Intellectualism is fucking dead

I agree. "Liberalism" is grossly misunderstood. It is not highly ideological. Leftism is ideological. Liberalism is more like centrism, and it's often accompanied by pessimism of some flavor. The academic flavor is very similar to corporatism, because everyone is afraid of losing funding for their research or popularity among the other friends and students for not being nice. It's in this environment that liberalism of academia brews.

At least in the United States the vast majority of people who go to college shouldn't but for decades they've been intent on increasing enrollment. Maybe it is the same in Germany.

They eat up all the funding and achieve nothing

new. but they can turn a 13 year old girl into a boy by chopping her tits off and commanding you to call her a boy. you were crazy if you denied that covid was bat soup, there were consequences for not getting vaxxed, youre still crazy for saying the official story on 9/11 is retarded

Imagine being Indian and hiding in that bush

liberalism and leftism: a compare and contrast essay

by anonymous internet poster

still thinking uni is for learning

lol sweaty summer man-child, you’ve never past elementary school.

i had the suspicion that this applies to STEM too... people just forcing themself through it for the prestige / clout. Thanks for confirming.

any more of Frau von Onepiece?

surprises me

I cannot think that anyone would be genuinely impressed by your philosophy degree from Adult Daycare University. It is telling, however, that you still hold on to the outdated belief that degrees are meaningful.

I AM AN INTELLECTUAL, GOD DAMN IT! I HAVE THE CERTIFICATE TO PROVE IT!

Let's just say that I would do the sexy thingy to her if you know what I mean.

It's quite bad in Germany: University attendence is free, and you have no maximum semester count, so people can study without getting a degree for decades (This actually happens frequently, there are certain social security benefits to just never graduating).

So it's worse because people will do this on the back of hard working people funding them.

It's the same in architecture. A very well selected group, hard to get in, and still perhaps 5% of them are interested in architecture at all, meaning that I could discuss with them about something generic and on topic, like art nouveau. Off-topic they are just as normies as the run of the mill normies and their basic knowledge about history and philosophy, for example, is next to non-existent. What do they discuss, then? The most normie stuff like drinking parties, meme clothes and reality tv.

It surprises me that people somehow assume that academic types are *at least* knowledgable about trivial information, when in truth they are less educated than your average construction worker.

You could have been the question asker. If everyone else is silent, that means more time for you to be annoying.

Americans view the Old World as one large University, with Kommisar governance to match, just as you've described it. Culture has Leisure as its foundation (it's literally in the Greek for "scholarship"): mass education is a contradiction of terms. We just see it more readily in low quality lumpenprole filled low security prisons of schools, and terminal TAs chasing Boomer tenurr track with chips on their shoulders.

Maybe if you studied something actually useful. I did Biomedical Science and people were constantly asking questions during classes and labs.

People take philosophy for the free credits lol

Any school outside the top few ranked is worse than prison in terms of quality of student

What surprises me is that most people who criticise liberal academia will at least concede that these people are somehow "intellectual" or "well educated", essentially reducing their criticism of them to Ivory Tower-ism and being generally non-pragmatic about politics.

There's a narrative of scientists as rational sages and seekers of knowledge. This is the story people outside of academia see it through. In truth, academia is filled with exact same kinds of narrative-driven NPCs as any other.

maybe things are different in Germany, but the lid has been blown off of the post-secondary loan scheme in the United States. Our schools abandoned intellectual integrity long ago; today it is a just vehicle to get loans into the hands of a newly emerged generation of suckers.

You completed a school course designed for cattle, and now you feel a bit cheated. That is natural, but do not bring laymen into this discussion; it serves no purpose.

They showed more interest in my gemology class, but I guess it helps if you have pretty minerals to look at. Still, you're right that even most of my classmates had a quick glance and then started yapping with one another

There's was a time where this might have been true, when learning Greek and Latin were mandatory and you needed a sponsor or wealthy family to even afford an education at an institute. But education in general has basically been turned into fast food because there's money to be made and everything is run by jews who are themselves some of the most anti-intellectual people in the planet and view objective truth as an inconvenience

I recently did a course to become a teaching assistant, they gave it to me for free because I'm old and left school with zero qualifications despite not being retarded, I'm literate and self educated in many subjects, all the other students were foids, nice enough but shallow. Anyway my tutor, leftist foid but high IQ told me to stop overthinking things and at one point told me I was an intellectual, I struggled with the homework because as far as I'm concerned it was all too ambiguous

what should you do if

type questions to which the answer was obvious to me

it depends

clearly this is not what they're looking for, I was gatekept out of the qualification and actually I'm glad, I can see the atmosphere in schools is toxic (not in the way they mean) and post Adolescence I wouldn't want to be part of the anti white male regime they're inflicting on boys and the rest of the woke nonsense on all the children. It's a shame because I felt I might have something to offer the kids who were going off the rails as I did when I was at school and apparently there's a demand for male TAs because the whole school system has become gynocentric and they don't know how to handle boys
We did some stuff on safeguarding and and they seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that all the kids have access to smartphones and inexhaustible supplies of pornography, retarded, I suppose I'll just have to carry on being unemployed

speaking of cameltoes wish she puller her skirt thing up higher damn get a look at that coochie please

University is a place that teaches you how to fill out grant applications successfully.
Or in the more "serious" areas, it teaches you that you are always right even when you are obviously wrong.

That is all.

ngl some of the smartest people I ever met were at university.
working people only talk about 3 things: pussy, sports and money.

I already noticed this when I did an Anthropology degree in the early 2000s.
On the first day of classes, multiple teachers would mention Mendel's inheritance experiments and theory, something you learn about in grade school or highschool, very easy to grasp.

Yet a bunch of girls would need the teachers to explain it in detail for them, and would need this done in every class. The same girls.
Never have I felt more betrayed than at that moment, after years being told how much I would enjoy college and how smart people there are. I was so looking forward to possibly finding a girl smarter than her boots to date. But what I got is an institution that promotes grade chasing while having no care for students understanding the material.

It's the same in STEM. In our year of about 250 people during the BSc, around 8 people were actually curious. Only these few were cut out to be scientists. The rest were there because the thought it was a more prestigious 9 to 5. It's not, You can't do descent research with that mentality. They eat up all the funding and achieve nothing.

attrition is the main function of real universities, it is a sorting machine

No it’s even worse, intellectualism is having an absolute heyday, but massive fucking retards are the intellectuals

Yes, that's why LAW is an actual degree and philosophy and the other GEISTESWISSENSCHAFTEN are memes.

Your kind are famous there though. The younglings laugh at you. And when you speak up they immediately check out or get excited over your next spergout.

It’s been dead for a very long time. Don’t despair too much. Philosophy is useless in an academic context any way

pseud makes seethe thread about how nobody will recognize how smart he is

This isn’t political you stupid fucking german nigger.

College is now a midwit activity, a degree is worth what a secondary school diploma would have gotten tou 30 years ago.

liberal arts majors at dying out here. everyone just wants to be a doctor or computer science. which sucks because its just turning into basically a training school for jobs instead of free thinking. none of these kids wanna try anything different, just do the same shit as everyone else

I did have people speak out during philosophy class here. but that was just christians disagreeing with anything against their book. and the teachers have to be gentle to not offend them

People never speak up about anything during lectures, zero curiosity, zero interest

because its all fake. everyone is being groomed to chase a future and wealth that will never arrive because tomorrow never comes and there will never be sweet relief except once you retire but at that point you don't have the energy to enjoy life and do shit. basically you are used by the system like a big fat dummy and then discarded once you have outlived your usefulness

yeah, that's all I got out of uni as well, just a tidy little shitballs maze to corral you into their mental enslavement, I got nothing of value from it except a chronic case of nihilism.

University can't be an institution of free thinking anymore. At least not on the "lower level". You can start freethinking when you have your first exam. But not as a student. Professors are more like teachers nowadays and have to teach your the stuff that is to be taught.
It's not even an authority thing. They just want to get through class in time, and that's understandable. Depending on the class there can be +100 people and more.

I've also had discussion with professors and they asked me to come to them after the session and I showed them the source from which my standpoint derived when I argued with them. But not all are like this. They can't start arguing with you all the time, they have a program. They also have to think of the other students and they primary duty of the university is to educate you as in transfer knowledge into your brain.

*their

no, *the
lol, whatever

leftists

ANd here you are.........still falling for this label bullshit.

You are just like them. A NPC. Just in a different color.

muh philosophy

idealist midwit spotted

I don't know what to tell you other than I'm hiding this thread because I'm pretty sure you're homosexual and spend all day on here

I can just give you a brief opinion since I know what you are talking about, and I have spent my time reading your posts:

it’s all the fault of Jewish nepotism.

You just have no idea how deep in your understanding of the system you can get by going down figuring out that. You can spend a life fighting Jewish nepotism and you’ll end up consuming your time by fighting against windmills.

This.
Chuds should not have blogs

Of course. Just because universities are bad, doesn't mean anywhere else is any better. People here think they are all some Good Will Hunting autodidact, but that is almost non-existent in reality

It literally has nothing to do with that.

As an independent student of philosophy, I have observed that much contemporary leftist thought tends to rely on rhetorical strategies that often involve logical fallacies. This may reflect a broader decline in systematic philosophy, as contemporary discourse increasingly embraces ambiguity, internal contradictions, and a lack of coherent foundational structures. The left is moronic because it’s built on those stupid ideas.

Academia is now a means to exploit social status. Nobody cares about philosophy because nobody with a philosophy degree is going to fuck shit up and end up killing someone because they didn't philosophize enough.

Lmao did you actually bother to make that dogwater meme

It has 100% to do with that. Since it has been more then 50 years since anything have happened in universities, nowadays being part of the good part of that tribe is 100% what makes you a career in there. Further, Israel is the country having invested in science proportionally the most of all Europe, they control the money and as such they control who is going to teach you as a student. You fag studied philosophy name a non Jew philosopher who wrote anything of note in the last 20 years

Nobody cares about philosophy because metaphysics is fart-huffing for wanks

You would be correct.
Western "philosophy" is largely just rhetorical arguments based solely to fulfill the desires of whoever is preaching them. Modern philosophy is just post-modernist brainwashing for the purpose of exploiting people out of something. They have largely turned into the sophists that Socrates was complaining about.

What sort of schizophrenic retardation is that comic

Credentialling doesn’t work for universities.

Before, you would be held responsible to family, ethical leaders, and opponents

Now, degree mills give the same credential for a job to sedate people.

At least fartherhuffing can get you high.

Thank you for the semantic argument, but the etymology of a word does not equal its meaning.
"Bureaucracy is a system of organization where laws or regulatory authority are implemented by civil servants or non-elected officials."
Colloquially it means that people who are not really qualified make important decision often the wrong way.
Beurocratisation in this context means that a system that was once not a beurocracy is becoming one.
They always could do that. We can make all sorts of horrors. But we don't or didn't or try not to because of laws and human decency. There have always been mistakes and bad people. But now for some retarded reason it has become socially acceptable to do this horrible thing. Trans surgery, abortion and lobotomies will go down as some of the greatest evils in human history.
There are too many people going into the filed who just don't belong there. Perhaps it's that everyone wants a diploma these days, perhaps it's people not understanding how hard it will be, perhaps it's a lack of curiosity... i don't actually know why the problem came about, nor do i know the solution. I just know something is really wrong. Genuine scientists are few and far between and get drowned out by the hoards of pople who don't have ann iota of curiosity or drive.
You could show them the face of god or the answer to immortality, and most people would still just dick around and browse reddit.
The problem is, these same kinds of disinterested people sit on the funding decision boards and head the research institutes...

Very nuanced point germanbro. I graduated from Politics and Cultural Studies with a specialization in theory for both. I graduated over a decade ago and I'm the only person I know from either program who still reads anything intellectual whatsoever. Not only that, I talk to new grads about basic theory, like Discourses Machiavelli or Benjamin/Baudrillard and people have no idea what I'm talking about. Sometimes dudebros will have a background in like Jordan Peterson or whatever and offer an oblique critic about Foucault and Critical Theory, but the second I say Panopticon, Repressive Hypothesis, or Limiting Dialectic, they're stumped. Then I laboriously explain it so they understand what I'm talking about, the agree it's neat, and when I tell them they disagreed with the theorist who made that shit up on a foundational level earlier in the conversation, they feel like I'm pulling a trick on them. Same with Gramscian Ameleoration. Same with easy shit like Sassure or Derida or whatever. And the people who do know? They know one inch of depth; they're still direction brained morons arguing about and for communism, unironically. Bitch, that's like 200 years ago in terms of thought, the frankfurt school literally killed more people than hitler on steroids, and they have the audacity to call people nazis unironically? Just bums me out.

Unfortunatly the problem runs deeper than just universities. It is in research institutes and even in industry to some extent.
That being said, i'd be interested to hear you elaborate what you mean by attrition here.

Because universities reconstructed their programs to be passable by women and niggers, the two most inherently anti-intellectual groups of people on the planet. Their version of intellect is exchanging tribal gossip. Their version of philosophy is whatever superstitions the previous generation passed along. Displaying curiosity actually damages their social status because being curious gets herd animals in trouble. You can't have an intellectual environment with groups of people who are more mentally stimulated by SHOES than they are by ideas and concepts.

agree. a lot of the dysfunction in academia is because of jewish nepotism and ideological capture. same with global finance, global media, and even empire (british imperialism was just a reflection of british political capture by jews)

history, politics, and almost all aspects of humanities have been ruined by jewish nepotism and their hatred of whitey -- which they infuse into all of their discourse.

What is even the point to be curious or interested if the metric is just how much Jew blood or the right part of the Jewish tribe runs in your veins?

You would be much better off out of academia where you can actually win an argument by reading and listening

philosophy has always been a foundation of western civilization and clear thinking.

I didn't study philosophy. That's a meme degree. I said it here.

i mean you can also throw them out of your institutions. Think of a bolshivik scenario where you burn their books and toss them out violently.

Jews are really good lawyers, but I doubt that those Jews give a flying fuck about intellectualism and academia

It’s their institutions at this point. I am the inteuder

Fellow philosopher fag here. Well OP, you are aware that there’s a reason why, the most interesting and profound philosophical ideas are gate kept? Most students of the subject do it for two reasons, either for the seminary or for law. Clearly you picked law, and even though you want to be engaged in the philosophical intellectual sphere, you still used the craft to become a lawyer. Not criticizing, but I’m sure you’re aware while you were in law school as well the advantages you had compared to your peers. Either way, philosophy has been dead since the 1900s. Ironically enough, the last philosopher worth a damned was Evola and Heidegger. From the analytical tradition, not much can be said, asides from Searle and Chalmers. Even then, nothing exciting is happening in the field, even Chomsky with all his hype focused more on linguistic than philosophical thought in general. Don’t get discouraged and if you feel you want to contribute to the conversation, then use your skills to do more outside of law. I currently work in the tech field and surprisingly enough, my “useless” degree has helped me to stay employed compared to my STEM peers. Asides from being a cert lord and knowing how ML works, I’m now taking MBA courses and focusing on redpilling normies on automation, the 4th Industrial Revolution and AI. Make a sub stack, volunteer at your local community college or high school humanities department. Be the change you want to see anon. For instance, what are you reading or researching right now? Asides from law, what philosophical traditions would you consider yourself versed in?

Law degrees are a joke as well, I've encountered various attorneys during my practice that make me question their ability to do basic cognitive tasks, nonetheless their fitness for practice.

That’s a man

Anon the point of the university and public education especially is to churn out unquestioning consumers who work and obey. That is the final goal, period. If you are lucky enough to have a critical mind and have some capacity to think for yourself, you are discouraged from speaking up in a classroom setting, because any real contention is scary for the so called academics in positions of authority. What I’m getting at is the cancel culture that permeates the student body at most universities - any discussion about trans rights for example must be leaning in favor of trans rights always. You simply cannot say “trans rights is bullshit because trannys are mentally ill” or you will be ostracized and labeled a nazi by the mob that has been engulfed by mass formation psychosis. You cannot challenge the zeitgeist because critical thought is not beneficial to the power elite, who control the academics (yes the academics are stupid largely but their handlers are more intelligent and so the academics serve them well). Any and all critical thought is therefore labeled as “fringe white conservatism” or “racism” - you get the idea, to prevent the dam from breaking and people waking up. In the same way, zionists hide behind the shield of “antisemitism” to prevent any criticism of their doings, it acts as a shield of sorts, especially effective when people bring up the genocide in Gaza, they simply cry “you’re an anti-Semite!” and their ruse continues to work. So do the academics who cry “racist! Sexist! Transphobe!” when you challenge their blatant stupidity in the classroom. Again, they want to turn out as many unquestioning and valid consumers as possible. Take note that most academics will praise radical left terrorism though when it comes to controversial topics. In one breathe, they’ll advocate for gun rights to be taken away all the while justifying a trans person shooting up a church or school.

jews were in ghettos in russia and burned the imperial palace, murdered the royal family, burned thousands of churches and turned the few that were left into stables for horses and nightclubs, mass raped the women, and then installed an intentionally economically backwards extractivist economy.

then when they had enough they did "reforms" at the end of the 80s, installed democracy, put a drunk idiot in charge, looted the country again (creating a cabal of oligarchs -- which they call russian) -- and mass trafficked the wome to israel as sex slaves, or put them in demeaning pornography (think the young throats pornographic series)

Spungen ze leaken

Contemporary Western society, in many respects, exhibits a level of barbarism in intellect and morality that arguably surpasses that of the era in which Aristotle composed the Organon. There are scarcely any true philosophers today; instead, we are surrounded by sophists—rhetoricians who prioritize persuasion over truth. I find myself increasingly nostalgic for thinkers like Kant, Hegel, and Spinoza, who sought to construct coherent systems grounded in reason, methodological rigor.

way too many words bruh but shawty built 4 u know wat

yep.

Yes, because american law and judiciary practice is a meme too.

anyone with an actual brain in university is there for STEM. inb4 shitposting about AI taking STEM jobs the fact still remains. liberal arts degrees are for retarded golems.

coherent systems grounded in reason, methodological rigor.

It's all irrelevant metaphysical nonsense

its total jewish ideological capture. remember that rabbinic judaism is not open minded and philosophical in search of truth. its about submission to jewish elites and jewish legal norms in their text. there is nothing in jewish culture that makes them good scientists because the orientation of their culture only to submission to higher jewish authorities.

thats why jewish ideological capture of academia means that almost all discourse gets rerouted into hating whitey, the global north, white supremacy, colonialism (defined as white man bad), etc.

this is because the central theme of judaism is hating "edom" -- which they interpret as the west. so you put them in colleges and they spin their religious hatred in the west into constant drivel against the white man.

why doesn't juden peternose sound smart any more

intellectualism is dead

Care to elaborate?

I once enjoyed intellectual pursuits but I came to relies it’s all a distraction away from what’s really important
Pussy
so now I just think about pussy all day and how it relates fundamentally to everything

actually curious

Only these few were cut out to be scientists

rest were there because the thought it was a more prestigious 9 to 5

This is an enculturation problem of the establishment system itself
Snake eating its own tail.
See also post-structuralism, Baudrillard for observation of this overall characteristic and phenomenon: abstraction and semiotics, the image as premier over actual substance of reality (and everyday physical life)..

As the OP states

want to be considered of high social status

This is really the sole reason liberal arts universities still exist. STEM programs themselves have become diseased and rotted with this phenomenon as well.
The institution exists to feed itself and perpetuate, not to perform a function. Itself a cancer.
Add in the post-1970s Financialization of the global economy, stagnant economic+wage growth overall based solely on increased Debt, lack of real technological innovation (e.g. the world's biggest "industry" bing named "tech" when its reality is far from that: solely about creating more infrastructure and entrenchment, maintenance of digitized panopticon status quo; and the other biggest "industry" is pharmaceuticals, more un-needed semiotic trash) or capital expenditure/reinvestment by most corporations except to pursue artificial growth of their own stock values etc. and this phenomenon accelerates and fuels itself in civilization broadly. Entirety of western culture particularly in the past four decades is suffused with this.

Robust inquiry and debate is what propels academia to excellence, discovery, and to output motivated pupils and skilled personnel that are capable of advancing civilization itself and performing, producing and achieving for and within that.

comatose

Parlor awareness of popular culture and social media feeds, is not knowledge: what the world's great universities were formerly prioritized for.
Now it's all about those institutions' own bureacratic inertia.

Because philosophy is the practice of over complication for its own sake
You exist because you exist
The meaning of life is to be alive
Suffering is existence
Shrimple as

philosophy was about logic historically and was fundamental to understanding how to think clearly. western academia has just across all domains totally gone off the rails

We live in the real world and holistic materialism is the only relevant form of philosophy. Any philosopher who disagrees can be easily refuted by being threatened with a hammer.

That is philosophy you dumbass; you're like a retarded lao tzu.

Human beings operate under the notion that time spent guarantees skill. It does not. That is the largest, most egregious fallacy behind academia. You can easily go to school for 12 years and learn nothing. The only thing that is guaranteed is that if you are a product of the system AND willing to speak out, then you THINK you've become educated. You can be dead wrong.

So college is not a place of learning as much as it is a place of convincing the people who pay to go that they deserve to be called an expert in their field.

Sometimes the result is a humble, self deprecating scientist who contributes massively to a complex field, slightly furthering the interests of humanity.

Most of the time, a person with horrible insecurity paid enough fees and memorized enough answers to graduate so that they could have enough confidence to gloat.

Some people even make a career of gloating, like Neil DeGrasse-Tyson or Michio Kaku.

does anyone else wish we can bring sanity back to academia? is it possible without pogroms?

the state of university and the fact i couldnt get any pussy there made me resign for life. thanks for paying taxes, i wont. neet forever, peace

Philosophy is is unspiritual spiritualism
It is shamanism of the mundane
I ask you what is the goal of philosophy?
You say it is to think clearly but not simply
Pussy is the only prize
Diogenes understood this and it broke him

the state of university and the fact i couldnt get any pussy there made me resign for life.

What major?

In America university is a for profit kindergarten.

I require more information. I broadly agree with you, dualism is gnostic hogwash, and pragmatism of ethical schema is paramount, but before I type up an elaborate reply, I have a few questions. Do you believe in determinism? What about objective truth? Finally, what guides "progress" for you, if it's even important?

what race are you?

dumbass

ad hominem
Also you are simple a a featherless biped
Pussy is the only philosophy
I came to know this through my research
This angers and confuses the philosophoid

So, I used to study philosophy at university. Finished that degree, did a more "serious" degree (Law, lol) afterwards.

put the fries in the bag lil bro

At every university now, the administration is a stupid tyrant, and the professoriate has no clothes. Only a small number of real people are going to be willing to remain students for long in such environments. Much as conservatives are pushed out of academia and other institutions, after which fact Leftists look around and misinterpet the situation as "conservatives are dumb/bad."

Probably computersciences which is 80-90% males, at least in the past.

Celto- Germanic

If pussy is the only philsophy
surely you're an expert
because you reason like a woman
and act like a vagina.

Joke's on you; in 5 years he'll be assistant manager.

Do you believe in determinism

I believe the universe is materially determined and bound by its own physical properties and all human thought being the product of chemical and electrical processes within a physical entity falls within this material and is merely a complex arrangement of it and not seperate from or above it. Marx and Engels were right. I believe the question of "objective truth" is itself idealist and irrelevant, unknowable.

Finally, what guides "progress" for you, if it's even important?

The compounding nature of technology and information accumulation by recordkeeping. Every generation can build on the technological and scientific knowledge of the past and not have to start over from scratch.

AI will actually speed things up in my opinion.

You are angry because beep down you know what I say is true
Pussy=existence

Universities are just another business, they need asses on seats.
Since the 2000s in this cuntry, the gubmint’s target was to get 50% of all young people to attend university. So, you will end up meeting the average retard in there, literally.

I agree. It's not going away and the people who make conjecture about its future applications based on its early limitations are fools

People never speak up about anything during lectures

because if you disagree with the teacher you fail the class.

those academic articles i screen shotted above took about 5 seconds to produce using AI. its insane.

excellent bread, OP

that pic

Somebody got paid to write that. Insanity.

Pussy expert

I am something of an amateur gynecologist yes

Liberals are braindead people if you can call them people at all. You as a german should be ashamed of yourself.

modern symbolic logic was invented in the 20th century

I was hoping you were well read and making a joke; unfortunately you're serious. Agency is paramount to human experience and social construction, as well as an essential component of ethics. Sure, the choices are limited, but you still have a choice in the process beyond your biological and chemical determinates at a subjective level; the compounding experiences may dictate a course of action, but it is impossible to predict it with granularity and consistency at any functional level. Not only that, but there are always a spectrum of better and worse choices relative to the criteria being graded. At a fundamental level there is an inuitive and intersubjective shared truth among mosytmetacognative subjects that is both sufficient for a coherent schema of judgement, as well as fundamentally essential for group dynamics, that is neither biological nor chemical. It's the process of sharing information between minds that is collaberative, as well as not necessarily located in the components of any single subject. This inherently undermines the concept of a material only universe.

But that's all the depth you're getting, I dont really feel like typing an essay. You're just in a formative stage of growth based on your progress through philosophy. Eventually you'll get to an iterative and adaptive pragmatism that continually evolves and is infinitely scalable, but that requires more rigor and growth.

Have you ever read Oswald Spengler’s book? He discusses at length this exact topic. I agree with you completely fwiw. I was a lecturer, joined staff/admin, where I currently work. Academia is an exercise in pseudo-intellectualism.

A lot of the AI skepticism comes from people who don't even know how to use it properly. These are the same people who are still scrolling through fifty pages of Google ads when a DeepSeek prompt can compile and format everything you need in seconds. I think the greatest application of AI within our lifetimes will be in diagnostics and market cybernetics solving the price signalling issue of a socialist mode of production. Cybersyn is coming back and neoliberal economic rhetoric will become obsolete.

Why would I be mad?
I dont know where I'm going,
I dont desire any outcome,
I dont try to manifest change;
I simply walk
one step at a time
while you grasp answers
like sand
that sifts through your fingers
and ends up in your vagina.

i cant make sense of your vision for price signalling. i'm skeptical of any talk around "neoliberal economics" because that's a word that fascinates latin american intellectuals.

Administration is always throughly retarded while maybe 1% of the professoriate and 1% of the professional staff (people like analysts and advisors) are competent. Those people usually don’t last long unless they get a really comfy job.

Fortunately, every university is currently entering profound crisis and will be forced to reform or gradually wither away. Many will close their doors permanently in the next few decades.

Everything worth saying has already been said, so the only thing left for modern philosophers to do is to say outrageous things for shock value.

lots of colleges in anglo america are just fronts for immigration scams. so you have on the one side jewish nepotism spreading nonsense theories and fake students propping up universities as a way to get citizenship and you get a vaste educational architecture of total worthless bs.

disagree. your academia in the UK is totally lost and full of nonsense. you guys need clear thinking more than ever.

the fact that even educated brits can be influenced by such nonsense as "you are a right sider of the wing war" is because of a profound lack of clear thinking

Basically animals avoid niggers and hang out with white people
This is true but the study never asks why

Uh huh and all of this wank still has no more than a material foundation. Your thoughts are arrangements of material reacting to material senses interpreting a material world. You are determined and bound by the material and all of your "choices" were parametrically limited by from the beginning. Language does not refute this. Feel free to prove otherwise by communicating your response via immaterial media.

Everything else you wrote is wank

Demanding university degrees for entry-level jobs might not be the worst thing boomers ever did, but it's certainly in the top 5.

it said because the global south status loss because of imf debt and extractivist colonial capitalism. thus birds no longer respect black and brown people.

You should still definitely try your hand at something fella you definitely have an intellectual spark and independence that our state school system didn’t manage to extinguish. What about adult education or young offenders?

It’s not even close to as bad as it is in country’s like Canada and Australia. A big immigrant population at an American university might be like 20% of the student body, which is a lot but nothing compared to the 60% you see at Canadian unis. In America, they form a much larger percentage of graduate students but that’s because they’re willing to work as research assistants for $9/hr. And in my experience, only the faculty are immigrants. Administrators which now dwarf faculty in numbers are almost never immigrants.

Archive: upload the wochenschau videos in the order they were shown you autistic faggot.

Universities have been NPC indoctrination grounds for decades now. In the past it truly was reserved only for the intellectually gifted which is no longer the case

You must have had an impressive amount of money to get 2 degrees in this climate. You won't see intelligent people do that. Which is why you won't see intelligent people in college.

Most people think college niggers are intelligent. I dont. Why did they go? That's a stupid move. Even for you, OP. Why did you go? Too much extra money? Who are you?

What did you expect? College is all but mandatory in the West so it's become highschool 2. And highschool in the USA has become such a laugh ever since graduating it was made mandatory.

I have to do this

have to take this classes

have to make good grades

that's all

Going through high school is twelve years of fucking 7-hour a day education, and for what? You learn graphs? You can read "Lord of the Flies" on an uncritical level?
Any vaguely intelligent child looks at this and knows it's the most trivial time wasting shit imaginable. They become depressed, anti-intellectual, and play fucking video games. The dumb people though love how easy it is to get credentials with a bit of cheating, so they thrive, that's who you're dealing with.

I'm not an expert on market cybernetics but I've read some interesting shit about it and it seems like it was always computing power and networking efficiency that was the only limitation. There's quite a bit of information online of you feel like reading about it

being able to influence your culture and civilization through key positions in universities is probably a high iq move...

STEM

Lol. Those people are there because they heard it was a way to get a good job. They don’t give two flying figs about the actual intellectual aspects of their field, and those who do stay quiet so they don’t have to be leaned on by idiots who need help every step of the way for a quick pass on their assignments.
Your beef isn’t even with liberals, it’s against the construct that everyone needs a degree in some esoteric and narrow field to get a job at all.

15 posts

Man, I'm not gonna read them, but this was a super dumb post... you think liberal pussy camp can be "infiltrated", kek. You'll stick out like you're made of SOLID GOLD. They'll know, nigger.

stupifingly

Lord of the Rings is not leftist. Some leftists even accuse Tolkien of being a fascist because of it.

do you know how fucking easy it is to get a phd in America

learn major European language like French or German

read books in French or German

write some "literary criticism"

boom PhD in German

Imagine eating fucking burgers and reviewing Wendys or watching Game of Thrones and you get a PhD in American, then you can be a department leader at a university

Why would I be mad

Because you spend your time pondering bull shit while pussy is being pounded
Philosophy is institutionalized autism
Have sex

Philosophy is institutionalized autism

Have sex

based

college is transformed into civic/professional indoc

civics and professions become laptop class social games and performative virtue

college becomes indoctrination into doing laptop class social games and performances

It’s not a mystery how this works. The real fuck ups of the liberal regime though are making college not only mandatory but absolutely devoid of a classical education. They couldn’t allow the latter for the same reason they can’t just allow people to have their bread and circus video games without trannies and feminism and stuff. When we win, we should fix the universities just like we’ll fix the games. They’re an important part of Western culture. Rebuild the churches, reform the universities. That’s the goal.

It's all irrelevant metaphysical nonsense

What are you talking about. I refer to logic, methodology.

Damn, if Australia had no semester count I'd sign up for one course each semester and just learn.

My university experience was the only planned social events had to involve consumption of large amounts of alcohol. Even spectator sports where many drink plenty was frowned upon as the game got in the way of the drinking. Lunch time and other breaks consisted mostly of rehash of previous night sitcoms, gossip of profsother students, with any attempts to expand on classintellectual material shot down with sarcasm.

If only you knew how it actually works. PhD candidates don’t get to just write whatever they want. They work on the faculty’s interests. And it’s pretty much a given that you will not receive your PhD until you’ve put in about 5 years. These people jump through hoops actually. The degrees are worthless but they go through the wringer for them.

My point was because it was preconceived they asked the question to plug some DEI bull shit not because they really want to know why animals avoid niggers and feel more comfortable around white people

They have to shake you down long enough to expose potential right wing sentiment and stamp it out. People come out of college gayer. And if they don't come out gayer, they get isolated and ostracized

You didnt read what I said and dismissed it out of hand, which is why I didnt write an essay. Tell me, where is the shared intersubjective knowledge located? Hint: read what intersubjective means before you start going on about synapses and amgidala.

I dont think at all.
I dont have sex.
I fuck
and to fuck means
I know power,
power to and power from;
power to fuck
and the power to prevent
being fucked.
It also means
that I fuck
often and thoroughly.

Let them scribe

Philosophy bores me

Thats pretty much what I remember and that was years ago. Intellectualism has been dead for some time.

It gets worse. The universities are rife with fraud. Not just cheating for grades, but cheating for funding. If your study disproves your own hypothesis that's normal, but if you find a new trend then that's sensational. So people "hack" data constantly to try and make shit up. This doesn't fly when you have to rely on the information like engineering. But for health and psychology, absolutely, consider anything you read there to be false unless proven otherwise. "Peer review" means "it looks okay to me at the first glance."
But who's downstream of colleges? Research facilities. Go fucking wonder when you have the nonsense mystery-disease cash-cow corona virus when the 98% of seasonal flu cases disappear. And where medicine and psychology intersect? Literally everything is a disease now and the best way to treat it is to sell you drugs. Shit life? Bipolar/ADHD and you get meth or sedatives or opium or whatever you want.

midwit
you have truly ascended, anon. There is a clear bell curve on display for all to see, which brings me back to my first and most important question:

Any more pictures of the girl in OP?

I fuck

often and thoroughly

Bingo your now a philosopher

Yeah the main skills involved are checking emails, filling out forms, writing applications. I'm on the starter end of it right now.

the form I gave you was wrong you need to do it again but on this form A S A P thank you

be me

top bucket of class

varsity letterman athlete

minor success in art and letters

get into a good not great university to university because white male

want to study politics

“WTF is political science? Politics is not a science.”

it’s all math and Democrat propaganda

“Well, this is a waste of time.”

switch to economics because maybe I can approach politics through libertarian economics

it’s actually all math and Keynesian propaganda

“Whatever. No reason to try.”

decide to take classics, philosophy, and literature classes to have some interesting classes and care about school

it’s all anti-white, anti-male bullshit taught by retarded weirdos

give up on school completely

spend 6 years drinking myself stupid and chasing pussy

finally graduate with zero effort, bad grades, never learned a thing

get into graduate school anyway

have made 6 figures since I finished

The whole thing is a joke honestly. If you go, you should just do what I did and not give a shit. If you can’t study something that interests you, just do the bare minimum or adopt a mercenary mentality. I see way too many young guys caring way too much about college. Just stop caring.

You’ve never spent a single day in grad school bro. Just refrain from commenting

birds don't hang out around niggers cause of racism...

Am I reading this right?

where is the shared intersubjective knowledge located

In the material arrangements of the brain, communicated via material medium. You're reducing complex but tangible physical phenomena to metaphysical ether still dependent on a material comprehension and wondering why it doesn't cohere with reality. This should tell you that you're using the wrong framework. Have you ever been hit with a hammer?

Even in private, the students were pronounced anti-intellectuals? Want to discuss film? All they've seen is muh Lord of the Rings and muh Star Wars. Want to discuss music? They don't know anything besides radio pop and some generic 80s shit. Want to discuss literature? Thex haven't read any nonfiction whatsoever (besides Lord of the fucking Rings, maybe). Want to discuss history? Religion? Politics? Nah, they don't have more than surface level knowledge of this, because why would they.

That's because it's all you can discuss. Unless you sit down with and watch a series with someone else. it's almost impossible to discuss most artworks with peolpe. People now think that books, games and movies are for consumption only and would never think of discussing them, unless it's already okay like with super popular stuff like Star Wars. Also, fuck you, you peice of shit, for not understanding the sheer depth of Star Wars. Exclude Disney shit and it's lame EU, and only considering the pre 2007 lore, it was brilliant and deep lore and was fairly widely discussable. I try to discuss other things like Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Planescape Torment, Berserk, Thief, Dues Ex etc and not enough people have played them. It's either you are locked to Anon Babble or Anon Babble for the few other people who even have seen/played these series or you just never discuss them. At least with Band of Brothers it's semi popular and you can get a youtube discussion going and maybe an IRL discussion here and there. But seriously, Star Wars and LOTR are just seen by everyone. They aren't shit mate, they are fucking awesome, it's just they are the only ones that got the audience size that you can discuss with anyone. My god, I would love to go on and on about LOTGH just as much as Star Wars but fucking no one has seen it.

Anyways fuck you for trying to denigrate Star Wars and consider it low brow you little cuck. Disney has done enough damage already to the brand. Fuck off.

I was never a philosopher,
I am a man.
The more you read,
the more you know,
and the more you learn
but as you become filled
with desire
the less you can fit
and all the reading
comes without knowing,
and all the knowing
comes without learning,
and all the learning
comes without being.
I do not read,
I am,
and I know nothing
but can learn anything
then discard it
into nothing
again and again;
until seeds scrape the sky
and moutains revolt,
and man stays the same.

I'm going to be a soldier, ladies like men who fight for them

Literally young me.

The reality is that most people shouldn't be in higher education. What you're describing is what I saw 10 years ago. I'm sure it's gotten worse, but college has been polluted by opportunists for a while. On one hand, it's depressing, but on the other hand it's easy to rise to the top.

Non-fiction lore has this bonus where more people know about it

makes a statement of fact

needs to use logical reasoning to determine its factual nature

statement of fact is about reliability of logical reasoning itself

“I know that logical reasoning arises from physical phenomena because logical reasoning arises from physical phenomena”

retarded materialist doesn’t realize this is circular

You went to college alright

People wouldn't know basic information that was discussed twenty seconds ago, were unaware of general context (Who is Socrates???) and their manner of speech would be either on the level of a poorly educated elementary schooler or performatively pseudointellectual, like something from a Monty Python sketch.

12:53
youtu.be/2cGnzUfgfsc?t=773

Philosophy would be really fun if you got to develop your own paradigms and stuff with your classmates, but it’s just memorizing what other dudes said and taking test and writing research papers on that. Really takes the fun out of it

Liberal Arts is a training ground for indoctrinated automatons, no doubt, but STEM isn't full of angels. Plenty of researchers out there are willing to prostitute themselves to the highest bidder. Didn't we all just witness medical science beclowning itself for 5 years straight?

Try meeting a construction worker cunt. They are dumb as your average intellectual.

Move the bricks there cunt!

Where?

Fucking there

You aren't pointing or even looking at anything, fucking where

AAAAARRRH FUCK OFF AND JUST DO IT CUNT

Just go put bricks near the house

YOU FUCKING INCOMPETENT SHITHEAD I SAID RIGHT FUCKING THERE

AND I ASKED YOU TO POINT AT THE FUCKING POSITION YOU WANTED YOU FUCKING PRICK FOREMAN NIGGER AND YOU WOULN'T EVEN POINT

That's your average tradie intelligence level. Walking right into easily avoidable problems.

Damn and it took you years to reach this conclusion???
What exactly did you expect to happen when every retard is allowed to get a degree nowadays.

Holy shit fuck off.

Muh deep star wars

Muh video games

Let's discuss

LET'S DISCUSS YOU FUCKING OFF.

but it’s just memorizing what other dudes said and taking test and writing research papers on that. Really takes the fun out of it

Yeah that's the irony I find most amusing about people who study philosophy at university, it's completely dogmatic and the antithesis to what philosophy is, Plato & the greeks would beat the shit out of modern philosophy professor, in a literal sense.

You are slapping a reductionist answer on it that you know is wrong to justify your opinion. You said the answer; it exists between brains in a medium. It isnt either brain or the medium, it requires all parts simultaneously; therefore it's not just the materials, but the mediation and relationship between them, which is inherently metaphysical.

In a society that forces you into higher education at the threat of being left as a broke McDonald's slave, it's no surprise that the vast majority of people attending don't actually care about the subject. They're attending to receive a piece of paper that certifies them as a good goy so they can get a better goyjob, because we're all serfs. It's not "really" voluntary.

synaptic misfirings translated to 1s and 0s is his argument

Ebin takedown. A hammer is my actual argument.

it exists between brains

It doesn't exist at all.

I know a lot about history too. But the problem with non fiction lore is kikes control the narrative. And you just keep running into their narrative boundaries and then you can't discuss anymore because people get butthurt. Unless you are only going to look into safe history, which most people find boring.

Trust me, I am the type to read wikipedia history articles for hours out of pure bordom, and end up with a million tabs open that range the broudest possible subject spectrum. There are fuckall people to discuss it with.

I'm gonna say it again. It's literally a deep artistic worked created by a genius White visionary auteur. Seethe.

Well then its stagnant, its supposed to help people develop into innovators to bridge gaps and push understanding forward, theres only so far you can do this without covering ground thats already been trodden, I think given another hundred years or so at least philosophy would have reached the end of the road in axioms and will be sitting on its arse waiting for science to forge forward, Its the opposite of how it started, Isnt that quite poetic?

But it does. You just said it did; it's how you know you're being called a faggot. I'm calling you a faggot, you understand that I am, we're both able to interpret that through the medium of Anon Babble. Maybe you should stop being a charlatan and actually read the books you're dismissing.

That's what you get for poisoning academia with hordes of people just doing it for a job.

It's retarded that any non scientific job requires scientific schooling, basically just an excuse for incompetent companies not to admit they have no grip on the skills and knowbow they require to survive whatsoever.

In short it's unsurprising most even there are uninterested.

it makes a hilarious joke that everything has to be discovered twice. once by white people, then again by jews and their slaves, redefining entirely new terms so they have less pagan sounding names. because that aint kosher, jew needs kosher.

And the logic you used to make this statement just emerges from synapses right?

Sincerely, are you retarded?

Intellectualism is fucking dead

And it was killed by liberalism, feminism and Marxism.

Universities were supposed to be forums for intelligent older men to pass down their knowledge to younger men.

That environment can't be sustained in feminised and democratised modernity.

It's the same in STEM.

You should see what happened to private art schools & academies...

STEM is worse. In my experience, 99% of philosophy, economics, liberal arts students are unthinking automatons but 1% aren’t whereas 100% of STEM students only know their STEM field. They don’t know anything else. They don’t read, don’t know logic, nothing about history or art, worse, they often reject the very things that form the foundation of their fields. You’re likely to hear a physicist reject philosophy, for example, which is hilarious because without philosophy there is no physics.

No it doesn't, and I didn't. It is not a thing, it is something you say exists because it's easier for your brain to work with than comprehending the totality of the physical world processes involved in communication and thought, this is because your brain itself is limited in fidelity by its own material.

Again, prove me wrong by communicating this via something other than material medium. You can't.

Yes mutt
Everything that happens in the brain is a physical process. Electrochemistry. It's a wet computer and nothing more.

Where is the free thought at any level? Peer review is a politburo that prevents any wrongthink getting published.

and their manner of speech would be either on the level of a poorly educated elementary schooler or performatively pseudointellectual

thats what happens when you give 50% of your 80million population access to university.

and the best part about it:
My retarded country lets each and every one of you morons study over here, in our tiny little shithole of a country.
meanwhile, we have to bend over backwards if we want to attend uni.

AI takeover now!

In the material arrangements of the brain, communicated via material medium

Whoops, seems like you did say that, exactly what I said, and now you're trying to save face with a tautology rather than learning from what is being said. Once more, clearly this time, it is not in any individual material component, but the relationship between brains and the material medium. While all are material, the intersubjective knowledge is not. Saying we're subjective beings that are mediating a material world through our material meat has nothing to do with the fact that I called you a faggot on Anon Babble, you read it, understood what I meant, and anyone reading our exchange would understand it as well. That information is only known in the relationships between material and subjects; something metaphysical you door knob.

I wake up and get assaulted by jewish propaganda from every angle. I turn off radio etc, I put on The Meditations and just let it wash over me. Only people worth listening to are all dead. Fuck this zog gay earth.

Based dirty bum Socrates trolling people so hard they would pay him in food and a place to nap. Behold! Featherless Biped / IM WALKING ON AIRE

Right. So your physical processes are what allow you understand that it’s all just physical processes and you know that because of the physical processes?

Are you getting it now? This is called circular reasoning you imbecile.

that was Diogenes moron

I understand the frustration, however, in my experience (which is very similar), it’s best if most of the people in your classes never spoke up.

Why?

Because when they did, it was typically some variation of “Why should we be reading or taking seriously the things that dead, heterosexual white males wrote?”

Honestly felt bad that the professors even had to spend any amount of energy on entertaining these questions.

You could see the disgust in their body language. This is the bed that they made, though.

So sleep!

Techno interests me

neuroelectrochemical processes reacting to pixels, compelling fingers to push keys, sending electrical information across the internet to my screen, appearing as pixels and compelling a physical reaction in my own brain

anon thinks this is magic

Liberal Academia is not only supremely anti-intellectual, it's down right comatose.

This. It's all phony because they have no respect for the system. That's why they want lazy niggers and poor people who don't give a fuck in the system.

the immaterial world exists

Prove it without depending on the material

Yes, this dynamic is dead. It died last century or the century before. The people who can claim an intellectual legacy of the great thinkers are random twitter anons. Normies in college just get drunk and pass grades.

I just did with simple logical reasoning dumbass. The proof is implied in my argument. A strictly material world is logically impossible.

That's odd, I asked you to prove the validity of the immaterial by communicating via the immaterial but all you did was fire off some synapses and mash on the keyboard. It seems you lost.

thats not the proof I asked for

Embarrassing L. Hold it

still typing away

Not only are you too stupid to understand what is being said, but you're too stupid to realize I initially agreed with you, but wanted to assess your power level. Turns out it's low and you want to spit pithy one liners. I called dualism gnostic hogwash. I specifically said my philosophy is pragmatic, iterative, and adaptive. Nonpragmatic Idealism is something I refute so hard it becomes idealistic.

The relationship is none of that. Sure, that might happen, but the RELATIONSHIP between me calling you a faggot, you reading it through Anon Babble, and both of us coming to a consensus about meaning is fundamentally not material. Causal? Sure. Deterministic? Maybe, if you could articulate yourself better. Material? Absolutely not. The objects in isolation produce something when combined that is both unique to that circumstance, and intrinsically immaterial; you cant touch or hold a relationship. You can describe it, you can use it practically, you can even describe the process of the experience and the results; it's still metaphysical.

Christ almighty, why are you being dumb in the thread for smart people? None of this is controversial, just incongruent with your personal philosophy because you dont know that much.

I'm sorry but you're just not wanking on my level, maybe you should wank more and I'll approve of you

lmao nobody asked
You're seething because I'm right. Your brain is material, your thoughts are material, you communicate them via the material. This is not some other imaginary third concept. You want nothing more than to prove me wrong and realized that it's impossible to even begin. You lost.

Well thats because everything has some modicum of control through a semi conscious processing of material stimuli. Plants etc comes to mind.

That’s not true at all my bong friend (assuming you’re a bong and not a filthy jeet) I believe that Chalmers work on panpsychism and the slow merge between quantum physics and philosophy at a deeper level is there. The problem is that there isn’t philosophers that fully understand these concepts and there isn’t many physicists that aren’t afraid to admit they’re wrong or expand their ideas. It’s actually an exciting time, either it’s all a fraud and we expose Einstein for the quack he was or we find the path to a theory of everything. That’s at least, what I’ve discovered and propose in my field of study.

who funds you?

No one really, I just decided to abandon leisurely hobbies and dedicate my free time to research and writing

where are you getting published

I have a sub stack I am working on that haven’t released publicly either, sometimes I’ll shit post here to drop stuff or Anon Babble, rarely sci or the humanities board. Those forums are filled with midwits, surprisingly enough, pol still has intelligent non pretentious people.

who challenges you?

Anyone and everyone. I live in a giant east coast urbanite city. Close to a few ivy leagues schools and through my job in tech I’ve met some good networks. Every once in a while I’ll have dinner/drinks with these people and sit down and talk about ideas, new technologies or strategies. Of course, I don’t show my true power level whatsoever but I still engage with these people academically

Needless to say, I am open with them on sharing ideas and exploring stuff on the darkest parts of the web. The best thing about it is that, they’re all white except for one black and Latino. Everyone else is white or non Jewish. They have invited other “academic professionals” to these discussions and 9/10 the jeets and Asians decline, the Jews will show up and then leave after the third dinner or so once they figure out there’s no money to be made

Right now their synapses are firing like crazy in a effort to determine the right sequence of keys to push to prove communication is above the material. Hilarious.

It's short and succinct
Socrates never accepted payment and he though it was very important to do so.

you’re wrong because I presuppose my position (that contains a logical contradiction)

Lmao ok idiot whatever you say

"intellectual" just means the ability to follow orders without asking questions. they might have a degree, but they're never going to innovate. they completely lack the ability because that's not what college teaches you.

"academia" was basically chainsawed to death by the behavior of "educated proffessionals" during covid

covid showed that the 'academics' were sociopathic narcissists who believed, with conviction, they were "better" than the rest of the world, and as a result had some kind of self-imposed dominion over our lives

nothing will ever fix that

thoughts are separate from the material world

"Prove it"

synapses fire up, starts typing again

lmao

Which uni? If you didnt go to the best LMU then you simply took some hobby philosophy courses that werent serious to begin with.

Im serious btw. I studied Philosophy BA and MA as well.

I think you’re missing my point. My point is rather than in order say any true things at all (such as the statement “it’s all just material processes”) you need to have the logical reasoning necessary to know it is true, but if that statement (it’s all just material processes” was true, that would mean you used material processes to tell you that it’s all just material processes. In philosophy we call this circular reasoning. It’s basically a logical fallacy and fails to actually justify the knowledge claim. In other words, if the statement is true, you can’t actually know it is true, and therefore the statement strictly speaking cannot be true. This is why materialism is fundamentally retarded. It depends on the unchallenged and unjustified presupposition that materialism is true to prove that materialism is true. You see this illustrated perfectly in the reply the Canadian just gave to my other reply. He literally just assumed his position.

Do you not really understand that your second greentext is precisely what is in question? You’re saying it as if it’s a statement of fact but how do you know that? I can’t tell if you’re trolling.

This is a not a white Canadian. This is a white Canadian of decent stock.

Dawg, anyone who is serious about philosophy has already finished reading all about it by the time they ever set foot in a college classroom.

Do they even still teach logic in German philosophy curricula? It seems to me that if you don’t spend some time studying logic deeply than any philosophy program would be a waste of time.

That's a man

Not in 2025. Even smart people don’t take a keen interest in these things until their 20s at the earliest. The people who are high school prodegies are pseuds. Our culture so dumbed down that only Rick and Morty types excel in high school. Think about what passes for exceptional in this retard world. If you even get into a top bucket university you should be worried that you’re a pseud. We only elevate and celebrate retard shit.

Don’t bother arguing with the jeet my fellow American. This retard doesn’t understand that the entire field of Aesthetics and art in particular completely refutes the material mind argument. Even from a pragmatic perspective, art and creativity is what makes the human experience more than just biochemical reactions and properties. It’s clear that this leaf cannot thing beyond physical spatiotemporal data and cannot understand abstract concepts such as the feeling you get when you listen to a heavy angry hardcore song, or when you hold hands with a beautiful woman or the feeling of watching a sunrise along the coast. He is a retard. Worst, he is a Hegelian.

synapses firing, fingers typing on keys

You are literally a mutt

Haters gunna hate, I've had a logically coherent argument from the moment I asked you about the components of your philosophy. Calling it "wank" doesnt mean it isnt true. You didnt even get to step one about refuting me, which is to talk about how physical laws of the universe describe the relationships between objects to a similar extent and I'm mystifying things, or the advanced argument, that the universe and all objects in it are sentient, and the relationships that are described are so intrinsic to all experience you can say they are a physical property of existence itself. But instead of trying, instead of reading and studying, instead of trying to improve, you're acting like an idiot, in a thread complain about how idiots have perverted academics. This is some post-modern performance art.

So you don’t disagree that you’re a jeet then? Sure, I may be a mutt, but at least I’m a mutt of Germanic and Celtic stock. I don’t care what caste you’re from, you’re still a Dalit to me.

I see what you are saying, I dont myself think its just material processes but that material processes are only able to exist because of quantum framework that allows material stimuli in the first place. I just thought I seen what he was trying to say. He is a bit of a dick and not open to debate anything nor even say he's not sure.

University attendence is free

anon you know this isn't true. it's cheap, but that's just as it should be. imagine being in America where you have to go into high debt just to study unless your family is rich

you have no maximum semester count

true. but the only people who take years longer are a) law students or b) leftist AStA members

Hey dont talk shit about my boy hegel. The History of Philosophy is a fine book. But yes everything else you're saying is true.

I’d let her fart on my nuts

synapses firing, fingers typing on keys

Still waiting

thinks succeeding in science is about the practice of science

NGMI
t.Harvard PhD

I wanna ___k her swimsuit first and then her after

That was my take too until I decided to not just get a degree in Philosophy but also in maths as well at 32 years old. Trust me, philosophy is one of those subjects that needs to be taught in an academic setting. The problem is that there’s no good philosophy programs that are worth a damned in the year of our lord 2025.
I gained a lot of skills reading books I would’ve never found interesting and writing essays on ideas I didn’t agree with, then explaining why does ideas where flawed and why my ideas were correct. You don’t get that type of critical thinking and dialectic training simply by reading shit on your own and not discussing it with others.

Intellectectualism is dead

Its just kids wanting an easy class they can blow through. I'd say its because college cost too much. They're selecting class based on requirements and how much time they'll need to invest in that class. They do this because the high cost has to be justified with employment. Also a lot of people are worried about getting on their profs bad side and having him hold it against them. Intellectualism needs low risk in order to flourish.

I mean, he just keeps replying to my challenges by restating his position so if he’s not a jeet or a retard he is a pseud.

What he’s saying fundamentally doesn’t make sense though. It can’t possibly be true. That’s the issue. What exactly you mean by quantum framework, I don’t know, but strictly materialistic conceptions of the nature of reality render knowledge as such completely impossible no matter what.

When you "democratize" anything, you end up with average people doing uninteresting things.

It’s a decent book and so is Aristotles treatises on logic. Doesn’t mean that both Hegel and Aristotle weren’t midwits and only understood superficial points of deeper concepts. Hegel with the concept of culture and peoples and Aristotle with the theory of forms.

You realize I'm implying I have 3 additional layers of judo I havent been required to use, right? You have been refuted sufficiently and initially. I slept you with the first straight I warned you was coming because I didnt want to waste my time if you couldnt avoid it.

I am literally just mocking you. Do you think anyone will be convinced by what you said, or how you said it?

synapses still firing, fingers still typing away

Still waiting

Post hand you filthy Dalit

I think one of the major elephants in the room for education is ChatGPT. Students don’t even feel like they have to learn anything- and you know what? They really don’t have to because everyone is so overwhelmed and over saturated with fraudulent education that no one can tell the difference anymore. What’s the merit of intellectualism if no one cares about what it does, because effectively the machine is turning itself? We could probably exist in this stasis of fake information feeding back into fake automation for some time- until we suddenly can’t. The USSR was able to exist for roughly 100 years and they just made everything up all of the time.

That's a reasonable critique. I sort of take the best parts of particular philosophies and use them to my own diabolical ends. Few men are right about everything, but if someone's right, and the logic is consistent, I'm all for adopting it. Honestly? Lao Tzu and Machiavelli are both right about almost everything when read through a correct framework.

Waiting for what? Shouldnt you be studying the next layers in your argument that I was nice enough to provide you? I didnt even get to the part where I tell you that you believe in absolute truth, and therefore god.

wanking intensifies

It seems you've reached a real hurdle here, being your inability to venture outside of material constraints while trying to prove there is a world beyond them. So do you have an argument that doesn't depend on the bounds of the material world to even suggest itself? No? It's all just synapses and typing? Bit strange no?

Genuine education died before the boomers came of age. So at this point you’re right, it almost doesn’t matter. What we call education is in reality just a combination of civic and professional indoctrination, technical training in the case of the latter basically. There’s really no good reason why employers and professional guilds or trade schools can’t provide the latter. As for the former, the only reason it exists is because the progressive status quo depends on early indoctrination, and we obviously don’t need that. As long as states and schools exist, they will insist on a paideia, a civic education in common. But there’s no reason it has to occur in colleges. In my mind, the solution is to either resort the classical liberal arts basis of education and provide it alongside the civic and technical education or to just simply abandon it entirely and stop pretending they are getting that at colleges. And exactly what to do about the massive glut of professional social scientists who basically receive taxpayer funds to criticize the taxpayers and their culture, I don’t know what to do with them. The cat is out of the bag so to speak. I think in the future people will naturally be more interested in the history of subjects than the scientific application of subjects. We’ll have fewer sociologists and more social historians.

Hey, hey anon. You believe in the material world right? "Synapses and typing"? That is absolute and irrefutable, right? Well, that's an objective truth. And if you believe in objective truth, you believe in- wait what was it again?

I blame Huxley and his family for what they did in producing the modern education system. After understanding his feelings of the masses makes sense his system would devolve into this. They took the bad examples and made them reality. 1984/Brave New World/ Protocols of Zion.

intellectualism means 'theoriegewichse' in german

the time of pens is over,
the time of sword has come

I blame the Germans personally. The Prussian model was a disaster for true education and it was Germany that started the PhD and university-as-research-facility system. It was immensely beneficial for the state and so every state followed suit. Even today, universities largely depend on research grants as their bread and butter. The majority of their operating revenge comes in that way. The actual pupils are small potatoes.

no my thoughts are NOT material they are metaphysical and I can prove it

synapses fire up, starts typing again

Still waiting

I believe that the illusion that the formal education institutions are “providing” is the purpose. It’s not an aberration or some sort of nerve death that the rest of the body is slow to realize. It will not be retired because the intended effect is that it is useless so that it cannot be measured. If it had any bearing on reality then the scholars would be responsible for their competency. The more pointless the better.

I should add: I actually work part time as a lecturer now (Private Law + Legal History, particularily the History of Canon Law). The dogmatic content of the former is mostly lost on the students, the purpose of the latter entirely vain.

That has nothing to do with anything I said, man who believes in both God and the metaphysical. I suggest reading it again. I gave you a gift just now, the kind of telegraphed unavoidable gift that will unmake your existence. Do what you must, you're already dead.

Thex haven't read any nonfiction whatsoever (besides Lord of the fucking Rings, maybe).

Ahh yes, Lord of the Rings is such a fine nonfiction story. Some people tell me it's fiction, but they don't realize that the wizards, hobbits, and magical rings are all real.

mea culpa, wrong word. :')

What exactly you mean by quantum framework

I mean generally speaking all things are dynamic, Animal life evolves even if theres little environmental changes, animals are able to self edit genes without any conscience will doing it. almost like its a conservation of energy, things of that nature, I would say theres an underlying framework for those processes that allows adaptation and conservation. Anyways its not important. Could turn out that were just a mass of cells that have developed over co-operatio in a mutually beneficial relationship, and maybe thats quantum the whole processing and ability of it to come together and work.

And if this is true on a the cellular level then its liable to be true on the atomic level then it follows its liable to work on the quantum level.

Somethings are just intuition working, I dont know really, like you are saying already.

performative arrogance is the last refuge of every defeated idiot. you have depended on the material world in your efforts to prove there is something beyond it and with that alone you have lost, thus the theatrics.

institutionalized churches

jewish psyops. high-level mass psychology applied to the goyim in specialised environments

I recently went back to finish my degree and it was so bad.

It was all just busy work and formula regurgitation. Zero critical thinking or logical deduction required. I was never required to take something I learned and actually do something with it. I felt like a mechanic that just accumulated mental tools in a giant tool box for 4 years without ever being required to actually fix a car. No wonder everybody is so scared of ChatGPT stealing their jobs.

Its 100% the university's fault. They made the classes way too easy and don't even attempt to punish students for using ChatGPT to do all their work. Get them with a test? Nope. You can get a 0% on the tests and still theoretically pass thanks to a never ending stream of drone work and extra credit.

They want to scam more money from rich kids by offering easy art degrees? Fine whatever. But they are doing this in actual majors now too. Its embarrassing.

A couple of things have happened. Firstly, the average young person has grown up with smartphones that are designed to harvest their attention and turn it into money. Which means tasks like reading books or actively listening in a 45-60 minute lecture are next to impossible because it requires focus, concentration. Their brains have been wired to seek out the easy dopamine and they have it always available, just seconds away. What's worse is the level of self delusion. If you told me that you didn't have a coke problem, and you were carrying a bag of it on you or next to you all day, every day. And you took little sniffs throughout the day, and sometimes you'd just feel like a sniff and you didn't even know why you felt compelled to. I'd rightly say you're an addict. The best thing this generation can do is switch to a dumb phone, so people can reach you (in an emergency or for something important) but still have your attention and focus unbroken for at least an hour or two.

The second problem, is that this "woke" stuff has really left a mark. People got into all kinds of trouble for just having a different opinion. It's even worse than a kind of religious shaming. Because you could say something like: "I don't think Jesus was God" and get called a heretic and go through all of that. But there will still be an avenue (if you're sincere enough) to rejoin with the church if you change your ways. The modern day "sins" like racism actually don't have any kind of out. Some guy makes an off hand post about homeless people. Gets cancelled. Says sorry. Is still blackballed years later. He donates money. Volunteers at a shelter. Nothing. There is no path to forgiveness. If you know this, then you know that keeping your mouth shut is a strategy. Especially when everyone has a recording device that can be activated in seconds and stream to the internet to amplify the shaming from just 50-100 people to potentially thousands or millions.

It sure seems you believe that "objectively", right? I dont think you understood what just happened to you.

please believe I am suggesting and not seething right now

See

Is the US, the primary criticism isn't ivory towerism, it is that the universities don't serve the interest of the student. If they really do believe in class warfare, they would be laser focused on increasing the students competitiveness in the largest class conflict they will participate in, the larbor market. They don't though, they are essentially a ponzie scheme of useless in practice topics. Their structure is actually therefore the ever increasing US capitalism type, the endless grwoth model that results in pointless jobs.

Dogmatic content

Dogmatic

in law rather means "structure and order", the law being free of contradiction, applying the law according to foundational principles.

"Dogmatic content" sounds more like "Telos".

and the best part about it

is actually us importing these faggots and letting them be teachers or white collar workers here while most of them are utterly incompetent, let alone arrogant as FUCK (we do it like that in GERMANY, you little swiss don't know shit)

Am deutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen

the only thing they haven't forgotten since 1945

you stupid autistic faggot, nobody cares about the semantics here. reply to what people are actually trying to convey or just fuck off and kill yourself

BS EE and MS, every job I've had, if you gave me myself out of HS, I could have young me doing my job 6mo tops.
Every job I've ever had.

Heidelberg lol

nobody cares about the semantics here

You care about semantics when you can nitpick an irrelevant detail to pretend you didn't lose, you disregard semantics when you've said something technically false but central to your argument. This website is full of weasels and rats corrupted by peer dynamics and memes

This is AI ragebait though

You're the one going all "synapses and typing". I just think it's funny that you believe in objective truth, despite saying you dont. This also means you believe in the metaphysical, as absolute truth is ideological, not physical; again, despite saying you dont. But I dont think you have the "material" capacity in your "synapses" to understand if you catch my drift.

smartphones that are designed to harvest their attention and turn it into money

I just think it's funny that you believe in objective truth,

No, that's your strawman because you couldn't validate your argument and needed to find some way to pretend you didn't totally lose. A sudden reliance on overcompensating with reaction images also betrays that you know you've lost, by the way.

So, do you have any proof of the metaphysical world that doesn't fit within the confines of the material yet or are you just trying to get the last word?

What I just did is what you do in the university, you fuckin mong. And how the fuck are you supposed to reply when there is confusion about what he means? And the students are right in not caring about that stuff. It's mostly not necessary. You have to learn a lot as a law student. You learn the basic structure and principles, you learn where the fuck which law is (CODIFIED TEXT), you learn the most important legal disputes around the most common laws, you learn how to formulate your text, order, structure and how to argue.

What he's crying about is the least important. If you know that stuff (if it's at all part of an exam to some degree) it could elevate you to the highest degree. If you don't know the other stuff, you might not even pass.

best uni in Germania btw
kino

*grade, not degree

Yes, but.
We are free thanks to our imperfection, we misfire our predetermination multiple time in a single day.
Its a small spectrum of free choices, but still freedom.

heidelberg is fairly decent yes. the student corps is unfortunately overrun by retards.

Checked. Yeah I get it. It always comes back to jews. Fuckin Frankfort school niggers etc kikes are plague.

It's cute that you think that, anon who entirely ignored what I said, and has subsequently made up criteria to judge him as a winner. This isnt an arguement; I'm directly mocking you.

And yes, actually. Your belief in that statement. Either you believe it as objectively true, and therefore conceed to metaphysics existing by virtue of the metaphysical concept of objective truth existing, or you dont believe it's objectively true, which means there are metaphysical things at a fundamental level. Scale it however you like, you entered a gay trap of your own making that is impossible to solve given your philosophical framework.

Modern day sophist. God this is why philosophy has mostly died.

Humans have reached the end of the line regarding thought, everything now is regurgitated. Hegel was right in this sense.

Yes. The fuzziness of cognition does not make the origin of it immaterial and you're smarter than 99% of this board for understanding that.

you believe what I said and not what you actually said

So you are just trying to get the last word then. Still no proof of the metaphysical? Nothing at all? Almost as though it doesn't exist huh?

I agree. Then they get used as a redpilling campaign that never works. Then it’s always the liberals fault while right-wingers just sit back and rack in a ton of money. Repeat the cycles.

Most of those people who speaks out end up being forced through the greatly inefficient redpilling campaigns, waging a war against a brick wall.

tl;dr

That's it? An insult that entirely ignores the position and uses a word wrong? Fitting. Being a sophist would be greentexting replies that make you look like an idiot, ignoring your argument and looking smug, or parroting one liners that ignore all nuance. This is not sophistry; it's logic. I've been entirely consistent from the moment I said anything. I could have pulled this trap the second you told me your retarded beliefs. I thoroughly explained the what, and the why, despite you acting like the flippant charlatan I told you that you would from the hop, for no other reason than to help you learn and improve. Why? Because I still believe you can learn more and get better, in a thread about how most academics are retarded, just like you.

We calls them part of the redpilling team. Basically made to hates leftists while worshipping right-wingers that do nothing to improves anything.

You didnt discuss any of the proof. At all. You didnt refute it or considet it. At all.

metaphysics are REAL bro I can prove it

"Ok, prove it"

well umm akchually proof is kind of a metaphysical concept itself so I can't really prove it which means it's actually proven or something, I am very smart

Always good for a hoot. There's a reason people have been arguing over metaphysics for millennia and making no progress or change while materialism has only grown in fidelity and applicability. That's because it's all wank.

That's not what I said at all, and goddamn you're asspained about it. Cant even discuss it at all. This anon summarized it well:

I know nothing. That's it. I see no escape from the jew who has been allowed to be free to corrupt. I'm just here to laugh as we all die. Good luck being an inspiration to those who still try. Honestly hope you break thru to them. For its its already too late. Call no man happy until he is dead. I know I quoted it wrong thanks for correcting me.

metaphysics are REAL bro I can prove it

"Ok, prove it"

well umm akchually proof is kind of a metaphysical concept itself so I can't really prove it which means it's actually proven or something, I am very smart

You lost bro. Should've posted more smug reaction pics might've made a difference

There's a simple escape: identify him, call him by name, and refute him directly.

Pour me a cup of a relationship, please.

To quote soad. Science has failed our world. Your jewish science gets up to quantum physics then it unravels into bullshit a d speculation. All based on flawed organs of perception. Metaphysics are all that left. You cannot judge a system objectively from within and therefore. Never know it's inner workings when only a fraction of the signals interpreted can be used. Infrared UV etc would be said of spiritus or entities. And until proven wrong nothing matters one way or the other.

The problem is that people are being pigeonholed into a degree because not having a degree is even worse, or because in school the teachers indoctrinated them into not even considering other options. Most people don't actually like their job a lot, it's simply the way they make money to afford doing stuff they like. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that (the people who do this, not the system), even if you do a job you like more but you can barely afford to live it will likewise drain you.
t. am in engineering and i suck, but i have no idea what to choose that isn't economically worthless

nassimtaleb.org/2016/09/intellectual-yet-idiot/

We live in a strange time in history where Western academia has basically been taken over by anti-intellectual ideologies coming from various sources whose goals vary from controlling the masses by dumbing everyone down, corporate lobbying and ideological fanaticism.

The institutions are no longer about learning. They have been turned into a mass indoctrination industrial complex similar to the military industrial complex, whose role it is to create problems that they can later offer the solutions for in order to grow their profits.

They have no morals or scruples.

Are the gnostic metaphysical demons compelling you to reply right now or is it the chemical assembly of hormones known as "anger"?

angels and souls and demons and spirits are real

Metaphysics, everyone.

Every person I admire who has done that has been killed. Stephen Milford Goodson, Tracy Twyman, David McGowan the lost goes on. Calling them out just gets your Epstein'd. My only defense is to laugh and cry until they finally come for me. Too many good books with great information. And here we get a never ending stream of kikes derailing any meaningful conversations. Just let me die in shit. Fuck this gay earth.

And anything we does is predicted and then used against us.

Dude I get it. You rape kids and worship moloch. No need to convince me man. Just leave me alone I'm just trying to gamble. Fucking disgusting parasites these kikes are

Hey, I'd settle for 20hertz of logic. What about 15 psi of knowledge? I'd even take an ohm of consus. Any measurement is fine.

I literally said dualism is gnostic bullshit, twice. You should understand words you dont know before you use them.

I literally said dualism is gnostic bullshit, twice

And yet you believe there are components of the mind divorced from the material. You and this schizo believe the same things, he's just not wanking as hard as you are.

ohm of consus, sides man. Reason why I still come to this jewish shit hole.

It's satire, you dips. The author being listed as Avie N. Gaze (think about it) should have tipped you off.

Regardless of what I believe, you do not have the faculties to disprove me or even discuss it. You dont actually know anything about what I believe other than in some vague form of metaphysics. Why? Because the conversation hasnt progressed far enough for you to be owed any explaination.

you do not have the faculties to disprove me

The burden of proof that the metaphysical exists is on you. I thought you were a heckin rationalpilled smartypants logicalboi?

You leafs and mutts arguing over metaphysics are all dumb as fuck.
There is no way to really prove ANYTHING due to the way we seem to percieve the world. Problem of induction, nigga. If you didnt figure this out by the time you were 10 years old, you're probably retarded.
Everything you believe to be true is nothing more than an ASSUMPTION. Everything from perception to causality to the fucking sun rising tomorrow, is a SPOOK. Reality is opaque and contradictory, suck it up, buttercup. Nobody is coming to save you.
But thats fine, just make an assumptions and then keep testing it until proven false.
If I cave your head in with a hammer, will you die?
Kant was a hack who couldn't cope with Hume being right about literally everything, btw.

If I cave your head in with a hammer, will you die?

Based. I've been using the hammer argument for years