanted Belt & Road Initiative to be a joint US-China venture? Back in 2018 during the Obama Administration, John Kerry was the liason to China and managed to secure mutual agreement with China to cooperate on BRI, but when he tried bringing this proposal to Obama, it was nebulously tanked before it even reached Obama's desk. That's how you know China was earnest about BRI being a goodwill humanitarian cooperation project and not meant as power projection, because if the US weren't so cartoonishly evil they were always willing to share the project with the US. Well, that ship has sailed now.

true
and this *american rulling clas* is called jews from israel

No it was in fact both you think Mao cared about enriching the western elites?

it is still a problem that must be fixed

If you read Bertrand Russell's (one of the most enlightened western thinkers of the last 500 years) book The Problem of China, he actually concludes that the problem lies not with China but with the west, and that the Chinese system makes more sense than the western system. Go read it, the entirety is up on youtube.

Why is she saying this as if we don't know. Of course we know. We were sold out, stabbed in the back so to speak. The only politician in the 40 years I've been alive to even bring this up is actually president. The left won't stop reeeeeing about it though

The Chinese government didn't force anyone to do anything.

The Chinese forced everyone else out of business. Or the Chinese bought the competition and closed them. It's not greed to run the math and conclude it's hopeless and that trade is unfair.

the west let the chinks join the game thinking they weren't a threat, they were wrong

Not true, that's the US modus operandi and entirely projection of the US onto China (as is always the case when they accuse China of something).
The only elements of the European auto industry left is actually being kept alive by China (Volkswagen EVs, BMW EVs etc), who didn't have to do it, but they do it because they're not looking to dominate or destroy foreign companies. If China didn't help those corporations they'd be dead against the likes of TESLA.

Everyone knows by middle school except for her. Lol.

Yes, asked correct. Now we're gonna undo that. Shouldn't have a problem with that right?

(((the american ruling class)))

The Chinese offered them an opportunity to cash in on their greed at the expense of the Chinese and American people. They're as greedy and immoral as the CEOs that shipped production there and the Governments that enabled it. All deserve to hang. Whether some deserve it more or less is semantics.

who opened up china for trade again? oh thats right a JEW

the jew is to blame once again

So go live there instead of Vancouver, Ling

yes

So she should love the tariffs then. It's the first thing introduced that puts a hurdle in exploiting global inequality.

China is at fault because they wanted to build their economy up, and western US jews were all gleefully excited to fuck their own nation over to help the chinks

No, I blame the jews

muh WTO

No you're deluded. It ultimately doesn't and didn't matter whether China was allowed in the WTO, because of one stark point of reality, which is that 60% of the world's population live in Asia alone.
China is historically a massive producer and consumer, without WTO they would have formed their own robust trade relations with other countries regardless.
With the WTO the western world actually had more oversight on China than would have been otherwise granted.
The reality is that western nations are in their totality, bit players on the world stage and have only in the last century out of millennia had a disproportionately larger influence on trade, which was always untenable to maintain as it was a product of inperial subjugation and was always going to end one way or another.

China and India alone could trade, China and Russia alone could trade, China or SEA could trade, China or Africa could trade, China or South America could trade, each solely independently and be entirely sustainable without participation from the rest or the western world at all. China and EU could trade and be entirely sustainable without participation of the US either.

weird way to say its the Jews, but ok

China to join the WTO

From the horses mouth: education.cfr.org/learn/reading/what-happened-when-china-joined-wto

Exploiting global nequality

That's inevitable. And irrelevant.
What she fails to identify is that it was at the expense of the White American worker. That's where the true tragedy lays.

So what if she is correct. The end result is the same, truthfully it was probably both that happened.

Western countries are actually fighting for Asian immigrants to settle in their countries hand over fist despite the narrative of "muh illegal Chinese immigrants coming up through Mexico".
It's a deflection, they are actually tsundere for immigrants. Meanwhile Asians just like to travel the world (as do most people).

Clinton/Wallmart
stop pretending democrats aren't part of the problem

Great, we agree.
Now lets employ some good ol' nationalist strategies, which may sound a bit like socialism to shitty libertarians, to on-shore some of our most critical industries.

100%. It has never been about control over supply lines it always about inequality.

She's right and wrong.

the majority jewish US ruling class IS exploiting the third world to explode their profit margins

China should be blamed for selling their population into sweatshop slavery, and using children, prisoners, political prisoners, and actual slaves to fill the factories

Canadian pretends China INNOCENT

This is exactly why we're going to control large swaths of Canada, you cocksuckers whored yourselves out to powerful CCP interests and that's intolerable for a nation on the border of the global hegemon.

This is retarded. China was trying to get into the WTO for a long time, they were always massively overproduction (as they are now) and they wanted most favored nation status. Because of Mao it took them way longer to modernize like their neighbors like South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong etc. China was backwards even in the 90s, their big step was being allowed into the WTO so they could steal IPs in order to modernize faster.

It doesn't matter how many people they have if they are still backwards (especially outside of the major cities) when your people can't consume as China is constantly devaluing their currency further destroying people's savings. If people were the main thing that mattered, India would be more than a 4T economy as they have more people than China, but China is already facing a crisis by 2050 with their population, way more men than women and too few children.

A bit of both with the overall goal to claim dominance over China and then the entire world. Fortunately the Chinks caught on to the jewish tricks before it got out of hand. Now its time for Americans to push back too.

She's half correct. The other part of it is the Democrats and Leftists pushing regulations that make it unprofitable for corporations to keep their manufacturing here in the U.S. or hire American workers. So both sides are responsible for sending jobs overseas to the Chinese and Indians. Leftists don't really mind hiring foreigners since those foreigners are non-White(and non-American).

That is why I support seizing the assets of anyone that profits from outsourcing, placing them in camps and forcing them to work to earn their freedom.

why does it matter who is responsible?

Also, the chinese themselves have actively engaged in some awful behaviour to protect their position and destroy industry in other countries, like mass dumping knockoffs of varying quality levels, buying up and running down industry in foreign markets like they just tried to do with thst bongland refinery, the shit they're doing with those armed fishing fleets, etc.

Market interventionism isn’t left or right

"to the American ruling class" - it also went to pensions funds and pensioners in general, not just the super rich.

jew memeflag

noooo goyim stop noticing, it went into the uh... the pensions yeah those oy vey the pensions

Globalists = Capitalists

It's really so simple they're both the same people

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do we really need a thread of 70 people telling 1pbtid OP "we know"? Just resist the urge to post, you fucking children. I know it's rare for you to get a chance to show your 5th grade intelligence but there are better threads

It's true, unless you have a government that operates for the benefit of the nation's people, then the end result of capitalism is globalism.
Profit-chasing allows one to sell everything value a nation has.

Lol ok chang

Meanwhile Asians just like to travel the world (as do most people).

Most people don't travel the world.

All the WTO actually does is normalize trade relations with a country.
India joined WTO 6 years before China did.

Yes.
It was also a strategy by China to take the US manufacturing capacity.

What about this is supposed to make me mad? We know this already. That's why I wanted tariffs in the first place.

the American ruling class

kikes and shabbos goys

When the fuck are these pathetic faggots going to call it what is? It's no great fucking secret anymore.

EVERYONE KNOWS

us fixing it means you swinging from a lamp post remember that while you talk shit.

lower trade barriers, investor confidence access to global markets, easier export etc. don't matter! the wto does nothing!

This is actually pointless to talk about because you have no idea what you're talking about or what happened when China joined the WTO, what the WTO means or what getting permanent most favored nation status with the US meant and why China's GDP increased like 1400% since joining the WTO.

So Greedy people are the problem?

Thanks for making it clear what the issue is.

So Greedy people are the problem?

always have been

Those trade barriers were completely artificial in the first place.
You're basically stuck between a rock and a hard place in your twisted argument because WTO isn't some magic get rich card.
So either you'll have to conceded China was actually exceptional in some regard or admit WTO admission only went according to an inevitable trend.

She is. All short term greed and profit margins. Not to say China bribery also didn't sweeten the deal and our government ignoring the issues it would cause.

The trade barriers exist for a reason, joining it and getting the benefits of it, also declaring yourself as a developing country for additional exemptions by wanting to still be declared a developing nation, even today. China is not exceptional as it both gets to violate most of the rules of the WTO, steals IP (leads to no R&D), employs near slave labor, no safety or environmental standards, no worker rights among many other things that increase the costs for western nations as the CCP can get away with this, things that their neighbors like South Korea, Japan or Taiwan adhere to, they would be exceptional, China in comparison, especially with their large population, is not and basically has only ruined free trade with unfair practices that other countries are not allowed to use. But it's clear you have little to no understanding about any of this.

trade barriers exist for a reason

Indeed?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunboat_diplomacy

And who determines whether a country can freely trade or not?
If you're talking about the world, then most of the world's countries want to trade freely (and are) with China.
So the US view does not represent the democratic will of the world at large.
If Africa or SEA wants to trade with China, what business is it of the US'? I want you to think very carefully about this, because it's exactly the same reason why US is trying to start WWIII.

Trade barriers are a tool that CAN have legitimate reasons to exist.
However, just like IP laws, they are abused nowadays for the sole purpose of stifling innovation and trade respectively, and in the case of China, abused to 'contain China'.
But the point is moot because if you look at the history of the world, China has for the majority made up the bulk of the world's total trade.

People always think that the shit in the world is either human nature OR conspiracies.
In reality, conspiracy is part of human nature, powerstruggles are a part of human nature, and a world has plenty of shit, some of it is greed, some is incompetence, some is power struggles and conspiracies, and most of it is a headless blunder.
Moving from a manufacturing econoy to a service economy envolves the greed of corporations, the shortsightedness and greed of politicians, lazyness of workers, and the utter lunacy that is globalism. There are many more factors i'm sure, there may even be a conspiracy or two in there, no doubt this move that makes america more voulnerable in war time is beneficial to many world powers.

Another statistic for you.

worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/

China has 17.20% of the world's population.
They currently have 16.76% share of world GDP.
So pretty nominal and fair.
Meanwhile, the US makes up 4.22% of the world population and yet has 26.11% share of world GDP.
So I actually agree with you. The world should put up trade barriers and embargo the US, you fucking hypocrite.

26.11% share of world GDP.

Yea and how much of that is concentrated into a group of like 10 guys? who then direct that flow of money into wasteful bullshit like isreal

It's "nigger in the woodpile", whore. You're lying from the start, you cunt.

True. And yet the "left" and democrats are dead set against any attempt to bring that same manufacturing back to the US because orange man bad. You think tariffs are a bad idea because they'll require a tough love period? Suggest something else instead of do nothing but impede

Good post

Carl Weiss wasn't a Jew. He was a German-American.

Huey Long had no chance of being president in 1936.

Yea it's ridiculous. Americans are totally working 6 times harder than the rest of the world am I right. Totally not abusing their position as world police/terrorist.

Totally not abusing their position as world police/terrorist.

its not normal American citizens doing it , its wealthy cuntbags operating within the West. these people should be killed obviously , but a normie ameriburger isent abusing their power, no to stupid for the most part.

is she going to go work in the fabulous new american factories? maybe she can knit the nets that avoid jumpers from dying

chinks were like noooooo america dont pay me a dollar an hour to sew shoes and jump into a suicide net

ermm actually it's both sweaty

And who determines whether a country can freely trade or not?

The WTO determines that, the WTO exists to stabilize trade and create rules for trade to make it fair and free. If you are using slave labor obviously gives you an advantage, most or all businesses in China getting government subsidize, devaluing their own currency to reduce tariffs instead of addressing the reason why tariffs are there etc. The CCP has never cared about their own people, and just see them as a tool to expand their empire. Other countries in the WTO play by the rules and get ahead, China is the one that violates the rules the most and steals the most IPs to prop up their economy. If they were smart they wouldn't be way overproduction on most of their products, overproduction on things that there isn't even a market for.

China has 17.20% of the world's population. They currently have 16.76% share of world GDP.

Germany has 1% of the world's population with a 4.2% share of the GDP.
Japan is 1.5% of the world's population with a 3.96% of the GDP
I don't know why you think China is so exceptional, when they violate the rules of the WTO for favorable trade relations and legitimacy with other countries in the WTO, but their population is larger than their share of the world GPD. Sure they are more exceptional than like India, but not most of their neighbors.

This is all just nonsensical and doesn't prove any kind of point for you.

canada

this is just two chinese nationals talking to each other

The chinks deliberately operated at a loss subsidized by their government and passed it off as permanent low-costs. It absolutely was a chink plot, just one the boomers were in on.

WTO determines that

And the WTO are in favour of China, as are most of the world. Trump was threatening to leave it lol.

most or all businesses in China getting government subsidize

Same as western businesses, nothing new. Pot calling kettle black.
The difference is that the west abuse their powers to hamper foreign nations like US did to Japan with the Plaza Accord.

The CCP has never cared about their own people, and just see them as a tool to expand their empire

The CCP doesn't care about their people and yet treats them better with social programs and works than the US does. It's actually hilarious you're trying to bring up this point in 2025 when one of the main things people in the west are disillusioned by are that their government doesn't give a crap about their opinions, continuing to fund Israel in Gaza when it has a 99% US population disapproval rate.

Germany has 1% of the world's population with a 4.2% share of the GDP.

Japan is 1.5% of the world's population with a 3.96% of the GDP

Indeed, those are US vassals and are getting an unfair share of the pie for colluding with the US. So let's hear you criticize every country getting an unfair share before China you hypocrite.

I don't know why you think China is so exceptional

Good, let's agree China isn't exceptional then and therefore you should have no problems with their current share of trade. What was this discussion about again?
I literally won this argument forever, you're just grasping now.
Let's see you squirm some more.

Not that the capitalist class of America didn't do this, but China absolutely planned for it and took advantage of it.
Stupid cunt

Idiot we are the same chink on multiple computers having a conversation with ourselves, fuck off

Someone is debating this? Of course it's true. China was just happy to oblige. Now what does this person suggest for course correction? Or are they one of the "stay the course forever because the alternative is too difficult" people?

Ya those dumb chinks should've been grateful and not tried to build themselves up and stayed slaves to the west. Don't they know this is supposed to be a zero sum game? Can't take this board seriously anymore. Thought processes are no different than the myopic lens boomers see the world thru

Nah. It was both. Greedy cunts across the world and China knowing it could slave its citizenry into 1st world status.

Outsourcing jobs to China for cheap labor is the inverse of importing cheap foreign labor. Some jobs you can't outsource, like construction and agriculture work, which have to be done on-site.

The cause of both is the elites' desire for cheap labor, which goes back a long way in history, all the way to slavery, which was nothing but the important of cheap labor to further enrich the elites.

And the WTO are in favour of China, as are most of the world.

Not really, that is why places like the EU and Canada have heavy tariffs on specific Chinese industries like EVs and solar panels. The only reason this has been allowed to go on for so long is because China has a large market that people want access too, but as time has gone on this has only resulting in constant stole IPs (leads to China not needing R&D) of companies that manufacture there and then squeezing them out of the Chinese market (like VW). China thought they could cozy up to the EU after Trump's tariff war (which was stupid because he should have mostly focused on China and transshipment countries), but that likely won't do much.

The CCP doesn't care about their people and yet treats them better with social programs and works than the US does.

Yes, continue to just eat bitterness and believe that. The US can talk much more openly about their problems, and the US has a lot of problems, and they don't need police approval to protest, while China continue to stop reporting on hundreds of economic indicators.

Indeed, those are US vassals and are getting an unfair share of the pie for colluding with the US

more deflection and excuses as to why China lags behind their neighbors, but maybe if you exclude the rural population that are exploited constantly with basically no actual protections with the hukou system the GDP looks much better.

Hey country flaggot, It’s definitely not tariff everyone. Try not being an incel.

Why not? Companies will 100% not produce in the U.S. even with tax rates at 0% because it's still cheaper overseas. We've tried that. So why not just tariff the fuck out of everyone? If it's only hurting us, then why did Canada, China, etc. lose their fucking minds over it?

that is why places like the EU and Canada have heavy tariffs on specific Chinese industries like EVs and solar panels

Even if EU and Canada unilaterally disapproved of China (which they don't, they're expanding ties as we speak), together they make up 28 of the world's 195 countries. Most of the world approves of China. Watch the John Thornton video I posted above, he puts it into perspective. >The only reason this has been allowed to go on for so long is because China has a large market that people want access too, but as time has gone on this has only resulting in constant stole IPs (leads to China not needing R&D) of companies that manufacture there and then squeezing them out of the Chinese market (like VW).
Not historically. Historically China has had an even larger market for most of recorded human history. Also the R&D IP thefts while have happened, are overstated and China is literally world leader in multiple frontier technologies. Eventually the whole 'can only steal' narrative will be completely demolished.

Yes, continue to just eat bitterness and believe that. The US can talk much more openly about their problems, and the US has a lot of problems, and they don't need police approval to protest, while China continue to stop reporting on hundreds of economic indicators.

Are you kidding? You DO need police approval to protest in the US, you can't just protest anywhere you like.

aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights

And we've seen how much freedom of speech means in the US time and time again with the Occupy Wallstreet movement, BLM, etc. Do you even know what's happening right now in universities in the US? They fired two Ivy League presidents for not falling in line with the zionist agenda, they fired multiple professors for condoning free speech on university campuses and have expelled/arrested hundreds of university students for exercising their right.

youtube.com/watch?v=fgx2xH8iMjM

excuses as to why China lags behind their neighbors

Good, then we both agree China should get more of the world trade.

Aaaaaaaaand drumpf is wrong for wanting to put an end to that becaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuse...?

Watch the John Thornton video I posted above, he puts it into perspective

BRI is also a failed initiative for construction purposes, where they go into a country, halfway build things, don't hire locally so the money just goes back to china, these poorer countries can't pay for these unfinished projects and then China just takes control of mineral rights/ports as compensation. Why would the US want to join this insanely corrupt initiative. It's far from good will or humanitarian, china just announces these big projects, doesn't finish them and then steals from the country as compensation.

Not historically. Historically China has had an even larger market for most of recorded human history.

China use to be a great county before the first opium war, and then the CCP which drove it backwards and decided they wanted to erase Chinese history and culture (until they realized it was a source of soft power and opened up the Confucius institute in 2004). It only really started to industrialize after Mao died and by then it was way behind.

Are you kidding? You DO need police approval to protest in the US, you can't just protest anywhere you like.

You aren't even reading you own link. You can protest anywhere you like in the US, police can do things like ask you to move out of the road if you are obstructing traffic or designate areas but they cannot stop you from protesting, which is why we have many impromptu protests all over. In China you need police or government approval to even be allowed to protest.

They fired two Ivy League presidents for not falling in line with the zionist agenda, they fired multiple professors for condoning free speech on university campuses and have expelled/arrested hundreds of university students for exercising their right.

Sure, and the zionist agenda in the US is a problem, because boomers were trained to worship Israel after WWII and AIPAC never had to register as a foreign PAC after Kennedy was assassinated.

This. Reminder that china and western nations worked in tandem during the covid hoax.
Also the banking history in china. I wonder where the rothschilds sent their gold

BRI is also a failed initiative

BRI has barely even begun. It's a long-term goal.

China use to be a great county before the first opium war, and then the CCP which drove it backwards and decided they wanted to erase Chinese history and culture (until they realized it was a source of soft power and opened up the Confucius institute in 2004). It only really started to industrialize after Mao died and by then it was way behind.

You're just posting opinions. By most hard metrics China today is better than it was immediately pre-opium war.

You aren't even reading you own link. You can protest anywhere you like in the US, police can do things like ask you to move out of the road if you are obstructing traffic or designate areas but they cannot stop you from protesting, which is why we have many impromptu protests all over. In China you need police or government approval to even be allowed to protest.

You need government approval to protest in any space that isn't public, and in some cases you need approval to protest in public spaces as well. And neither of these aren't even true anymore in the US as we've seen with the university protests. It's why you typically need to register or alert the city you're going to stage a protest, it's for approval, and why here in Canada they were allowed to dismantle the trucker convoy.

Yes, none of us dispute this

Only half correct. Because it's technically both. Chinese took advantage of western corporate greed.

Donald Trump is a 90s democrat.
Every position he holds is one democrats claimed to hold before their party became obsessed with gay sex under Obama.

She's literally an old roasty that gives no fucks for the future. He's line ends with her and she's worse than a nigger cause she can mentally look ahead into the future. Also she's just paid to spew shit out of her mouth. I hope she gets sand in her pussy.

I've been saying that for years.
Why should we care if American companies go bankrupt when they've sold out Americans for decades?

Rich white westerners partnered with rich whiteish jews and rich yellow communists to fuck everyone else.
That's the past 50 years of global politics summarized in a single sentence.

190 IQ post right here.

liberals will say this and then in the same breath say we cant force tariffs on China because it will hurt the bottom line of these same greedy CEOs

safety or environmental regulations

So things need to be expensive in order to not hurt the egos of muh wumun and PETA maniacs?
What's this? Simp Global economy?

you will own nothing and you will be happy, like an obedient beta cuck

BRI has barely even begun. It's a long-term goal.

BRI was started in 2013 and the only reason it exists is to expand China's power in poor nations to gain control of their resources while at the same time announcing to the world they are doing these big humanitarian projects, that of course they use their own people instead of hiring locally so money does not flow into those countries, while leaving a lot of them half done because these poor countries obviously cannot pay for them so they have to relinquish things like mining rights and ports.

You're just posting opinions. By most hard metrics China today is better than it was immediately pre-opium war.

When I say better, most countries are better now than they were 200 years ago because of modernization, but in terms of culture, China lost a lot of the culture that made it such a draw after the CCP decided to destroy Chinese history.

You need government approval to protest in any space that isn't public

You probably mean in public spaces, because you can do what you want on your own property. You do not need government approval though and people can just do it, standing on a street corner or marching in the street. In china you have to get approval from the government as per Article 7 of the law of the PRC on Assemblies, they can deny your approval depending on what you are protesting too. Trump can't ban a protest in front of Trump tower. In China people can't protest things like the zero COVID policy that was so disastrous and the CCP tracked down people who did at the blank paper protest, they tracked people down through their cellphones and even allegedly went after the paper manufacturers. Not to mention the Chinese internet and their tight controls over that that separates most of China from the world, outside of the VPN users.

Except people like you always forget about the logistics of getting shit from one place to another.
There's a reason piracy used to be a major concern during colonialism.

but piracy hasn't existed for a long time

Yeah, because when global trade is dominated by a single maritime power they are incentivized to suppress it.
This is what the US has been doing for 80 years now, and the British did for over a century before us.
In the world you're talking about where a major geopolitical rival is seeking to create a massive independent trade bloc, our incentive actually reverses.
In that situation the maritime powers of the world become incentivized to promote piracy each other to disrupt each other's trade networks.
This is what happened when the English and Spanish were competing for maritime supremacy and led to the age of piracy as we remember it.
The trade routes that China currently relies on to source raw materials from Africa and energy from the ME are currently 100% controlled by the US navy.
Yes they are international waters, but they are patrolled by the US navy and not really anybody else.
If the chinese chose to adopt an openly adversarial trade relationship with the US by cutting off trade relations and seeking to build an independent network what makes you think we would continue to keep those shipping lanes secure and wouldnt begin active piracy measures of our own.
We've seen how much the houthis have been able to disrupt trade already now just imagine what a group sympathetic to the west and armed and equipped with American weapons could do.

and the only reason it exists is to expand China's power in poor nations to gain control of their resources while at the same time announcing to the world they are doing these big humanitarian projects

You should talk less and listen more. Literally debunked several posts ago. Listen to this:

youtube.com/watch?v=kgUX82Vh_8I&t=1271

When I say better, most countries are better now than they were 200 years ago because of modernization, but in terms of culture, China lost a lot of the culture that made it such a draw after the CCP decided to destroy Chinese history.

China is also better now than 200 years ago because of modernization.
In terms of history, because of meticulous record keeping and general preservation of artifacts, China still has more extant history and culture or their own today than most other countries. More than the US, more than England. Culture is not a pissing contest regardless so I don't know why you're bringing this up.

You probably mean in public spaces, because you can do what you want on your own property. You do not need government approval though and people can just do it, standing on a street corner or marching in the street

You can split hairs on the minutiae of protesting as much as you like, the demonstration rights of each country are effectively the same. You can protest anything you want anywhere as long as it doesn't cause civil unrest or as long as you're not protesting those in power.

Those are some reasons as to why manufacturing domestically is so much more expensive, because of the governmental rules and regulations make it more expensive. If we could have an underclass, like China has with rural people, it would be even cheaper, it's a reason why they push for illegal immigration in the US to pick crops for slave wages, because they want an underclass in the US, and it would lower the cost of labor as well as lower the quality of life for a lot of other people, but at least the line would go up, like it has steadily since the US was able to exploit cheap Chinese labor and lack of expensive safety standards, the top got richer, but the middle class started to be destroyed and businesses that couldn't move their manufacturing to China to avoid US regulations, would be destroyed, usually meaning small business.

It's our business when they deploy influence ops to try and steer our domestic politics to treat them more favorably.
I know we do this too, it's just want countries do, but that's the game that's being played and we're playing to win.
The cold hard reality is that there aren't enough resources on earth for everyone to have the lifestyle of Americans.
This means for us to stay prosperous, China needs to be suppressed.
That's just the way of things.

Might makes right.

I would point out that as a Canadian you benefit from this system too simply by existing in our shadow, however, I know that you are most likely not truly canadian but rather a chink living in Vancouver.

conspiracy

chinese and american leaders wanted money and didn't give a shit about the lives of their people
is that confusing for some people to understand?

Finally we can have a real conversation.
You guys always make it so difficult by trying to gaslight people with some moral grandstanding.
Again, I'll direct you to the John Thornton video above:

youtube.com/watch?v=kgUX82Vh_8I

Because he skips the diatribe and gets straight to the heart of the matter.
In 2050 there will be 10 billion people on earth.
We can either ignore the pressing matters that plague humanity and might end our story on earth, or we can cooperate to solve real problems.
You want to talk about the greater good? That's the greatest good.

Yeah everybody knows it was the jews

antisemite bitch.

she

correct

Of course she's right, anyone can point out a problem. But does she have a solution? Because I do. It is called national socialism, but you would have to call it something else to market it today. No matter what you call it, it is a system of government that would have never allowed this mess to be made in the first place. The funny thing is, national socialism is the best compromise that would satisfy the most people on both the left and the right in the USA. Just have to rename it. Let me be clear that I am only refferring to national socialism as a system and philosophy of government, separate from the ideal of the NSDAP regime. Every nation will implement national socialism differently. China has already. Some Muslim nations as well. The only people that do not want it are the billionaire elites. It doesn't benefit them at all. Everybody else prospers.

Carl Weiss wasn't a Jew. He was a German-American.

With Jewish ancestry

this

That's the thing, I'm not interested in the greater good.
Nobody is.
I'm interested in the wellbeing of myself and my family.
BY extension this means I'm interested in the wellbeing of my nation (it's easier to prosper in a prosperous nation).
It unlikely that we will reach 10bn people.
Current estimates put the current carrying capacity of the planet with modern technology at 11bn, but we will see a collapse of social order and global supply chains long before that point that will lead to wars and famine.
Life isn't fair though, so these events will mostly affect the developing world as opposed to the developed world.
There's a reason some countries had a head start during industrialization, they have better geographies that allow them to concentrate economic power internally and thus project military power externally.
There is a reason china fell behind the western world during the Renaissance era.
They lack the domestic resources to be an industrial power.
China has only been able to industrialize in the last century because of access to the global market that allowed them to acquire raw materials.
China lacks the force projection power to establish their own colonial empire, particularly if they are being actively resisted by the US in their attempt.
Meanwhile, the US has all of the basics domestically to have an industrial economy and support force projection capabilities.
That's not to say autarky would be a luxurious lifestyle for the average American, im just saying it's a viable option if shit hits the fan.
And given the current developments in Pakistan the global temperature has risen just a bit higher.
Peter ziehan is the strategist who has done the analysis on all of this, and he predicted that as the global trade system collapsed there would be 5 major wars that occurred as a result.
Ukrain-russia was the first, pakistan-india appears to be the second and israel-iran seems likely to be the third.

You should talk less and listen more. Literally debunked several posts ago.

Listen to this:

He doesn't debunk anything there, I don't know if the timestamp was wrong, but he's just talking about Kerry not getting the BRI project to Obama and that it's for

harmony between man an nature, common prosperity

these are all buzz words, he doesn't actually talk about the BRI project or any of the specifics or what they are doing other than the talking points you would read in a CCP propaganda pamphlet.

In terms of history, because of meticulous record keeping and general preservation of artifacts, China still has more extant history and culture or their own today than most other countries. More than the US, more than England. Culture is not a pissing contest regardless so I don't know why you're bringing this up.

The main thing that was preserved was the state archives, but the CCP during the cultural revolution destroyed millions of texts, artifacts and temples, it wasn't even until the 80s when they started rebuilding their history, even editing ancient texts with state propaganda, the rewriting of Chinese history intensified after Tiananmen Square. A lot of China's history was lost because of the communists and their forced destruction of four olds. But culture IS a form of soft power, something the CCP didn't realize it wanted on the world stage until recently, when they brought back the Confucius institute in 2004, which generally aligns with CCP talking points, as rewriting history is a big part of CCP legitimacy.

You can split hairs on the minutiae of protesting as much as you like, the demonstration rights of each country are effectively the same.

They are definitely not, in China you need approval from the authorities and they can deny your request based on what you are protesting. No such thing exists in the US because the right to protest whatever you want is guaranteed, they are not the same at all.

I'm interested in the wellbeing of myself and my family.

The wellbeing of your family is directly tied to the greater good in the context we're speaking about.
Watch the fucking video and stop talking.
John Thornton is talking about the near future, 2050.
If you allow the US to initiate WWIII in the next decade, your family are going to be ash if they haven't starved to death. To say nothing of climate change.

He doesn't debunk anything there, I don't know if the timestamp was wrong, but he's just talking about Kerry not getting the BRI project to Obama and that it's for

Keep listening dude, he literally says BRI is not a malevolent tactic to get control of the world on part of the Chinese.

these are all buzz words, he doesn't actually talk about the BRI project or any of the specifics or what they are doing other than the talking points you would read in a CCP propaganda pamphlet.

That part specifically is about "chinese modernization". BRI is part of the chinese modernization project but they're not hte same thing.

The main thing that was preserved was the state archives, but the CCP during the cultural revolution destroyed millions of texts, artifacts and temples, it wasn't even until the 80s when they started rebuilding their history, even editing ancient texts with state propaganda, the rewriting of Chinese history intensified after Tiananmen Square. A lot of China's history was lost because of the communists and their forced destruction of four olds. But culture IS a form of soft power, something the CCP didn't realize it wanted on the world stage until recently, when they brought back the Confucius institute in 2004, which generally aligns with CCP talking points, as rewriting history is a big part of CCP legitimacy.

And they still have more extant preservation of their history than England does of their own. Again you're betrayed by your hyperfocus on standards of China you don't apply to anyone else.

They are definitely not, in China you need approval from the authorities and they can deny your request based on what you are protesting.

Actually, you don't lol. You can stand on a street corner loudly protesting your local official and no one cares in China.

No such thing exists in the US because the right to protest whatever you want is guaranteed

Again, debunked a few posts ago >youtube.com/watch?v=fgx2xH8iMjM

She's not wrong, but she's missing the point.

China has 100% been abusing the trade deficit by applying tariffs on USA while USA hasn't been applying tariffs on China.

you no

he literally says BRI is not a malevolent tactic to get control of the world on part of the Chinese.

Well yeah, he's not going to be giving a talk at a Chinese university if he was going to say it was malevolent, he doesn't talk about anything substantive as to what they are doing or why it's good, just that it is an attempt to modernize China.

Actually, you don't lol. You can stand on a street corner loudly protesting your local official and no one cares in China.

You can, but you can be arrested for that, you need government approval

For the holding of an assembly, a procession or a demonstration for which an application has to be made under this Law, the responsible person(s) must submit an application in writing to the competent authorities five days prior to the date of the activity. The application shall specify the purposes of the assembly, procession or demonstration, how it is going to be conducted, the posters and slogans to be used, the number of participants, the number of vehicles, the specifications and quantities of the sound facilities to be used, the starting and finishing time, the places (including places where the participants assemble and disperse), the route, and the name(s), occupation(s) and address(es) of the person(s) responsible for the assembly, procession or demonstration.

rightofassembly.info/country/china

This is nothing similar to the US. They can also reject your application to protest as well.

Again, debunked a few posts ago

That doesn't debunk anything, BLM protests were happening all over the country, the only time they shut them down was when they get violent, and even then they allowed them to riot. There was no censorship of the BLM protests (riots) that those far leftists are defending. The protests on campus became obstructive to students, you have the right to protest, the campuses are also not public spaces but the crackdowns on them were only because of the Israel first members of government.

The trade deficit pretext is also bunk btw.

China has 100% been abusing the trade deficit

Fucking lol.
Do you even know why the trade deficit exists? It was created by design in 1971.
The US in the 1960s started noticing a growing deficit which signaled the imminent decline of empires, so they (Volker, Kissinger) hatched a plan to leverage the US trade deficit into boon by means of making the USD the reserve currency. They went to Saudi Arabia to convince them to adopt the petrodollar. That way, the USD will always be desirable and the negative effects of trade deficit could be mitigated.
So US borrowed a shit ton of money from itself to buy foreign goods en masse. German and Japanese cars, electrics etc. These foreign holders of capital in turn used that money and pumped it directly back into wallstreet and US real estate. So the whole trade deficit was not only the US' fault, but by design.
Why are they complaining about it now? Because there are payment systems and currencies threatening to sidestep the USD entirely, which poses an existential threat to the US because if USD ceases to be the world reserve currency, all the deficit spending will come home to roost, and the US will collapse for real.

nakedcapitalism.com/2012/02/the-global-minotaur-an-interview-with-yanis-varoufakis.html

Coal country here. Been bustin’ knuckles and drinkin’ bottom-shelf bourbon since Bush Sr. Called Biden “Sleepy Joe” until my jaw hurt.

Then I saw this hand-blown crystal dragon bong from Guangzhou. Had LED eyes and a USB charger. I don’t even smoke anymore—I just needed to feel again.

$112 to order.
$138 in “ceremonial glassware counterbalance fees.” Said it was part of a 2020 “China deterrent initiative” that I once called “genius” on a call-in radio show.

Now I sit on the porch starin’ at the damn thing like it’s judgment made solid. Ate one egg for breakfast. One. Like it’s the Great Depression, but with shame accessories.

no shit, sherlock

it was the response to marxist unions making demands

She's halfway there. Exploitation of their lower classes to work in dogshit conditions for the benefit of the Han.

Well yeah, he's not going to be giving a talk at a Chinese university if he was going to say it was malevolent, he doesn't talk about anything substantive as to what they are doing or why it's good, just that it is an attempt to modernize China.

WATCH THE FUCKING TALK DUDE.
He literally later on goes to demarcate things he's critical on China about and states bluntly where he curtails his opinion. The BRI is simply not an area he holds any critical opinion on China about.
This is why you need to listen before you talk.

You can, but you can be arrested for that, you need government approval

Same as the US.

This is nothing similar to the US. They can also reject your application to protest as well.

thecity.nyc/2025/03/14/trumpo-columbia-mahmoud-khalil-noor-abdalla-ranjani-srinivasan-leqaa-kordia/

You live under a rock. The same and worse things are already happening in the US right now.

That doesn't debunk anything, BLM protests were happening all over the country, the only time they shut them down was when they get violent, and even then they allowed them to riot.

Google the current university student Free Palestine protests. They literally arrested hundreds of non-violent protestors exercising free speech in spaces designated for free speech protest on university campuses, and Trump is witholding tens of millions of dollars from multiple universities in funding to coerce them to crack down with authoritarian police force on the students. And this is after they fire presidents, fired professors, and are staging hostile takeovers on university boards:

youtube.com/watch?v=PuIb4j_hxSw

Another full video on this exact topic.

that's why corporations cant really hit back. if they do, trump can bring this argument out.

Exact timestamp:

youtube.com/watch?v=PuIb4j_hxSw&t=1172

Hope the looking out for his family guy is still here because it won't be long before his children are literally going to be studying in China for a real education if these attacks on US universities keep up.

Stop incorporating shame items into every post. You just make it easier to parse.
You are bad at what you do.

American ruling class.....

tweet spam. no effort. part of an identical series of threads

When you are paid to ignore the ccpenis you ignore the ccpenis in the room.

that also applies to immigration and multiculturalism

We fucking know, dipshit.

Which is exactly why tariffs are needed to wean us off their slave labor.

Yeah, duh. That isn’t some spit take. That’s common sense.

Well no shit who is really debating that?

And theeeeeeeeen!?!?

Yeah, that's why every chink and jeet must starve to death now that we're leaving their shit holes

Lmao chink detected
Like a fly to shit or a simp to give send go by god just lmao

Absolutely based

Only Americans call lower cost of living "global inequality". Why play the clown's part?

Cry more chang
China also reaped rewards from American finance

Lmao

That's how trade works, it's mutually beneficial.

This that’s what I have always said about colonialism and how didn’t end but just evolved

WATCH THE FUCKING TALK DUDE.

He literally later on goes to demarcate things he's critical on China about and states bluntly where he curtails his opinion. The BRI is simply not an area he holds any critical opinion on China about.

This is why you need to listen before you talk.

I'm not going to watch an hour talk of him glazing China and talking about nothing substantial, the place you linked me and about 10 minutes through the only thing that was a generality was him saying Kerry couldn't bring the BRI to Obama for a collaborative effort. Link me the exact time stamp where he talks specifically about the specifics of the BRI, not just the general "harmony between man and nature and collaborative prosperity"

Same as the US.

It's not, as I linked you your own requirements by law where you have to get approval from the government, listing the person responsible for the assembly and all their data five days before you protest and they can deny it. There is nothing the same about it.

You live under a rock. The same and worse things are already happening in the US right now.

Colleges preventing students from protesting on campus is not the same as the government stopping protests in public. The Trump administration is overreaching by trying to pull federal funding if they don't comply, and it will probably be struck down in court. Just like Biden tried to overreach his authority but gets slapped down by the courts, something that does not happen in China because there are no checks on the government.

because it's still cheaper overseas

Not anymore sweetie
Lol

Notice how this post takes a misused term (“trade deficit”) and runs with it mindlessly? That’s because it’s a botpost. At best, someone fed the post it’s responding to into a language model and told it to be disagreeable. Copy, paste, post.

China should get more

No commies should get shit and fucking starve like the good old days

This is the right answer. But of course jews want to turn China into a scapegoat.

But China dosnt follow the rules so they can get the fuck out
Ching Chongs have always been arrogant shits acting like niggers
Thinking their the center of the universe like retards and nothings changed
They have learned nothing the last 1000 years so we shouldn’t be helping them

Similar to the middle class with their spending habits, the ruling class could probably come up with some gymnastics to avoid accountability. In the end it's just a normie cope because they want the iphone but don't want to feel bad about it

Let's count the accusations of things the US was doing themselves:

The west accused China of spying through their tech.

Decades later, still no evidence there was any spyware in Huawei devices. But the US has documented spyware in intel chips, PEGASUS that can access any smartphone, literally caught wiretapping all EU politicians, cambridge analytica data scandal, everything revealed by Julian Assange and Edward Snowden in wikileaks on mass domestic surveillance.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equation_Group

accuse China of warmongering

China only fought one (1) war in the last hundred years, which only last one month where they could even have remotely been classified as the aggressor. Has like two military bases abroad. US fought countless wars, destabilized several dozen countries, killed and displaced several millions of people, has 750 military bases abroad, some right up to foreign superpowers whom they antagonize.

accuses China of Xinjiang genocide

US was built on genociding the native americans, played cool for two hundred years then started directly aiding Israel in its genocide campaign.

accuses China of exploiting developing countries for natural resources

Need I say more.

There are so many more examples.

And? This makes tarrifs bad because? Am I supposed to be rooting for the success of American elites exploiting third world labor instead of paying Americans?

This is typical woman bullshit. Re-framing the entire argument so she can still pretend that she is correct and you are wrong when the reality is you've been right all along.

I'm going to stay uninformed and talk

Be my guest, just accept the fact you'll be debunked at every turn.

Colleges preventing students from protesting on campus is not the same as the government stopping protests in public.

They're arresting protestors off campus. They're arresting people who just made a twitter post in their homes. They arrested people who weren't even protestors themselves but university-designated mediators between the protestors and law enforcement like Mahmoud Khalil. Fucking kek, your country is so far gone already.

Notice how you couldn't refute a thing I said? I noticed.
China followed the rules to a tee. There were no rules saying China couldn't climb the value chain.
They also restructure debts from African countries that couldn't pay in time CONSTANTLY.
They go above and beyond the rules pretty much.

That doesn't mean I have to like China.

Reciprocal trade chang cry more
Honestly, I don’t give a fuck about China, big corpo, or their slap fight.
I have no problem buying shit from China but I’m also aware that outsourcing is a problem for our long term stability.

Be my guest, just accept the fact you'll be debunked at every turn.

This is gaslighting, he never talks about anything specific in the interview about BRI. From the place you linked he just talks about how it seems like a nice program, while not really knowing anything about it. you're not even mentioning what he even said other than "debunked" like a retard.

They're arresting protestors off campus. They're arresting people who just made a twitter post in their homes. They arrested people who weren't even protestors themselves but university-designated mediators between the protestors and law enforcement like Mahmoud Khalil. Fucking kek, your country is so far gone already.

There was a professor that got arrested, then was released right away with charges of trespassing which is a charge the colleges would use to get people off their property, like they do when protests get riotous. They aren't arresting anyone for tweets, they are going back and arresting people who locked down a college building and broke windows. Mahmoud Khalil is on a green card as a foreign national, a green card can be revoked, he's not a citizen.

I'm not against the US decouple.
I'm just pointing out every problem you blame on China is actually a problem you literally made yourself, and that 99 times out of 100 you're using China as a scapegoat.
And that also your country, specifically its foreign policy, is a destabilizing force and increasingly so to world peace and human development.
To say nothing of the war your own elites wage on its population through fracking, return to coal, etc.
The thing with long term stability is that you have to have short term stability first to worry about it.

Xian Kai Shek opened up the markets, deciding to conquer the industrial market. It is not just the greedy moneyman that takes advantage of the prostitute, the Babylon prostitute also grows in gold and rank as a thousand losers pay and simp for her, even just online.

Your talking about some fair trade shit when China doesn’t practice fair trade lmao
Rules for thee but not for me of course
I don’t really care about this shit though because I could care less about big corpo in ether country
So they can all get fucked
I already bought my cheep chines shit from china before this happened so I’m good

CHINA KNEELS

of course she is
GKN and Kill the Rich

Trying to have a legit conversation with a ccp puppet about anything is pointless
Both China and big corpo can suck a dick

This is gaslighting, he never talks about anything specific in the interview about BRI. From the place you linked he just talks about how it seems like a nice program, while not really knowing anything about it. you're not even mentioning what he even said other than "debunked" like a retard.

He literally said that Xi told John Kerry that he would be interested in collaborating with the US on the BRI back in 2018. It doesn't get more concrete in politics.

There was a professor that got arrested, then was released right away with charges of trespassing which is a charge the colleges would use to get people off their property, like they do when protests get riotous.

I googled "university professor arrested palestine" and in the top four links there were already three different names. You're free to corroborate it yourself.

They aren't arresting anyone for tweets, they are going back and arresting people who locked down a college building and broke windows.

A lot of them aren't being arrested ostensibly for pro-Palestinian tweets in the official record, but arrested by immigration officials and ICE.

pbs.org/newshour/politics/judge-releases-palestinian-student-at-columbia-who-was-arrested-at-citizenship-interview

And no, a lot of these people did not commit any acts of vandalism. In fact the overwhelming majority of pro-Palestinian protestors and those among them that have been detained or arrested have not committed any acts of vandalism.

It worked pretty well for both parties but it's time tone it down now. China doesn't need us anymore and we don't need them. We can help each other and cooperate but if the current relationship dynamic is maintained it's just too one sided.

And since when has the US practiced free trade? Did it practice free trade when it deposed the Queen of Hawaii and stole her land? Did it practice free trade in the banana republics?
Be honest, even in the arena of 'China doesn't practice free trade', the US is far worse and far more egregious. Let's open those can of worms.

Rules for thee but not for me of course

That's the mantra of the west.

What did I say that you can refute with facts?
Did the west not persecute, censor, and assassinate whistleblowers?

They're the same fucking thing.
Total chink death.

american ruling class

its always the man behind the curtain's fault

Boeing just did it in a public parking lot right before a deposition less than a year ago

In 2050 there will be 10 billion people on earth

LOL no. The global population will never go past 9 billion. Its already at or close to leveling out and once it starts dropping it will drop fast.

What is market discipline?

Yes we all know. Literally every MAGA voter will tell you the exact same thing. Dumb bitch. Literally no one is blaming China.

Eggs
When we couldn’t afford eggs that was the wake up call

Look I think the plan from the beginning was to get China economy viable and invested in the hopes that big western corpo could go in and have a huge emerging market and China would become more democratic and open
That didn’t happen and are instead militarizing and becoming nationalists
So they are cutting out now after decades of virtue signaling and giving China all kinds of goodies

People born in 2007 are adults now. A lot of people didn't see the rise of Walmart and the death of American manufacturing, to them it's just always been this way.

He literally said that Xi told John Kerry that he would be interested in collaborating with the US on the BRI back in 2018. It doesn't get more concrete in politics.

I literally pointed that out

He doesn't debunk anything there, I don't know if the timestamp was wrong, but he's just talking about Kerry not getting the BRI project to Obama and that it's for

I thought it would have been something other than that, because that was just general then he talks about living in harmony with nature and common prosperity, which is just trash and it has nothing to do with what china has been doing with the BRI now and how they exploit poor countries with it.

I googled "university professor arrested palestine" and in the top four links there were already three different names. You're free to corroborate it yourself.

They were arrested for trespassing, which is the general charge, because they protested on campus and then the universities got police to remove the protestors.

And no, a lot of these people did not commit any acts of vandalism. In fact the overwhelming majority of pro-Palestinian protestors and those among them that have been detained or arrested have not committed any acts of vandalism.

Again most of the protestors, and this is where professors get swept up, are arrested for trespassing on university property, that is still private property, these aren't protests in public. The guy in your link are non-citizens, but the Trump administration has been overstepping their bounds in regards to arresting people who aren't citizens but here illegally because of their Israel first agenda. Those people are being released by the judiciary, which is why we have checks and balances in place, something China does not have because you cannot contradict the party.

They already announced they would meet in Switzerland

No... It's just what you do when something isn't worth your time.
The US became a wealthy service economy. Why would you want to be doing repetitive physical labor for eight hours when you can instead do some paper work and interact with other people?
It had down sides of course. It fucked over a lot of less educated simple types living in flyover country. It also creates a situation where the country's now dependent on other countries to function.

They were arrested for trespassing, which is the general charge, because they protested on campus and then the universities got police to remove the protestors.

No they weren't. Why are you lying?

independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/professor-emory-university-arrest-protest-b2536574.html

An Emory University economics professor has been charged with battery after it appeared she was forcefully arrested during a pro-Palestinian protest on campus.

A CNN video caught the moment that a woman, believed to be Caroline Fohlin, was detained by Georgia police last Thursday. She was wrestled on the ground after trying to question law enforcement who were arresting protestors.

aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/20/georgetown-researcher-arrest-escalates-trump-speech-crackdown-scholars-say

Earlier this week, agents detained Badar Khan Suri, a postdoctoral fellow at Georgetown’s Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding, which Hashemi directs.

Nothing about trespassing.

theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/20/university-of-california-pro-palestinian-protest-trial

As riot police arrested 50 people during a May 2024 pro-Palestinian demonstration at the University of California, Irvine, Tiffany Willoughby-Herard was escorted away by riot police, her hands zip-tied behind her back.

A video of the tenured professor speaking passionately to reporters as she was arrested circulated widely on social media. “We cannot have a genocidal foreign policy in a democracy,” she says in the video. “These police officers out here today – that’s thousands of students’ scholarships.”

On Thursday, Willoughby-Herard and 10 others will appear in court facing three misdemeanor charges including “resisting arrest”, “resisting a peace officer with the threat of violence” and “failure to disperse”.

And there are countless more.
We both know 'resisting arrest' is a bogus charge.

Again most of the protestors, and this is where professors get swept up, are arrested for trespassing on university property, that is still private property,

The universities are overwhelmingly in support of these protests. Protests are what those areas are usually for. That's why Trump is defunding the universities that don't comply to their authoritarian demands of silencing all anti-Israel voices.
Trespassing is also a bogus charge. You are not arguing in good faith.

Based

No they weren't. Why are you lying?

She was getting arrested for trespassing then she hits the officer and then gets charged with battery. If you are saying she was only assaulting an officer, obviously she would get arrested. From your article:

The university also said that several dozen protestors, who trespassed onto campus and set up tents, were “not members of our community” and were “activists attempting to disrupt our university as our students finish classes and prepare for finals.”

The second guy Badar Khan Suri, is another Trump overreach.

Tiffany Willoughby-Herard was arrested for failing to disperse at the scene of a riot, another light charge where you are arrested and released immediately.

orangecountyda.org/press/ten-uci-protestors-charged-for-failing-to-disperse-after-police-deemed-campus-protest-an-unlawful-assembly/

You are mixing in a lot of protests on private property where the university wanted them gone, with something like Badar Khan Suri, where Trump is looking for non-citizens who support Hamas gone, because he is Israel first, he wouldn't do that for any other group but he is getting challenged on all of these through the courts.

You don't get arrested for trespassing on private property unless the own (in this case the university) contacts the police to remove people. Trespassing IS the charge, it doesn't matter if it's bogus, the universities, likely from pressure from jewish faculty, wanted them off campus. It's not a serious charge, and you are usually released immediately after you are removed and processed. Resisting arrest or "battery" as that professor in your link was charged with, generally come about as a result of them being arrested for Trespassing.

She was getting arrested for trespassing then she hits the officer and then gets charged with battery. If you are saying she was only assaulting an officer, obviously she would get arrested.

Read your own sentence and realize the sheer level of mental gymnastics you are performing on yourself.

You are mixing in a lot of protests on private property where the university wanted them gone, with something like Badar Khan Suri, where Trump is looking for non-citizens who support Hamas gone, because he is Israel first, he wouldn't do that for any other group but he is getting challenged on all of these through the courts.

I'm not mixing anything. The root cause for all three arrests are the exact same thing, no matter what the legal pretext given are. I know it, the world knows it, the students and very professors of those establishments know it. You can pretend not to know but you are only fooling yourself.

You don't get arrested for trespassing on private property unless the own (in this case the university) contacts the police to remove people. Trespassing IS the charge, it doesn't matter if it's bogus, the universities, likely from pressure from jewish faculty, wanted them off campus. It's not a serious charge, and you are usually released immediately after you are removed and processed. Resisting arrest or "battery" as that professor in your link was charged with, generally come about as a result of them being arrested for Trespassing.

You can play around with legal pretexts but realize that the ultimate precedent you are setting is that free speech is not allowed on university campuses LOL.
In which case I'm sorry to say China is literally more free than you already. They can hold serious debates in Tsinghua university critiquing the CCP.

Ignore 1pid, you know. Box posts for box heads.

All they care about is fucking niggers and shoving dildos up their ass now. What a useless party, every nigger they let over the border is just another one our politicians hope will cream pie their ass unprotected. lmao
There is no such thing as an actual male being democrat, they want to get raped by the foreign hordes. Their fetish is being chased down like in the movie Deliverance and having a Haitian squirt a pozzed HIV load up their puckering prolapsed anuses. Most of them are probably HIV contaminated like the gay mens choir. I wouldn't believe of a minute Polis, Newsom and Scott Weiner aren't positive on an AIDS test. There is a reason he loved PREP. Ahahaha.

trade protectionism is a leftist platform and always has been

Fucking lmao, trade protectionism is EVERYONE's stance aside from specific types of liberalism from the last 200 years.

I'm not mixing anything. The root cause for all three arrests are the exact same thing

Do you even know what happens when someone gets arrested? The people being handcuffed and released an hour later on trespassing charges when the university no longer wants them on the property are not the same as a non-citizen who is here legally that the Trump administration wants to deport because they support Hamas. You can say they are cracking down on pro-palestine/anti-israel protests, but the people getting arrested for trespassing are not the same as someone getting arrested by ICE because Trump wants to revoke their green card status.

They can hold serious debates in Tsinghua university critiquing the CCP.

People aren't getting arrested for debating or critiquing the US government, they are getting them on trespassing charges when the universities and the protestors gone or when protests turn riotous. These aren't debates, they are people assembling to protests. Colleges should be protecting free speech. Trump is pressuring universities to stop them, but that's still up tot he university what they do on their property, the non-citizens though are a different issue and not a good precedent and the only reason they are being arrested is because they are critical of Israel. But I've given critiques of the US, you however have only shilled for the CCP.

today i learned something

Some get released. Some don't. Some are still detained. Some university professors are fire. Some students are expelled. Watch this interview >youtube.com/watch?v=fgx2xH8iMjM
A lot of your excuses are debunked already. These are seasoned journalists telling you your opinion is bs.

both are true
they thought they could get their desired reforms out of supporting globalists, but all they left got was getting their ideas subverted and assimilated.

Some students are expelled.

There are very few students getting expelled. The only people that have been getting expelled are people who took over one of the buildings and barricaded it last year like occupying Kirkland Hall and vandalizing it, or occupying Hamilton hall, barricading it and vandalizing it. No one is getting expelled just for protesting, although it's clear they are being targeted for being pro-palestine. But every time someone does get expelled it's a national story.

A lot of your excuses are debunked already. These are seasoned journalists telling you your opinion is bs.

None of my explanations have been debunked, them getting arrested for trespassing is what happened in most of these cases you are talking about. You are talking about two different things, one is the universities cracking down on pro-Palestine protests and another is the Trump administration arresting non-citizens they think are foreign agitators. They are two separate things, even though they both stem from trying to stop people from criticizing Israel. Also leftist journalists always say there is a constitutional crisis when a non democrat is in office, they weren't saying this when students were getting arrested under Biden, and just like the executive branch oversteps their authority, the judiciary will do that as well with activist judges.

Yeah they're called Jews

No

Shit

digital nobility

Or maybe the people that own and have always owners the world see a benefit to modernizing China.

There are very few students getting expelled.

1. You don't know that because there is no centralized resource tallying how many have been expelled so far.
2. Over 3,100 students and faculty were arrested on over 60 campuses alone in 2024.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_2024_pro-Palestinian_protests_on_university_campuses#Administrative_response

The number is significant enough that scholarships have been offered by foreign universities to expelled students.
You are still living under a rock.

None of my explanations have been debunked, them getting arrested for trespassing

Trespassing is a bogus charge. And also I am talking about one thing only. The curtailing of rights, be it speech or otherwise in the US. You are the one splitting hairs for no reason. This began when you claimed the US can talk openly about problems and have rights of protest as things that US have over China which have now been utterly disproven when talking about openly about Israeli control over the US or defending other people's right to free speech, or questioning the brutality of the police gets you arrested, fired, expelled, deported, blacklisted in the US.

Offshoring domestic manufacturing and other industries wasn't an insidious Chinese conspiracy, it was the rich boomers trying to get richer.

It was both, actually? Like, motherfucker China very obviously is not an innocent, good-faith actor here...

But also, ok cool. You've finally acknowledged the thing we've been saying for like 30 years now. A leftist has come around to the point. But much like every time they are begrudgingly and after a ton of dismissal and kicking the can, forced to concede or agree to a conservative point, the question is: So what do you suggest we do about it? What exactly is your contention here?

Also, it's called parallel construction where maybe they want you out for pro-Palestinian protests so they crack down on you as a non-citizen agitator.
You are willfully blind or naive if you think these two things are separate issues or unrelated.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activist_deportations_in_the_second_Trump_presidency

I hate chinks. I hate kikes. I hate trannies. I hate jannies.

That's absolutely false china's ruling family owned a billion slaves, and couldn't feed them.
Every american child was told repeatedly about the starving children in china. The british had made billions selling opium to the chinese they blockaded china's ports and forced china to only export through hong kong. the british only paid pennies to the chinese for things made in china, the british sold those things in the west for huge profits and britain got fat.
americans could see that it wasn't fair what the british were doing to china. US President Nixon made trade agreements that let China export their own stuff without the british in hong kong this help china get over the opium problem, they were no longer slaves to the british, and when the british lease of hong kong expired china was not a weak little bitch, china told the british fuck off. they did desperately renew the lease to the british overlords, china stood up and took back control of hong kong. but the greedy british did not give up trying to enslave china.
Chinese leader warned the chinese people that the "british empire" was evil, greedy and wanted to rule the world. The communists put that chinese leader in prison. communists are in bed with the british The queen had a Palace in china
right now a hundred million chinese are in prison. china needs to tell prince charles to fuck off. free the prisoners and make peace.

Only the US could basically exploit an entire population and then get mad at them for being slaves. Many such cases.

2. Over 3,100 students and faculty were arrested on over 60 campuses alone in 2024.

Again, these are for either trespassing generally or rioting, generally they are released immediately. These are also not the same as

The number is significant enough that scholarships have been offered by foreign universities to expelled students.

One foreign university in Iran said that in 2024, obviously as a publicity stunt, there are not that many people being expelled.

Trespassing is a bogus charge. And also I am talking about one thing only. The curtailing of rights, be it speech or otherwise in the US. You are the one splitting hairs for no reason.

Trespassing, on private property is a charge, they have the right to protest on public property, but universities are still technically private property. The trespassing charges are usually to just stop the protests and it's the university making those decisions, not the government. Trespassing are charges brought by the universities to stop the protests, Trump arresting non-citizens that are suspected of being foreign actors is another. This isn't splitting hairs, they are different charges. All of this is very public, unlike something like the uyghur genocide by the CCP, but people and the other branches of government are pushing back against the overreach.

It's not like these people are getting arrested for no reason

on no 32 people arrested at a riot at Washington university! it's a constitutional crisis!

x.com/choeshow/status/1919624579133157460

trespassing or rioting charges are not the same as the individual attacks from the government on non-citizens.

You are willfully blind or naive if you think these two things are separate issues or unrelated.

Separate yes, not generally unrelated. One is the university getting the local police involved, the other is the Trump administration going after non-citizens. Two things are happening, you can say towards the same goal, but not all these protests are peaceful and the university still has the right to remove people from their campus if they see them as disruptive.

Mercantilism is a Monarchist policy.

I'm just pointing out every problem you blame on China is actually a problem you literally made yourself

You didn't disprove that China's abusing tariffs.

All you did is bring up the Central Bank issue, which has been a growing problem for a while and grown out of proportion lately.

That has nothing to do with China using their population as cheap slave labor to undercut USA while also applying tariffs on USA.