Why do Americans believe in this fanfic?
The book of Mormon
all the moon men want things their way, but we make sure they see the sun.
God I love getting slung in age of empires 4v4.
Holy Spirit, especially from churchofjesuschrist.org
The Book is from Ethiopia, Beta Israel, not ancient USA
Has anyone ever read this book? There's a part in it that says homosexuality is banned unless it's with your brother. How the fuck is that somehow better? Isn't this supposed to be a "conservative" religion?
We don't. Mormonism is a fringe religion, not common at all except in Utah since so many Mormons move there and setup their own communities.
Across the United States white birth rates are down. Men are participating less and less in the labor force. The number of sexual partners of average adults are rising. Unwed women are reaching their 30s and 40s in record numbers. Religion is being abandoned and atheist degeneracy has grasped modern culture and societal trends.
All except the Mormons. Whether you find what they believe to be insane or not, the proof is in the pudding. They are the last true bastion of white Christians in the world.
would Anon Babble pay 10 percent of their salaries every month for the mormussy?
Religion is a way to God. It doesn't matter what Religion, all rivers lead to the sea.
You should convert
The Book is verifiable - here is reformed egyptian
en.wikipedia.org
Source?
Joseph Smith was a Freemason. Mormonism is Satanic Christianity. They even have the same fake rivalry with the latter day saints, just like jesuits and freemasons.
Satanist larping as a christian
Source?
The Book of Mormon, the one in the pic. It's their version of the Quran
You are mistaken - "Mormonism" is the truth that will make you free, not the lies of man that will bind you falsely
I did, about four years ago.
Actually their version of the Koran is the Doctrine and Covenants (collected revelations of the American prophet)
And nowhere in the gold plates does it endorse any abomination like that - you believe evil reports falsely
I used to think the tithe was theft. then I realized that it used to gaurantee you had a virgin wife and community of whites.
Since all these religions let in non-whites now it is not worth it for us.
its okay to pretend to be Jewish as long as you're white
Then you should know that the Koran is also true, and verifiable also
It's only buried by false traditions
Compare the false tradition that the BoM is from the Americas - when it is really from Africa - this prevents the book from being well attested worldwide
The Koran witnesses that Jesus is the Christ
The scribes say it says he is not the son of God, but it witnesses that he was conceived of the Holy Ghost, only that he is not "Walad" which is son of the will of flesh -
No this is just your lie to trick people into thinking your religion is "based". Then once they put on the secret underwear you hit them with the brotherfucking and it's too late for them to back out
Seems like you should be able to quote the scripture that says that, since it's all posted publicly free and available. I'd be curious if you could even find something remotely vague that even resembles your claim.
churchofjesuschrist.org
There's everything.
There is a reason God paved the way for English to become the world language
The Community of Christ, a "Mormon" church, is a member of the National Council of Churches, which unites all of the 'mainline' denominations in the USA
This is the sanitized public version, not the official text they hand out in the temple. Nice try but I know all of your little cult tricks
This temple was once destroyed and is now built again
Shut up Satanist faggot. Mormons are 70% of the Intel agencies and are helping genocide white people.
he's pretending to be retarded. If that sentence was indeed included in the writings, it would be the first counter-argument presented through thousands of Mormon related inquires pertaining on homos. Couldn't be any easier to find a single refutation in Religious texts now-a-days. This one is a nay.
wish a nigga would tho
You are the "satanist"
it's a secret text that I have access to but can't post but that you and the rest of the Mormons don't know about but is still representative of the whole religion
but don't bother googling it because even ex-Mormons who hate the religion never bring it up and you won't get any results
Okay. This has been a great interaction.
majority white Christian religion
strong conservative culture and values
only demo filling America with more white babies
literally pol’s wet dream and you dumb faggots still hate it
i dont
they made cool guns tho
do you even know what this fanfic says
Joseph smith looks cool
You guys are literally shills trying to recruit people into your brotherfucking cult. Go put on your church panties and worship your god that's literally named "Moron" lmao
Freak
It doesn't "unite" them as if they share the same beliefs or consider themselves part of the same church. It's just a council for shared dialogue. It does not include every mainline prostestant denomination. And Mormons aren't even part of it.
You can find the full list of members here:
en.m.wikipedia.org
Jewish projection
Classic
few things happened just after after Rosetta Stone allowed us to read Egyptian:
1)Darwin published Evolution, which is also spelled out in The Book of the Dead AKA "The Great Awaking (of life)".
2)People looked for The Exodus in Egyptian records, and didn't find it.
3)Book of Mormon, based on Exodus, appeared with big money backing from unknown source.
Nothing legit Jewish, Christian or Muslim exists prior to 1000AD.
Mormons aren't even part of it
Check the list for "Latter-Day Saints"
It does not include every mainline
Who is not represented?
share the same beliefs
That is literally the requirement to be a member
I gave you a platform to validate your claims. I even helped you out by linking the scripture. I lowered the bar to be anything at all that remotely substantianted your allegations. A reddit thread. An X-post. Anything.
And here we are. Once again, you Indians having internet access means we all lose.
doesn't even deny it
Show us your special underwear you pervert
I want to laugh
Mormons and LDS are a fake dichotomy just like freemasons-jesuits and republicans-democasts. All are Jewish.
Check out this prophecy:
churchofjesuschrist.org
If you notice it has problems, they are all in punctuation; the words are infallible though
Treat "Great Britain" as the start of a new line in the list of countries war would be poured out on
So he predicted:
Civil War
WWI
WWII
Joseph Smith and the founding members of Mormonism were all Freemasons.
Canadian flag
intolerance of western white religions
shitposts incestantly
focus on calling people benchods/sibling fuckers
cannot provide even minimal evidence to wild claims
And it came to pass that it was so dull and repetitive that, Behold! I was seething with jealousy because I could make a religion that was way cooler.
They also had sex with their brothers, which is weird.
western white religions
some weird shit that mutts made up
Ok. Gonna post your jeebus bloomers or is only your brother allowed to see those?
the book of mormon is more of a supposed record of natives living in america that were descendents of jews that fled jerusalem around 600AD and were lead by god to the american continent
the people split amongst themselves between two main groups and it outlines their struggles of faith in the coming messiah of Jesus Christ and how they ultimately failed to uphold their faith after his physical resurrect visitation to them and how they were ultimately destroyed by the wicked part of the people
The only true reflection of the Lord's word is the one preached in Rome. When it's too late, don't say you weren't warned. You all are not separated brethren but willing schismatics.
They actually went to east Africa in Ethiopia &c
"skin of darkness" is not the mild tan of indians
I voted for a nigger rather than a morman
Kind of correct. It was about 600BC, not AD, shortly before the Babylonian exile of Daniel. And Lehi and Nephi and their family that fled were from the tribe of Manasseh, not Judah. No actual Jews made it to the new world.
You voted for a Lamanite
I missed Latter Day Saints, but the council still has nowhere near every church denomination in USA. There is an estimated 200 different protestant denominations in the US alone. For example: no Southern Baptist, no Independent Baptist, no Primitive Methodist, no Calvary Chapel, and many more. "Baptist" is a general term, for example, and many different denominations claim it and have their own version.
Also if you check the list it includes Eastern Orthodox and even Catholic churches, neither of whom are protestant at all and thus have different beliefs on salvation, which is the defining characteristic of any Christian denomination. Mormons also have a very different view on salvation and God. So no, they don't share the same beliefs either.
To be clear, I don't consider myself protestant at all and I'm not a part of the council nor do I support it.
I'll continue to trust in Jesus Christ alone, and not any pastor, priest, nor pope, be they from the USA or Rome. But go ahead and see where trusting in a man gets you.
What did you expect, they believed in the first 2 prequals too
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
en.wikipedia.org
Mormons' view on salvation is correct
Man was given agency and the plan of salvation is to bring men to the testimony of truth so they choose to believe God and repent
On the surface, it's not a bad gig. You get to go on a 2 year vacation being funded by the church to another place to peddle the religion and then you can get promised a wife after you complete your missionary assignment. The only problem is you actually have to swallow down this tedious horseshit and live the rest of your life indoctrinated in a batshit cult.
Mormonism is the unholy union of protestant christianity and freemasonry
Lamanite
whatever
morman religion is as fake as scientology
and even worse writing
mormans are so cringe that even a nigger is a better choice
also less likely to have married his own 12 year old daughter
It's a cult but it's our cult damnit!
Mormons literally believe that Jesus is a created being and the brother of Lucifer. So no, they aren't even Christian.
Actually, scratch that, I just double checked and you don't even get paid for the missionary stuff lolz. Mormons really are stingy Jews.
Only 1% of Americans are mormon. There are more mormons outside the US
Satanic
actually, they send all the young men away so the old perverts won't have young bucks there to object when the old fucks keep the young girls to themselves
Satan wants to bind man to sin
God wants you to be free
God gave you the agency to choose to believe in him
How is that different that different than any other mainline Christian denomination
Jesus always is the created version of the Father who takes physical form?
Better than believing that you can transfer your sins to a chicken
You put one hand up, I respect that; anything that is new to me and confounding I cannot accept at face value, but be careful.
And now, if there are faults they are the mistakes of men; wherefore, condemn not the things of God, that ye may be found spotless at the judgment-seat of Christ.
- Book of Mormon title page
People are stupid, that's a general problem in this world.
be autismwalking home after work
guy with american accent stops me
”hai, can ah talk to yew for a secund?”
”have yew hurd of the mormon fayth?”
say i like premarital sex and kept walking
was a virgin at the time but like, you’re in one of the most christian countries literally preaching to the converted. aside from the weird space rock shit that is.
Says here in the book of Mormon that Jewish Churches are an abomination and the whore of the world. very contradictory compared to whatever you heard.
Wrong. No new revelation will be from God. Only the religion of the Apostles is correct all this faggot rock reading which he couldn't replicate is bullshit
No new revelation will be from God
That is what the Jews said
They crucified him for testifying "Ye are Gods" which is written in the Old Testament
Paul was called separate to the apostles by vision, just like Joseph Smith, directly by Jesus Christ.
you are like baby, so new in history
And it came to pass, that charlatan freemason Joseph Smith who's already plagiarized The Bible to an insane degree would also plagiarize the condemnation of Jews (despite Mormons being Jews themselves, except they dress better and smile more).
Respect for using "and it came to pass"
That is what they said about the Christians
how is Joe smith any more a charlatan than any other christian preacher
Protestantism hasnt proved its case against Catholicism either
you are all heathens and the only authority of the church on earth is the Pope
It appaels to White fantasy.
Respect for holding strong to your beliefs.
no they didn't, they became autistic about the rules thinking the rules themselves were above God.
They lost the plot, same as mormons have, you do not resemble Christianity whatsoever, even less than heretic schismatic protestants and papists. You are straight up aliens inventing fanfiction, like Muhammad.
Honestly, you Catholics are almost up there with Mormons for silliness for me, but at least you don't go as crazy with the fan fiction.
There are a lot of "mormons" in Africa
Maybe because the Book is from ancient Ethiopia and could not possibly be fabricated
churchofjesuschrist.org
Catholics are ran by the Jewish Jesuits.
They ultimately worship Satan.
Mary false idol
symbolic cannibalism
Jesus's foreskin is a hole artifact
see
They’re fags that wanna have gay orgies and pretend it’s because they’re into women when really they’re into gay fag sex
Pass
Such obvious shilling
LDS theology is too liberating for Satanists to ignore
Fortunately the book is being unsealed and revealed to more and more people that it is true it is ancient and it is from Africa
We need a /rel/ board
But have you seen the golden plates? there are thousand of letters between the original mormons and Joseph smith all in discussion of them. all kept record by the LDS chuch.
so was my great great great grandfather that we have copies of these letters just lying about what he knew?
YOU CALLIN MY ANCESTOR A LIAR
why would they spend so much time and energy just to lie?
why do the mormons today keep so much record of information and spread the book of mormon if it was just a lie.
and thats why outsiders are not aloud to see the golden plates.
YOU ARE HERETICS.
It says explicitly that race mixing with shitskins is verboten, but Mormon gen Z foids are marrying short, ugly shitskins by the boat load these days, so now the white Mormon men have to resort to spic goblinas, gooks and negresses unless they’re giga chads
Good. Mormons being weird unironically helps keep bigger weirdos away.
I'm not confused at all, because I have actually read the history of the Christian Church. But I know for certain people are straight up blind, they have a veil over their eyes when they get drawn into cults. They don't ask questions like "why does this thing that I'm in not resemble anything at all that came before it? Was God lying or did He not give us enough information before now? What about all the people that came before, why didn't they have this 'truth' that I am being told today, and why does their 'truth' about the universe completely differ from the one I'm being told? What happened to all those churches founded by the Apostles? How did they practice? What did they believe? Why is Islam wrong for having a new prophet that changed God's words dramatically but Mormonism is somehow different?"
Read St Ignatius and St Clement who were taught by the Apostles themselves, and kept the teachings that the Apostles gave "by word and by letter"
2nd Epistle to the Thessalonians 2:15 "Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle."
when really they’re into gay fag sex
It's only permitted between brothers
see
Dude, there's no legitimacy to the LDS. It's so ridiculous that they had the balls to actually try to say "Look, we're confirming the OT and the NT, but uh...we're also going to take a giant shit all over it. Jesus was a man who became God, you can become God too (even though it's stated ad nauseam throughout the OT and NT that there is only one God to worship), you can't enter heaven unless Joseph Smith gives you the go ahead (undermining God's authority that's been established for some reason, but he's cool with it apparently), there's a jeet caste system in Heaven and the lower jeets don't have genitals, etc.
It's so absolutely bonkers that I might have actually enjoyed reading the batshit craziness if the actual writing in the book wasn't so goddamn boring.
I have read some of those, I like 2nd Clement
Don't sweat the difficulties
people watch that one episode of south park and that one video on youtube thats been on there since 2007 and think they understand the entire mormon faith, but these were always in bad faith representations of the LDS faith.
Ye are gods
only one God = only one divine NATURE or ESSENCE which transcends the "trinity" or godhead
Don't they also think there's nine earths and Jesus went to all of them? Don't they also think Jesus went to america? The entire thing seems like a test of the limits of credulity. Weird panty wearing freaks
Schizo mental gymnastics
he is both a mormon and a muslim at the same time
Modern day Hindu mishmash of religionslop.
The street food that you are preaching is brown and drippy and I don't want any.
Loser
I am a Christian who believes all things as Paul says
You insult the Word of God in your veil of ignorance and condemn only yourself.
You are literally wearing satin panties right now
Repent and believe the Gospel
who believes all things
You pick and choose what you believe.
You are not a Christian.
You will call me mishmash because I believe the Law as well as the Gospel and eat only clean foods
You are the one with no authority
I pick the Word of God and choose to reject the commandments of man
Mormon is a tame,western, more palatable version of Islam
- multiple wives
- food taboos (pork for muslims, "hot liquids" for mormons and a few others)
- no alcohol
- donate percentage of salary to the church (zakat for muslims, tithings for mormons)
- believe jesus was real but not a super important figure
- monotheistic
- probably some more similarities
All four gospels, John Mark Matthew and Luke, are infallible and inerrant. I confess the Nicene creed!
you see the people that killed joseph smith were polish immigrants. and the polish immigrants were catholics.
and you see what happened is that the pope in the 1800's KNEW about joseph smith. and that pope disavowed the idea that "new religion" could be found in america. because in teh 1800's there were alot of people finding faith.
but the geniuen difference maker is that joseph smith actually found an archeological artifact.
and the pope propagandized retarded polish catholics to kill him
so its always been a position of the catholics to hate the mormons. because the catholics are teh biggest record keepers of christanity and tehy though they knew everything and there was no way in hell Jesus came to america or that america was even visited by europeans 2000 years ago.
and the golden plates challenge that narrative and basically challenge the seat of power of the pope and the catholic monopoly they had over jesus's name.
not a super important figure
ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God
MESSIAH
They're the last bastion of the frontier spirit that has any real cultural power in America, not Christfags.
Based
You think all of us believe in this stupidity?
Imagine what salvific work it will accomplish among them once the Book of Mormon is accepted by Africans as being of their own ancestors
ideal Bible title page:
We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible; and in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of his Father before all worlds, the Only Begotten, that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made both in heaven and on earth; who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; he suffered and was buried; and the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father;
And he shall come again, with glory, to judge both the living and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end. But those who say, There was a time when he was not, and, He was not before he was made, and, He was made out of nothing, or, He is of another substance or essence, or, The Son of God is created or changeable or alterable; they are condemned by the holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. And we believe in the Holy Ghost—the Lord, the Giver of Life, who proceedeth from the Father—; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the Prophets. And we believe in one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church; we acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins; and we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Yes
I grew up Mormon and that phrase puts me to sleep everytime. I'm finally reading the Bible and am pissed Mormon churches didn't focus on it more because it is infinitely more interesting and valid.
Book of Mormon title page:
Wherefore, it is an abridgment of the record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites—Written to the Lamanites, who are a remnant of the house of Israel; and also to Jew and Gentile—Written by way of commandment, and also by the spirit of prophecy and of revelation—Written and sealed up, and hid up unto the Lord, that they might not be destroyed—To come forth by the gift and power of God unto the interpretation thereof—Sealed by the hand of Moroni, and hid up unto the Lord, to come forth in due time by way of the Gentile—The interpretation thereof by the gift of God.
An abridgment taken from the Book of Ether also, which is a record of the people of Jared, who were scattered at the time the Lord confounded the language of the people, when they were building a tower to get to heaven—Which is to show unto the remnant of the house of Israel what great things the Lord hath done for their fathers; and that they may know the covenants of the Lord, that they are not cast off forever—And also to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God, manifesting himself unto all nations—And now, if there are faults they are the mistakes of men; wherefore, condemn not the things of God, that ye may be found spotless at the judgment-seat of Christ.
I dont know but the fact that they try to weasel out of galatians 1:8 when a supposed angel from heaven delivered them a different message is wild.
Galatians 1:8
King James Version
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Well, you're a fucking idiot, canuck.
Congrats.
You quote Paul, who was called like Joseph Smith by special vision, outside of the Apostles' authority
ideal bible title page is ecumenical propaganda meant to politicize christianity and seize power between disparate denominations
I call you a mishmash because you are somehow a pagan Hindu, a Mormon, an Islamist, and apparently, a Pharisaical Jew all at the same time. It's schizophrenic religion soup.
I confess the Nicene creed!
You can say the words but that doesn't mean you believe what the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church believes. You probably say the filioque too, just so that you can get the high score on the heresy slop leaderboard.
No filioque, but you changed the Creed (again a mishmash), which is anathema. So basically the same thing the Roman Catholics did.
I agree with you on both points; also, Jacob 7:27. I lold the first time I read it.
of course its your job as a trad catholic to denounce the idea of that the teachings in your books are true and other faiths are false
tell your pope nigger boss i said hi.
I don’t believe in that retarded shit. It should be why do Mormons believe in that shit. Not Americans.
Trad Catholics HATE HIM
watch him overthrow their monopolization of Jesus Christ by finding this one thing.
changed the creed
Did not. I left everything in from Nicaea. Both creeds are true, so I give a true testimony of them both with zero omissions
filioque
irrelevant as it is not in the Greek
schizophrenic
Persecution is sin.
Adding to this that Galatians 1:8 was probably added by the Catholic Church to stop the spread of the true, revealed word...
No
Indeed though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Most are indoctrinated at a young age and grow up getting this garbage stuffed into their heads by their families. It's quite literally a Satanic and heretical cult, and all the talk of Mormons being nice to interact with just hides the insidiousness of it all. I've seen that same glazy eyed "happiness" and naivety for that UFO cult that offed themselves because they were roped in.
Can someone clarify their actual thoughts on Christ and salvation without the deceptive precanned vagaries they have to try and trick Christians into thinking they have the same beliefs? If I understand correctly they don't believe Christ is God in the flesh? They believe Christ is just one of many Gods? Their take on salvation seems to steer dangerously close to legalism if not a direct head-on car crash into it.
And I heard they believe we were conscious before we were born as humans and that we consented to inhabit these fleshly forms? Is that correct? With the endgame being we'll be reunited with our former consciousness and returned to our former glory? Because that especially feels like textbook New Age Satanism. I could already picture the Antichrist deception promising the mark of the beast will reunite you with your "former consciousness" when in actuality the mark would just allow a demon to possess you, so they'd see their loved ones take the mark, act like a completely different person thinking they've returned to their "former glory" when they were actually just possessed by a demon.
Magic underwear
You are the Satanists. Stop shilling your crap
I left everything in from Nicaea. Both creeds are true
Nah. They were founded not by divine revelation, but were openly about a political struggle in the church and a power grab by Alexander to oust Arius and gain Constantine's favor. The fact that was openly documented and not even disputed by the Church but still somehow memoryholed into being a cornerstone of Christian teachings is baffling.
Jesus was a man who became God, you can become God too
Literally every single Freemason website says this. Either you can become a God or get eternal life.
Hint: Freemasonry's "royal secret" is the belief you can live forever by spiritually vampirizing children. Aka raping and eating them.
Christ is God in flesh
God as in divine nature or essence per creed
Not God as in God the Father the separate person
Though he and his father are one
It is the opposite of legalism - ignore the commandments of man and believe the Gospel
Jews said effectively Jesus's teaching of "Ye are gods" was 'New Age Satanism'
see my other posts
so I give a true testimony of them both with zero omissions
That's called changing it, retard. The Fathers said the finalized Creed is the Creed of the Church, and CANNOT be changed. Even adding back language from the first version of the Creed is a change.
You cant larp as an Apostolic Christian, actual Apostolic Christians have been taught to smell heresy for miles, we say the Creed literally every day, sometimes twice.
Also, telling you that you're wrong is not persecution. You really are a Jew with this kind of delusion and victim complex.
Read this screenshot if you feel secure in your beliefs.
Their magic underwear has fremason symbols on it. A square and compass stitched on the nipples. / and L
You see, once upon a time, there were these 2 guys, Lehi and Nephi. and they were commanded by the god of isreal to leave. but before that could happen, they had to retrieve the brass plates that held the genealogy, and the teaching of God passed on by Abraham........
The creed is actually acceptable though and useful because it comes from the time the NT bible was compiled in its final form
They crucified him for testifying "Ye are Gods" which is written in the Old Testament
The scripture of the Pharisees claimed they were gods. The belief that we are or can become a god is Satanism.
The scripture of the Pharisees
You mean the Psalms?
Trump the woke right cuck banned all AI porn now he wants to ban all regular porn because woke mormon cuck mike lee bent him over and jizzed in his behind. The woke right not even once.
You can be a loser with no gift if you want
bourboun and whiskey from tennesee
henessey straight from the bottle
gyno, and faith God will cure
(pic)
Lots of "Apostolic" christians impose celibacy on their priests
Mormons are anything but Arian btw, but you would have to study it up for yourself to know anything on the subject.
They see Jesus Christ as a tool to use for their own self-worship, which is why they paint him as someone along the lines of themselves, which is where the whole "You can become a god" bullshit stems from. It's Satanic to the core, and it's why they throw in "Joseph Smith decides if you will be granted the Kingdom of Heaven". They'll blabber about the importance of Jesus and then punt him aside by making their false prophet that great of a being that even he supersedes God in that responsibility.
Then after they left the went into the mountains where Nephi had visions of the Birth of the Lord and the fall of Jerusalem. before fucking off to norther europe to immigrate to the coast.
at the coast they built a boat and came to america.
where Nephi later transferred the teaching of abraham to the golden plates.
Humble yourself and be exalted
read the Bible not the commands of man
I disagree. The crux of the creed is about Christ being the same entity as God. The establishment of the Trinity. Nothing in any scripture or revelation suggests that to be true, and in fact, most established scripture contradicts it. But Constantine wanted all the disparate denominations brought under one umbrella, and the two strongest were Arius (suggesting that biblical scripture was correct and that Jesus was not literally God) and Alexander that his personal pet belief about the Trinity was correct. Alexander's faction won out.
I could accept that the mind and ways of God are unknowable and we can't codify His relationship with Christ. That's fair. But trinitarians base their religious views on political non-religious powergrabs.
You don't have gifts, you have pride and you value your own conclusions.
And you have no response.
Go to Orthodox Church and dismiss your fumbling for the truth. You don't have to figure it all out yourself.
Yeah but I don't subscribe to your man's teaching of any crux of any creed but to the creed itself as it is written in the original greek not marred by heretics who think Only Begotten Son means Only Son which contradicts John 1
"Mormon" godhead doctrine is clearest explanation of "trinity" in English
Scary to see brainwashing this hardcore, but I'm not surprised. If it's any consolation, Muslims undergo the same thing.
and bascially they started a colony in America where jesus christ later came and taught them more things about the lord where they transcribed them unto the golden plates. later they were killed off by shitty native americans but before that the last one of their tribe buried the teachings of abraham and jesus in the earth which was later found by Joseph Smith
thats the real story of morons.
False. Nearly all Christian sects -- including Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants -- believe that Jesus is the eternally existing Son and part of the Godhead which includes the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
I don't care what "Apostolic" "Christians" do, I care what Christ's One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church says. Orthodox priests are not cucked.
Mormons deny Christ is God, the One God. That's Arian enough to be following in Arius' footsteps.
You don't have gifts
You wouldn't know because you haven't ever experienced the Holy Ghost in full
And these plates were found and testified to by Joseph Smith's friends and family only. Convenient, innit?
Jesus was a man who became God, you can become God too
I've been able to infer that is their beliefs based off the little I looked up, but do any of their scripture blatantly outright say that? That line is so comically Satanic I find it hard to believe any of their scripture outright states that but instead dresses it in allusions and implications.
It's Satanic to the core, and it's why they throw in "Joseph Smith decides if you will be granted the Kingdom of Heaven".
And who is this Joseph Smith faggot? Is he the head of their church or something?
I mean, the Bible doesn't say anything about this Joseph Smith fellow. That anon seems to be making a lot of sense to me.
Jews said effectively Jesus's teaching of "Ye are gods" was 'New Age Satanism'
Spare me your spiel, we are not gods and we are not the fallen angels either.
I don't want what you've got, it's schizophrenic religionslop like I said.
The only upside is that you are too absurd to lead anyone else astray, nobody is falling for it
you have no response
You have deaf ears.
Do you know how Muslims and jews insult each other? By telling the other to start going to church on Sunday and choking on some god toast and becoming a polytheist. Not even joking
Are we sure you're not talking about the Torah?
and jews hate us because Nephi jacked the brass plates from their scholo heretics of satan because Lehi was his distant relative so there was some kind of redemption of the teachings of abraham going into the hands of them instead of the Jews.
and the jews are big stinky demons.
How was this episode wrong? youtu.be
You curse yourself, heretic; I warned you.
we are not gods
You guys both should read the Bible some time.
Nobody cares, Ahmed. Shoo.
Fair enough. My objection was more that the Nicene Creed itself, which historically is purely a political powergrab tool, was the ideal title page of the bible. The majority of the Creed is good and solid doctrine. But its purpose and its role in the history of the church immediately discredits it from that position.
I don't have a great substitute, mind you. Maybe James 2:24 or Jeremiah 1:5, but honestly only because I hypocritically use them in political arguments a lot.
It is a teaching in the whole Old Testament
If you reject that you are a Marcionite type of heretic
Like
God said to Joseph Smith that all the creeds and confessions of man are an abomination to him, but I think the Nicene creed is acceptable as an exception, because it comes from when the Bible was compiled and serves to unite against heresy rather than bind people to false teachings of man. I would never condemn people for not attesting to it, but it is a good summation of Christian faith.
You can't call me a heretic if you don't even have exclusive beliefs. That's like saying you're banning me from your country but your country doesn't have borders
I'm too savvy for New Age bullshit. I also think the New Age deception is so obviously Satanic that Satan wont even employ it as part of the Antichrist deception. There is no room in the Antichrist kingdom for people who think they can become God, the Antichrist himself is who non-believers will worship as God. So I actually think the Antichrist will BTFO you New Agers when he steps on the scene.
Anyone who preaches a different gospel than I have preached is accursed
new age
The Bible is over 2000 years old
are you a mummy?
You obviously care. Jesus wasn't god, he came out of a vagina and got slapped around by Jews. He was a jew rabbi. Stop thinking a Jew was god lmao that's just embarrassing
Jesus is God in that he embodies the divine nature and essence
Jesus is not Allah in that he is not the same person but is the Only Begotten Son
Read my posts
It lacked context. The entirety of the Bible is full of the same incredulous and unbelievable occurrences. Talking donkeys, possessed pigs, magic cloaks and staves, magic text only readable by Daniel, et cetera. But modern Christians are largely illiterate of their own religion, so the events surrounding Joseph Smith sound farfetched.
Hey quick question Eldar since I cant ask the people in my ward without outing myself-
Whats the Mormon stance on Hitler? And not the ridiculous Hollywood holohoax Hitler portrayed in media, the real one
modern Christians are largely illiterate of their own religion
see:
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No he isn't. He was a rabbi lol. Who in their right mind would worship some Jew?
calls an Orthodox Christian a marcionite
wow, you are deep in it, I agree with anon
Joseph was a Jew, sure. But Jesus wasn't the son of Joseph, he was the son of the Virgin Mary which makes him a Levite.
200yo religion is "new age"
What does "joint-heirs with Christ" mean to you? We're going to receive the same inheritance he has but not really?
I love how you completely missed his point.
Shills may seethe at MormonChads but compare any state to Utah and your state has higher crime, uglier women, higher std rates, less white births and more niggers. Mormonchads must be doing something right
Lord have mercy on you for saying that
You are just a shallow pseudoChristian with no gift of the Holy Ghost
You should read the Gospel
I've been able to infer that is their beliefs based off the little I looked up, but do any of their scripture blatantly outright say that? That line is so comically Satanic I find it hard to believe any of their scripture outright states that but instead dresses it in allusions and implications.
They have tons of verses
Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods
Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them.
Abraham received concubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness, because they were given unto him, and he abode in my law; as Isaac also and Jacob did none other things than that which they were commanded; and because they did none other things than that which they were commanded, they have entered into their exaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but are gods.
But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to multiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be glorified.
Basically, Joseph Smith had a breeding fetish and he worked that into saying that you can become a God through it. Wonder why Mormons aren't worshiping Elon Musk at this point.
Be not afraid to rebuke a heretic after two or three times
He was a rabbi that studied the Torah. That's a Jude in my eyes. And if he wasn't a Jew why was he circumcised? For funsies? Also god was circumcised? Holy kek
Ye are gods
I live 1500 miles from Utah that's further than London to Ukraine
Now Kanye is god too? Bruh whatever I'm just gonna go pray then go to sleep
act holier than thou
act like yo7 have secret knowledge
deflect criticism
blame people who don't agree for not taking your statements as gospel
Yup, mormonism is a cult. If I want pompous people grand standing to me I'll read a Freemason website.
Israelites =/= Jews
“John Smith says Jesus was born in Missouri and I’m willing to believe that if I get some pussy out of the deal.” - Mormans
They're not Christians
Mormons are big on family history. When Hitler first came to power the Mormons were a fan because of his policies on genealogy (you can look up old SL Trib articles on this)
Current Mormons (the members, not the church itself) are immersed in jewish propaganda just like the rest of america, so its hit or miss.
Read the prophecy in here
churchofjesuschrist.org
Cut a new line with "Even the nation of Great Britain" to restore it from scribal error, all the words are true but the versification and punctuation is artificial
There is reference to sore vexation, and that I believe can refer to Germans who suffered after WWI.
Keep going and you'll hit Baptist levels when you start to talk about the hellfire and brimstone I will suffer. Then you'll make double sure to chase everyone away from the "truth" that has so far only been revealed to you.
Tribe of Judah = Jew.
secret
No, it is well attested
And you are the pompous grand standing boomer-tier poster
It doesn't take long to look up President Grant's opinion on the war. Officially the church remained politically neutral in WW2. We didn't oppose or endorse the Nazis.
And yet Peter Jackson commanded them both
Because the Baptist, who is baptized of the Holy Ghost, has more than your water baptism, and has authority over you.
Makes sense. I have no real way to bring this up to the YSA I'm in and I've only known these people for like a month, but its important to me. I dont think they realize how much overlap there is between NatSoc and Mormanism, and I have no way of explaining that without also denying the holocaust. It sucks. Some I assume are based but I cant tell if its kosher based or Anon Babble based
The Book of Mormon is from Africa
In April 1942 the First Presidency declared the Church’s position on war.
“When, therefore, constitutional law, obedient to these principles, calls the manhood of the Church into the armed service of any country to which they owe allegiance, their highest civic duty requires that they meet that call. If, harkening to that call and obeying those in command over them, they shall take the lives of those who fight against them, that will not make of them murderers, nor subject them to the penalty that God has prescribed for those who kill”
So, Germans fight for Germany, Americans fight for America, etc.
Notice how only one of them is reading the Script
It's interesting to me that in this whole thread throughout our conversation, you seem to affirm that all faiths:
-Mormonism
-Islamism
-Hindu-pagan universalism
-Jewdaism
-Catholicism
-'ol jimbob's Baptist Protestantism
are all somehow correct... All but the Orthodox Church.
All religions are man made bullshit. This one isn't much worse than the others.
You are the "satanic" obsessed one
And who is this Joseph Smith faggot? Is he the head of their church or something?
Literally some freemason farm boy that can't write for shit and started larping as a prophet that somehow, someway snared unfortunate souls to this day into praising his dogshit writing and tenets.
Retarded as it may be, it's no worse than this utter crapbomb of psychopathic nonsense.
Talk about an utter shit religion.
It's like they just decided to write a book about how fucking awful they are as people because they wanted to keep notes so they could learn to get even worse.
Very reasonable take. 10% of the Mormans in Germany died fighting for the Reich and they weren't persecuted by the government, though they had issues with the Hitler Youth- but that was really more of a scheduling conflict issue than ideological one
Is the location important?
Yet you never debunked me pointing out Joseph Smith was a freemason and mormonism is freemason christianity.
You are mad; you are not like us.
No it's from a kike bastard who lies to Christians because he got caught cheating on his wife or some shit.
i read about half of it and got bored. it's written in this fake old-timey bible way and nothing really interesting happens. never saw anything about being gay with a bro either. i wish it was actually as whacky as haters try to make it. its BORING BORING BORING:
and behold it came to pass blah blah
and then it came to pass that such and such promised literally who to behold whatever.
and behold so it was beheld and it came to pass
Is the location important
There is a reason hardly any Indians have accepted the Book - it is literally not their ancestors' sealed tome
It is for black people.
Doesn't believe in the trinity, Denies the eternal nature of God, not Christian, just a fucked up heretical cult.
(With a strong community I am envious of.)
Doesn't believe in the trinity, Denies the eternal nature of God, not Christian, just a fucked up heretical cult.
You are wrong on four counts.
With a strong community I am envious of.
Study my posts
It sounds almost based in a way, but you still have to shit on it for being completely heretical and satanic filth
Lol retard
I'd just emphasize how important ancestry is. They have church callings/missionaries specifically for assisting with family history. Just tie race in to that and you're good.
a man can have multiple women
a woman can't have more than one man (and is forces to share him with other women)
What would Jesus think of this?
He never denied this post
see
Probably think "This nigga a massive coomer"
Yup. Also they believe you can become a God or live forever. Hubris against God.
LIAR
Loser.
(With a strong community I am envious of.)
That is the fleshy temptation Satan is offering you if you forsake Christ and convert. I've been offered this temptation in the flesh, stand strong in Christ.
What kind of father doesn't want his children to become better than he is? Is your God picrel?
Bible doesn't support the trinity, only roman creed and later supports it
Good to know- I'll ask the missionaries next time we meet. Any other tips? I'm all ears
1972 - they brought the Book of Mormon to the moon - they got this picture of the Holy Land, of Mecca, and of THE NATIVE CONTINENT OF THE BOOK OF MORMON.
Satanists LARPing as Christians.
This is a very sound and correct post
God doesn't want man to be held in bondage but to exercise his free agency for productive ends
The only church that demands its members have kids
rumble.com
I thought the first couple of chapters were actually pretty interesting. Magic swords, evil brothers, literal angels appearing left and right, a second ark, etc.
Now, the Book of Alma...
Alma is long like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and could be split in two like Kings and Chronicles
Read this one chapter and believe:
It’s coded with racism. Literally part of the canon.
Mormons are a legitimate racial-power-bloc in America. But, they make a lot of money facilitating drug smuggling and human trafficking. They are going to get what they deserve some day.
Book of Mormon says to not revile anyone for the color of their skin
We the People are destined for the stars..
most conservative, traditional voting bloc in the country and there's not even a close second
only major white demographic with high birth rates
"those fuckers are going to get what they deserve someday!"
(((suspicious))) take you have there
So is America
Joseph Smith was a freemason and they velieve they can usurp God. Mormons are the jews.
Its not like they teach "do what thou wilt" and theyre very upfront about Satan, the allure of evil, and the war in Heaven. One would think that if they were Satanists they wouldn't directly tell you to not be a Satanist. How does preaching obedience to God and to reject pride make you a Satanist?
They evangelize all over the planet and have a huge spanish following
Only young children and so older victims of child sex crimes actually believe it.
Read Mein Kampf and deconvert from Naziism
number of sexual partners of average adults
on the contrary, its being concentrated on a small group of men and a greater portion of women.
mormons are parasites, they created the system we have now, they don't care about the rest, they just care about themselves, rule for themselves
n-no, you're the jew!
It's astonishing at how you recoiled, how injured you are, how you've suddenly shrunk back: "I’ve been found out.
And yet, Mormons are the true Jews, and the true Israelites, and America is the true ZION
Jewish Mormons stand out too much. You guys have freemason stitching on your underwear. Quit pretending you're not Judaism followers.
True Judaism accepts Christ
I have read MK, I've yet to see anything in it that is incompatible with Mormonism. Hence why I asked. NatSoc is secular.
Hitler failed just like Napoleon
Secular things fail when they refuse truth
Back up what youre saying, what are the actual tenets that you have issues with? Jews dont belive in an afterlife and they dont belive in mercy
This is true. But I wouldn't phrase it as the true Jews. Mormons (and to a lesser extent all Christians) are the true ISRAELITES and the Chosen People of God. Christ told the Jews directly in the Book of Matthew:
"Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."
Well until Christ shows up we have to have some form of government, and democracy has turned out to be a corrupted mess. God is not ignorant of government.
Salvation is of the Jews - the whole Old Testament before Jesus
And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.
And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites.
Literally calling Black people cursed kek
They are confounded from their brethren like after Babel
That is on all mankind
God is no respecter of Persons
God commands we not revile people because of their skin color
Read the Book
I don't like how Jews have been conflated with Israelites. They were only one of the twelve tribes, none of the major Old Testament figures were from Judah (not Moses, not Joshua, not Samson, not Saul, not even Christ himself).
Judea lasted when Israel was dispersed and had prophets for longer
I wish I could decipher your indoctrinated babble. Reject Mormonism and embrace the true Bible and Christ, anon. You don't need this satanist garbage to chain you down.
David was from Judah and all his descendents
Read my posts from the beginning of the thread over again.
The gold plates had inscriptions on them similar to Mesoamerican cultural practices - which Joseph Smith couldn't have known about with his limited education.
Well until Christ shows up
The Antichrist will show up first and he will be more likeable then most people realize. We will get out ethno state at the cost of our soul.
Eh. Did it though? When the Kingdom split, Judea lasted what? 300 years?
see
Outside Solomon and Christ's adopted father, that means what?
And mother
See what? That's not alluring when it requires forsaking Christ to be part of it.
Don't question it, just be happy the retarded golem kristkangers exist at all, to be exploited by us jews for their lack of critical thinking abilities.
no you can't have an ethnostate because... uh... the anti christ and stuff
but everyone else can theyre fine
just not white people
How convenient for globohomo and the jews.
Except
You don't have to forsake Christ
Mary was a Levite according to scripture.
Jews are not israelites or of the tribes of Judah. They are caananite baal worshippers.
Luke's genealogy
For genealogical questions refer to Numbers and 1 Chronicles disparities' explanations
Luke's genealogy specifically names Joseph's line. He never metnions Mary at all. The one and only time Mary and her family's tribe is mentioned, it's that they're Levites.
This is explained I believe in Eusebius
All except the Mormons
Look again. They're starting to suffer the same thing as everyone else when it comes to feminism and birthrates.
Even last year, their prophet made a proclamation that things are going to get really bad in the near future. Like brother against brother type shit, marriage bonds being broken. Obviously he didn't receive a revelation from God, but it's the fact the absolute head of the Mormon religion said "Shit's about to get fucked".
Jesus was of the tribes of Judah which is why he was so mad about Jews pretending to be Judeans.
New thread
Not to my knowledge. Can you link something? Because the scripture as written shows that Christ was raised with Joseph as his father, fulfilling prophecy as being of Davidian descent, but biologically, he was a Levite being only of Mary's flesh.
Joseph Smith decides if you will be granted the Kingdom of Heaven.
this kills the mormon
There's nothing wrong with having one but our desire for one is clearly being manufactured and will be used against us. Western countries are being flooded with savages as a punishment from God. It's something he does in the Old Testament, he flood nations with savages to punish them for being disobedient. Western countries have been blessed and since we've strayed away from God he's been flooding us with these invaders. These invaders will be dealt with but I will be immediately sceptical of the "saviour" who takes them down. Problem. Reaction. Solution. The invaders are the problem, you want them gone, here comes your so-called "saviour" to take care of the problem.
Does a late 30s white man convert have a chance at snatching an 18-25 year old white cute to attractive mormon wife if he lies about his age?
In the singles wards
So we just do nothing? Again, very convenient for globohomo. It was our inaction that got us here in the first place. I'm not expecting a messiah but its defeatist to just claim that any competent leader is going to be the anti-christ. That's been said for 2,000 years now. Besides, I'm far more likely to believe that globohomo will be the one offering the miraculous solution, not us.
Happens all the time. For some peculiar reason, the singles wards always seem to have more women than men. I think because the men are eager to get married at 19, and a lot of women graduate BYU to find that their marriage opportunities have plummeted.
Lying is a bad way to start a marriage anon
(-:
So we just do nothing?
No, we pray to God and ask for mercy.
Again, very convenient for globohomo.
If this is your response to my above line then you're not in faith at all and have completely exposed your faith in "Mormonism". Completely focused on the deeds of the flesh rather than the spirit, just as you rely on the physical leadership of your physical churches rather than ACTUALLY having TRUE spiritual faith in the blood sacrifice God performed in the flesh as Jesus Christ to redeem you of your sins.
It was our inaction that got us here in the first place.
No, it was our nations forsaking God. These cabal Illuminati Satanists are importing these invaders, but God is ALLOWING them to as a punishment for forsaking him.
Besides, I'm far more likely to believe that globohomo will be the one offering the miraculous solution, not us.
The Antichrist will be based and redpilled. Satan doesn't want to oppress you. He wants to give you everything you ask for because you will worship him for it.
see
I'm not a Mormon yet, I just met these people a month ago and thus far have had good experiences. I also dont believe that we should expect God to do all the work. That's not how it happened in any book of any Bible. He gave us willpower and capabilities for a reason. God isnt just going to smite these people with lightning for being bad. His style tends to be blessing the faction that follows his teaching with strength and victory, and sapping the strength from their opponents. That doesn't happen if you never leave the house.
Summary of the free will debate:
Ill also point out that if youre wrong you risk dooming our people for centuries or millenia. Youre counting on the anti-christ showing up imminently but we have no way of knowing that. Christians have held their breath for the apocalypse for a long time. If I'm wrong then w/e, Christ comes down and it won't be a problem. If youre wrong then we're stuck in this shitshow, possibly having forsaken the lifeline that God offered because you were too paranoid about the anti-christ.
I write this from the perspective of an Old West history enthusiast and an amateur anthropologist...
Because it's a uniquely American religion born in the days of the American frontier. It could be argued that a big part of why a lot of the American frontier was sucessfully settled because of the Mormons. I feel had the Mormons sucessfully fended off the Federal government and settled the frontier for themselves... the entire world might look very different today.
Also...
Mormonism also used to be WAY more based and pro-white than it is today. Like most American churches, they weren't always as "tolerant" as they are now.
That said
Jim Bridger was way more badass than the Mormons.
Because the same principle applies to the bible and all supposedly sacred texts.