Putin will go down in history as a giant retard for this

If you are a man, please, submit to my desires. It's gon be sublime.

It's polite, plus, when the more serious negotiations start, it's important to have a well-reasoned and established position coming into them. And since even these negotiations managed to achieve a prisoners' exchange, you can't even say they were entirely useless.

Putin will come to regret this. Just look at what happened when Obama humiliated Trump at that White House Correspondents Dinner

Miss me yet?

I'm not fucking pro russia but obviously they aren't going to be in a great mood dealing the country that is largely responsible for getting hundreds of thousands of their soldiers killed and wounded and they don't give two shits about trump's retarded "deals".

It's polite,

Constantly lying to someone is not polite.
The prisoners exchange was a token to just make it not completely a waste of time, they've had those before though many times.
Serious negotiations are a long way away now. I predict we'll be here a year from now talking about the same thing.

Let me remind you that the United States is not officially a party to the conflict and therefore all US proposals have no legal force.
Let me remind you that Trump bought Ukraine through a resource deal and is now protecting his masters investments.
The deeper Russia gets into Ukraine, the less resources the United States will be able to drain.

Zelensky has all the komp on the pedophiles in DC. The jew can order his kiddy-diddler puppets to bark all they want, lets see them start conscripting American bodies to fight for the pedo kike regime and see how that plays out lmao Free Palestine

they will soon be dependent on his mercy. which will be a much worse situation.

What lying? Both sides simply entered the negotiations with intent on reaching the peace they want, rather than any peace at all. Reality, and specifically this summer's campaign, will clarify the negotiating positions.

The EU made a bazillion free trade agreements with Russia, even going as far as shutting down its own energy production in exchange for Russian gas, in an effort to stop Russia's warmongering and they rejected it.

Yes, Putin is every retarded. All he cares about is sending young men to die in useless war. It's the only thing that gets him hard anymore.

Yeah I think you're right. Trump offered putin an unironically amazing deal and he declined. Maybe he thought he could out for more idk. I have a feeling hes gonna reget not taking the deal. Theres nothing left for russia to win in ukraine it doesn't already have.

The lie is

we want peace negotiations

Negotiations require both sides to come to some kind of agreement.
If you enter a negotiation and your intention before showing up is to say 'no' to everything then you're not really negotiating, it's acting in bad faith.

For example

I want peace! Just hand over Alaska back to Russia and the war will end!

You don't want to? You're clearly warmongers prolonging the suffering. Sad.

Trump needs to watch ALL the vigilante intelligence videos about the perestroika deception in order to understand what’s going on. Russia is STILL in charge of international communism to this day.

Good.
You will learn which politicians accepted Rothschild (British) money and why they have interests in Ukraine. They are all Burisma (NATO) shills.

I read your post and it seems like you forgot to say what the terms of Trump's deal actually are

but if trump is a russian asset why would he care?

Negotiations need not to end in some actual agreement to be valid, and as long as the demands are not spurious, entering the negotiations with intent to achieve them is not acting in bad faith. In a few days, the government will present a memorandum where the reasons for the war and the steps needed to be taken to achieve a lasting peace will be laid out, you can read it then.

Obviously, immediate ceasefire that will last only long enough for Ukraine to rearm itself and rebuilt its army is not in the cards.

Us provokes the war, destabilising Europe politically and economically in the process.
Refuses to take any accountability.
Why don't they take my offer?
Yea fuck off

There was never a formal negotiation for it but he said multiple times, 'No NATO membership for Ukraine, Russia keeps Crimea, no NATO troops in the country as peacekeepers' and the discussion was looking to be about which of the oblasts will be ceded or not.
All of that is an extremely pro Russian deal from the US standpoint, recognizing Crimea would be going against years of US foreign policy in itself. Putin could have probably gotten at least 3 of them.

Keep in mind right now Russia doesn't have full control of all of them either so it'd be a case of the USA directly helping Russia carve up land from Ukraine in some areas. Unthinkable but that's what it was looking like for a moment.
Not only would that have been a direct gain for Russia, it would have severely weakened the US in foreign policy terms, something that would benefit Russia too.

The only caveat would have been some kind of agreement for Russia not to start another war with the rest of Ukraine. But Putin wants the entire cake.

what is diplomacy?

The only 'deal' orange biden ever could have made: cut all aid to Kiev and make sure they lose ASAP, then hope Putler plays nice. That is it, there is no leverage unless you want to wage the war yourself

See this is where russians are fucking up. They think they can have some cat and mouse negotiations like their endless maneuvering with xi just to get xi to offer some mild noncommittal remarks that could be interpreted as favoring russia. It costs the US nothing to fund the war in ukraine and all of the institutional and most of the international pressure that matters to the US favors more war. Trumps had some some political capital he was able to spend push back against all these pro war interests to seek peace. Russia gave him nothing. Thats where putin fucked up. Should have given him some gesture to work with. Now the anti war side is discredited and trump only loses political capital that he needs to do 100 other things by spending more time opposing the pro war lobby. So he will stand back as he says and what that means is that the west will keep arming ukraine, the US will keep giving ukraine intel, and more and harsher sanction on russia. Why? Because thats the only political play he has now. With western elected leaders you have to act fast of you want to get something meaningful done.

retarded orange man baby is mad

Why would anyone take his offers seriously?

as long as the demands are not spurious

Yes, asking for the entire country to be given to you with a cherry on top of spurious.
The US isn't going to do that, and it doesn't really have the ability to just 'give' Ukraine to Russia anyway like that.
What Trump did was offer the best he can within the framework, much better than any other POTUS would do.

So far the original objectives for 'peace' have not changed according to Putin himself
x.com/PutinDirect/status/1924573960659992684

x.com/PutinDirect/status/1925759464428175779

Lavrov said a few days ago what he wants, the current Ukrainian regime must be removed.
x.com/PutinDirect/status/1927160912927982012

In other words the country needs to be regime changed to a pro Russian puppet.

Lol Trump is constantly getting hounded by Jews and neocons to bomb Iran and Russia and he doesn't want to do it because he knows America can't fight for shit. I don't envy his position, but that's what he signed up for when he swore fealty to Jewry.

didn't zelensky just try to kill putin with a drone swarm in kursk, or was that fake news?

Cuz it's funny. Also it drags time out so they can keep making gains while big bad America pleads and weeps for a face-saving deal

zelensky turned down the offer that russia put forwards

and the deal is going to keep on getting worse as time goes on

It's a opportunity to lay down and explain russian goals, demands and red lines in detail, so the enemy side aka amerimutts have the better understanding of things which Russa consider crucial for itself.

costs the US nothing to fund the war

a resource deal the failure of which will cost Trump his chair
so ending the war in Ukraine is EVERYTHING for the United States.

This is a lot of bullshit cope just to say Zion Don has to power or diplomatic weight. You can keep saying Putin "fucked up big time" all you want. Do something about it. Oh that's right, the big orange boomer will continue to type threats in all caps on TruthSocial. Go ahead and 'reTruth' that, pussy.

So he will stand back as he says and what that means is that the west will keep arming ukraine, the US will keep giving ukraine intel, and more and harsher sanction on russia.

Frankly, no one expected anything else, so nothing changes.
No one is asking US to give the entire country, no is asking them to do anything, hell, no one is even asking Ukraine to surrender unconditionally or change its government. Limitations in military strength, surrender of territory they mostly don't own and forbidding anti-Russian rhetoric does not make them a puppet.

Didn't MIGA say just a couple of weeks ago that Russia and America are natural allies that will rule the world together ?
What happened with that
Non retards knew that America fucked up with Russia to the point Russia will never trust them again with anything

Let me remind you that Ukraine doesn't really have much resources.

He'll do that eventually and declare the victory.
Trump is dumber than Biden but he has a huge cult following so you might get tricked

More like Trump will, for even entertaining the possibility of puccia being honorable or trustworthy.

I think Trump's ace is he will invade Greenland then invade Siberia from the north.

The puppet in front is known to hide the real forces and intents. As always, new is that it's an disgusting 5 layered make-up bankrupt with a loud mouth from wich only "muuhh gulf of america and 150% chink tax" BS quilts. Every leader will prefer to sit on the same table with an stinky Central African dictator than that geriatric caricature of the joker with less colouring.

miga changes their opinions like the npc chip meme. they're a very special flavor of npc.

Good answer

Not anymore you mean. Before the war Ukraine was the large steel industry exporter. But the right type of coal for plants is in war zone now. Also Ukraine is still the largest potential food producer in Europe(except Russia) by suitable land.

The cope is pretending russia has something more to gain by dying by the thousands for advances measured in inches. Trump gave their chance at a real win and they blew it. You can speculate as to why but thats the reality.

no one expected anything else

And you were wrong. I get why and all but it was a genuine missed opportunity for russia.

American-Jewish analytical agencies do not think so.
I've seen their reports.
This is a lot of different resources and a lot of money, half of which will be stolen from the budget of Ukraine under the pretext of going to the fund.

Why is Russia negotiating with the US? Russia is at war with Ukraine: that's who they need to settle with (or continue to fight it out).

The US can either continue to support Ukraine or not. That a bilateral issue between them.

Ukraine has the best arable soil in the world; massive reserves of iron, coal and lithium; oil & gas deposits; nuclear infra (second only to France in Europia); access to warm waters (and maritime assets). They got a whole bunch of shit, actually.

the fuck do you even know about (((real wins)))? statecraft is very different from being a businessman. trump is an absolute retard for even doing what he did so far. it shows that he cannot think like a statesman. this is also why he constantly fucks up economic decisions and foreign policy. it's hilarious to watch though.

It has good soil and thats it. The claims that is has vast amazing unheard of levels of unobtainium are just cope. If they had any of that the soviets would have strip mined it all decades ago. You see those news reports every now and then where some shithole country in africa finds some massive oil reserves of something and then it never talked about again? Thats because those resources are so deep in the earth as to be imposible to access or can only be accessed as a massive cost far in excess of any profitable use. Thats the category where most of the suddenly discovered resources of ukraine fall into.

Russia is at war with Ukraine: that's who they need to settle with

nah it's a proxy war between russia and usa, nobody cares about ukraine or europe for that matter

America rules the world while Germany has never been geostrategically intelligent. The US knows far more about realpolitik than EU puppet states ever will. Thats why putin rightfully ignores you and talks to Trump when he wishes to talk at all.

Trump betrayed Europe. Put heavy tariffs on old allies and sided with Putin in the Ukraine war. The relationship with Europe has been permanently damaged and Trump got NOTHING for it. The Art of the Deal baby.

trump doesn't know shit my boy. and it shows at every decision he makes. you probably don't even know what realpolitik is and obviously forgot where modern diplomacy comes from. ever heard of westphalia?

Nothing you're saying means anything. They're still taking and holding territory, despite what you say. You can say "they blew it," but that means nothing. Blew what? What is Trump going to do - drop more airplanes in the ocean? Thump his flabby chest? Keep yapping and promising vague consequences, I'm sure Russia will do what you want soon.

Order Ukraine to withdraw from all 4 oblasts. Peace achieved.

le bad old USA forced us to launch an invasion myth

Putin got Putins soldiers killed. Stop acting like the US is some omnipotent boogeyman. Slavic retards are perfectly capable of starting unwinnable wars on their own. Georgia, Chechnya, Syria, Chechnya again.

Give all your land to Isreal. Peace achieved.

Trump knows more than any leader in germany does but thats beside the point. Hes got others around him who know even more. Germs seething the loudest because the US doesn't want to maintain globohomo post ww2 liberal world order is hilarious really.
Their current advances are their least impressive of the war to date. They arent taking anything. Its been almost 2 years since their offensives actually threatened to make sizable gains. Yes they were offered everything they wanted as OP has already pointed out and they threw it away for more war in which they lose money and lives but in which they make no further gains. With Trump they could have changed the US policy they say has been threatening them for decades. They threw that away and for what? Taking stinky in 5 years maybe? Lots of russian shills on jewtube call themselves rational realists but if they arent telling you putin fucked up on this one then they are neither.

Trump could stop acting like a bitch and use the goddamn military for what it was made for. How about boots on the ground pushing the Soviet horde back to it's own borders? We have nukes of our own so it's not like the Russians could do more than whine about it.

Trump angry at Putin and Netanyahu

Trump mad

Big mad

Very very mad!

he's not going to do shit, all those exclamations of disappointment or anger are just stalling

lol pretty sure he did lmao,

the absolute most generous offer

Chutzpah. It's an absolutely shit deal, which he already showed he can't even fulfill on his part. He basically just wants Russia to stop military action for his own PR without any real longterm solution to the conflict. Russia absolutely has no reason to accept this.

Soviets didnt know everything. Else they woulda strip mined Kazakhstan as well. They missed a few things.

Americans conveniently ignore two things: Russians have time, and Ukraine and their allies have no real means to turn this around.
Trump’s offer is basically hinging on the idea Putin is hurting bad, which is just not real no matter what his deep swamp “advisors” tell him.

You can’t really believe he can take all of Ukraine, right? They haven’t done it for 3+ years. What can they do short of nuking Kyiv?

Ukraine is nothingburger

glowbot detected

Let me remind you that Trump wanted this deal so badly that he even swallowed an insult from Zelensky during the first attempt to conclude a deal when Zelensky arrived at the White House looking like a bum.

Let’s ignore the fact US Army is woefully unprepared to engage in this conflict and nukes - the moment US deploys troops in Ukraine is the moment Chinese invade Taiwan and Iranians wreak havoc in Middle East, as they know there’s no real threat of America intervening in any relevant capacity.

Incorrect. Putin has showcased he cares more about Putin than the future of Russia. Typical Boomer behavior signaling to the Russians that another oligarch might be a better choice.

Trump is a Russian asset but he’s also unmanageable and impulsive.

Then why is Russia dragging out this charade of 'peace negotiations' with the US?

Probably still delusional that Trump can be negotiated with. Although not delusional enough this time to accept any temporary cease fires or do gestures of good will. But given how situation develops, the negotiations will most likely end soon.

Make no mistake
Westerners are already stripping the country on the Caspian Sea.
Kazakh girls in Aktau are very popular among expats

You live in a fantasy world. The US military would mollywhop those slav niggers.

Are you going to cry over Russia winning the war?

Trump has already demonsrated multiple times he doesn’t know what’s going on in Ukraine, but the fact he has shown any sort of interest in ending the conflict puts him far ahead of any other politician right now. Remember, the “reasonable” peace these people want is for Ukraine to get their 1991 borders despite not having any control over crimea for a decade, Russia to pay reparations and Ukraine doesn’t have to concede a single thing. They say this stupid shit knowing full well Russia will never agree to it.

I feel like a broke record but the peace agreement Russia and Ukraine reached in April 2022 would have seen Ukraine lose no territory. They would get rid of azov, end the war against Donbas, and implement the federalization reforms they promised on multiple occasion as to do. LDNR would have greater autonomy and a path to full reintegration should Ukraine follow through, and Russia would also sign a leasing agreement on crimea. Absolute sweetheart deal consider Russia doesn’t owe a fucking thing to Ukraine, and the Ukrainians refused because…I don’t know I guess they’re just retarded. Now Ukraine is guaranteed to lose territory, and soon even more territory, and they get the added benefit of having a huge chunk of their population either liquidated or in exile and most of their infrastructure demolished. These people have this mentality where 100 dead ukrops is acceptable as long as a single katsap dies, it’s a social sickness.

This. The declared goal of amerimutts is to make a "deal" where no one wins(except amerimutts ofc). Why would Russia accept this, when Russia is indeed has the capabilities to outlast Ukraine in this ongoing war of attrition? Zero incentive to concede.

So it's natural what amerimutts turn to threats. Such potential personal investment of Trump, if realized, would in turn make his whole motto "this is not our war" very dubious, making him no different from Biden chads.

Soviets didnt know everything.

They knew how to strip mine. They wouldn't have been raping the arctic circle and the wilds of siberia if vast resources were right there on the plains of ukraine for easy taking.
I seem to recall trump humiliated zalensy at that time. Another gift to putin that putin didn't capitalize on. Honestly now that I think about it russia is really shit at the diplomatic game. Too many decades since they were a global power I guess. They've lost their touch.

Kazakhstan is like Ukraine or Russia pro max in terms of capital drain. TNC rob Kazakhstan's resource base daily on africa-tier level.

Why would Russia accept this

Because we can outlast you.

America couldn't even beat Vietnam LMAO.

He won't do shit, Trump Always Cucks Out

Did you ask hohols if they can to be your cannon fodder in such enterprise? Or mutts are willing to put their tranny boots on the ground?

Its always funny when literal puppet states claim the global hegemon lost something.

He will change his mind again and be pro-Russian next week.

You are currently getting cucked by Houthis.

and Putin still told him to fuck off.

Because Putin is winning. The US lost the proxy war and Trump wanted an out. Fuck Russia btw.

Oh they seem game. Nobody actually expected them to fight this hard. Theres no more bitter enemy to slavs than other slavs. Lesson learned.

Yeah good luck invading the biggest country in the world. It will be guerrilla nightmare.

They houthis surrendered weeks ago after trump bombed them a few times.

Russians would be dumb and naive to trust any *nglokike and their "deals".

You can bet this "deal" is somehow fixed to fuck em over. You just gotta find out how.

More like Trump gave up. Houthis are still the standing proud.

Let me remind you that the United States is not officially a party

officially

It's a proxy war, dumb nuts. By this point this is a public secret. "Officially" means jack shit.

What are you coping about now? Russia? Its gonna destroy itself at this rate. 1991 2.0

Shart of The Deal. He won't and can't do shit making the humiliation even worse. I thought he was good at this sort of thing, I thought he had all the cards.

We'd rather not bailout the Eurozone's need to deficit spend

To the extent the EUssr is completely CONVERGED by long march reds, Moscow & Beijing will act to preserve it-- continuing the war and obliging the US to pick up its ungrateful nuclear aegis NATO 'allies' that can't be fucked to spend 2% GDP any more than pandas fuck is the play.

Nope they literally surrendered and ceased their attacks on US and eurotrash ships.

Some things are worth more than money. I know kikes can not understand this.

the failure of which will cost Trump his chair

he is a second term president, there is nothing he can do to have more or less time as president

Because it's very lucrative to subvert you and make Ukraine's military supply run thin, you Westoid cuck idiots. Asian mental supremacy really shows here.

Don't smartass
It's clear to everyone.
but in terms of jurisdiction, it's still "face to face."
so the United States has the maximum status of a guarantor of negotiations, and Donald Trump can go fuck himself on truth social with statements like "I can do Russia a bobo."

This is the very "officially" one that allowed the "annexation" of Crimea and the Donbass regions.
The UN is not able to argue with this.

Lucrative for whom? The US MIC? Some jew somewhere?

You caved mutt, the whole world knows it, you got humiliated by sandle wearing camel jockeys....again

Pathetic motherfuckers. LMFAO

You barely sent anything to Ukraine it's max 150 billion worth of supply, while Russia is slowly getting more and more land. Also I would like to remind you that manpower losses are irrelevant, Russia gained 3 million people with the annexation.

Trump has been saying since before his re-election that he wants out of this war, it was basically his election platform to give russia whatever it wanted.

As usual Trumps big mouth causing him problems.

You don't tell the other side before you even get to the negotiating table that you want to quit. All Russia has to do is call his bluff since they know he will fold and not escalate

why should russia accept proposals? they have their proposals
also if anyone wanted to end the war they would have accepted them but none budges in no russia nor ukraine
none wants peace

Gets what it wants

You lost oh great world empire

Sure memeflag

You barely sent anything

I know. I costs the US nothing to wreck russia. By the way all those empty destroyed cities you see in ukraine are the lands russia is fighting to annex. The refugees come from the warzone. Not the far away territories untouched by war. Russia isnt getting much of anything except empty land for their jewish masters if the khazaria theories come true.

Gets what it wants

And what is it exactly you "got"? wishy washy disinforming mutt kike.
Your "country" is one giant humiliation ritual. XD

We got free unobstructed shipping access. Are you retarded?

in hindsight you should thank the chinese for immediately destroy any semblance of "muh greater communist unity" to every vietnamese psyche by retarding around using laos and then do it themselves

Reminder that the purpose of shilled topics like these is that Trump's approval is over 50% and a majority of Americans believe the country is going in the right direction, the first time in 20 years.

LoL LMFAO!!

The mutt is a despot, true to his jewish roots.

There are at least 1 trillion worth of oil and 1 trillion worth of gas under just Crimea ready to be scooped up and sold on the internation market. Nobody cares about Eastern-Ukrainian commiebloc industry towns.
Khazaria theories are brainrot for the normiecattle.

it should be cambodia i think? dunno but commie state attacking commie state really destroy the illusion of brotherhood and unity for vietnamese

The only one who go down in history as a giant retard (and also an humillated cuck) is Drumpf.

A commie's worste enemy is another commie. Soviet commies realized this that's why the USSR collapsed.

Sure there are anon. Read the thread for why those claims are dubious.

They knew how to strip mine.

That they did. What I meant was they missed a few giant deposits or never had time to discover them. Actually they did discover a giant oil filed in Kazakhstan right before the Union dissolved so they missed out on that one.

Trump won't do shit.

shilled topics

Anon, these are significant geopolitical developments

Continue to suck off Russians doles you little cuck

extremist retards will always sliding into absolutism

The thread is full of schizophrenic uneducated lowclass cretins as usual.

I dunno I feel like both Trump and Puting are gonna down for being retards on this. Trump effectively gave appeasement to Putin at every turn while Putin just comes off as a violent mongrel.

You won't do shit, and even if you do. You are going to be psyop'd into self hate just like after Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam etc. etc.

it also seems that both are began to tired of each other shits

The real purpose of the Russia-Ukraine war is to be a depop meatgrinder operation for the Heavenly Jerusalem Project. So, the war must be dragged out as long as possible until it is ready to be turned into the next Israel.

but muh infinite riches no one ever found until now.

This thread is full of ziggers coping with yet another monkey man fuckup. We all know how this will go down. Europe will give ukraine more missiles to rain down upon russia. Russia will burn, putin will threaten nukes and no one will care, trump will tariff any country that trades with russia 500 percent and no jew judge is gonna try and stop that, and then Anon Babble will be full of shitskins and fsb shills seething about the perfidy of the orange man. Its all so tiresome and predictable.

Russia won’t threaten nukes it’ll just start nuking and nobody will do shit about it

Honestly it's all Russia's fault, they should have ruthlessly hit Soros, Rothschilds, Rockafellers, etc etc while openly gloating about it internationaly. Some may call it terrorism, I call it laying down the law and turning uppity assholes that fuck with your backyard into examples for other uppity assholes.

Kyiv

ukranny is an unlimited resource

trump will tariff any country that trades with russia 500 percent

I want to see this
We'd get soviet union 2.0 instead of the current cuckssia that still buys American garbage through third countries
Russia-Belarus-DPRK-Iran union when

Anon Babble doesn't win wars. Jews rape kids. Muslims rape kids. Negroes can't build houses. Latinos can't read. Chinese eat dogs.

muh infinite riches

Soviets didnt have the extraction technology British and Americans have. We only mined the easily accessible surface regions, but know China has the tech stolen from the white devil.

They are winning the war of attrition though. Every month that goes by Russia's position gets stronger and Ukraine gets weaker. Eventually they would be able to take the whole country unless something changes.
What would need to change is either regime change in Russia (unlikely) or a massive increase in support from either the US or EU, probably in the form of boots on the ground. Without this Ukraine will just slowly cede more and more territory until they finally agree to Russian demands and the war ends. Could take years but that seems to be the only way it's gonna play out.

Because if Trumpers decide to support Ukraine after all that is just very bad for Russia. I've been pro-Russia the entire time, still probably am, but I've got to say it would be pretty funny to blow Russia the fuck out.

Isn't the entire world pro-hoholistan? If we bombed the absolute shit out of Moscow, literally nothing would happen.

Russia doesnt want a ceasfire because it is winning. But rejecting it would make them look bad so they are stalling, its not complicated.

A million dead to sell it all to china. Kinda sad really.

Isn't the entire world pro-hoholistan?

yes, the entire International Community o algo is in support of the ukraine

TACO

Seething shitskin

Lmao. Cry some more when you shit the streets jeet.

So if America absolutely skullfucked Moscow with bombs for a month straight literally nothing would happen, thanks for confirming.

You want a tough approach? Invade them.

Denmark

I've been there, what a shithole. Miserable country with miserable weather. Less immigrants than Germany though so at least you've got that going for you.

if America absolutely skullfucked Moscow

lol
try beating the houthis first before you start talking big

How about boots on the ground

And there it is, mask off.

Their current advances are their least impressive of the war to date.

Subjective bullshit - who cares how 'impressive' it is?

They arent taking anything.

They're constantly taking town after town. Again, the word 'sizable' is subjective bullshit.

They threw that away and for what?

They threw nothing away. Russia tried to negotiate terms in Instanbul and the UK, as usual, gave promises of military backing and demanded that Ukraine not negotiate. The war and the continuation of it is entirely the fault of the (((West.)))

Lots of russian shills on jewtube call themselves rational realists but if they arent telling you putin fucked up on this one then they are neither.

Because he didn't fuck up anything. Russia is getting the territory they were going to negotiate for anyways and you have ABSOLUTELY ZERO ability to stop them at all. You're just stomping your feet and saying, "wow you sure messed up when you crossed me, Putin!" With no strength to back it. A little blue and white paper dog that yaps and shits itself. That's you. That's the US empire.

The problem with the Minsk agreement is that both sides defined autonomy for the Donbas differently. There was no clear plan in the treaty. The agreement was doomed since Putin saw it as the Donbas regions getting maximum autonomy with veto powers over Ukraine foreign policy. Meanwhile Ukraine saw it as simply giving the regions similar autonomy as what Crimea had before the 2014 invasion. Minsk was shit.

All was CIA doing.

They're constantly taking town after town.

No they arent. They're still fighting for the very next town down the road from bakhmut 2 years later. Dont claim massive gains while claiming you dont carte that their gains are literally ten times slower than a snails pace right now.

They threw nothing away.

They threw everything away as alreadyt explained. Now the get the same treatment they have gotten for years and complain is killing them. That could have changed with orange man but they threw that opportunity away.

Because he didn't fuck up anything.

He's fuckup virtually everything about this war. Its been a nonstop miscalculations, bad decisions, and poor judgement.

Eventually they would be able to take the whole country unless something ...

That's the problem. Nobody wants Ucros in his country, neither Russia nur EU. It was always some kind of "association".It's like Turkey, they negotiate for more than 30 years of EU membership. Will never come, because of reasons. Germany literally pays that they stay at home.

It should really be called "Jew writes misleading headline".

Do they nowadays not working out details?

No they arent. T

They're making gains and you can't do anything about it. Your subjective appraisal of the quality of these gains is irrelevant.

They threw everything away as alreadyt explained. Now the get the same treatment they have gotten for years and complain is killing them. That could have changed with orange man but they threw that opportunity away.

Meaningless bullshit.

He's fuckup virtually everything about this war. Its been a nonstop miscalculations, bad decisions, and poor judgement.

And yet he's making gains and permanently holding territory, ergo your subjective opinion about how "well" they're winning is irrelevant.

It's not. Those people are worthless even to their own families

You're coping anon. Getting the US to stop fucking with them is far more important to russia than the dozens of yards of clay it takes a month at absurd costs. Thats the whole point of the war anon. At the start russia didn't even want any land at all because the land isn't the issue. Russia isn't hurting for land.

Getting the US to stop fucking with them is far more important to russia than the dozens of yards of clay it takes a month at absurd costs.

Apparently not because Russia doesn't give a fuck about Zion Don's deals and is proceeding with their military plans regardless.

Putin is a retard for starting the war
Putin is an even bigger retard for denying the backbending of Trump

this war would've never happened had i been president

putin literally pushing missile buttons on his desk to Ukraine while humoring trump over the phone

Russia is a fake, jew-oped, 3rd world, shithole country. It's no different than the garbage eastern eurotrash countries bordering it. Let's get real. Slavs are the nigbulls of the human race. Violent and alcoholic af. After the fall of the eastern block, Russia still looks like a cold, soulless, urbex-abandoned ghost town everywhere you look

How about they just say 'no we don't give a fuck' instead of this stupid game.

Trump turns on the wood chipper Russia is stuck in

Russia starting fake countries inside other countries is something they regularly, they tried that here 80 years ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Democratic_Republic

Germany's industrial might is ramping up again and will be able to near single handedly keep Ukraine fighting in a few years.

because they know we are still giving money to jews to send weapons to ukraine

Why is pol all zogbot propaganda?

Who give a fuck about this shit

Germany's industrial might

powered by Russian Gas

Or putin is just a retard who fucked up. Doesn't matter to me. Its ziggers like you that are dying in vast numbers of reason or strategic purpose.

They aren't going to accept any deal from the United States when they know we are a schizophrenic nation that changes their mind on everything every 4 years. Trump is worse because he changes his mind every 4 hours.

Powered by EU nuclear power

Doesn't matter to me.

22 posts say otherwise.

Yes I suffer when russians die for nothing. You've become hysterical anon. I know you want to believe monkey man can do no wrong and the west is doomed but its russians thats are dying in ukraine. Not americans, not nato. They are the ones suffering in this war while I and everyone else's thinks the are retards and the jews that started this war are celebrating at how successful their plans were. Putin had a chance to end the war and get what he wanted. More even. He threw it away for reasons and now gets nothing except more forever war.